# Dr Martin Kulldorff: What I told RFK Jr about vaccines

An episode of [UnHerd with Freddie Sayers](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1540134798), 15 Sep 2025, 29 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/5fad6d24bc034454b53fe011/e/68c81b800d1f13367d26d522/media.mp3

Freddie Sayers speaks with Dr. Martin Kulldorff — co-author of the Great Barrington Declaration and newly appointed chair of the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) — to discuss his and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s views on vaccines, the recent turmoil at the CDC that has seen senior officials resign or be removed, and his reflections on the global pandemic response, from Sweden’s no-lockdown strategy to the United States’ vaccine mandates. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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