# John Burn-Murdoch: What's causing the fertility crisis?

An episode of [UnHerd with Freddie Sayers](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1540134798), 21 May 2026, 30 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/5fad6d24bc034454b53fe011/e/6a0f0ed7294da705c34be11e/media.mp3

UnHerd's Freddie Sayers talks to John Burn-Murdoch, the chief data reporter for the Financial Times, as well as Hernan Moscoso-Boedo and Nathan Hudson from the University of Cincinnati, to investigate a controversial new study suggesting that the global proliferation of smartphones and social media since 2007 has drastically altered young people's behaviour, halved face-to-face socialisation, and accelerated a worldwide collapse in fertility rates that cannot simply be explained by the global financial crisis. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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