# Teach the primitives or watch your competitor define them | Baseten’s Philip Kiely

An episode of [Dev Interrupted](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1537003676), 5 May 2026, 36 min.

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If you aren't the one educating your users on the fundamentals of AI, your competitors will happily do it for you. This week on Dev Interrupted, Andrew sits down with Philip Kiely, Head of AI Education at Baseten and author of Inference Engineering, to discuss why the secret to winning the AI market is owning the educational narrative through active market development. They explore the rise of the "Double-T" shaped engineer, the hidden complexities of scaling the inference stack, and why the most successful AI companies treat developer education as a mission-critical go-to-market motion. Read the guide: The APEX Framework Follow the show: • Subscribe to our Substack • Follow us on LinkedIn • Subscribe to our YouTube Channel • Leave us a Review Follow the hosts: • Follow Andrew • Follow Ben • Follow Dan Follow today's stories: • Baseten: Explore the inference platform where Philip serves as Head of AI Education. Inference Engineering: Download the free PDF or order a paper copy of Philip's comprehensive guide to the AI infrastructure stack. LinkedIn: Philip Kiely X/Twitter: @philipkiely Website: philipkiely.com OFFERS • Start Free Trial: Get started with LinearB's AI productivity platform for free. • Book a Demo: Learn how you can ship faster, improve DevEx, and lead with confidence in the AI era. LEARN ABOUT LINEARB • AI Code Reviews: Automate reviews to catch bugs, security risks, and performance issues before they hit production. • AI & Productivity Insights: Go beyond DORA with AI-powered recommendations and dashboards to measure and improve performance. • AI-Powered Workflow Automations: Use AI-generated PR descriptions, smart routing, and other automations to reduce developer toil. • MCP Server: Interact with your engineering data using natural language to build custom reports and get answers on the fly.

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