# IMO Live at SXSW: Combatting Hopelessness with Dr. Laurie Santos

An episode of [IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1532956108), 21 Mar 2025, 1 h 05 min.

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Michelle and Craig host their first live podcast recording together at SXSW! They are joined by Dr. Laurie Santos, psychology professor and host of The Happiness Lab, to answer a listener question about finding hope in hard times. The group discusses how phones have contributed to the “always on” nature of stress, strategies to harness happiness is the everyday, and how to develop resilience for future challenges. Have a question you want answered? Write to us at imopod.com. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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