# Biggest Questions From the Biggest Scam in Hobby History

An episode of [Sports Cards Nonsense](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1531538073), 21 Jul 2025, 1 h 08 min.

Audio: https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/GLT1077753519.mp3?updated=1753938670

Mike and Jesse are joined by Cliff Panezich and Steve Grad to discuss a story that has rocked the hobby, a multimillion-dollar forgery scandal that came out last week. Cliff and Steve offer unique perspectives on both sides of the story to help illuminate where the hobby currently is and how a scam of this scale could possibly be achieved. Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guests: Cliff Panezich and Steve Grad Producer: Steve Ahlman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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