# History of the ATF 4: Learning all the Wrong Lessons

An episode of [T.REX TALK](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1529056472), 28 Jan 2025, 1 h 01 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/f588fa54/podcast/play/97699713/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-0-28%2F393882313-44100-2-18da34b1e4d11.mp3

Our long-running series of long explorations into past ATF activities finally makes it to current day! And what may surprise you are the ways that bad laws, bad assumptions, and deep ignorance continue to cause tension and resentment... in and out of the Bureau. We also finally address the question of what happens to good ATF agents trying to do their duty. https://davekopel.org/Waco/LawRev/warrant.htm https://www.amazon.com/No-More-Wacos-Enforcement-wellesley-ebook/dp/B002KQ60WY https://www.amazon.com/Firearm-Anatomy-Book-STEN-Submachine/dp/1495975800 https://www.sb-tactical.com/about-us/company/ https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2017/09/08/i-smell-cash-how-the-atf-spent-millions-of-dollars-unchecked/ https://nypost.com/2013/09/25/smoking-gun-atf-agents-busted-in-cigarette-sting/ https://www.amazon.com/Government-Here-Kill-You-Negligence/dp/1510722262 https://web.archive.org/web/20220524032117/https://www.cleanupatf.org/ https://katv.com/news/local/sen-tom-cotton-says-atf-agents-werent-wearing-body-cameras-during-raid-at-malinowski-home https://www.thetrace.org/2024/10/atf-gun-dealer-licenses-revoked-biden/

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