# Love is Blind USA - S11 Eps. 1-5: Part 1 w/Brian

An episode of [Tayne Talks: A Reality TV Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1522401890), 19 Oct 2026, 1 h 18 min.

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We are back in the USA and this time we are in Boston. In this first part, Brian and I break down all the couples, the non stop dad jokes and the lack of chemistry between the couples. Get bonus episodes on Patreon on documentaries, MAFS content and reality shows like Sister Wives and 90 Day Fiance. Different levels are available - a tier to listen to episodes ad-free ($3), a tier for bonus episodes ($5) and another to listen ad-free, bonus episodes and get regular episodes early ($10) Join the conversation in the Patreon Community Chat and on Instagram, Twitter, Bluesky and Threads - @taynetalks Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

## Transcript

[0:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Everybody, welcome to another episode of Tain Talks.
[0:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I am Bill Hose Tain.
[0:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Here with a new episode for you today, and it is love is blind Boston I don't know what number they are on now.
[0:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Is it 11?
[0:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because I was a 10 year anniversary.
[0:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You said 12.
[0:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is it.
[0:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's no way to know.
[0:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I should know, but it is love season here and We're here again, you know, it's 11, but um
[0:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[0:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't, Brandon, I was just talking about this, you know, coming back and it's like, is it the people?
[0:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Is it the show?
[0:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I, I feel like you came back with not as much fanfare, but then that feels like a lie because it's just as much online talk on there.
[0:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[0:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I, you know, I'm not one of those people I'm not watching.
[1:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I am going to watch it, but it's just, is it the pods, like, you know what, the one thing I think I will stand 10 to his own is five episodes is too much.
[1:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What are we rushing for?
[1:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, five is too many.
[1:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If I'm, if I'm editing the show with all of my vast years of television production experience behind me, what I would do is like three episodes of the pods.
[1:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's your first drop.
[1:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then you start off the next time with them getting to the resort.
[1:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't need five episodes of pods, especially considering like some of these didn't really go anywhere.
[1:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We saw a lot of footage of people that
[1:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: we're in consequential to like the season itself.
[1:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I don't know why they chose some of the things that they chose.
[1:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, and then the editing is so odd because you see someone who's like, I'm engaged and then they're gone.
[1:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then the next thing is like, they're there giving advice.
[1:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then you ask someone who's left.
[1:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then you're listing them.
[1:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, we just saw them do a reveal.
[2:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like what?
[2:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's weird.
[2:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know if they I would assume Netflix is so big.
[2:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They have like market research saying people love to watch the pods more than anything and I'm just like.
[2:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Nah, man, I need I need what I need from the pods.
[2:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't need half of the show to be the pods.
[2:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I know this episode was so much pod because we didn't even get to the part where at the getaway, all the couples meet each other.
[2:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We usually get that in the first five.
[2:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This was a lot of pod.
[2:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, a lot of pod.
[2:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: On here.
[2:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Not the best pod.
[2:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It wasn't like, oh, he's pod's amazing.
[2:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was just like a lot of pod.
[2:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Rividing conversation with hair, we don't stop dad jokes like.
[2:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh my god, the dad jokes.
[2:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: wouldn't stop.
[2:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then they started infecting the women too.
[2:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was like.
[2:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[2:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But yeah.
[2:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay.
[2:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Before we get into the episode, guys, just remember reminder, patreon.com slash taint talks.
[3:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you'd like to support the pod, you can over there.
[3:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You can get at three episodes for just three dollars.
[3:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You can get video episodes.
[3:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You can get bonus episodes, bonus episodes every week.
[3:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Had the swan documentary.
[3:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Had 90 day hunt full of over there, which I think is my current favorite.
[3:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's so nice.
[3:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's so nice.
[3:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's so messy.
[3:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's so messy.
[3:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's so awful.
[3:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: A whole bunch of unhealed people trying to hate.
[3:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it's lovely.
[3:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We have a lot of blast from the past that I'm like, where do you mean get this person from?
[3:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's working.
[3:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes.
[3:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Talking about.
[3:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, I talk about that so you can check that out and this week I'm going to have 90 day the other way because I think we have about three episodes going so there's some interesting couples over there already as always so these people gonna last still is last you know that's the wonder like you think they're not gonna last but somehow they do so check that out yeah over on patreon.com
[4:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And as always, if there's anything that you want me to cover or you're like here in my thoughts on feel free let me know and we're also chatting love is blind over there because we can't believe the things you're watching you know so so much you want on okay so these people oh and also we know we owe you love is blind Netherlands we are going to wrap that up like the reunion just happened so we're going to wrap that up along with the weddings even though there's
[4:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: one and a half couples.
[4:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know what Miguel is doing with the guys.
[4:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're just going through the motions here, but yeah.
[4:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So that's going to come out also later in the week.
[4:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Just have to get to USA because there's going to be more episodes by the next week already.
[4:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you have that too.
[4:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, so they do this thing that they do when they have a 5000 hour preview that may or may not give away what may happen because, you know,
[4:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Even if you show me the hands, there's only one black couple.
[4:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I know that person needed to.
[5:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[5:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But we can give away all.
[5:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, and maybe they're hoping we don't remember.
[5:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Some of us have, you know, memories where we remember.
[5:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: little tiny things like this.
[5:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So what do I do?
[5:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I turn away my head and I don't watch this.
[5:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I don't know, you know, what happens.
[5:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So because that's very least, you can tell who makes it to get away.
[5:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't want to know.
[5:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, I'd be surprised.
[5:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Remember, guys, I'm the person who goes into books blind.
[5:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have no idea what my books are about.
[5:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I don't want to see this.
[5:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Wow.
[5:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You can't believe.
[5:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I honestly, it's not worth it because I didn't like why am I trying to
[5:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, we have filled with, I don't know what I was expecting.
[5:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The only thing I remember saying was that I just didn't expect it to be riveting TV.
[5:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was expecting blondess.
[5:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know if it's blog because there is stuff to talk about, but I know what we have is a bunch of average men who think they're really the shit.
[6:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Boof averages, some of these dudes, yeah, I think my, I was thinking about it when we were kind of about to record it has like basically all the ingredients that I like, but they didn't cook them right or something.
[6:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like, it's like you, you, you did all this stuff make a cake, but then you just like world it in a pot instead of putting it into the oven to bake and I'm like, yeah, this is not the cake soup is not what I want.
[6:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's kind of what this was like.
[6:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But here's the thing, Brian.
[6:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is how we felt about Neville and then which what do we do before Neville and that was, I don't even know anymore.
[6:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It wasn't okay.
[6:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, it was UK.
[6:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, it was UK.
[6:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Freshers of all, it was UK.
[6:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it's like all the things are there.
[6:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But it's still not hitting.
[6:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it's like, no one wants to say have we outgrown it?
[6:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, I can't I can't imagine because we're still riveted to 90 day fiancee.
[6:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's been on for 90 years at this point.
[6:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So like I'm blaming the people, I'm watching you.
[7:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm enjoying it.
[7:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes.
[7:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes.
[7:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I don't know, because he has all the things.
[7:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Maybe they don't know why I can't explain these days and the wrong seasoning.
[7:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, you don't need to put a bat on everything, you know?
[7:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It goes on certain stuff.
[7:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Sometimes just some sea salt and pepper, maybe I don't know.
[7:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know what we're seeing at this point.
[7:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The point is, it has all of the things, but you're just watching it and you're like,
[7:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What is happening right now?
[7:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So are you like everybody else who is disappointed that we didn't get a lot of the Boston accent that they were expecting?
[7:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, we got like one, like one and a half, um, like I I wanted everyone to sound like the dude from the you're cousin from Boston from the Sam Adams commercials.
[7:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's I just wanted that accent for everybody.
[7:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Men, women, Nick was shaking put one of those on and we just didn't get that much of it.
[7:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We got one guy and again, in consequence of the show.
[7:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, for those of you who watched the challenge, we'd be expecting the CT of it all, but there you go.
[8:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It wasn't there.
[8:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I feel almost grateful so that way.
[8:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, I watch recaptions, but I could go along with it.
[8:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So then is it that there are transplants?
[8:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But a lot of them didn't talk about being transplants, though.
[8:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know, I wonder if a lot of it is just that we're kind of losing regional accents in general.
[8:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because like, I don't have a Chicago accent.
[8:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I have a civil and S, which is the only Chicago accent thing that I have.
[8:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If a word ends in an S, I don't make a Z sound that make an S sound on the end of it, that's a Chicago thing.
[8:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But my A is not flat.
[8:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't have all the stuff.
[8:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I think it's just like regional accents are kind of going away.
[8:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're consuming so much more like national TV and movies and stuff that we don't really have.
[8:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Those insular accents anymore, which kind of makes me sad.
[8:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: the south would like to.
[8:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well the south is huge though.
[8:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I know that there's like, there was the episode of the office where Andy was like, well Savannah accent is this and like a Charlotte accent is that I think we just have like a general southern accent.
[9:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like give me give me a little tiny regional accent is what I need.
[9:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, but yeah, that's what we got and then what we're going to do for this episode as usual is just talk about some highlights from the pods a little triangle here and there and then we'll do the reveals and then there wasn't much in the get away we just so a little bit they didn't even get to meet each other yet so we're just going to go through that and
[9:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: was him trying to see who wins between Jesus coming back, and Tom Brady coming back from 283 being down 283, and I'm like, what, what, what they, they just, this is them saying, hey, this is what we're going to give you guys, and then we didn't get anything like this ever again.
[10:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mori is the guy with the Boston accent.
[10:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Of course, you're talking about Tom Brady, like of course, this is what we're doing.
[10:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then it just kind of, they're like, we have to give you some of this, right?
[10:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think somebody brings up very bird at one point, but that's what it is.
[10:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes.
[10:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're like, what?
[10:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like who's having any, you know, the thing is, guys, the reason why this is kind of late is, you know, work.
[10:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I've been traveling for work and in between my work traveling and everything, I'm trying to watch this.
[10:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it's just like, because it's such a slow, I'm just like, can we get to it?
[10:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But then I hear more is what I said, I'm up.
[10:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, that's what I wanted.
[10:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is a guy and you know spoiler alert.
[10:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He doesn't make it, but I'm just we've been a lot of time So much time with him And somebody else who also doesn't make it like it a lot of time on a couple that goes fucking nowhere
[10:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, when they make like a focal point and they're like, oh, I can't wait to see where this is going to end then like even when he said like, okay, guys, I'm going home.
[11:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It didn't even click.
[11:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was like, no, he, oh, then I'm like, okay, maybe outside then they bring him back in.
[11:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, that that didn't.
[11:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That was it.
[11:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Basically, he was like,
[11:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: the social prefect of the of the quarters like he was the one like was the main guy and then he had his best year any by day minus zero and then he was just everywhere prepping pepping the guys up and then being the guy he was like the jack from UK for here except he didn't get his girl like yes he could have he just said no but yeah
[11:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, so we also meet Rob Rob is the oldest guy in the group who is 38.
[11:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, have we had older, we've had older right.
[11:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, no.
[11:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think we had somebody that's in their 40s at some point.
[11:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: 40s before.
[11:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, we had to have.
[11:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Vanessa Nick come in and I got to tell you guys I don't know Vanessa got a new stylist, but she looks great The two times that we saw her in and I liked her fits the red fit and the other with the black leather pants and she was like, I'm wearing my heels because she looked taller than Nick This time, but I mean And it's just me who did they spend more time chatting with them in the quarters usually it's like, hi
[12:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It felt longer than usual.
[12:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, you know, Nick never feels to mention that he's been married before, like, of course.
[12:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Every season.
[12:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Do what?
[12:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[12:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's been married before, and that's because we have someone who's been married before and that was Erica, um, and Erica mentions that in the quarters, um, also in the quarters, John reveals that he's been diagnosed with MS, and, you know, comes back to what we said before about disclosing a medical condition, and I think we settled on
[12:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You should.
[12:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mm-hmm.
[12:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Right.
[12:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[12:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You should.
[12:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, I guess it depends on what it is.
[12:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like I didn't need to hear him talk about his, well, we'll talk about his eye situation.
[13:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But like if it's something that is likely to impact your marriage at some point in time, you probably don't know about that.
[13:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So they don't get blindsided by it.
[13:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I guess later on.
[13:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, yeah, um, Malayne also reveals that she had breast cancer at 24 and on a side note, honestly, we need to lower the age on testing for all these things.
[13:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There isn't an up-up tick.
[13:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: of colon cancer, waiting to 45 full colonoscopy is moot at this point, like we can't keep falling old rules when it doesn't apply just because people are dying younger and younger of colon cancer, people are getting breast cancer low and lower and you're waiting for a mammogram at 40, oh wait, I'm going to wait like and people have to fight to get this mammograms and they don't
[13:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm sorry to get on those soapbox, but it's just really pissing me off that we're just dying from things like that could be prevented.
[13:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like if we are able to do it, why are we not doing it?
[14:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know?
[14:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, well, because there's a profit motive involved.
[14:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, this is vote.
[14:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: All right.
[14:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I'm going to say about this.
[14:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Vote, guys.
[14:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Make sure you register to vote and you can vote.
[14:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Please do.
[14:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But yeah, she's okay.
[14:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're glad that she's okay.
[14:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But then she reveals that.
[14:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So that's all the kind of talk that was happening when they were chatting in the quarters, I guess.
[14:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Nick and Vanessa were like, we need more today.
[14:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So they ate them time.
[14:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're bored.
[14:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, like I said, more it was giving Jack.
[14:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It felt like he was here to have a good time.
[14:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But he thinks he's handsome.
[14:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: A lot of these men think they're handsome also.
[14:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What do they?
[14:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Wow.
[14:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I did you notice, why were a lot of people read?
[14:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what time of year this is.
[14:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I know that obviously boss is pretty high Irish content and a lot of times Irish can get really read if a one single read of the sun touches it.
[15:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So maybe it was just like the wrong time of year for you to have to walk outside to get into the building or something, but there was a lot of read.
[15:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because I'm like, okay, well, they go from the hotel to that.
[15:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Cause I'm like, everybody is like, inflamed.
[15:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Right.
[15:16] \[UNKNOWN\]: Right.
[15:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Maybe they'll get chemical pills to be on TV and didn't give enough time.
[15:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then they didn't give enough time to help.
[15:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, so let's go with...
[15:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Can you tell the different people?
[15:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Can you tell Blake from Rob?
[15:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because, Blake, you're not going to waste.
[15:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was fighting.
[15:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Fighting to get Blake and Rob together.
[15:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm glad they keep putting up their names, but I need them to keep putting up their names, like all the time until, I mean, I guess five episodes is a lot, but I still didn't make it.
[15:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was still a struggle.
[15:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, if not for Blake talking about his job constantly I would have had a really hard time and if it was like a regular job, I'd like, oh, which one is that I'm like, oh, he's the one who's a boat captain and so I've ever talked about
[15:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, Blake is all below Deckish and he's just telling us all of the time that he sales and then when he's not sailing, he gets a chef and he just goes around.
[16:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And yet he says that he wants to get married and settle down.
[16:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So we have Blake and he's in between Erica and Bonita.
[16:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I will introduce him to you guys later.
[16:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And Erica is the one who's had a kid.
[16:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I don't understand why she feels bad that she's been married before.
[16:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She mentioned it in the quarter.
[16:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She mentioned it in the pot.
[16:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She kept saying it and when she did she was like, oh, I'm glad you're finding with it.
[16:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like I was worried.
[16:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, girl, why I think she's 33 and I'm like, why are you worried that
[16:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You've been married before.
[16:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It didn't work out and you got out of it.
[16:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like that's That shouldn't be a thing and it becomes the same thing like, you know, even when They have a kid and it's a big deal.
[16:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Some guy at some point mentioned so casually.
[16:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, I have a kid and then that's it.
[16:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's so Interesting to see the different like the women are like, I'm not gonna say I don't want to say it I don't want the men are like, oh, I have a kid is fine.
[17:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then move on that's it
[17:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, there's so much of this I always chalk up to like me not understanding modern-day dating culture because I haven't been on a first date and oh my god 12 years at this point like I'm wondering if she has experienced a ton of guys where the second they find out about that they just ghost her and now it's kind of like given her a complex about it from you know these shitty dudes on the app so whatever I don't know but she was very worked up in like nervous to reveal his information.
[17:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I think that's part of it.
[17:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I also think it's like, what is that gender thing?
[17:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like the thing we women do is like we just make everything a big deal and then overthink stuff and then men just have to audacity where they should overthink, but it's just like, eh, and then just think that their reality, even though it should be like a serious thing.
[17:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I think both things play a part into it and just carrying it as a burden when you should not absolutely not.
[17:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It should not be a thing of shame.
[17:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, Blake and Eric are as a ones who give us the tradition of the sex talk in the pot, the pot sex talk because they become a thing in all of the franchises and um, they're the ones who did it who the thought.
[18:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I don't know.
[18:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I don't know.
[18:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right.
[18:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, it doesn't even warning you, I guess.
[18:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, yeah, but they don't know each other.
[18:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And they haven't seen each other.
[18:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right.
[18:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's great.
[18:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What I don't understand about Blake is like, like I said, though, like we were saying earlier, is like Blake wants to sail the world.
[18:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Blake wants to go around.
[18:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Blake wants to do all of the things.
[18:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But he also wants to sail down and have kids.
[18:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he just cracks all these jokes and it's just like, there's only so much jokes you can take before you're like, we need to be serious.
[18:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, this is a thing and I do think that Erica asked the right questions, where she's like, how are you for how are you funding?
[19:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, which is weird because he he okay.
[19:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He said two things that are that are in Congress.
[19:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He said I'm commonly broke which like
[19:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't think he's really like, I'm on the verge of destitution, but I think he's like, I won't have, you know, a ton of money.
[19:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But then he's like, I can do whatever, like a three month charter for $200,000.
[19:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm just like, so why don't you just keep doing that?
[19:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, if it's that easy to do, because you make something, well, I can just get one of those.
[19:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm just like, okay, so like, do it.
[19:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Do that, do that, and then you can take the rest of the year off, and you wouldn't be comically broken anymore.
[19:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know if he's just like bad with money, like if he does make a ton of money, and just like blow it all over the course of the nine months, he's not working.
[19:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know.
[19:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's lying.
[19:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's not a cast him for this show.
[19:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Do not cast a man who lives in nomadic lifestyle.
[19:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We saw this in Austin with that dude that lied about his whole background, minutes on her couch and whatever.
[19:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like don't, don't cast somebody that has no permanent address.
[20:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's not a good idea.
[20:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, when we watched the international one,
[20:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: you can't participate because like okay so and this is my problem with Blake is like everything he says sounds like a joke because if you truly serious you would have a plan right and you'd be like hey when I do just a three months I earn this so I can take time off and I can do this so my plan is like when we have kids because who wants to be married and have a kid and be a single parent?
[20:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Not me.
[20:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I'll have me and then I'll do this and I'll do that and then see if this person is on board with a plan But he wasn't like giving like a concrete plan.
[20:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He was just throwing things out there and It's like is this realistic like is this what we're gonna do?
[20:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So he sounded like a joke and he felt like he just wanted to try his hand at playing married adult Yeah, see what it feels like
[20:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've got a good friend from college who does live this lifestyle.
[21:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She and her husband owns like a big sailboat and they have not had like a home and it's gotta be over 10 years at this point.
[21:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They are just, they travel the world that all times on this ship and they have a great time and neither one of them ever wanted to have kids or anything.
[21:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So like this is before this, you wanted to live like van life in the first place.
[21:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So they made sense to do this.
[21:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: you can't spring this on somebody who came on to this show to find a partner and settle down and start a life.
[21:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then be like, curveball, you're going to be my, my, my bosen on the boat for the rest of your life.
[21:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like it's just a, I don't, if you're going to do this, make a different show.
[21:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Make a whole different show about nomadic people coming together and seeing, can we live a nomadic life?
[21:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'd watch that mess.
[21:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm sure they'd fight.
[21:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But like this is just I don't like that they put him on the show and then let people kind of have to adjust their whole future plan to see if they can fit with what he has in mind and it is always the woman who has to adjust all the life cell on there is like why even put them in that position with someone who doesn't seem stable like these people are coming for stability and yes they have a choice I'm not saying they don't have a choice because that's the other theme that we're seeing on here is like all these
[22:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: red orange flags are waving and it's like the women are going to it and you're like, but I understand like they invest all this time.
[22:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're talking to all these people.
[22:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're watching it as viewers, right?
[22:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: These people are coming with all their hopes and marriage dreams on here and it's like, well, this is the one thing I'm going to let not let me get there because you could see that
[22:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Erica's mind was, her wheels were turning.
[22:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's just like, I don't know.
[22:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[22:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, I'm my willing to, but I'm already here.
[22:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I already do deep into this leap of faith.
[22:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I might as well go all in on this.
[22:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So he also had somebody Benita and Benita is a character, guys.
[22:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Benita is, um,
[23:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, we're lucky.
[23:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's not the newer movie obsession.
[23:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, but it also gone bad.
[23:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If she really got engaged, she might have been, you know, no, no, no, no, no.
[23:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Could have put in that scene pretty quick.
[23:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I still haven't seen it.
[23:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's on Pika's.
[23:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Ooh, it's good.
[23:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It is.
[23:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay.
[23:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But it's a warm movie, isn't it?
[23:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, but I love a horror movie though.
[23:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't like this posture.
[23:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm just kidding.
[23:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[23:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, it's got, it's got one big jump scare in it.
[23:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Is it like us like, um, yeah, it's unsettling.
[23:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, it's it's unsettling.
[23:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It makes you feel uncomfortable the whole time basically.
[23:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay.
[23:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I love it.
[23:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's great.
[23:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So Benita is from Albania.
[23:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And Benita is someone you can tell has lived through life,
[24:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, I wish you say, I wish you could see me, yeah, I moved this wall apart, so you could choose me, come on then I'm hot as hell, like you don't you understand
[24:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So this is unfair all these people coming here talking about love is blind And I think that's part of the thing with the show though is like it truly used to be about maybe love is blind And it's like all these people are like love is not blind everyone is fishing to find ways to know what's going on And everyone is offering up information and I'm like why are you here?
[24:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Can we have rules set in place because this is getting ridiculous?
[24:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like at first it was like little things You know back there shake was like can I put you on my shoulders and I do know whatever it was here and there You know, but now everyone is just like breaking it down right down to the molecule of their DNA or whatever as far as I'm concerned And I'm like we need rules in place It's not love as funny if you're gonna let this people date then just do that
[25:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, at this point it's okay.
[25:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So let's see you work at a strip club.
[25:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What shift would they give you?
[25:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Are you like a Saturday night or are you like a Monday morning time?
[25:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, like a month, man.
[25:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's where we are, so I just don't, on there.
[25:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So she is connected with him because he says like he is used to dating the Balkan women.
[25:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He loved to say it was love to say Balkan.
[25:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then he used to them and she was like, oh, you're speaking my language.
[25:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And you know, they were having a connection, but I was like, what is the connection besides the fact that you dated women from Albania before?
[25:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, I just, you know,
[25:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think that's it.
[25:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think I think he kind of probably went into it saying like, well, the odds of anybody from one of the Balkan countries being here is pretty low.
[25:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then he found one is like, oh, I know how to work this one.
[25:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I know how, I know all the rumors here and how this goes.
[25:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Is he the one that said he wanted someone foreign?
[25:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think so.
[25:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Was it Rob?
[25:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What in the other?
[25:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, it probably would have been him or Cam because Cam did so much international travel, but I think it was him.
[26:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I think it was Blake that set that.
[26:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But Blake says all these things, like I said, he doesn't know when to stop because one time you were talking with Erica.
[26:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she's mentioning that, oh, you have connections.
[26:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, I don't know, you know, what's going to happen?
[26:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he's like, OK, I hope I see you tomorrow.
[26:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she's like, well, as long as I don't leave.
[26:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And listen.
[26:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I understand wanting to be chosen.
[26:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I understand that they should make up their minds, right?
[26:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But sometimes it's like, okay, I just want to make sure I'm making the right choice for me and Yada Yada.
[26:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I don't think that he helps any situations where you tell them you have to choose now.
[26:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You must use me now, or to say things like, as long as I don't leave, like, what are we doing now?
[26:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What does sounds like emotional blackmail?
[26:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it's like, if you can't even do what everybody else does, go STEM and leave.
[26:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, and if this is what you're going to do, propose to him instead.
[26:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Instead of making like, hey, listen, I'm here.
[26:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If you want to choose me, but like, you got to choose me.
[26:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Quick, just propose to him.
[26:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If you're that serious about it and see what happens.
[27:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't agree with that, Brian.
[27:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because that is, that's just another form of pressure.
[27:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because now you're putting them on the spot.
[27:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then your feelings are going to get hurt.
[27:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If they don't want to say yes.
[27:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it's just, and roll them dice.
[27:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, because I'm just like, what you
[27:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: would want is for them to be sure that they are down for you and they want to be with you, you speeding up the process, if there's another connection, you know there's going to be a part squad.
[27:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is season 11.
[27:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You don't want to be like, well, is this who you really want to let them come to that decision?
[27:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And if they don't choose you, you judge the bullet.
[27:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: One way or the other?
[27:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mm-hmm.
[27:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's why sometimes they judge the bullet.
[27:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Again, season 11.
[27:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're not new to this.
[27:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, it's true.
[27:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've seen this happen many a time.
[27:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, so yeah, so Blake decides that he's going with Erica and they're going to be a couple and we'll talk about the reveal.
[27:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'll take my first break and I'll be right back.
[27:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All right, we are back.
[27:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So we have another quadrangle need is in this one again, more is in this one and then we have John and Sarah and that's because Sarah is in the triangle we john and Marty.
[28:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Who knew in 2026, someone is just the free fan.
[28:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, I like the free.
[28:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just, I forgot the existence.
[28:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, I like the back of the day when at their peak.
[28:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just didn't think there were still doing new music, but they're so performing.
[28:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, that's not surprising.
[28:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Everyone's still performing right now.
[28:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're high on the stage.
[28:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he said that he went to go see the free.
[28:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So good for them, it's still making many.
[28:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, with that.
[28:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Make a money.
[28:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So John, and like I said earlier, someone who shared with us that he was diagnosed with MS and he's a little worried and he's not sure how he's going to share that, you know, people.
[28:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: One time he has a date with Sarah, he does not close the door and said, yeah, that was my just how to date with my bottom two and was it yeah, it was great actually basically like who knew that someone in my bottom two could impress me because again, these guys think they're to shit and guys Sarah's a queen.
[29:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know Sarah put her in the Senate like Sarah is phenomenal.
[29:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I I don't have enough good things to say about her Her picker is broken because I don't know why she made the decision that she made but like she she reminds me so much of who was that the woman from Minna sort of red face Chris or she was also the doctor and like the
[29:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Doesn't do bodies everyday in that they remind me a lot of each other.
[29:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She is so self assured of who she is.
[29:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[29:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And like not at all afraid to this be like no fuck that like you're dumb.
[29:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And that makes play in the situation.
[29:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I like her a lot and I. Yeah.
[29:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't like Rob very much.
[29:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Not Rob John John.
[29:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[29:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, John comes with a lot of things that we're going to talk about, but for me, number one is just like, he wear, he wears his insecurity, I feel like he's insecure, and it's just like, listen, everybody has insecurities, but it's like he got to kind of manage it, but his is like a cloak.
[30:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: on him.
[30:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's like flipping it around on everybody's face.
[30:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, where it is.
[30:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, yes, she has a conversation with Mary and Mary is just more saying things like, I thought these guys, I don't know why I thought that since everyone is taking the red pill, everyone sounded conservative, not everyone, but like a lot of them said things like, um, I think Sarah's the one
[30:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, yeah, and someone was like, oh, the guys that you see like you haven't been spoiled by the guys And I'm like well, you haven't been ruined by the men and I'm like, what do you think she's there like popping bottles and popping her legs like what do you mean by I think so
[30:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And a couple of things about this.
[30:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Number one, he was like, well, I went my wife to be a bartender.
[30:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like a lamb surrounded by lions.
[30:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, that tells me a lot about how you act at the bar doesn't tell me anything about like worry about your wife.
[31:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's you are probably a gross man at the bar.
[31:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Number one.
[31:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Number two, that man got engaged to somebody on this show.
[31:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, we didn't see I forget the name of the woman.
[31:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't think she ever had any screen time, but they got engaged and she had like a whole thing on Instagram or TikTok, where she was like, yep.
[31:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, we spoke all the beans.
[31:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've not followed up because I don't care about that, man.
[31:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But like somebody, it got engaged to that dude.
[31:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I, it grosses me out, but they're not together anymore.
[31:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That sounds like they did not make it.
[31:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It sounds like she had a shot.
[31:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The post was like a shot of her hand with the ring on it.
[31:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it was like, yep, I also got engaged to John or to whatever that grows.
[31:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that shot, I think was his name.
[31:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[31:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All these men.
[31:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think he was Scott.
[31:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But it was like, yep, I also got engaged.
[31:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's true.
[31:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'll tell you all about it.
[31:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then I just, I didn't care enough about it to follow up.
[31:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I think what we're seeing here is the effects of casual manosphere just kind of clinging into a lot of single men.
[32:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Where it's like, I've never heard of the appeal of Joe Rogan, but millions of American men like that do it for some reason.
[32:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's a tough cast on Spotify.
[32:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, in like the world.
[32:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And his podcast sucks.
[32:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I think if you listen to enough of it, these little messages are going to creep in over time and get reinforced and just kind of restated.
[32:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I think we're seeing that on a lot of these dudes, where they've just consumed not like Andrew Tate content.
[32:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But a lot of bros stuff that just kind of you are with your eyes.
[32:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're doing them a favor Anyone who does this is not your wife because more more actually says something like I want to you seem like a girl I can bring home to mom.
[32:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What does that mean?
[32:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well he clarifies like not not sexy, but like pretty like what?
[32:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You made it worse.
[32:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't want to be sexy woman like what like I'm saying Like he's just and the guys more has the kind of voice that usually annoys me like I just put him I just want a dash of base in it It's all travel And you're dear like what I would I would I would I would I would do that?
[33:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, it is all trouble a sprinkle in mid range But there is no base in there at all
[33:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: with a sprinkle of whoresnets too.
[33:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, yes, he's making all these comments and he's trying to charm them and I get what Sarah is trying to say where it's like, Mori is all charm.
[33:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's all charm, he's all like great conversations, but it's like what you're saying real.
[33:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, are you just staying on the surface and he's doing that, you know, to multiple people?
[33:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's always on.
[33:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think that's the word for Murray.
[33:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So who are you really like can you actually reveal at some point?
[33:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Did he say something about a caramel macchiato is not mainly?
[33:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, okay.
[33:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, like I said, casual man atmosphere, he's like, you can't, if you get coffee, you can't order a caramel macchiato.
[34:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, that's not, that's not manly.
[34:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I love a hot chocolate though.
[34:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Excuse me.
[34:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm drinking hot chocolate right now.
[34:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The hot chocolate is not a manly drink to drink either man.
[34:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You should be saying, oh, I'm such a man, I'm going to black coffee.
[34:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's it.
[34:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, no, you can't, how is a caramel macchiato two feminine, but a hot chocolate is alpha type
[34:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, the more I watch reality shows, the more I find things that are gendered.
[34:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, when we were watching the swan, we found someone say, like, someone's teeth were masculine.
[34:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, the masculine.
[34:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, like what's it like?
[34:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Two teeth, man.
[34:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You all got them.
[34:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But yeah, they're putting all these.
[34:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: things in their minds.
[34:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, what is the world coming to, like, it's so weird.
[34:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And you know, speaking of that, and this is where John comes in.
[34:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So John is describing himself.
[34:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then this man says, like, he's sensitive about wearing glasses.
[34:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mm-hmm.
[34:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't get that.
[34:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, maybe it's because I've worn glasses in third grade.
[35:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I basically, and before that I needed them for at least two years and didn't know it.
[35:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So like, it's just kind of always been something for me.
[35:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what it would be like to be in my 30s.
[35:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Thinking I'm never going to need glasses and suddenly I need glasses.
[35:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know if I'd be self-conscious about that.
[35:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I can't imagine I would.
[35:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But babies, glasses, glasses, glasses.
[35:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not like an eye patch.
[35:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, you're going to wear glasses.
[35:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's glasses.
[35:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, it's not braces and head gear.
[35:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You have to wear the sleep every night.
[35:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's glad you can you need them to see.
[35:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You can't see other.
[35:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He made a whole big deal, preamble about it.
[35:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That Sarah thought he was about to say something else completely.
[35:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then he just looked like, yeah, this is my glasses.
[35:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, oh, well, yeah, that's not a big deal.
[35:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I wonder if he was going to tell her he had MS.
[35:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, and then just like, no, I can't, I can't say it yet.
[35:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I need to, I, it's not time yet because the way that he built it up was like listen, I got to ask you a pretty serious question here.
[36:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It says, I'm nervous to bring this up.
[36:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's a pretty big deal.
[36:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But how do you feel about glasses?
[36:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm just like, okay, if you were to settle that and been like, I had to let you know like I do have MS and this is what it's going on.
[36:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That preamble made so much more sense for that.
[36:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I wouldn't have even mentioned I had glasses and told she saw me because they're not unusual.
[36:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not like, oh my God, you have glasses.
[36:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not like a shocking thing.
[36:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, I can see that honestly, like I need to make sense out of it that that sense that it may be that's what it is.
[36:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But then they should have just had a confessional where he was like, I wanted to tell her, but I like her so much and I was scared that if I say it, I wasn't ready to tell her that.
[36:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I just went with glasses.
[36:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, make it make sense because it's the beginning of the sentence.
[36:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, so when he says like he's sensitive about glasses and then they start describing themselves and then this man says they call him Clark Kent.
[37:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I feel like one person was in there giving out nicknames, and everyone was like jumped onto what they were called.
[37:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, I think like if you're saying Clark Kent, then I said thinking about the kind of men that they cast for Superman.
[37:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I think in your jawline to crack nuts.
[37:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then you know, you're hair, you're dark hair, and you're just like, you know, Henry Cavill, Christopher, he's like that type.
[37:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, that wasn't a clear front.
[37:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[37:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[37:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: On there.
[37:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So yeah, this had talked about him like, um, okay.
[37:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, but Nina has decided that she isn't loved Murray.
[37:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like that.
[37:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can't stop thinking about you.
[37:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You are my man.
[37:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You are the one that I want.
[37:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then even Murray's like, uh, like.
[37:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Uh, close.
[37:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She maybe, you know, chill like all that and she's like you, I know what I want I know what this and she's very intense so at this point before not knowing what was gonna happen.
[37:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm just like, you know, men like crazy.
[37:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's probably gonna pick her and just have a granule time with her.
[38:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But then what I found out a pocket was like when he had a date with Sarah afterwards and talking about Benita to Sarah, I thought that was out of pocket.
[38:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just, it was.
[38:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you're dating multiple people, no one wants to hear about the other, like don't
[38:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Tramadam and all of you, he didn't, he didn't even tell her the truth, because he was he told everybody, oh my god, Jolmy, she loves me.
[38:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's not what she said, which he said is, I can see myself falling in love with you, which frankly is what we see on every couple of on this show.
[38:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like she said, what she said was not like insane for a love is blind.
[38:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: we see that with like soft piano music playing in the background of a montage with every golden couple on this show.
[38:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think that she just, number one, I think she really wanted to be on the show and then to go to the weddings and all of that.
[38:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it was kind of like, I know to do that.
[38:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm not only do I have to get engaged or somebody, I have to make it flowery and like it's true love and passionate and all that.
[39:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I think she is kind of misread to him and jump the gun a whole bunch.
[39:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But like what she said was not insane by love is blind standards.
[39:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he made it sound like she basically was like, listen, if I'm not going to be with you, I'm going to roam you and Juliet myself right now on camera.
[39:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Just like that's not what happened to your man.
[39:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's a brine who wasn't insane, but you have to account for tone.
[39:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, yeah.
[39:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Lady came in here and was just like, just pig, that you need to be like, who are you?
[39:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What do you want?
[39:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, how do you it?
[39:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You have to know it.
[39:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just know I shouldn't, but I know I keep thinking about you.
[39:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can't stop thinking about you.
[39:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can't, it was, it was heavy.
[39:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was heavy.
[39:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was broken.
[39:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I guess that makes a big sense.
[39:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't abuse a number of like, bulk and men.
[39:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't, I know like one bulk and woman, she doesn't seem like that at all.
[39:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I don't really understand, I don't know.
[39:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was very intense, but if he would've just said, like she's way too intense for me, that's one thing.
[40:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh my gosh, she'd love bomb me.
[40:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She'd love bomb bomb.
[40:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not what happened, man.
[40:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That is not, she was very intense.
[40:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's enough you can say that without having to do it like she profess her undying love for you on day one or whatever.
[40:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, I mean, sure, I'm giving her measurements on there.
[40:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She starts describing herself like, I'm not blonde.
[40:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Just FYI, I am this.
[40:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I wish you could see me right now.
[40:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, I'm very hot for that.
[40:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Who could believe the timing?
[40:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because this was filmed like a year and whatever it go.
[40:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And what are the odds that someone was asked?
[40:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Do you like Shane Gillis?
[40:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[40:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Of all comedians to bring up, too.
[40:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: on my list before I get the chain kill it's.
[40:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, I think he was married.
[40:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He was like, he's girlfriend is hot.
[40:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not because of how he looks.
[40:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He was like, which is true.
[40:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's like, I'm handsome.
[40:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, you know what?
[41:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That helps.
[41:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't think he's that handsome.
[41:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: none of them were like I just I don't know what this pick was uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
[41:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Good people to be cast like people that fit the show, I guess.
[41:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like it's not just been during it.
[41:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Is it the choice of cities?
[41:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like if Atlanta weren't, this is just doing it again five times over if they're,
[41:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: kind of characters that we meet.
[41:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[41:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know.
[41:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The casting is the problem because similar to Merit at first sight, like, why are you going out and recruiting people for this show?
[41:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's not somebody that was already thinking, like, oh, I'm gonna get married.
[41:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I would do this.
[41:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like, yeah, you found me on LinkedIn.
[41:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: All right.
[41:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I guess I'll, I could do that.
[41:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Get people that really want to do this and then you're gonna get a much better cast.
[42:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If you're out here looking for people, this isn't on their mind.
[42:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is not necessarily ready for this.
[42:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, so, yeah, let's talk about the OA.
[42:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There's something Bynida talked about where she was like, you know, she hasn't slept with a lot of people.
[42:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She doesn't really, you know, give her body away.
[42:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's always thinking about her future husband.
[42:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And so, you know, that's the thing where she goes slow on.
[42:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, which is allowed to, I don't know if I recall any,
[42:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: big reaction from anyone about that.
[42:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't think so.
[42:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I wonder, again, with like casual manals for your stuff, I know this is a big thing with those bad guys.
[42:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You'd better have a little body count and blah, blah, blah.
[42:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I wonder if it's one of those where it's like, I'm gonna drop a line here to let these guys know.
[42:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, oh, I am what you're looking for if you're into that kind of shit, I don't, I don't.
[42:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've never understood what that's supposed to be appealing, but that's just me, I guess.
[43:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Honestly, I do not understand Benita because on one point, she was also, was she another one talking about, you know, America and how people respect America, but she was talking to Yeah, I was to Blake because he was talking about being overseas a lot and stuff.
[43:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, she was talking to Blake about that and she's like, after respect us and all that and I was like, I can't get a read on her.
[43:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, I don't know on one hand, if she's like leaning tried white for if she's leaning, so it's like, it's like picking shoes.
[43:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm going to pick the things that benefit what I want to do, what on the flip side is like, oh, I'm going to be a traditional person.
[43:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So that's kind of what I was feeling.
[43:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think a lot of it just kind of felt like I'm trying to signal that I am the kind of woman that these men have all been told they're supposed to be looking for.
[43:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, that's a sort of, yeah.
[43:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[43:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know if there's a bigger hits than the guy that you're obsessed with listing other men for you to go hang out with because that's what Murray is like You know explore like go out there this guy is a great guy.
[44:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You should go.
[44:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, and the problem is he it felt like revenge when he did that because she mentioned some other guy.
[44:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't think she didn't like say why like this guy, whatever she said this guy's name
[44:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And like a switch flip, it was okay, go go be with him then could be with somebody else spend time with that guy he's great to and she's just like I didn't say I wanted somebody else You do you do you do you go do that and just like man This is insecurity as well.
[44:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, so I thought that Sarah was vibing with Marie.
[44:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She was like I have a good time.
[44:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know we talk all that and then from nowhere She just kind of tells him like my connection with the other person is stronger and I'm like oh
[44:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I know, it's right.
[44:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He does see that coming, but you know what, good for you.
[44:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So they cut it off and then he actually went home and this was the part where I was like wait, we had all this conversation and he's going home, he's not even going to do the thing where we go for the second person, what he was beneath us.
[45:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, here you cut it off.
[45:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, and now that we're talking about, I'm wondering for Sarah, if it was like, okay, he said no to Benita, I'm not super, super into this kind of like I like and we could work.
[45:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't want to be this situation where we go to the, the pods squad, hang out and now all of a sudden deal with him like drooling over Benita and all that stuff.
[45:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like I just don't, I don't need that in my life with this guy might have been part of the equation.
[45:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[45:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think that makes sense on there.
[45:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I think there was just not enough.
[45:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was like, she liked enough, she would have moved forward.
[45:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But Murray was not giving enough.
[45:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, yes, he was talking about Murray seem like a character in a movie, honestly.
[45:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he just kept, again, talking in like movies.
[45:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Do you like the town?
[45:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I like the town.
[45:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Is it that?
[45:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it was just like, guys, I think that's the thing with a lot of this guys.
[45:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Don't we're not giving depth?
[45:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, that's, he's, he's movies, he's movies and tapers whiffed.
[45:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's all this man was.
[46:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Uh, I mean, listen, it could be me, but hey, if you like it, I love it.
[46:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, okay.
[46:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So John finally tells Sarah about having MS and she takes it very well and she's like why that is not a problem because of like I just wanted to know if that's a problem and he's just she's like I'm fine and they she shares that her sister's husband is blind.
[46:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And, you know, he doesn't want the pity and, you know, she has experience like navigating around it.
[46:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I will say, like, you know, I want someone else for Sarah, but I always find it nice when these people find the things that they have in common, like, what are the odds?
[46:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Kind of like, you know, Taylor and Garrett when they have like that connection in science and it's like, he was just like, I'm never going to find anyone that's.
[46:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: in the same realm, but sure, I'll do this or whatever, and don't go, she even had a tattoo of whatever science talk to her talking about that season.
[46:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it's like when they have things like that, like because honestly, what are the odds that it's she's someone who has experience and has a family member that has like a significant
[47:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: health issue um like you know being with someone who's blind that takes a lot of like heart and then compact it's not for everyone it's not something it could do and the family has had to navigate that and know what how to deal with that so for her it was like you know for someone else it's like uh I just wonder how Benita would have handled this because
[47:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They don't have to deal with someone like Jacks.
[47:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Jacks has dreams.
[47:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So.
[47:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Jacks, it was the word, Jesus Christ.
[47:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I don't know.
[47:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know how beneath of what have handled it.
[47:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't think as well as Sarah did, confidently say that.
[47:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[47:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it worked out well in that regard.
[47:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I think that makes him happy.
[47:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But then things take a turn to the ground.
[47:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: for the ones not not for them for us because they're and you can't he says talking about the medical system saying that you know capitalism has you know invaded has been put into our system and he put out a statement saying he's not an anti-vaxxer but he's just like
[48:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He didn't take the vaccine if you want to vaccine that he bluces body has the natural vaccine And he doesn't understand why they have to do all this like people need to do their research Trying to force it on him is employers trying to make him take it.
[48:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I say this all the time
[48:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Everyone has a right to whatever it is you want to believe.
[48:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: When he comes to vaccines, I don't understand.
[48:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Have your thoughts on vaccines, but don't speak.
[48:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: From living with the privilege of having these vaccines.
[48:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We are living in a time where we don't consider the smallpox, the measles, the, well, they're making a comeback because of people like this, because of what this people have done.
[48:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And you're speaking from that privilege, and I'm like, what the, when you're doing your research, what are you doing blocking a whole bunch of facts?
[49:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mm-hmm.
[49:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Now, there's times where I find myself saying, like, if our ancestors could see us, like, how would they feel about this?
[49:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If people from, like, I don't know, the 1600s could see that we have a pretty painless process where you can protect yourself from all kinds of diseases.
[49:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then people were saying, I don't want that, you can't make me, they'd be like, I will push you down in the mud to get that thing.
[49:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: like there are people were dying left and right from like regular shit like tuberculosis is killing thousands of people all the time where they're from and they're like you could just not get it and you're just like I don't want to because you can't make me she number one her response was spot on
[49:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, because one of the things that she said is, I think that vaccines are like one of the most amazing things that humanity's ever done could not agree more with that like I don't I don't understand it and like I am as opposed to rampant capitalism as anybody you're going to meet we got all kind of problems.
[50:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I will save that for my political pod that I'll never do.
[50:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Bye.
[50:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We can't also just say, well, if capitalism touches it there for its bad, that's everything that we have.
[50:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're on Netflix right now, like your marriage is capitalism, so it's like, you know, it just
[50:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't understand it.
[50:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't, I never understood the like just blanket opposition to this one vaccine.
[50:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I have all the other ones, I just didn't want that one.
[50:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Bitch, why not?
[50:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They all do the same thing.
[50:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just, my blood was boiling, watching her have to like explain medicine to this man.
[50:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, and she was being very patient about it because the thing also that kind of pisses me off is like he didn't want to take anything for his MS because I don't know what solution is, but eventually I do know he is going to take some half some kind of treatment, but it's like if you have taken choose the treatment that is going to kind of help you going to give you the quality of life is from research that people have done.
[51:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So you were in glasses right now.
[51:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What about that?
[51:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's like that.
[51:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's also so fast.
[51:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Capitalism in glasses.
[51:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Come on.
[51:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, it's so frustrating because you also know that.
[51:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, it seemed like he was willing to listen to her.
[51:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I hope it was genuine, but it's also like,
[51:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Realistically, when you try to explain this, everyone seems to have their mind made up, and it's like not understanding that no one had ever experienced COVID at the time.
[51:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it's like, again, if you don't want to take it great, but then there are other people who are really in danger, but again, you not want to take it also comes from the privilege that you're not like, was it called compromised?
[51:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, you know, for that question.
[51:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[51:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So there's just a lot of it on there.
[51:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then as if things weren't even worse, he brings up a portion again and Sarah's like, oh, good to hear, but I'm pretty sure it's like, then he goes to six months and how many, what, she's through facts at him.
[52:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was sad that she had to throw facts.
[52:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, again, you said you've done extensive research.
[52:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Where are these?
[52:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I did balance.
[52:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Were you just looking for something to validate?
[52:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Were you coming from?
[52:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: has to do that is very negligible, then you talk about the young girl, the six-year-old that was raped, and she's like, I hate that example, then he goes, oh, yeah, I hate that, too.
[52:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You brought it up.
[52:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, and there's a couple of things here.
[52:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Number one, if you think that women are going through six months of pregnancy and then just deciding, you know what, never mind.
[52:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: you've never met a woman, like that's not a thing that happens.
[52:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And what made it even worse to me was that he said, well, why should you just be able to do it because you just didn't get around to it?
[52:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Again, never met a woman.
[52:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Do you know how shitty that first trimester can be?
[52:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like my wife was miserable the whole time.
[53:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So this idea that he thinks that just like women or just like, ah, you know, I don't feel like go on the day.
[53:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know, I'll just put it off another month.
[53:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: None of this is with any kind of understanding of how this works.
[53:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If you are getting
[53:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: an abortion that leading your pregnancy, it is a tragic situation.
[53:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Something has happened.
[53:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This was almost every time a baby you wanted.
[53:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And they're telling you it's not going to be viable.
[53:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: there's gonna be some kind of an issue.
[53:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You, your life is in danger if you continue this pregnancy.
[53:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The idea that women are using abortion as birth control six months into their pregnancy is such an insane dumb thing that again, I have to blame on casual manosphere just creeping in and infecting your fucking brain.
[53:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, did you just focus on people who are just like, oh, you think,
[53:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know how to skate, so I'm just going to do it.
[53:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And oh, it's birth control.
[53:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, no, again, I don't know.
[54:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can't remember if it's a fact where it's a like, there's a high number of Mary people who have abortions.
[54:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, most people have abortions already have kids.
[54:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[54:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And they're thinking like you have to be the, the, what is it?
[54:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The, not victim, the perfect, the perfect person.
[54:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, the perfect person.
[54:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[54:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So they're trying to like put people in labels, put people in boxes and just like,
[54:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't want to be pregnant is a totally fine reason to have an abortion the whole example of like the girl who's raped by her uncle of course she should be able to get an abortion but also if you're 25 years old and have a career that you love and just don't want to have a baby that's also a viable reason to not continue your pregnancy like it's just again I will do a political podcast and 70 years will talk about all these things but I'm just like I these conversations just irritate me like what do you do in man?
[54:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, it don't come here and say like you've done all the research and then it's just like one side It I guess and then your whole goal is just to put holes like well, how about the person who has like seven abortions?
[55:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're being irresponsible and they're being on it.
[55:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, how about the other ones?
[55:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, it's like a healthy related thing and it's like also I'm a responsible shit.
[55:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We all be responsible shit like so that you're responsible.
[55:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay?
[55:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, I think in a statement, he was just like, oh, this is what he did.
[55:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She challenges me.
[55:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was able to see the other side and all that.
[55:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So whatever.
[55:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, no, Sarah loves it.
[55:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What are we going to do?
[55:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There's another we do.
[55:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, the Pickler's broken.
[55:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's what I'm saying.
[55:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But the thing is, yes, he may be saying this, but the fact that that was already in his mind.
[55:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he already thought about it.
[55:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's just like an inkling into other things that he's going to have.
[55:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: thoughts on and it's like, uh, was it Ben for Minnesota who didn't Minneapolis, who allegedly had no thoughts and, oh, no, I'm fine.
[55:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm whatever, but it's like, you have to have a stance.
[55:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're an adult.
[55:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it's right there.
[55:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So we'll see how that goes, but it's just my eyes on this guy.
[55:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I don't know.
[56:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But they were the first reveal.
[56:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, Shirley, they're not the golden couple, but I'm not for me.
[56:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're not.
[56:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm actually that I have one, but it's not them.
[56:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Mmm, best of the litter, I don't know.
[56:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, let's see.
[56:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: On there.
[56:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay.
[56:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, we had a quick cam and he had in my lane.
[56:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Cam is, I don't believe in inviting people to the cookout, but Cam is a man of the world.
[56:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Cam has all of the things.
[56:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I first thought it was lying, but that man isn't lying.
[56:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Somebody went to his Instagram.
[56:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's out there and he's can't take a clock.
[56:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's in his rear, he's in his travel and everything.
[56:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Cam has, you know, went to Ghana, went to South Africa, did it all the things.
[56:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, he lived there.
[56:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He did all the things.
[56:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He said it's there.
[56:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm too, oh god, I saw a clip that came on.
[56:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, I really wish I remembered so I can give them a shout out, like give them credit because it's what it was and it was like, we know what it is that if you see his love is mine picture, his promo picture, he has that was up.
[57:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: My dude looked like his fist, making him fist, like the pose and everything.
[57:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, look, I'm like, oh, I know this guy.
[57:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I know this up.
[57:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: and everything so um yeah so like he's lived a very full life but he's so unassuming when you look at him, Cam is the widest of white guys like he's just like you don't see he doesn't even have the tapered haircut that gives it away he's just like
[57:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[57:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Surprise.
[57:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Who were the thought, you know?
[57:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So he likes Malayne.
[57:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Malayne is one of the two black girls that actually featured, and we had more, but they were actually featured.
[57:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I thought Malay would go far, but spoiler alert, no, she didn't.
[57:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Nope.
[57:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's there.
[57:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But then there's a Nila.
[57:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Nila is telling you, oh, and Nihah.
[57:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, sorry.
[57:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[57:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's typo on your side.
[58:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, I never corrected Christmas ever happened, but you're right.
[58:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Thank you, right.
[58:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was about to subscribe to you.
[58:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And yeah.
[58:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, I didn't like, you know, he's my person.
[58:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're fine.
[58:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's my person.
[58:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, that's the person I've decided.
[58:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I didn't see much chemistry with them that I didn't think that it was going to be a thing.
[58:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I mean, again, because cameras done everything can get along with everyone.
[58:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, he read a certain book.
[58:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't remember the title that she knew it.
[58:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, wait, what?
[58:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, because I think it was a by an Indian author,
[58:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, it was like an Indian spiritual book.
[58:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what sort of religious book or what, but apparently it has like spiritual significance.
[58:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, and she's just like, what?
[58:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not the deal.
[58:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's the start of it.
[58:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You are definitely my person.
[58:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, I'm not going anywhere on that.
[58:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I didn't see much chemistry between them.
[58:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I didn't know what was going on, but any had decided that this is my person and like Benita, it worked for her because from nowhere, he, you know,
[59:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He broke up with Malay and was like, I'm deciding I'm going to go in.
[59:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He had this is my person and they become a couple and we will get into that in the reveals.
[59:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because do you have anything else?
[59:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think that all the things that any have mentioned are just like, you know, her parents were immigrants and I'm like, again, here we are giving things away.
[59:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But, you know,
[59:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, that, and also that she doesn't drink and like decided that like five years old she was never going to drink or whatever.
[59:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes.
[59:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Which, you know, I'm curious.
[59:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm curious why they told us that because it kind of feels like they don't use he drops off in the pods that doesn't come back.
[59:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So morning, if there's going to be an issue with him drinking or something like that.
[59:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, and I did forget to mention that departed the fishing of how people look like with Blake at some point, Blake was talking to who was Blake talking to at some point.
[59:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Who's what?
[59:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Who's that?
[59:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I got something.
[1:00:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, no, no, no, it was Aaron Dawson when he said we could be Travis Kelsey and Kellen equal.
[1:00:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, yeah.
[1:00:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, she's like, yeah, I'm not, you know, and then why would we bring it?
[1:00:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He does not call like Travis Kelsey.
[1:00:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No.
[1:00:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Is this a second time this man is coming up again?
[1:00:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But also, I thought he was retailer already.
[1:00:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They say dating in 2018.
[1:00:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, they've been dealing for a long time now.
[1:00:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm not sure what he's doing.
[1:00:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was very pointed.
[1:00:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Kelly Cole like him just how you black what are you whatever and she's like I like her just like okay got it Okay, thank god And then Somebody else pointed out that When he was talking to you know, that was Rob when we were talking to Diana and talking about the Alarm the smoke alarm It's my trip south figure out Oh my god
[1:00:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: like it does everyone is fishing so hard.
[1:00:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you hear so much, walk on the show.
[1:00:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That is the question.
[1:00:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why are you on the show?
[1:01:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Right.
[1:01:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So yeah, so then we have a couple of cam and any huh.
[1:01:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, then we have Willney Wilson and Malayne.
[1:01:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, as we already said, Malayne is here, but she's not really featured.
[1:01:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Willy makes it a point to always say, like, she's only date, you know, she isn't a quarters.
[1:01:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is how we meet Willy.
[1:01:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's in the quarters and she's talking to the rest of the women, she's like, oh, my connections are black.
[1:01:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay.
[1:01:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:01:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay.
[1:01:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then she's like, it's the first time.
[1:01:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I only did white men.
[1:01:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Little did I know that was one of many times she was going to bring that up and I'm like, you want a cookie?
[1:01:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You want the whole star?
[1:01:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why are he saying this over and over again?
[1:01:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, then when we're talking in the pods, she's saying, like, you know, what do you think about adoption?
[1:01:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't mind us, you know, adopting a kid.
[1:01:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, I wanted to bring a kid, you know, bring him over to give them the life that he didn't live.
[1:01:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I would like them to come from a third world country.
[1:02:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I just think patriotic.
[1:02:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The first I was like, I'm going to ask Brian about this because it's like, listen, I'm from a country that, you know, yes, the world calls a third world country, but I'm like, at this point, she's describing everything but hasn't said where she's from because he is going to ask at the reveal, like, you know, where you from.
[1:02:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just don't understand why she didn't say I would like to bring someone from my country knowing that right Even opportunity but to say to bring someone from a thorough country to give them further because at that time I thought she was
[1:02:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Born and raised like she was like full American like just born and raised here like she is American.
[1:02:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not saying she's not but like here And I'm like so what's wrong with a duck thing you can't hear like I just like why specifically a third world country So he didn't make sense or click to me and I'm just like Anybody deserves the life, but if you say oh, I Drop here I've seen this and I was just like to get I don't know it was just much it would have been a better phrasing than whatever the hell Like it is that she said, but what do you thoughts?
[1:03:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's a number of red flags that have about her is a number of red flags that have about her and you know the first one Saying like I only date white men and then specifically like As soon as she like a dirty Vermont white man is what she was described like a mountain man.
[1:03:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I'm like this is that's a
[1:03:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't understand that.
[1:03:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think if it's one thing, if it's like, I've only been in like two serious relationships and neither one of them with somebody that was black.
[1:03:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, I could understand how that's a thing, but to be, it almost came off, like she was like, I have written off black men entirely and I never go that direction.
[1:03:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That was odd.
[1:03:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The third world comment odd.
[1:03:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't,
[1:03:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If you want, I mean, there's, we don't call them third-world nations anymore.
[1:03:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: In other words, the developing nations is what we usually say.
[1:03:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There's no thing I was like, what the world calls it, and I'm, well, not the world, yeah.
[1:04:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know, yeah, those of us who know better.
[1:04:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, it's like, but even minutes, like, how do we even get on to adoption in the first place?
[1:04:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't think she said she has fertility issues.
[1:04:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's not like, you know, in paraminopause, she's not old.
[1:04:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Listen, she's fine if she wants to adopt.
[1:04:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like ever you don't have to have any issues to want to adopt because right after that she's like that I want to have to feel of being pregnant.
[1:04:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, right, so I'm looking for a lot of things.
[1:04:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It just feels like, you know, I I said this before with Thomas and Camille from that season.
[1:04:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I love as I'm right at first sight where it's like it's almost like you are black but removed from the black cultural experience.
[1:04:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Where it's just like, I don't know if you just aren't ever around other black people or what.
[1:04:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But there's other things that happen later on that'll also bring up from just like, I'm looking at you a little bit sideways right now.
[1:04:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I, I don't, I doesn't feel good.
[1:04:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And also like I said, they don't tell us this stuff.
[1:05:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It doesn't come back up later on.
[1:05:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I'm assuming she's going to do something fucked up.
[1:05:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like in the next drop or I'm like, oh, see there you go.
[1:05:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's what it is.
[1:05:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I am uneasy with her.
[1:05:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I'm with you on everything like, and then again, she mentions like, I don't have to typical Western what did she say western westernized some westernized what are you talking about yeah, yeah, she's not she's not the westernized beauty standard or whatever, I'm just like who you're not the hero step in this standard right.
[1:05:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you mean then, you know, I'm like, there is nothing, do you know how many people like that?
[1:05:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, she made me just on top of the screen.
[1:05:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm not sure what my name is usually like, is what she was saying.
[1:05:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm just like, I don't know where it started from.
[1:05:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's like, like you said, was she just growing, she grew up around a lot of white people and then she felt so other and then she just felt like less than.
[1:05:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then she's trying to prove a point.
[1:06:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: standard of measurement is through the eyes of like yeah white men's specifically which is a fraught place to be in our modern age if that's your centerpiece for like your self worth yes but also there's something and I mentioned this in 90 day because you know car the guy that car finds a attractive on 90 day and we know we did temptation island when um whoever the girl was guys there's a lot of TV shows
[1:06:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But she decided like the guy she was going to move on with was the black guy and we talked about how some people who generally don't date black guys But then they come on TV shows and it's like hey, this is my chance to just kind of by the end of the day.
[1:06:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They know long-term You know, that's what they're going to go back to right.
[1:06:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I didn't think that would be in a situation where it was going to be a black woman
[1:06:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Surprise.
[1:06:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Here we are.
[1:06:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's going to because now when she's like, he's black and he's like, oh, and then we're going to go through the reveals where it's just feels like She's looking at him like an artifact that's like wow and he's mine and he's mine and it's like
[1:07:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've never seen a black woman fetish as a black man before, but here you are.
[1:07:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Black fetishization, I'm like, I don't even know what to do with it.
[1:07:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can't think of it.
[1:07:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: How am I going to talk about this?
[1:07:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because I don't want to put things on the women, but this is very strange.
[1:07:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Does she not have a voice?
[1:07:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's strange.
[1:07:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, it's in our face.
[1:07:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just, yeah, yeah, everything about it was, you know, not happy, not happy with some representation that is happening here.
[1:07:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So Malayne decides after she gets dumped by Cam that she's going home.
[1:07:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, we're what?
[1:07:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean it might be no no for the second choice and then even worse the producer asked like why do you not want to um tell Wilson or anything she's like why dump him and she's like eh it's easier by saying our she's like what's up with him's like I'm gonna do on that so as if the consequence really is not enough will he thought it her place to tell Wilson that she left
[1:08:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, why are you doing that?
[1:08:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes.
[1:08:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why would you do that?
[1:08:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, well, I don't know if it's my place, but people are leaving and he's like, oh, he's like, who leaves?
[1:08:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What?
[1:08:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, Malay left.
[1:08:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, I didn't know if I should tell you, yeah, you did.
[1:08:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You sat there like, I'm gonna, you know, tell you, and I'm just like, this isn't sitting.
[1:08:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He was gonna get him to lock in right now if I tell him this.
[1:08:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[1:08:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:08:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I mean, it worked.
[1:08:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I did.
[1:08:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I did.
[1:08:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I didn't finish shooting with them.
[1:08:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was thinking Wilson would be like, you know, I'm out like, I don't really think I'm not fully there.
[1:08:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't want to drag this bit.
[1:08:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It worked and that's going to be a couple.
[1:08:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she's engaged.
[1:09:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is going to be something.
[1:09:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All right, we have Jack's and Stu.
[1:09:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Stu is from Connecticut, but I don't know.
[1:09:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's in Boston now, you know?
[1:09:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It is.
[1:09:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Everyone, you know, the internet he's saying that he looks like Peter Gallagher, which sure he's just good gigantic eyebrows, it's all
[1:09:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's how what it is.
[1:09:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have stew has a lot of dot, dot, dot face to just listen face listen.
[1:09:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I watched this with my wife and I said to her you're going to think I sound crazy, but you got a big ass face right.
[1:09:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's got a lot of fake his faces on his head, but you got a lot of face like the features individually are fine, but together it's just face is a lot of face.
[1:09:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:09:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's a big ass face.
[1:09:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's a big face.
[1:09:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's a big face.
[1:09:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, guys, a lot of their conversations were done.
[1:10:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was trying to keep up.
[1:10:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, what are the highlights?
[1:10:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Let me put that down.
[1:10:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: These are just two.
[1:10:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: These two.
[1:10:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Superficial people.
[1:10:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he's so focused on the superficial.
[1:10:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's just cracking all these jokes that are not funny.
[1:10:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He doesn't make any sense.
[1:10:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Listen, at the time that he was even proposing, he doesn't even pretend to kneel.
[1:10:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you guys watch my house and you remember David leaning into the couch, that man was very relaxed into the couch as he proposed.
[1:10:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she's like, sure, why not?
[1:10:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I thought Jack to be like a bitch.
[1:10:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Jack's wanted to be, oh no, let's see you, K girl, the ended up with AJ.
[1:10:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I can see her.
[1:10:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: See, was it Kira, Kira?
[1:10:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, Kira, Kira, because I remember it was Sierra, but Kira, but pronounce Kira.
[1:10:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, she wanted to be Kira, like, you know, I went the lifestyle and then she's like, stew, sounds like he comes from money, stew the third, like, okay, I'm gonna get in there and have all the things.
[1:10:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, money.
[1:10:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There was not a connection.
[1:10:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There was just, um,
[1:11:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: strategic union of people.
[1:11:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know what?
[1:11:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Back in the day when you know the rich people were like the families of Gallagher and whatever come together with the children that's just what she had in mind and that's what she was trying to go for and
[1:11:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's it for this too, but we'll have more later for them with their review.
[1:11:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:11:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay.
[1:11:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So the last one is the Rob Diana and Michaela.
[1:11:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Rob, again, like I mentioned, is the older oldest one in there.
[1:11:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's 38.
[1:11:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's, say, finding similarities with Diana, deep with low Frank Sinatra.
[1:11:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're talking about things that, you know, they like together.
[1:11:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then he's talking about, you know, I'm bougie.
[1:11:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, I have one when I travel.
[1:11:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't want the middle seat and I'm like, is not wanting the middle seat bougie because I mean, one step.
[1:11:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't consider myself bougie.
[1:11:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Nobody wants the middle seat.
[1:11:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I never, like, I do whatever I cannot to get the middle seat, but I think what he missed is that as long as you're in economy, you are not.
[1:12:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're fighting for a middle seat because you're in economy.
[1:12:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you are bougie, you will find yourself in first class.
[1:12:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: First class with them lay down seats in a pod.
[1:12:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You have a serious experience.
[1:12:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes.
[1:12:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Anyone the middle seat, I'm too bougie.
[1:12:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not being bougie.
[1:12:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You have a preference.
[1:12:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not being bougie.
[1:12:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's uncomfortable.
[1:12:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And also, if it's nobody wants it, you pay for your preferred seat.
[1:12:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, yeah, what is wrong with this?
[1:12:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, honestly.
[1:12:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No.
[1:12:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So again, this man is for a thing pops up because I think Rob is the one who mentioned the bar thing also.
[1:12:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, was he Blake?
[1:12:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Maybe.
[1:12:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, well, the bar thing was, was Scott that didn't get him.
[1:12:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Scott, okay, yes, they didn't get picked.
[1:12:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[1:12:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because he tells Diana, like, you know, I like you.
[1:12:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're the person, like you are 10 years younger.
[1:12:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can help guide you.
[1:12:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You are gross, man.
[1:12:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're dead.
[1:12:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're someone to be her husband.
[1:12:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What is wrong with the man aren't lonely enough?
[1:13:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: All right.
[1:13:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is what's going on.
[1:13:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't, again, I've not been a single man in a very long time.
[1:13:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I can remember being single and like so much of what I spent time on was trying to figure a woman like so I can be those things.
[1:13:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It seems like that's not a thing dude to do anymore.
[1:13:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then I'm like,
[1:13:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They make it pretty obvious what they like.
[1:13:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're not doing any of that shit.
[1:13:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:13:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So that happened.
[1:13:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He thinks he's the one again who thinks that he looks like Travis Kelsey.
[1:13:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And that's right.
[1:13:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Again.
[1:13:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We talked about the sequencing because I think at some point Rob is asking who's left and someone is like, oh, we'll need it.
[1:13:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, we just got engaged.
[1:13:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We just watch that.
[1:13:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he keeps going on about, oh, I don't know if we've talked about looks and like you are not supposed to talk about looks.
[1:13:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because like, that's why we're doing this experiment.
[1:13:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're not supposed to talk about it.
[1:13:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So wherever he keeps going, dodging and weaving trying to find it, I think at some point
[1:14:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He did it a number of times.
[1:14:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Frankly, it's a good Trump impression.
[1:14:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm not sure why he's doing it though.
[1:14:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, but like, he's good at it, but like, for what?
[1:14:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But we're doing voice work now.
[1:14:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You could tell, Michaela's like, are we done yet?
[1:14:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, okay, now you get it, you stop.
[1:14:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Now I heard it, it's enough.
[1:14:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Diana's like, pick me, you already chose me, which and all fairness, Rob did say you are my person.
[1:14:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You are the person I just want to make sure that that happened.
[1:14:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But when he goes with Michaela, I'm Michaela just like, listen, I need you to go through the full experiment.
[1:14:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I need you to make sure like I am the person that you want and just like I like,
[1:14:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: you know go through me like I'll wait like it's fine and he's like you know what you're mature then he decides that he wants Michaela and he's not sure about that and I think it's the way that it's easy to say like Diana was like you know being immature and all that maybe there is something maturity on there but the way he was able to assure both women and make them so sure you can't tell Diana like I'm your person and then it's like break up with her already instead of Ariana Grande song
[1:15:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But, and then Michaela comes to the quarters with like, what was it 36 roses?
[1:15:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like the huge bouquet of roses?
[1:15:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, back in the roses.
[1:15:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then before that, you gave her a bottle of wine, like, come on.
[1:15:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:15:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're moving funny.
[1:15:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're moving funny.
[1:15:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She made his choice and you were like, hey, dump her.
[1:15:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You like me.
[1:15:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Pick me right now.
[1:15:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm just like, okay, I'm not going to now.
[1:15:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't like that energy coming off of you.
[1:15:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's because he said he said it.
[1:15:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He was just like, you're my person.
[1:15:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is it.
[1:15:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're going to think of the Frank Sinatra songs and all that or whatever, but you made both of them so sure.
[1:15:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I keep saying it.
[1:15:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Stop making this big promises on to you date.
[1:15:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Stop saying you are my part.
[1:15:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're the one.
[1:15:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're the whatever.
[1:15:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like.
[1:15:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Figure out what you need to figure out and then actually say like okay, yes, and I get it like especially because we don't have a timeline right after like 10 days or whatever everyone's proposing on the same day the day before if you don't know I understand that's a little annoying like you should know because you do have to make a choice so don't tell me I'm your person in two days later.
[1:16:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I get you know what my bad thank you you're not
[1:16:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So he does make a choice.
[1:16:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He chooses Michaela and that's what it is.
[1:16:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I was just looking like, wow, episode five.
[1:16:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And we still have these two yapping away in the bots.
[1:16:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: At this point, we should be wrapping everything up.
[1:16:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yep, we should be getting drunk and yelling at each other at the resort.
[1:16:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[1:16:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, I mean, that was it for the pods.
[1:16:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't want the episode to be so long, so you can catch part two of this episode where we're just gonna talk about the reveals, because a lot more happens in the reveals that makes it a little bit longer than it is.
[1:16:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So hop on over to the other episode, and you can catch the reveals on there, but before we switch over Brian, he sure where people where they can find you.
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[1:17:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've got a lot of thoughts about hypocrisy and bullshit like putting in the show.
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