# Love is Blind UK: S3 Eps. 5-8 w/Brian

An episode of [Tayne Talks: A Reality TV Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1522401890), 8 Sep 2026, 1 h 51 min.

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## Transcript

[0:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Teen Talks.
[0:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I am your host, Tane.
[0:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Here to talk today to you about love is blind new cases in three episodes five to eight here with me is Brian from Mass Virgin.
[0:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Hello, Brian.
[0:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What's up?
[0:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's college football season.
[0:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I am in the best Marika possibly being except for Michigan new source of read-a-win.
[0:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So other than that, my team won 40 to nothing,
[0:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Congratulations, that is one area, you know, nothing about it.
[0:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, it's not nothing, but it's not my fortune.
[0:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And no more about that than do about reality TV.
[0:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like other passion.
[0:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Brian, I keep telling you, we got to do trivia or we got to get on pop culture jeopardy together.
[0:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We should.
[0:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We would win.
[0:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Make it a reality.
[0:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know that far.
[1:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I feel like I'll freeze.
[1:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I get on there.
[1:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I did a bravo trivia the other day and one of the questions was, what is Kyle Cook's alcohol line or I froze?
[1:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, oh, what?
[1:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What?
[1:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It came to me eventually, but I just froze and I was like, this is so embarrassing, but then
[1:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: number point came to me thankfully because I'm never able to live it down with myself because no one else there was a one-man team of me but yes I'm so aware of the fact that I do not have friends that are into pop culture around me and that I just think everybody isn't it's weird right it's my brain
[1:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I've got two different trivia teams.
[1:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: One team, nobody watched the reality at all.
[1:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm just like, how, I can't talk to you guys.
[1:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is six of you.
[1:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, how do none of you guys watch reality?
[1:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: My other one, like most of them watch at least something that I watch.
[1:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Is it like something there?
[1:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm just like, what do you guys do all day?
[1:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, what is your, what is your content plate look like?
[1:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I know like the whole place is buzzing about phagia and ct and it's like a lot of my friends are getting me blanks It's and then even when they say ct they go into like, oh, that guy from the real world and then that pisses me off Because they don't know like this.
[2:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's actually on a current season of the challenge right now But they're like, I don't have time for all of that.
[2:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I just keep quiet and I'm like, yes
[2:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I know he's on it.
[2:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I know it's still on.
[2:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I've never seen him in anything except for the real world.
[2:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So that's all I know him from.
[2:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's even worse, because at least people are saying traders.
[2:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I didn't watch that season.
[2:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I know he is, but I'm like, that's even worse.
[2:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The reason why it's annoying is because then I can't go into my rant of why I think it's so fake.
[2:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, ah, but, you know, I don't just, my initial reaction was like, oh, this is bullshit.
[2:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't even know anything about him.
[2:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, but yeah, I don't buy it for a second.
[2:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And get my face if it is true, but no, it's not true.
[2:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But yeah, guys, patient.com, masks is over, back to bonus episodes.
[3:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There is a bonus episode up there.
[3:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: AIDS joined me to recap death of a past's wife, which was so sad.
[3:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Sad and frustrating, because we didn't get a, and he kind of conclusion to it.
[3:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Not kind of conclusion, but just how with this out here, it's full every Sunday, even though all these things were happening and then as usual Netflix doesn't cover the darkness like how he's died.
[3:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They just like brush pasted his son though that and you know and then as always I have questions for example I just wanted to know like was it's her choice not to have kids was it his choice for them not to have kids like it just seemed for someone like that the narcissism move what to reproduce that.
[3:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But thank God, because it seems like it's generational, but yeah, go listen to all our thoughts and questions over on death of a pastor's wife and also as always let me know which you like me to cover and which you'd like to hear for bonus episodes.
[4:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, want to say thank you to you guys a number of you responded and confirming that in fact it was not 13 couples that got engaged.
[4:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was 14.
[4:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why?
[4:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is what they gave us.
[4:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Wow.
[4:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, yeah, that's that.
[4:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's almost everybody.
[4:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Who would lose or two?
[4:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Who could not make it?
[4:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Two dumb asses you didn't realize when the only ones left.
[4:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh my god, that's insane.
[4:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That has to be a record.
[4:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't think that would be beat ever.
[4:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And honestly, I just think this should be a spit off and just show us, well, it's too late.
[4:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you didn't do it then, just make them season four of UK.
[4:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You don't have a whole other season in the bag right now.
[4:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, I think what's more important is how many of those people are still engaged.
[4:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, some of these people within make it, we're going to talk about it.
[4:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But the rest of the people, you know, who made it and who didn't, I would like to know.
[5:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, uh, and also for confirming that Joseph is Nigerian.
[5:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, later on by time I got it later on in the episode, he did say my dad was for the Nigerian.
[5:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I was like, who?
[5:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know if he was stupid.
[5:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: game recognized game so far is good representation it's been a bad run for us for a while so
[5:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They were all in specifically for the men.
[5:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, for the men, on all the shows, the 90 days, the other things, and they say Joseph, how did they say it's me?
[5:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They don't say Joseph.
[5:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, they just don't know.
[5:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know if it's just an accent or how he actually pronounces it.
[5:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just don't know.
[5:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think it's an accent thing.
[5:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because there's people that call it that say it's not greasy.
[5:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, that's a weird way to say that.
[5:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So like, yeah, it's greasy.
[5:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It sounds like a raffer named.
[5:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: My dad is from South Carolina, you'll see it's greasy and what's like that.
[5:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Come on, man.
[5:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's greasy, baby.
[6:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Right, greasy on the beat.
[6:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Exactly.
[6:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, check one, two, one, two.
[6:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right.
[6:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think someone isn't need to say, like, because, you know, I was like, what does AJ do?
[6:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why is this man taking a detour from his career?
[6:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Do you not have bills to pay?
[6:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it like it seems like A2 comes from money and like good for him, but it's not his must be so he's to figure it out.
[6:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So yeah, thank you guys and we'll just dive straight into this.
[6:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's a lot to cover.
[6:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So just kind of covering wilder and Ibiza and then when they go back to London and then all the group stuff that happened in between.
[6:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And you know, when you're a podcaster, once you see group stuff, you're like, It's the worst.
[6:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Don't do that to me.
[6:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: How is it in the middle of the episode, especially?
[6:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If it's not chronologically at the end, like how dare you do this to me.
[6:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're just like... Mashed fuck me over.
[6:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: How are you going to fit this in because this person talks about it that does it has to make sense that I'm like, Oh, anyway, so yeah, we're still in my beef.
[7:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like I said, and they're waking up from their first night.
[7:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He has been in Jordan.
[7:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They did share bed and I'm like, okay, that's good.
[7:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it looks like she ended up on his chest.
[7:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says she felt comfortable.
[7:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I say in Jack, she called him the Cornish Minus and I mean, I'll be young, I mean, I'll be old, but I think that means something went down in the bay.
[7:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Seems like it seems like he was doing weird shit.
[7:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like he's four hours before tricks.
[7:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He got secret moves.
[7:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: because she is blushing so he didn't he did not reveal I will say this for Jack he did not actually say oh we had sex or whatever he just said we had a good night and I'm looking forward to tonight again which for Jack I mean bear me to my mom I'm not giving credit for that I'm just surprised that he didn't come right out and say boy that was the thing like she was on you know who said that
[7:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He had to run down like helicopter dick and what do you mean that fitting for him Sean style He said He says is looking forward to showing fake like showing her off and then Tira comes up again face on my is that probably Tira thought that Jack liked her the most and when Faye and Jack connected she just saw it that oh he changed his mind overnight
[8:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Which is the truth?
[8:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He did change his mind over there.
[8:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's what happened.
[8:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I think the problem for me or the question for me is why does Kira care?
[8:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Kira needs therapy.
[8:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Kira care is about all kind of wild shit that isn't pertaining to her.
[8:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: In this case, when it's this kind of a thing, I'm always kind of curious.
[8:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Are you somebody who's like never been rejected before?
[8:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like are you somebody who's never like liked a guy and not have the guy like you back?
[8:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Which I think is what we saw with clamslam on love island.
[9:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, she just, she was like dumbfounded.
[9:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, well, I'm the only blonde here and none of these guys are into blondes.
[9:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What am I supposed to do?
[9:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm kind of wanting to fix the same thing with Kira where she's like, I'm so used to just,
[9:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Any guy that I show interest in giving me that level of interest back and I don't know how to handle myself.
[9:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Understand that he likes somebody else more than me.
[9:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I think that is a good point and I think that does play a factor, including the part where he said like our conversation was so boring and so.
[9:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Right.
[9:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: which she did not take them.
[9:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Boring, and she's just like, so I think it's that.
[9:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like, how dare you think that someone else is better than me.
[9:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm the prize.
[9:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You should have, you know.
[9:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And frankly, he did not call you boring.
[9:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He said that your conversation was boring, which I get that.
[9:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We hear what we want to hear and she's just perpetuating that every time, you know, the top about it.
[10:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was going to say like maybe like it's a blonde thing, but phase blonde too.
[10:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So there's like to stand on on that.
[10:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, he didn't know.
[10:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, I mean, well, now that she lost the hospital.
[10:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, and she's just like, you know,
[10:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not going to be like Jessica, which is like an epipen.
[10:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're going to miss out and what it is whatever.
[10:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So because again, we've talked about this.
[10:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I keep them with like love island and all the stuff.
[10:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The hair color is so important to these people.
[10:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Blonde.
[10:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Blonde.
[10:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's it because it's never all a red head.
[10:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's always blonde, brunette.
[10:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, you guys, it's getting weird.
[10:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: a ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[10:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: um the couples meet up for the first time um they make them do this thing where they walk through the path they look at each other they walk in slow-mo creepily staring into each other's eyes as they all come in.
[11:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is when I noticed that Taylor
[11:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: has a tattoo very low in his pelvis in the front.
[11:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like I don't know what it is.
[11:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Is it a flame?
[11:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Is it a dragon?
[11:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what it is, but what is the opposite of a tramp stamp?
[11:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If a tramp stamp is your lower back, what is your lower pelvis?
[11:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Tramp stamp.
[11:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh god, I don't even know.
[11:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have a friend that has one of these.
[11:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I don't know what you call that.
[11:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Is a friend of mine from high school.
[11:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He was in a band called The Awesome's.
[11:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's what it sounds like.
[11:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But he got like awesome right next to his dick essentially.
[11:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: When he was like,
[11:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: 19, and it was it was funny at the time.
[11:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Now I'm like, because this whole thing was like, oh, that time every time a girl sees my dictionary, oh, awesome.
[11:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, yeah, that that works from your 19, you're like a dad of four now with like a sensible mini van.
[12:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, get that removed or something.
[12:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I would think so, but
[12:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know if he has a name.
[12:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Maybe he doesn't have a name.
[12:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But if he does, I don't know his question.
[12:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Huh?
[12:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, you see?
[12:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm in enough to get a name.
[12:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know.
[12:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Trump's I'm got a name.
[12:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know.
[12:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We saw a lot of those back a day.
[12:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, but if there's a name, let me know, but he does, and I'm like, oh, interesting.
[12:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm famed Jack coming last and as soon as they come in here, I was like, oh my God.
[12:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, girl, they're not even thinking about you.
[12:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That is the problem.
[12:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Not so, so face as the touch is a look for some people.
[12:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What was it, Kira, who said that?
[12:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I think they mean the mustache on Jack.
[12:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, which it's barely even there, Jack.
[12:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not even like a Bert Reynolds or a Tom Selleck.
[12:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So they do what they do, they separate the girls go their way, the guys go their way, all the girls say they feel attend with their guys.
[13:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Francesca says this chemistry, but she's not saying more.
[13:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Which I still don't know.
[13:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Do you think that sex?
[13:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know.
[13:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think not all the way, but I think they did something to each other's lower bodies.
[13:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know what exactly happened, but something happened between them.
[13:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think.
[13:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, cuz I had no idea.
[13:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're all being coy.
[13:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They have this thing where they do and they go, oh, I was like, guys, I was in order to tell me nothing.
[13:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I'm not sure because Yasmin is all like, oh, I'm trying to remember, but Yasmin barely even wanted to stay in the same bed.
[13:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: with him, but then I mean, I know they set to the same bed, but then they all squeal.
[13:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she said, oh, I'm trying to remember.
[13:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I, I have no idea.
[13:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I can't hear it through the same thing.
[13:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They all squeal, but they I think they had sex.
[13:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They got to make them.
[13:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If they're going to say, you got to say, I don't want to keep, I hate what my shows give me homework.
[13:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what is or what isn't.
[14:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Francesca is.
[14:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I need those men outside, holding at the moon so that we all know that we get it.
[14:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So we can keep track of who
[14:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Brian's reference is to Brazil, where the men immaturely meet a deal that if they do something, they go out to the windows and they how.
[14:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: One of the wives was like, you know, I'm doing that.
[14:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Come back.
[14:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, to trash back here.
[14:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Francesca says she's surprised at Kira.
[14:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: For the guys, they go straight to their first night together.
[14:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Taylor says it's very nice to have that physical intimacy in touch.
[14:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The problem when you use the word intimacy, I don't know what you mean exactly.
[14:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Intimacy isn't always sex.
[14:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I have no idea what he means, but I mean, I think later on they did have sex.
[14:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know.
[14:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, who could say?
[14:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He says like he was very natural.
[14:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He got the green light and that's all he's saying because he's being a gentleman.
[14:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Jack says boys, I think I met my match and he's all Jesus and guess who's all ha ha ha.
[15:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Jesus, Joseph is back.
[15:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Ha ha ha ha, there you go.
[15:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's what it is.
[15:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Jack says it was a late finish and an early start.
[15:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And that's it.
[15:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We don't go around the circle.
[15:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're the only two that they show and that was it.
[15:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They all go into the pool, Jack is in speedos.
[15:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And everyone is so loved up at this point.
[15:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're all hugging and kissing and in the pool that I'm like, the producer's got to be panicking at this point because we can't all be happy.
[15:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What is this?
[15:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What is happening?
[15:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Somebody fight.
[15:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, so the girls are talking.
[15:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If you guys have to remember, right?
[15:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: At the time we're recording, yes, we've watched the whole thing.
[15:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But at the time that we're watching and taking notes, there's certain things we haven't seen yet.
[15:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So we're seeing this chronologically as it's happening.
[15:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, these are my recollection.
[15:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Little today I know this would become a big old thing.
[15:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The girls are talking and Joseph just happens to be there.
[16:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: with Francesca.
[16:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're talking about the whole thing that happened and Joseph, no, Faye, and Jack, and him saying that Kira was his number one.
[16:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He does confirm, like, Mia, I did say that.
[16:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then I had a conversation.
[16:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: With Kira, and it was boring, and then she can, no, no, no, no, then he said, sorry, the whole conversation is just about Kira said that Jack was her number one She continues again that she never said it.
[16:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Their dates were usually surface level and anyways, she doesn't care.
[16:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She doesn't care anyways about anything because she called me off.
[16:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I don't care because she doesn't care about anything
[16:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, when you say that all the time, it means you care.
[16:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[16:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Joseph only says, again, Joseph just happened to be around with the girls.
[16:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He was like, oh, but you seem annoyed.
[16:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And you know, I'm who we jacked.
[17:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I just don't want anyone to think badly of him.
[17:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, I can't be asked.
[17:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So that was it.
[17:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That was the conversation.
[17:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And that was it.
[17:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That was the day he played the head.
[17:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The big confrontation between these two.
[17:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: final showdown Joseph did not bring anything up it came up and all he said was I don't know what he's saying now so Joseph and Kira have a conversation and he was just like oh you know how you know he was pissed off and he just kind of feels like he has to defend his character that's Jack non Joseph feeling like he's just like Jack was just kind of pissed that that was said and he has to defend his character and
[17:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Sorry, this was Joseph and Jack, not Joseph in here because I was like, no, they didn't have a conversation.
[17:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was just a Jack who had a conversation.
[17:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, Jack is all like, I mean, we left on good terms.
[17:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And even if she broke it off with me, why did she go straight to Fay?
[17:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: To say, like, oh, this is this is that because she already broke up with me.
[17:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, well, that's the point.
[17:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So Joseph shares, you know, what happened and that he can copy it being a miscommunication, but Jack is like, what my point still stands is like, why go to Fay and say he's fake if he didn't have any ill intention.
[18:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's like, you know what, I just need to go chat with her.
[18:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So they go chat.
[18:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then I think Kira decides she's going to go the AJ route.
[18:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Instead of saying, like, oh, I don't like what you said.
[18:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I never said that.
[18:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's all like, what what you said AJ was upset.
[18:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It could have been detrimental and he might have put him.
[18:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He did actually say that it put me off him.
[18:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, okay, let's we can go this route because technically what she's saying is not alive right AJ was upset, but that was the leg she was standing on she was more like your a liar.
[18:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I never said that or whatever, but now it's like, oh, you're affecting AJ.
[18:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So then he says, um, I'm not sure why he would be upset.
[18:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We are here to date multiple people, and right, and he doesn't like dating multiple people, but he was forced to do that.
[19:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then here is like, are you sure?
[19:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Are you sure?
[19:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like dating multiple people?
[19:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, you know, she's getting in there.
[19:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's getting in there.
[19:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He says, yes, I'm sure that I don't like eating those people.
[19:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then he says, but the thing is you went to pay and then you told her that she would that I was fake and she's like, I didn't say you were fake.
[19:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just said you were disingenuous.
[19:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Jack was like, disingenuous means fake.
[19:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she was also like, I had been saying that all along.
[19:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Just like, well, that doesn't make any better.
[19:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says, before I even had the thought, there was already talking the launch of you being disingenuous.
[19:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So it wasn't an original thought of mine.
[19:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then she said before I called her connection off and he was she was starting to say before I called the connection off and he says, you think you called it off.
[19:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She said what yeah.
[19:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Honestly, Brian, at this point, I just wanted to move past this, like this is a bad case of miscommunication.
[20:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I can't be wrong.
[20:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because it's true.
[20:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They both came in there wanting to break it off.
[20:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They did so in their own different language and she thinks that he's been spiteful.
[20:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But here, he told the guys that he wanted to break it off.
[20:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She already said that AJ was her guy.
[20:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And so this semantics is just boring.
[20:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I don't care.
[20:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know.
[20:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Sorry.
[20:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm so mad.
[20:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I also don't care, the thing with this whole back and forth, it was legitimately a miscommunication.
[20:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think she was being cagey with her language.
[20:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, you're in my number one, and she goes, yeah, I think we're on the same track.
[20:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That does it mean you're also my number one, but I have,
[20:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: it's not at all hard for me to understand how that's what he took it to me.
[20:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it's like, if he's not your number one, you have to say, listen, I thank you for letting me know that.
[20:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I really appreciate it.
[20:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I still have some connections that I'm exploring.
[20:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't really have a solid number one yet, but I'm happy that you let me know that or something.
[20:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, we've seen that before on the show.
[21:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Or it's like, I love that.
[21:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have a stronger connection.
[21:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it's like, you can do that, but she was, she was kind of wheezing around a little bit.
[21:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And now she's like, how dare you think that I like
[21:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean because the argument could be when he said I'm your number one, she didn't counter with life.
[21:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: For now, AJ is my number one, you weren't clear about that either.
[21:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, at all.
[21:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, you know, anyways, she says like, you know, she was beginning to break up with her and then he did a 180 and tried to slide in there before her, he tells her like, no, the date was she was boring.
[21:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I kept that to myself, I didn't say anything, but I really had a good date with Fay and that switched me over.
[21:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then she hangs on to him calling her boring, which he never said, but that was her education.
[21:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And the confessional, she's like, I have never been called boring, so I struggle to believe that that's true.
[21:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So he ends the conversation.
[21:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, listen, I need to focus on my fiance.
[21:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, is there anything else?
[22:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, like, you need to talk about because I don't know.
[22:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, no, I need to focus on AJ.
[22:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They hug and then that's it.
[22:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then she's just like, I think that he likes to stretch the truth and he's not going to be honest.
[22:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're here.
[22:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We need to stretch your truth.
[22:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Jack says he's losing his cool, but that it left a sour taste in his mouth and honestly he dunched a bullet.
[22:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I was like, okay, so Kira is the villain, yes.
[22:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know that she's the biggest villain we have on this season, she's less of a villain and just more of like an annoying person because I don't think she's like outwardly malicious with this.
[22:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't think she's like out to sabotage people on purpose or whatever, but everything she does just annoys me.
[22:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like focus on your situation.
[22:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why are you and everybody else's business all the damn time?
[22:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like just focus on your situation.
[22:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: to order if she's out if she's out there trying to be malicious because I kind of think she is.
[23:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just think of Venturi.
[23:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She turns that way.
[23:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't think it started off that way.
[23:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think the longer and longer that it went on of like her continuing to hammer on these things.
[23:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She turned toward malicious.
[23:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just think in the beginning she was just like, I don't buy this whole.
[23:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I don't think that she went in there like I'm gonna fuck everything up, but then eventually it seems to have turned that direction.
[23:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I think the thing is like in the grand scheme of villains across the franchise is she's not strong, but this season where everybody's all Kumbaya, yes, she is, you know, the villain.
[23:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, she's not gonna make a top 10 list, but on this season she is for sure the biggest villain in the house.
[23:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, okay.
[23:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: All right, we'll take a break and we'll be right back.
[23:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: All right, and we're back speaking of villainous.
[23:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Cuba and Cuba are having a side.
[23:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, she's looking sister shit of, I mean, yes, she is sister shit.
[24:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The producer's probably told him to have a conversation and she's like, okay, but they have an aside.
[24:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says that she, how are you?
[24:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And this is a, oh, we have really good.
[24:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Really, really good.
[24:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She and AJ are always really good, but they left the party deflated.
[24:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, really, did AJ know anything that was going on?
[24:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I did think he was interesting that we didn't get to see AJ's point of view.
[24:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: On any of that, on any of that conversation, and even moving forward, just the fact that we just never saw AJ being aware that his fiance is like in every single
[24:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: person's business.
[24:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know.
[24:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He never saw that, but I don't know.
[24:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He does a choice.
[24:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then she brings up a Joseph trying to make her uncomfortable that he was staring the conversation towards that.
[24:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's not even involved in this.
[24:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why is he talking about this?
[24:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know, if I didn't have three more episodes to go to, I would have rewant to just watch it again, but I'm like, he's there the conversation.
[24:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, I'm just going to ask Brian.
[24:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I, maybe there was something different.
[25:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Not that I saw, I saw them having a talk.
[25:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I didn't.
[25:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If anyone is steering conversations, it's cure every time she talks to anybody who's not her fiance.
[25:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So like I did not see this during it all.
[25:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Also that's what Joseph gets.
[25:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Just go hang out with the guys.
[25:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Just do the boy for a separation.
[25:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This would never have been a thing at all.
[25:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then all of a sudden from nowhere, she switches to, did you think Fran and Joseph would be how they were together?
[25:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is me, like, what do you guys get there?
[25:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I first thought it was random, but then I remembered, oh, she was Team Shrevenique, because back then in the quarters, they were all hanging out together and I'm like, that was weird.
[25:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And how she doesn't even know, she says she doesn't know if Joseph has been 100% with Fran, about his connection with Shrevenique.
[25:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I quote, I wrote down, is Kira okay?
[25:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's not okay.
[25:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's not okay.
[25:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's not okay.
[25:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because what?
[25:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then Kira claims that she cares about Francesca and that's where she's worried about.
[26:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If she knows and this conversation was stupid to me.
[26:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know about you, but it was stupid and unnecessary.
[26:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's very stupid and I this is going to sound unkind and I accept that.
[26:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think Kira is kind of stupid.
[26:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So like yeah, it's a dumb conversation.
[26:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She seems like a dumb person to me.
[26:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I just, again, I'm going back or I'm leaning towards the fact that there's nothing going on because everyone is happy for now and they're just like, we gotta do something because this is not, you know, I know the brids are polite and everything but even for them, this is too much, first of all we got 14 couples engaged, now everyone is so happy, come on, we still have a show to make so I get it from that perspective, but it was just, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh,
[26:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, okay, so a little bit some pieces of the couples before they move back, Sophie and Taylor.
[26:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's just like I've never dated anyone we tattooed.
[26:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He has a tattoo of girls that he's never slept with on his bum.
[27:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He was just in his 20s and was like just had it in every day and she's like, yeah, he's going to have to take that off and she's just hoping that he's not a party boy anymore because that's insane.
[27:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, they do talk about the chat.
[27:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He says he didn't go well and she's not how he thought that she was and felt like Kira contradicted herself.
[27:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He says the boring thing, but Jack was like, he feels good that Fay has his back even though she's friends with Kira.
[27:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, hey, why are you friends with Kira?
[27:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, I don't know.
[27:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I can't explain it.
[27:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He can't stop talking about her eyes, but her eyes are piercing, and later on with her mom, I'm like, ah, okay, generation.
[27:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Jordan and Yasmin, they're still taking things slow.
[27:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They haven't said I love you yet.
[27:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says she prefers for him to say it first for that reassurance, and at this point, I'm like,
[27:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I'm not looking good these two like you remember last batch.
[27:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I already told you guys like the whole sleep should I sleep in a separate room.
[28:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, we can see peer.
[28:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We can do that.
[28:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That was already like, ah, what's going on, but we'll see friend Jessica and Joseph they're talking about going back to London.
[28:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She does bring up how hey in the past my wait.
[28:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, not in the past my wait fluctuates.
[28:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It goes up.
[28:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It goes down and in the past.
[28:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've had partners who have comments about it and I don't want to feel like I'm working on eggshells, walking on eggshells and I'm just letting you know he's like, listen, as long as you're happy as far as me, I love your body, like you're fine, you're great.
[28:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she says she's comfortable and he does what he does, come here, he asks her for a kiss.
[28:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Get the job done.
[28:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Here on AJ having a massage day and AJ somehow tells her that he loves her.
[28:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says it back but guys it was so awkward.
[28:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was like the dynamic feels like AJ's looking for approval and it's just like, and she's like, I love you too.
[29:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I love you.
[29:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I love you.
[29:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, okay, you man Ryan they have a sound bath dates like it's the same thing.
[29:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's the only language they understand I don't get it they like it.
[29:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I love it.
[29:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what it is that they are lying on.
[29:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They were like they are lying on values But something seems out of sync with them like it's just I'm not buying into them as a couple even though they're speaking the same language their bodies doing the talking on the sound bath something is missing
[29:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, with these two, I don't know if you get the same thing.
[29:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, so with these two, I kind of feel like, um, in the pods, neither one of them expected to find somebody who was like,
[29:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: not a polite way to put this as weird as them.
[29:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We like had this specific set of like quirky sort of beliefs and values.
[29:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then once they found that person and said, okay, I'm gonna make this work.
[29:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like this person is speaking my language, this is the most important to me, not to have to like explain my behavior as at times.
[30:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And like why I think the way that I do,
[30:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I think that sort of short-circuited like their actual connection.
[30:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was like we connect on these things.
[30:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I also don't believe in the moon landing or whatever, so we are good to go on this.
[30:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And so I think now that they're confronted with reality, it might not really be there between them.
[30:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The way that thought it was when it was, let's talk about these specific beliefs that we share.
[30:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, to your point, it's what I call the single issue dating, which is kind of like single issue voting like it's just one thing you don't agree or anything else, but this one thing I'm going to vote based on just one thing so with this dating is just like oh this person believes this and that's the only thing but everything else doesn't align so it's like.
[30:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[30:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Hey, nobody else worked the language.
[30:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I can't believe that somebody else who believes the same thing I do, but everything else is not clicking into play.
[31:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: In fairness, there was only one other person available for either of them because everyone else got engaged.
[31:04] \[UNKNOWN\]: I don't know why.
[31:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's the best I'm going to do anyway.
[31:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He tells her that his goal is to make her safe and she says that she's really attracted to him.
[31:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, so they have one last meet-up before they all head out.
[31:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Listen, this holiday went real quick.
[31:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And you know, there's something else I noticed about at least this batch of episodes or maybe it's the season we get full scenes, right, but there's a lot of I don't know what it's called flash flash flash scenes, we're just like, oh, you brought me coffee the food taste good.
[31:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, stop it the end.
[31:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, we're going dancing the dinner.
[31:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh my god, this is exactly the end.
[31:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So there's a lot of that.
[31:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I don't know if it's because they're happy.
[31:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But there's a lot of that.
[31:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, you're like, go ahead.
[31:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Mouths have the same thing this season.
[31:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're all my notes are like, OK, great.
[31:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're in the kitchen.
[31:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, that was 12 seconds.
[31:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm in the kitchen.
[31:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm just like, yeah, I don't know if it's just like a reflection of our shortening attention spans.
[32:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And like, we have to just flash to a bunch of like quick shit to keep them going.
[32:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We'll be once in the next.
[32:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I was, it's frustrating.
[32:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It is because I'm like, okay, Joseph and Francesca, well, she brought you egg whites in avocado.
[32:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They start talking about, oh, that's it.
[32:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's it.
[32:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's it.
[32:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He was hot.
[32:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's it.
[32:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, okay.
[32:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Scram all that.
[32:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We don't need to talk about that.
[32:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But this is a lot.
[32:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's a lot of flash dates on there.
[32:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, so they meet up with a host because this is their last day and honestly I'm glad I'm glad they didn't drag it and me because nothing happened really but they didn't drag like the holiday and the host are reminding them that they have to tie up all new sense because they will be moving it tomorrow back into London Joseph and Jack have a chat and he says he should probably have a chat with AJ
[32:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: which I think is pointless.
[32:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If AJ is not pulling you aside and you and Kira have put it to bed, just let this thing die.
[32:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We are dragging this whole conversation thing and it doesn't make any sense.
[33:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He tells Joseph that he's in love with Faye, but he's scared to tell her because he doesn't want to scare her off.
[33:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Joseph says the same thing that he thinks he loves Francesca and I don't like their friendship, I gotta say.
[33:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, it's him.
[33:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know?
[33:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Faye asks Kira how she's feeling and she repeats the deflated talk, you know, one's Kira has her talking point.
[33:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's gonna stick by it.
[33:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She was like a dummy, but I
[33:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm glad she said it's all done and her concern is that you know phase so happy and then they cheers and I'm like thank god for that because I could not have this dragging you know again Kira speaks in superlatives because how are you guys doing we are great we're better than ever we're fantastic I've never been happier blah blah so that's how she and AJ are doing
[33:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So Jordan says like he's holding up on saying I love you since it's on her first relationship her first marriage So he doesn't want to you know mess it up for her.
[34:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So if he says I love you he has to feel like he means it Then we see Cuba in Francesca hugging a tree because of course they are hugging and the conversation with Kira comes up
[34:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And, you know, that's going to come up later, but Francesca is the kind of person who feels like she's digesting stuff and is like, okay, okay, heard her, it's seen, seen, she's like that he said that he was open to more and I'm so lost because.
[34:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Technically, what does that even mean?
[34:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If he said that, let's go hypothetically, no, he did say that, but then he said that, but then he said that Francesca was his priority, but then he proposed to her, it won't work with anyone think that he means, I'm gonna be engaged to you, but I'm gonna still be more, because that was not my interpretation.
[34:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was more like, no, I would like to get to know you and I distinctively remember him saying,
[35:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We don't have enough time.
[35:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This happened to late because we talked about it to you and I, about oh, it seems like they started connecting later and they just didn't show that and it felt like it was concurrently that it was happening.
[35:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So where did the lost translation went, when did that happen?
[35:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't, I don't even know that it did.
[35:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just think that Kira's trying to start shit.
[35:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't, I don't think that, like you said, it isn't making any logical sense that I am getting engaged and yes, I wanna have more dates with you.
[35:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's not a thing.
[35:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He wouldn't, he wouldn't say that, out loud, for sure.
[35:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So like none of that makes any sense.
[35:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think it is just Kira,
[35:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: holding a grudge for some reason.
[35:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't understand why.
[35:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But it's being like, well, I, my top priorities making sure this couple does not make it all the way to the altar.
[35:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, why she's doing that.
[35:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm still stopping her question.
[35:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Did you take friend Joseph to be the way that they were?
[35:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because at this point, I'm thinking that here is not happy in her relationship and she'll be damned.
[36:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is the one person that's going to be like the couple that's not working out and she's like looking at people being happy and like, well, you run my friend.
[36:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're going to be my target plus your close to Jack.
[36:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I'm going to hate you for all of that.
[36:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Ryan has a necklace that protects him from electromagnetic frequencies, by the way, of course he does.
[36:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Of course he does.
[36:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Of course he does.
[36:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So Jackson, which he seats to chat with AJ and he tells AJ that he just wanted to chat because he heard that, you know, he was upset.
[36:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm expecting AJ to be like, oh, no, I wasn't upset, but AJ was like, yeah, I was upset.
[36:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, oh, okay.
[36:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he said it's all good.
[36:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's all fine, it's okay, you know, here is still talking about it.
[36:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says she's good, but once again, here is some upset.
[36:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, yeah.
[36:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What are you upset about now?
[36:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But then she pulls out another thread.
[36:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She keeps saying, I'm not ours.
[36:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But she keeps bringing it up again.
[37:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And says, like, you know, he's lying.
[37:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I'm not going to be annoyed.
[37:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like we're just going to have fun.
[37:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're just going to have this.
[37:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But then she reminds us for 100 times that she's glad that, you know, AJ's in her life.
[37:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But it's okay, you know, we're fine.
[37:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm not going to be annoyed at ages like relax, like chill them.
[37:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, yeah, I am.
[37:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know, he said, I was boring.
[37:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, which one is it?
[37:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Are you?
[37:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can't stand her, can't stand her.
[37:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And again, not a horrible villain just annoying ship.
[37:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, it is.
[37:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think she wanted AJ to have more of her back or AJ to be mad or AJ, but she also knows that if she drags this any longer, like this is just going to be like even for her, she's going to be like, this is pointless, but she's very visibly annoyed.
[37:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she just can't help herself from stopping to talk about it.
[37:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They go back to the room and Jack has a whole candle roses set up and he tells Faye that he's in love with her and she tears up to and she says I love you too.
[38:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Fran brings up the Shevani conversation with Joseph because Kira is an agent of chaos.
[38:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Just immediately cops to it.
[38:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, you know what?
[38:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, I said it.
[38:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I fully like kind of expected him to be like, what?
[38:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I would never say that, but I'm so God.
[38:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He was just like, yeah, I mean, I did kind of say it, but it's not like the way that it sounds.
[38:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right.
[38:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was more like we were talking about it.
[38:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We had a good conversation.
[38:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was kind of torn.
[38:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I did tell her that you were my priority and this would have been good, but you know, but you were my person.
[38:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she goes like, yeah, but I can see how it will be awkward from chef's point of view.
[38:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's pro-plex.
[38:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's just like, wait, why or how?
[38:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Is this a thing and why would he be awkward?
[38:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Which is true because remember when they broke up, she went back to the quarters and was like, I'm happy for you guys.
[38:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You guys are Queens.
[38:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Everything was good.
[38:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So where did this come from?
[39:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you had a little chef chat for her.
[39:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, if this was a whole thing, pull a Francesca and be like, hey, I'm happy for you guys, but not for everybody, right?
[39:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But like her and say like, but he said he wanted to get to know me more, but if he was getting to know you more, why are you leaving?
[39:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's so weird.
[39:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, it's all, it's stupid because it's stupid because it's a plot by a dumb person trying to cause chaos.
[39:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, this is not a well-thought-out, like it's not, you know, this is Theresa Drew Dice being calculating.
[39:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like it's not going to work.
[39:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're trying stuff, you're not good at this.
[39:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's what he, France has as long as he's being honest with her, then there's nothing to worry about.
[39:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's like, you know, what I appreciate that, you know, you brought it up, like, you know, I'm glad that, you know, when not not glad, but I'm glad that Kira told you.
[39:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, no, Kira didn't tell me.
[39:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He goes, what?
[39:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Kira didn't tell me.
[39:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then he was like, yes, Kira said it to Cuba, but not to me.
[39:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But then Cuba brought it to me.
[39:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But we've not had a direct conversation.
[39:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Joseph is like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
[40:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Mmm, like grapevine.
[40:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Hey, that's what we're going to do.
[40:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Joseph is like, okay, that's weird.
[40:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I don't think I like here.
[40:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And again, Brits, they're trying to keep it cute.
[40:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So they're all like, uh-huh, uh-huh.
[40:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And friend is like, mm-hmm.
[40:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So they're saying a lot without saying a lot, like, yo, she's the problem.
[40:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But yeah, so that was it.
[40:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Before they go to London, so I'll take a break and come back to talk about their move to London.
[40:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, so, Brandon Joseph, he wants to talk to her dad.
[40:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It asks for his blessing.
[40:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's giving him like the rules.
[40:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, you know, it's going to be good, but please don't swear.
[40:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, I think Joseph knows better.
[40:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I don't mean actually you think like, you know, Joseph swears.
[40:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I will say one thing.
[40:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Joseph and Stephanie, part of the connection was their faith, right?
[40:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We have not had a conversation with Joseph and Francesca.
[40:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know where she lies on the fake spectrum and where she stands on that.
[40:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They haven't shown a conversation.
[41:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I'm interested to know where she stands on that.
[41:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I also don't know, and this, this is a thing that they do on a lot of reality shows where they give you a reason to think there's going to be a conflict that doesn't really happen.
[41:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We saw Torian Felipe on maps have their religion thing.
[41:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you remember when we first met Michelle on maps, she was like, I'm a, I'm a Disney adult.
[41:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's like the most important thing in my world.
[41:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We never saw it again.
[41:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I didn't give up stuff and it just never comes back up.
[41:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I don't know why we don't know about her faith, unless he just hasn't brought it up to her.
[41:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't really don't know.
[41:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, he said it was very important to him even before the video he prayed, you know, so I don't know, I'm just curious to know what it is for them because I mean seeing them now outside the pods they seem to you know be getting along they seem to be inviting each other so it's just something like if that's important to him.
[41:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, it would be interesting to see, and also, you know, we're going to go through all this, but we don't see her with his family.
[42:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was looking forward to that.
[42:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I don't know if that's going to be in the next episode, like during the weddings or his, is his family going to show up, but I don't know why we didn't get to see his family, you know.
[42:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, he said we get like a, I think it's like a selfie diary cam, you know, her back was hurting.
[42:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So he ran her a bath and, you know, got her candles and all that stuff.
[42:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So that was cute.
[42:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So then the girls have a night in at Sophie's apartment.
[42:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Sophie's apartment.
[42:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And they come in and they can't stop gushing about Jack and then I peeped Cuba just looking at Kira.
[42:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just see what she's thinking about that.
[42:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then Fran reveals that they both said, I love you and brings up Kira.
[42:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: the whole thing that happened.
[42:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She didn't answer why she wasn't direct and instead moves to like, oh Joseph was driving the conversation and she feels like people were isolating her because of the drama.
[43:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, you know, I never, I don't want to dismiss what she's saying, but we don't see it.
[43:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's so left-filled.
[43:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, and then she keeps moving the goalpost because if Fran is saying things like,
[43:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You didn't tell me anything, instead you told Cuba, but why didn't you say that?
[43:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And now we're bringing up another point where it's like, she felt isolated because of the drama, how we isolated?
[43:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You were with the girls.
[43:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, Fran says, well, what did she say?
[43:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, oh, that he was open.
[43:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, ah, that's all I know, actually.
[43:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Really?
[43:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Just that one line.
[43:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh my god.
[43:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's what we're doing.
[43:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What we're doing?
[43:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Ha ha.
[43:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Making all this out of one line for real.
[43:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Ugh.
[43:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So a friend is like, he hasn't said anything bad about you.
[43:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like he really doesn't like drama and all that stuff.
[43:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So it wasn't like he said anything for anyone to isolate you because she forgets that Joseph didn't even know this was a thing.
[43:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because when they're brought up, he's like, wait, what?
[44:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, what happens?
[44:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why would he be isolating you anyways?
[44:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Maybe because he thinks that the jack drama, he don't care.
[44:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like it's just when you brought it up, we'll talk about it.
[44:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But outside of that, I have better things to do with my time.
[44:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But, you know, Fran Apologize.
[44:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I go and if you felt like we isolated you, like I'm sorry, it wasn't intention.
[44:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, ugh, I wish you didn't apologize, but whatever.
[44:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Sure, sir.
[44:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Cuba says she's like a 7.58.
[44:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Ryan is not around, and she needs more romance to trust what he said in the pod.
[44:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Guys, we're gonna get to the whole Ryan thing.
[44:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is the whole thing when they have all these group things, but the whole Ryan thing annoys me, and we'll talk about it.
[44:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm going to.
[44:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yasmin says things are well, but hearing everyone else, she feels like she should be feeling the same way that they feel.
[44:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But she doesn't feel that way.
[44:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says she step back since the pods because she doesn't know how he feels about her.
[44:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: For example, like he hasn't bought her flowers and she wants her partner to be obsessed with her.
[44:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Any thoughts?
[45:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, I get it.
[45:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Number one, comparison is a thief of joy.
[45:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Don't compare yourself to what other couples are doing where they're at.
[45:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is, this is my biggest beef when we have dating shows and there's group scenes together.
[45:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because automatically you're comparing yourself to every other couple, are we where they are, are we in the lead, are we lagging behind about how I feel this
[45:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I get where she's coming from.
[45:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I am also somebody that once I'm part going to be obsessed with me, it feels good.
[45:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And considering the insecurities that she's had over her vitilego, makes even more sense that she really wants that reassurance and that security that this dude is crazy about her and like head over heels.
[45:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And when you see it from all the other women talking about what their men are doing and yours is not, I get how that triggers her
[45:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, doesn't make it a good thing.
[46:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't do that, but I understand how it happened.
[46:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I mean, and this is what I've said, even with masks where people are coming from like I've never had a relationship into going into, um, marriage.
[46:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm just not a fan of it.
[46:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just think like dating is not a guarantee or anything, but dating is just like an experience that
[46:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: working it out within a marriage is a lot of pressure.
[46:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like you're already figuring yourself out even when you dated, but when you didn't date, when it's just different circumstances, it's just a lot.
[46:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And you can see in Yasmin that she has not stepped into her full self yet.
[46:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's just a lot that she needs to
[46:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: work out before she jumps into her marriage.
[46:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So this is all too much.
[46:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And this all stems from being in.
[46:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, was it Faye Faye had like, oh, maybe it was Faye's apartment.
[46:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know who the apartment was, whoever had like a big bouquet of flowers.
[46:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And that just said her off.
[46:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she said, oh, I sure did.
[46:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, flowers.
[47:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So we're doing flowers now.
[47:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, so and and also in the way everyone just talks about her it's the same way you didn't watch love island that they were treating there was a guy that was in love island to see the they kept you know talking to him like he was a puppy and I didn't like that like it's like he also had like
[47:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He had a disability was hard of hearing and every time they were like, oh, go, go in there.
[47:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, you talk to a girl.
[47:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, you're so this so Francis all this nice things about her was like, you're sweet soul.
[47:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You just need to be honest.
[47:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And we see that over and over.
[47:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're a diamond or you're great or you're this and they're reassuring her.
[47:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Not that she's not any of those things.
[47:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But it's almost like you can tell like these people are like, there's just more that she needs is like they're sharing her on to do that.
[47:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just
[47:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: A little bit of infantilizing, I want to say, for me, I don't know if anyone else thinks that, but I feel like there's a little bit of that.
[47:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I just feel like there's a lot of for her to step into her own, you know, for that, you know, in that regard.
[47:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But we'll talk about hers there.
[48:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But yes, friend tells her you're a sweet soul, you just need to be honest, you need to let him know.
[48:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But playing devil's advocate, right?
[48:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We've heard her say a lot that she wants him to reassure her.
[48:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But on her end, she has, I'm going at a slow pace.
[48:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, I'm guarded.
[48:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, I need to, you know, see where that's going.
[48:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I want to clarify, I don't mean sex guys.
[48:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't mean, like, she should jump in and have sex with him or anything.
[48:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But it feels like what she's giving is a little bit of guarded as well.
[48:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So how?
[48:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yep.
[48:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: can he reassure her when maybe there's a wall between them that maybe she doesn't even know that she's doing that or is her guardedness because of him which i'm saying it's not because all she says it's like oh my god he's so nice he's so great he makes me feel comfortable so i don't know that's my devil's advocate you know
[48:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's tough.
[48:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, they're the end of tough spot.
[48:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't.
[48:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't think that she was ready for this show.
[48:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[48:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think that she had some more work to do.
[48:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I don't think that he understands how she's feeling.
[49:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't think that she's, you know, she tells him eventually we'll talk about it.
[49:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But like, I don't think that he's able to like intuit her concerns and how, I don't know of worries the right word.
[49:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's a lot more for her, because everything is first time, everything is pressure, and it's not like she's going through it on her own.
[49:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's going through it and comparing it to other people's, which is even more pressure on there, and then they're happy.
[49:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not like a season where someone's not happy.
[49:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're all like, oh my God, it's the best.
[49:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is like, yeah, I don't feel whatever this will be like, okay.
[49:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right, so the boys Joseph is happy as they all are and AJ says he's a morning person and She told him that he can talk to her until she has her coffee and he thought she was joking, but she was not joking So he tries to get the coffee and I was like this does not sound like a loving relationship, but okay
[50:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Joseph says he wants his family to sign off on them to get the blessing.
[50:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Taylor says their main gripe is like location because she lives in Manchester.
[50:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The camera was lingering a little bit too long and Jordan, but you know, which is a go with that.
[50:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Jordan says,
[50:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: When they first got their phones back, they had a whole thing, and she just went straight to show me your DMs.
[50:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, I would have seen your DM, who is this person, and he kind of felt like it was an invasion of privacy, and it was like, are you going to trust me in the future?
[50:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And what were your thoughts on that whole Instagram DM thing?
[50:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't like it in general.
[50:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have never asked or wanted to see my wife's messages and texts, and all that she's never asked me.
[50:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: my my overall feeling is by the time you feel the need to like go through your partners phone and like check their messages the trust is already dead at that point and it's so difficult to come back from that even if you don't see anything because what I've seen many a time is I didn't find anything which means you're deleting messages and it's like okay all right this is like Rebecca is yet.
[51:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You want to find evidence, you want to find evidence, things in something bad.
[51:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And so all you do is look for evidence, and that basically becomes your whole relationship, is you being convinced he's doing you dirty and him just being like, what am I supposed to do?
[51:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I don't, they're not there yet, but I would hate this.
[51:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, don't, especially at the start of a relationship, you're laying a bad foundation.
[51:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think if it was maybe way down like even at all like you said that the fact that you have to look through it like why is that you a mean source of the assurance.
[51:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm sure you just put your phone back.
[51:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You just made it to her.
[51:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm with you.
[51:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've never had to look through anything.
[51:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know what the point of reading you're crying?
[51:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Some people may hear that and say, well, that's too big.
[51:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You should look at me.
[52:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think it's a generational thing.
[52:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, I feel like people I know are just like they're always Oh my god.
[52:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[52:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But we have each other's passwords.
[52:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I've not had the exact, like, that's the thing.
[52:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If I wanted to, I could.
[52:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I just, I'm with you.
[52:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, if you, what is making you want to look at it?
[52:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[52:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You'll come out.
[52:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If there's anything at all, it will.
[52:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, you know, I don't know.
[52:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But that's just my thoughts.
[52:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But again, I'm just saying, someone out there will come to the call.
[52:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's stupid.
[52:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But they just- They're just- Yeah, both in Sheed it on.
[52:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's funny, but you know what you guys think about that though, because I'm just like, what, what, what are you getting at, I don't know, but um, so you just get out, you're trying to build your foundation, you just moved in together and your person show me your DMs, who is right.
[52:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It is like the history of this show is not great.
[53:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, Ellie wasn't even on a baby's ex the key.
[53:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She had to bring his key.
[53:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Is that what it was?
[53:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't get away.
[53:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I get it, like, Yeah.
[53:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Sure.
[53:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I didn't know she was.
[53:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just feel like maybe easy to do.
[53:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They just sat on the couch.
[53:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, Get in there.
[53:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Show me your phone.
[53:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I want to see you.
[53:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Look into the TV.
[53:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: In there.
[53:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So he says he wants to get married once.
[53:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're back to Jordan and Taylor asked, but is there enough time for you to get there to that point and he's like, I don't know.
[53:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And we'll see.
[53:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm Frances Joseph about the cure thing and I'm just like, I just, we cannot have debrief about cure for every interaction that we have.
[53:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I am Frances Joseph did not bring you up at the, at the boys meet up for AJT here that his woman is a troublemaker.
[54:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Again, I would have, if it's edited.
[54:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I wouldn't let with that.
[54:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Joseph can't believe that he was a human drama like he's just like the Britain so he's so reserved because he's like why, but okay.
[54:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So they're meeting Francesca's family and they're meeting her parents and her sister her mom thinks that Joseph looks like Michael Jordan.
[54:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't think I saw it.
[54:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, I don't think I saw it, but then you can take a look at the beard if you take away the hair.
[54:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's gotten it before.
[54:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Take where the beard.
[54:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Shave his head, put him in a bull's jersey, get him a cigar, like, okay, I can't see.
[54:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You put him in a costume, put him in a pipe, put him in a pipe, and he's hand.
[54:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[54:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's just tall and dark skinned, like, that's, that's where the bull's skin is for me.
[54:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That was great.
[54:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're saying to keep him alive, you wanted that made, I just, you know, you're, you're talking about that.
[54:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Hey, what does that mean?
[55:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Just because he's dead.
[55:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, man.
[55:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, yeah.
[55:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I, well, I should have said, move time.
[55:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They did not let him.
[55:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: A new bull.
[55:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, why, why are you sticking to just the African countries, Brian?
[55:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, we, we, what, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, a black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black
[55:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, so this is where he mentions that his mom was from, oh, I forget, but that his dad was born in Nigeria.
[55:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I don't know if his mom is Nigerian and was just born there or if she's a black Brit from somewhere else.
[55:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I just found that interesting that he said she was born here and then that was one, and then considering that we never met any of his family.
[55:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So we have no idea.
[55:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's the way her mom and her sister look alike for me.
[56:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They look like so much.
[56:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They do.
[56:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, everyone seems shocked that the wedding is in a month and I'm like guys, it's season three or series three As they say it over there.
[56:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What show do you think this is like why are we should do these people not prep their family?
[56:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I honestly think some people don't and I don't understand that I talked to my mom on the phone most days of the week I can't imagine having this whole thing go down and like not tell her what I'm doing and then Papa have fiancee now Very confused by the lack of communication No, I gotta say it is pretty annoying when they're just like what the wedding is so soon What do you think you're filming for dining and dating?
[56:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know
[56:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So they talk to Francesca alone and they ask her, so are you serious about this?
[56:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know why this made me laugh.
[56:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It really just made me laugh when it looks like we used serious about this.
[56:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you're doing this for real?
[56:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Is that a prank?
[56:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Not a hilarious prank?
[57:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then her dad is like, so you get married, you do all that, and then you both come back here.
[57:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, because guys, they both live at home.
[57:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So just a little bit of his mom issues here, and that was like, so you're coming back.
[57:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And friends, like, yeah, until we kind of figured it out, and he's goes, uh-huh.
[57:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Thank you all already for this, but you know, surprising.
[57:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So at the beginning, they said it was 29 days to go at the beginning.
[57:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think that was when they were still in Ibiza.
[57:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But here's just like the wedding isn't a month.
[57:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I'm like, are we approximating or is there a timeline thing?
[57:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's probably like three weeks in a day, something like that.
[57:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So in a way, the parents are not buying it.
[57:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're just like, I don't think y'all are ready.
[57:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't think y'all are thought about it.
[57:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what y'all are doing, but you don't even have a place to stay.
[57:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You don't know where you're gonna stay.
[57:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But that is what they should be talking about.
[57:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why are they coming back home?
[57:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why are they not talking about where's our home base?
[58:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Going to be.
[58:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, the next morning, they talk about the visit, how did he go just if it's like, yeah, it was interesting, like I had nerves because your dad was quiet.
[58:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I, my nerves weren't even higher.
[58:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I didn't know what he was thinking which I'm surprised.
[58:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He didn't pull him aside and ask for his blessing.
[58:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just, I thought that was what he said when it.
[58:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think I think he probably would have.
[58:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's like, oh, the vibe is way off.
[58:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So he's going to say no if I ask you.
[58:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: that's true.
[58:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He read the room.
[58:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says like they like him, like they really actually really like them.
[58:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The problem is like they just don't know about the marriage part that is too soon and if they need to do that.
[58:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They both agree that the blessing would mean a lot to them.
[58:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So this is where she brings like the egg whites and avocado and it must be good.
[58:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He clearly cleans his plate.
[58:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's actually really good.
[58:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says him holding his own makes her love him even more and you know what's
[59:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm going to get free with this.
[59:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've ruined this for everyone.
[59:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Now every time you see them in this day, come here, you just know Jesus coming.
[59:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So Kira shares with Sophie and Fay.
[59:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, we're now at the party.
[59:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So Fay has not got birthday party and I did my best to put this where whatever fits, but Fay has a birthday party.
[59:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's impossible.
[59:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like at a club or a lounge or somewhere, nightlife, whatever that means to you, and they're all out there.
[59:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So Kira is talking with Sophie and Faith, and yeah, Brian, it is malicious from nowhere.
[59:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No one's talking about anything.
[59:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She just builds up and is like, you know, I don't know this Shevani, Yadayada and they're like, what?
[59:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What did she say?
[59:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She goes, oh no, I've said too much.
[59:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I will let her speak when she gets here.
[59:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like,
[59:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, you're not okay.
[59:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, this is her mission in life now.
[1:00:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She has to produce this bet because, again, I understand.
[1:00:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're setting it up because she's going to be here.
[1:00:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So she's going to be walks in and, you know, friend is in the bathroom and she's with Cuba and I think she's saying like, all this whole thing, like, it's embarrassing for her and my girl.
[1:00:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You don't need to be embarrassed about anything.
[1:00:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I wish I could, I understand her not wanting to be stupid and just believing what Joseph is saying, but you have nothing to be worried about.
[1:00:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like this is just insane.
[1:00:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's just not enough drama that this is what they're hanging their coat on to make drama about.
[1:00:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No.
[1:00:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No.
[1:00:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, Chef and Joseph go, you can see how stressed Joseph was with Chef and he walks in, but they go chat and Joseph finds out that she met up with Kira and I'm like, oh God, that's true.
[1:00:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They don't know that Kira and Cuba and all that, you know, have a lunch and all that kind of stuff.
[1:00:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, which is interesting?
[1:00:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Who have the lunch?
[1:00:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Was it just Kira and Chef and Eve?
[1:00:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think so.
[1:00:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, and Yasmin?
[1:00:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Was Yasmin there too?
[1:00:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She might have been there too.
[1:01:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She might have been there because I'm like, if she was there, yes, me.
[1:01:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why didn't she tell Dominique?
[1:01:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But that's a whole other thing.
[1:01:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Joseph is so confused.
[1:01:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And they were talking about the whole spend more time, have more time.
[1:01:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Joseph says, please bring Kira over.
[1:01:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And as they're saying that, I'm like, French, you're the main bread over, too, because France is looking at them like, why is Kira?
[1:01:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This party is so lame.
[1:01:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're having pizza.
[1:01:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Not even lame.
[1:01:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Aderves or appetizers or anything.
[1:01:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I don't mind, I don't mind a pizza party, it has to be great pizza.
[1:01:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm a Chicago one, so I'm fine with that, but it needs to be like quality pizza.
[1:01:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, they're too well dressed to be having like sliced pizza slices over there.
[1:01:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm sorry, that that that that's going to be all easy.
[1:01:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, like good food on there, you know, yeah, it didn't even look like a sports bar or anything.
[1:01:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So please, they should have had better food on there.
[1:01:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But anyway, Frantic's the initiative and she walks over there and she's like, I am going over there.
[1:01:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm going to find out what's going on.
[1:02:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Joseph says exactly what it is that he said and then, you know, she's dragging it.
[1:02:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, I don't know if I should say all that and she's up.
[1:02:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She pisses me off so much.
[1:02:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, let's, I don't, I don't want to say what he said to me in front of you.
[1:02:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You would be really devastated.
[1:02:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not going to say anything, miss me with that.
[1:02:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm sitting right here saying I want to know like tell me and he's also saying yeah, go ahead and tell her you can't then play the, I don't like it's too much.
[1:02:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's just too dark.
[1:02:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah?
[1:02:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because what's the point?
[1:02:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If we're ready at this point, where we're going back and forth and what the conversation is, whatever damage you think is going to be done has already been done, so just go ahead and see it.
[1:02:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then all of a sudden, she just does a switch a route.
[1:02:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, you know what?
[1:02:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm feeling attacked.
[1:02:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, what?
[1:02:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: what is happening right now.
[1:02:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh my god, this was too much right now.
[1:02:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And Kudos to Fran for being like, well, when it was y'all tuned as him, was he under attack?
[1:03:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, I'm just like, okay, would you can't we can see what you want to do is under attack.
[1:03:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Guys, they were speaking in calm tones.
[1:03:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There was no yelling.
[1:03:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There was no anything like you could even say, oh, you were yelling or it was not a toss and error.
[1:03:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It wasn't even devil level like anything or anything.
[1:03:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, they were talking calmly and she was like, I'm feeling attacked.
[1:03:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But friend is just like, no, we're saying say it.
[1:03:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're dragging it.
[1:03:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're like, oh, I don't want at this point here.
[1:03:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's just sitting there.
[1:03:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know why she's there.
[1:03:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then friend stands up and it's like, honestly, you came here to drop a bomb.
[1:03:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You claim you're not trying to cross problems, but you are.
[1:03:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That this whole conversation is dumb.
[1:03:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And this whole conversation was unnecessary.
[1:03:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, that's true.
[1:03:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's right.
[1:03:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, she's out here saying things like, oh, you just sound but hurt.
[1:03:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And oh, I hope that you're connection is stronger.
[1:03:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it's point like, I just want you to be passive-aggressive.
[1:03:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're saying all these things.
[1:03:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And you're like, oh, no, I didn't come here to do that, but you know what, Brian, we should have known.
[1:03:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If Kira is your closest friend, then we should have known that you have a problem.
[1:04:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: one also again yet the fact that she's in a room with 27 other engaged people so it's like everybody I know that's here is in wetted bliss and there's one dude here who I don't want to be with not the only other single person in the room like I'm sure she's just like I'm irritated by all of this and yeah this was a bad moment for chef top tomato this was a really unfortunate it just clicked to me that if
[1:04:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: only to be getting engaged.
[1:04:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We know for sure she's one of them.
[1:04:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's one of them.
[1:04:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We don't know who the guy is but for sure she's one of them.
[1:04:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What a sad sack, what a bummer.
[1:04:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She was so close, she was so close.
[1:04:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I think also that she is probably in the same camp as Kira, where it's like, I've never been rejected, like how I be the one, like as hot as I am, like why would I be the one that's rejected?
[1:04:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I think she's not taking it well.
[1:04:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like her words are saying, I'm good, but her actions are not saying that she was good.
[1:05:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: because she goes as a confessional and is all like making all these weird comments like who wants to do that?
[1:05:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Who wants that?
[1:05:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like what the fuck?
[1:05:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's a lot.
[1:05:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, oh, no, she's she's spinning out.
[1:05:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, so Joseph says that Kira should never speak to them again, like he never wants to.
[1:05:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And Joseph is clearly shook by it.
[1:05:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Friends says that she feels like a fool.
[1:05:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is when they're back home in the apartment.
[1:05:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And friend is like she feels like a fool.
[1:05:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But you know, she will always have his back in public, but they need to be on the same page and united.
[1:05:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I thought they were.
[1:05:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They were.
[1:05:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think what happened here is after that whole thing went down, she's replaying parts of it in her head and now she's like maybe there is something to this maybe he is pulling the wool over my eyes.
[1:05:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't think he is, but like maybe there's something going on they just injected enough doubt in her.
[1:05:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think to throw her off a little bit.
[1:05:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I can't wait for the reunion.
[1:05:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I hope they do rule the tapes.
[1:05:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I hate her reunion where we don't rule the tape, but we really need to, because it doesn't make any sense.
[1:06:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She tells him that it won't be the first time that they will receive backlash, and she will always have his back, but they just need to make sure they're there.
[1:06:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then she goes, I love you.
[1:06:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He goes, I love you too.
[1:06:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he needs to come here.
[1:06:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But, you know, thank you.
[1:06:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She went there.
[1:06:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There you go.
[1:06:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm loving and response.
[1:06:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She just knew.
[1:06:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's right.
[1:06:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She heard the bell, her mouse heard the water.
[1:06:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, so Faye and Jack, when they move in, I kind of just say they're apartment.
[1:06:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The view is insane.
[1:06:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They are in London proper and it's nice.
[1:06:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They get their phones back, introductions are made to their family.
[1:06:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They go visit, well, through FaceTime, his mom.
[1:06:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They go visit Jack's family on honesty that went really well and everything, you know, was good with them.
[1:06:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then we have phase birthday parties.
[1:06:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So he's talking about meeting her parents and how they're meeting her in tomorrow And he's a little nervous, but he just wants to get out the way and then a parents walk in So they probably flew in from somewhere the night before and producers are like, ah Just bring him in and why not and so you come in and then also some parts call people walk in also It was like men I think it was two men Come in, but if they're also the end gate and let's one of them is the on-engage
[1:07:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Where are the partners?
[1:07:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They should have walked in with them, too.
[1:07:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're right.
[1:07:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Maybe they've already broken up.
[1:07:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But there's a point.
[1:07:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It didn't get to go to IB, but I'm like, well, you know what, never mind?
[1:07:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, we're not giving you part of our lives.
[1:07:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We didn't get a rotation.
[1:07:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think something that'll be interesting is for producers to let us know why they chose the people.
[1:07:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:07:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know, to go with what they see.
[1:07:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because they're taking a gamble, too.
[1:07:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You don't know what they're going to give you.
[1:07:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm there.
[1:07:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So we'll see.
[1:07:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, at the end of the night, everything went well with her family.
[1:07:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're so excited.
[1:07:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're buzzing.
[1:07:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Can't wait to see that.
[1:07:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: All the other drama is happening, but not with them.
[1:07:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But then phase asking him like, are you drunk?
[1:07:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like what's going on?
[1:07:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's like, oh, don't bring the mood down.
[1:08:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Don't ask me questions like that.
[1:08:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That we're fine.
[1:08:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then we get a six hours later.
[1:08:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I got it.
[1:08:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh my god.
[1:08:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, who is this about?
[1:08:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: My heart was like, it can't be friend and Joseph, right?
[1:08:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because you guys, I'm doing it as best as I can.
[1:08:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But the order in which it was was like, it's impossible.
[1:08:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They screwed us.
[1:08:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, we saw friend and Joseph.
[1:08:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then we saw them and I'm like, who is this couple about we know is not the rest.
[1:08:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Nothing else is going on with all the other couples.
[1:08:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So we find out that it was fair.
[1:08:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's leaving a voicemail like Jack.
[1:08:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know where you are like, call me back.
[1:08:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I can't reach you.
[1:08:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it's going straight to voicemail.
[1:08:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then the next morning we see that Jack is back.
[1:08:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She wants to know where he was and it is a whole new Jack because this man disappeared.
[1:08:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's claiming that he went for a walk but then he was like two hours away and then he's find my friends was disconnected.
[1:08:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes.
[1:08:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I know.
[1:08:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Look, man.
[1:08:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I enjoy a walk as much as anybody else.
[1:08:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have never done a four hour urban walk.
[1:09:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's like if you're two hours, were you going to get back home?
[1:09:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you got to walk back to more hours?
[1:09:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Absolutely not.
[1:09:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, he says that he's done it before and she agreed that you did.
[1:09:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know.
[1:09:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, he seems to be like an athlete at the, I don't know, for the gym.
[1:09:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's just up every morning.
[1:09:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah,
[1:09:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, here's where I got confused.
[1:09:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what to make of this.
[1:09:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like leaving is weird.
[1:09:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what triggered him.
[1:09:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It went well with the family.
[1:09:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know if that made it so real for him.
[1:09:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That he just kind of lost it.
[1:09:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But then she's like, she's very particular about the fine life friends.
[1:09:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like why would you take that off?
[1:09:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And there's a lot of things you're saying like this is what is upsetting me the most.
[1:09:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I am 30.
[1:09:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I am going for a walk and I just think to drop you a message I'm like what in the gaslighting hell is this because no what nope a couple things okay?
[1:09:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I go for a walk often in the mornings, my wife in the summertime, when she's not working, she's not up before eight in the morning.
[1:10:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I leave it like six.
[1:10:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm going to be home before she gets up.
[1:10:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I will still text her and say, hi, I'm going for a walk.
[1:10:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, Brian, but here's the thing.
[1:10:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I understand, but the reason why I never make this comparisons is like these people just met each other.
[1:10:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, I know, but it's like common common decency like what's in the way that I beat you it is right because we've seen this is the same thing we can't let I'm living the house.
[1:10:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm not going to see me.
[1:10:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, you should common sense dictates that you should just say, even if it's your roommate or whoever like hey, I'm do whatever, but the reason why I only give grace for this is like these people I try to remember they've just met.
[1:10:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: to what is it two weeks ago?
[1:10:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Gender is in the pot or whatever.
[1:10:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not even up to two weeks, give her a take.
[1:10:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So sometimes, maybe it's just like, okay, he's clearly going through something.
[1:10:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Something is going on, this is how he deals with it.
[1:10:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just go, I don't want to talk to anybody.
[1:10:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I shut down my phone, I don't want to talk to whatever.
[1:10:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I don't, I'm outing myself.
[1:11:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't have an iPhone.
[1:11:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But is it when you turn off your phone, does this shut off you'll find my friends?
[1:11:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have an answer for this.
[1:11:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I also, I'm a Samsung person, I don't fucking know.
[1:11:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I asked my wife, I asked my wife, I checked in with her, basically what happens is if your phone is off and you go to like, find my friends, find my iPhone or whatever, it'll show the last location that it was before it turned off and then instead of it being a little green circle, it's a little red circle.
[1:11:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So that means like the phone was here, it is no longer on.
[1:11:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: To have it not show the person at all, you have to go into the app and say like,
[1:11:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: unfriend this person essentially so that when they search me, they cannot find me.
[1:11:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So phone it off.
[1:11:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's not.
[1:11:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No.
[1:11:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, because the whole win if it is like if your phone is off and dead, you can use somebody's phone to find your dead phone.
[1:11:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, yeah, no, it's it for sure he, he proactively did this.
[1:11:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know why.
[1:11:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's the thing that's for me is like that and she's right to harp on that find my friends thing because you purposely didn't want her to know where you were.
[1:12:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I want to
[1:12:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I want to say it's like, okay, he was really dealing with whatever was he was dealing with and really didn't want to talk to anyone and disconnected.
[1:12:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But you can't do that and say you're ready for marriage.
[1:12:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like you're gonna have to think about it.
[1:12:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, I'm, and again, I'm not saying like, you're wrong, but I'm like, you should text a person, you should let them know.
[1:12:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But if it's not occurring to you, the question is why, why doesn't it occur to you?
[1:12:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So what was he going through?
[1:12:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't think we gave enough time to,
[1:12:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: For him to or he wasn't being forthcoming about what was his mindset?
[1:12:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What was the thing that was so upsetting that you had to have a how many hour walk that you had to remove heard that because the crux of it is a he didn't want to be in communication with her That is a giving why yeah
[1:12:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, I mean, number one, probably pretty drunk still when he left, so like, I don't think he had sobered up yet.
[1:12:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, worst case scenario, he's out here trying to get some strange, like clear across town.
[1:13:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That that is unfortunately the most logical explanation for this set of behaviors.
[1:13:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, OPP, you're trying to go hook up with somebody else, basically.
[1:13:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: When you have a partner trying to go hook up with somebody else, and so I'm wondering, if that's it unfortunately makes the most logical sense that that's what happened here, because
[1:13:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're already drunk.
[1:13:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He said, I think you told her parents in a minute here, that he slept like 30 minutes.
[1:13:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you were on the couch for a half hour, up in like left and didn't say anything and took her off of being able to find you.
[1:13:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't have a better explanation for what you were doing, man.
[1:13:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, you know, the other thing is like, we're going through all this hypotheticals and then some people already watched the reunion that may have been answered.
[1:13:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's true.
[1:13:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Whatever we're saying,
[1:14:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We are in the dark.
[1:14:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We don't know what happened.
[1:14:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We have no idea.
[1:14:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's just really tough.
[1:14:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like something.
[1:14:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There is fishy.
[1:14:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just can't tell what is or isn't.
[1:14:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I don't know enough of Jack to be like, Oh, this is this or this is that.
[1:14:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But something is something right.
[1:14:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like check your phone and check your phone and then find my friends and suddenly back and I'm like stop it like just Just say you couldn't If I were these people, I will always have like a signal to be like I would tell you but off-camera Just to end the conversation and to figure that out because it was very much giving I'm picking up fight now
[1:14:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because now he's like saying like, well, it's giving the you don't trust me.
[1:14:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And if there's a lack of trust, can we really do this?
[1:14:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What can I do?
[1:14:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, dude, you disappeared without telling her.
[1:14:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I can't even teach her.
[1:14:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She couldn't find you.
[1:14:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You didn't text her.
[1:14:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And on top of everything else, you removed her from find my friends.
[1:14:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like that is valid enough.
[1:14:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know, it's not a whole lack of trust thing.
[1:15:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is unfair, I get that, but my thought process is always, what are those in emergency?
[1:15:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What if a car hit me?
[1:15:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What if our place was on fire?
[1:15:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I wasn't able to reach you.
[1:15:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So like, yeah, none of those things happened.
[1:15:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I get that.
[1:15:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But accidents do happen every day.
[1:15:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There's emergencies that happen.
[1:15:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And having a partner who goes out of their way to make sure that you cannot reach them, is worrisome, because I'm gonna happen to her.
[1:15:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:15:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's with her parents alone.
[1:15:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She shares what happened.
[1:15:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mom asked about at the party.
[1:15:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like at the party, the mom did ask him, what do you do?
[1:15:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it was like, oh, I do this a little bit of that.
[1:15:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, shag, this is this.
[1:15:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So then she asked again.
[1:15:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it was like, so when you guys move to London, what are you going to do?
[1:15:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She goes sales.
[1:15:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She goes selling what?
[1:15:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Ha ha ha ha.
[1:15:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Crack rocks, man.
[1:15:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's business in there.
[1:15:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, I don't really know, but I just feel like sales would be a good fit.
[1:15:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So they go back to the find my friend thing and they have a conversation.
[1:16:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's talking about how like, the same thing you just said earlier, Brian, like it's just like going through phones at that point.
[1:16:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like a deal breaker for me.
[1:16:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If you go through phones, if you're going in searching messages, the trust has already been broken.
[1:16:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're not going to do this.
[1:16:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And you know, at that point, I don't know how you come back from that.
[1:16:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like,
[1:16:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is so confusing for me because everything in the fiber of my being is telling me that he's lying but he is making a point about going through the phone things and I'm like, but could he be telling the truth because he gives like a speech, he's tearing up and I gotta say the speech got me made because he's like, I've got a big heart and you've got it in your hands and I was like, uh, you know, the hard part here is,
[1:16:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: incredibly loyal partners and cheating partners have one thing in common.
[1:16:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't want you want to my phone.
[1:16:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You could make a solid argument either way, because yeah, if there's all kind of nasty picks and there's stuff, I don't want you to see a map, but also like how dare you not trust me?
[1:17:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it is a tough spot to be in, but like
[1:17:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't feel good about whatever happened here, something something to sit right with me.
[1:17:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, something doesn't.
[1:17:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I mean, I think faith decides to move on for a minute, because what are you going to do?
[1:17:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:17:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's not going to tell you what it is.
[1:17:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: How is she even going to find out?
[1:17:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Is either she takes a leap of faith or she just jumpship.
[1:17:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:17:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, all the options to break up.
[1:17:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So either you get past this.
[1:17:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you guys call it quits.
[1:17:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:17:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: All right, Cuban and Ryan, um, he has to travel for work.
[1:17:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's curious to see how they handle it.
[1:17:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says she doesn't mind, but they just won't have as much time as the rest.
[1:17:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And this is where I said, like, this pisses me off because first we see Ryan and Amsterdam, then we see him in Spain.
[1:17:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And you remember that guy?
[1:17:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That was a flight attendant in Poland.
[1:17:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Mm-hmm.
[1:17:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And we're like, what is happening here?
[1:17:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm seeing it again.
[1:17:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just think like it should be a requirement because Cuba has not spending time on her boo.
[1:18:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like this is not an experiment.
[1:18:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's just has a free apartment in London by herself, but she's not gonna spend time with him and this man is so invested.
[1:18:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And as if that isn't bad enough, when he comes back Ryan needs to have a decompression time, except they don't have time.
[1:18:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's the exact same thing as the flight attendant because it was like he got home and all he wanted to do was like laid out and just be like I need a day to just like rest Which totally understand traveling can be exhausting and I've I've done my fair share of public speaking I can also like where you out after you've done that for a few days or whatever But then don't come on the show because you're not you're not gonna have the time and you're you are
[1:18:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're hijacking the part of the process from your partner who does not have the time to do what all the other couples are doing, which is already at a abbreviated process, so like you're really kind of taking a big part of this process away from your partner if you're going to be gone for that much time.
[1:18:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And the thing that pisses me off about is like when it comes to the pods, they really have time.
[1:19:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: All of a sudden we have 10 days that we can spend and we don't have to go anywhere.
[1:19:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then when we have to spend it with our partners, all of a sudden, oh, I got to work.
[1:19:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Now I got to take time off for whatever, so it just seems like selfish, where you can make it work when it's just you.
[1:19:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But now you have to involve someone and you clean, you want to get married.
[1:19:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And all of a sudden it's like, well, I can't, I'm booked up.
[1:19:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I hate that.
[1:19:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm gonna do it for a month.
[1:19:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yep.
[1:19:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, when Ryan comes back like their reunion, he just feels awkward, um, she confirms it because I had said that I'd written that down and then she confirms it when she says like since he came back, there's been an energy shift.
[1:19:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then we get this awkward scene where she's in the kitchen.
[1:19:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's on his phone.
[1:19:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, do you want an apple?
[1:19:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No.
[1:19:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Silence he's on his phone and he's like yeah, usually I recoup when I recharge But now I don't have that there's somebody else in the picture got damn it.
[1:19:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not No, you're fiancee that you really chose There is nothing worse in a dating show than when they have an extended scene with no dialogue and no background music It's like you just you just they're hammering home how uncomfortable this is because I'm uncomfortable in my basement on the couch
[1:20:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: the camera man and produces like if we had to live through it, you have to too.
[1:20:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, you know, you hear like a quiet call from the background.
[1:20:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So Ryan has a conversation with her to share why he has been lagging.
[1:20:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says like, you know, he's good at taking care of himself, but she's here now.
[1:20:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like so he has to consider that.
[1:20:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And honestly, she has been very understanding to me on it.
[1:20:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's been very understanding of all this nonsense.
[1:20:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know, he's doing.
[1:20:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But he doesn't stop there because then we find out that Ryan's grandmother has not been doing well and he has to go over to go, you know,
[1:20:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Take care of business and do his duty and he's packing up to leave again.
[1:20:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So Cuba is sad and I think, you know, she's going to say, because he asked her like, you know, are you okay and all that?
[1:20:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I thought she was going to say, I wish I had more time.
[1:20:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But instead she's like, I wish I could be there for you.
[1:21:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, you know, I don't want to put pressure on you.
[1:21:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I don't know, she's doing this experiment alone.
[1:21:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's just there's no way I can just do getting married because they just haven't had
[1:21:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: any time, we do find out that his name did pass away, you know, um, you know, I'm glad he got to go there on time, um, what do we think about her not being part of it?
[1:21:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because she's explaining to Fran, right?
[1:21:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That, you know, I'm just this woman that he's engaged to and I can just show up on what is it?
[1:21:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But at the end of the day, she is his fiance and this is real life.
[1:21:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So what do we think about that?
[1:21:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I, I,
[1:21:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm of two minds, because like, yeah, you've known to other for technically a couple of weeks, but like, you all haven't seen each other very much lately.
[1:21:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it's not, you know, I could ever stand her being like, there should be kind of an awkward place for me to be, especially if we wind up not staying together at the end of this, because then we had this kind of a weird memory.
[1:22:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But on the other hand, yeah, you're right.
[1:22:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's just me, I'm saying.
[1:22:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And not only,
[1:22:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: should she want to be there for him, I would want my fiance there for me.
[1:22:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like I would like to have that emotional support, obviously as family is there.
[1:22:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you can like mean on them, but it's different when you have a partner who's all still a support you.
[1:22:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, yeah.
[1:22:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And less it was a situation where like I could not go because of work or whatever.
[1:22:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If it was like a he flat out did not invite me and said like, I don't want you to come.
[1:22:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That is a tough spot to be in.
[1:22:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:22:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think like, I get it.
[1:22:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's awkward in both ends, but if you're in me, she should show up.
[1:22:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What other way, like, then by jumping into the deep end and just jumping in there?
[1:22:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And this is where it is.
[1:22:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You've got to tell people that this is what you're going to because if he was around, wouldn't he have introduced her to the family anyways?
[1:22:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So they just have to suck it up.
[1:22:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So if she's gonna be around and then see how you fit in, get a feel for it and let's see how either wind blows with that.
[1:23:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, the cracks are showing because when she's out of the conversation with friend friend asked what does she need from him, you know, for things to be better.
[1:23:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She kind of tears up and says she needs to know if he's selfless.
[1:23:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The answer is no, he's not.
[1:23:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Absolutely not.
[1:23:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It is not.
[1:23:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So she says it's really hard because she actually like loves him.
[1:23:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And friend says, but she loves you exes and they weren't for you and I was like, and I, who?
[1:23:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Whoa She was like just know that you'd be fine either way like even if you leave Like you need to find someone who's all about you and you'll same way you found him You will find another person who is you like friend was really the MVP this batch of episodes like she don't take no shit from nobody So yeah, great friend Okay Taylor and Sophie
[1:23:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Brian, Sophie's lucky she's pretty because she's not smart.
[1:23:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh my god.
[1:24:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: London tour was killing me softly.
[1:24:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why do I know the names of it the last seven prime ministers?
[1:24:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And you don't seem to know what Downing Street is.
[1:24:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, what did they do?
[1:24:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Do they all change?
[1:24:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why is it called West End?
[1:24:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why is it the West End?
[1:24:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, my god.
[1:24:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can't imagine driving past the White House and my fiance being hit.
[1:24:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What's that building over there?
[1:24:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just painted it white because what is that she would fit in very well with love island gross like I remember when someone asked what Brexit was they were like like an island or something but yeah they go to the main story all they go to Manchester to see her place and I got to say her home is really lovely
[1:24:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: her home is you know really nice and all that um this is just for me selfish purposes we find out that he's club is Chelsea yeah I guess sorry but all right there's um also a point where listen there's not much going on with Taylor and Sophie honestly they're just like gliding her together in their little bubble but he's being like very proactive he already has an interview in Manchester he has another one he's prepping for it she's making him
[1:25:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then she's like, oh, your home is just like you and she's like, what, like, playing in boring, they both laugh haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha
[1:25:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, we have two more couples, let's go with AJ and Kira.
[1:25:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She asked him about his future career options.
[1:25:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Listen, for all of the things Kira is, this is very valid.
[1:25:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's just like, what we doing son, because you were talking about, you used to working banks, and she's like, I just want to make sure we're in a good financial position.
[1:26:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, I can always go back to banking if I want to, but I want to open up my own fitness studio.
[1:26:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm still not getting enough.
[1:26:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If you can always go back, why are you taking a break?
[1:26:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What is happening with the break?
[1:26:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: How are you funding your life?
[1:26:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, it's only makes sense if he's like I have signed a lease on what's going to be my fitness studio And it's taking all of my time to like set this up and get everything in order for this business to make yeah, I want to do this I could go bank, but like I'm just taking it in the meantime metton that doesn't want to hit for me Maybe he quit to join the show
[1:26:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: could be it could reach out before it's possible so he doesn't want to say it but we need more so hopefully the reading tells us more so guys remember we haven't watched it soon as spoilers um he says he wants to set up based in London and then she starts to describe like what i'm thinking is a bedroom a house and uh she talks so slowly she's like sad she does
[1:27:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just want to let you know, like, we've mentioned this before.
[1:27:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We've talked about it.
[1:27:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: How a lot of people don't live in London anymore because it's so expensive.
[1:27:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: All like a lot of people have come in and, you know, the rich men have come in and built their houses and shoved all the people outside of London.
[1:27:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Almost everybody lives outside of London, but she wants in southwest London.
[1:27:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like it's close to Wimbledon, which is why she lives, which is why she wants to take it.
[1:27:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's in Wimbledon or whatever.
[1:27:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This place is not cheap.
[1:27:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: People can barely afford to rent talkless of buying the houses.
[1:27:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I looked up the prices.
[1:27:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're talking like on the very, very low end, which I don't think she'll even get the 4 to 5 bedroom.
[1:27:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're talking about 745 whatever thousand pounds.
[1:27:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then on the high end, we're talking about won't play something real.
[1:27:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And here's the good thing about America.
[1:27:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: At least if you get a job, you get six figures or whatever.
[1:27:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The seller is in London, like unless you like in finance or whatever, it's not like this big, huge thing.
[1:27:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So for her to talk about a four to five bedroom in southwest London, in renovation, and all of the things, I'm like, hmm.
[1:28:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, the producers did her, the producers did her dirty when they went out of the building and like slowly zoomed back and she's still talking about like skylights and shit like this list must have gone on for 45 minutes.
[1:28:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yep.
[1:28:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But um, what did I say?
[1:28:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, Jack might be up to, no, I said, okay, I was like, what did I say in my notes?
[1:28:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, Jack might be on to something when he said that she was boring because they show us a whole bunch of conversations with AJ and she wakes up and I was like, so how will you do the pillows today?
[1:28:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, what?
[1:28:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What?
[1:28:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What?
[1:28:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What?
[1:28:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: How many ways did you pull those?
[1:28:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Also, again, like I said, it does not feel like a loving relationship.
[1:28:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, but she tells us they're better than ever.
[1:28:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: AJ also says they're better than ever, because she's nagging at him for everything.
[1:28:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And even after that, he has to bring her a cup of chino.
[1:28:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He has to tip to around oil, she'll be mad.
[1:28:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I hear nothing about what she does for him, but if that's what he likes, because he just wants to be with a blonde, good luck to him.
[1:29:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, hey, well, it hurt offense.
[1:29:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We do hear what she does for him because she complains up picking up his socks and complains about him not doing his laundry because his mom does it in all that shit.
[1:29:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So like, she does stuff, but she has like, rub it in his face, whatever she does, everything for him.
[1:29:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, it was funny though when she says, like, oh, do you like living with me?
[1:29:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, what is the, what is my best quality about living with me and he says clear directions?
[1:29:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're just very clear about things you want to live with me.
[1:29:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She nexted me again as she tells us that she's nagging him, but in the confessional she tells us that living with him is so easy and she's basically pushing boundaries to see how much he can take.
[1:29:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Don't do that.
[1:29:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Are we children?
[1:29:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why are we doing that?
[1:29:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Don't give her part of tests.
[1:29:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Don't do that.
[1:29:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, so this is a part where she Yasmin go meet up with Shivani.
[1:30:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So yes, my statement still stands.
[1:30:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yasmin you go meet up with Shivani and you do not tell maybe Yasmin felt so uncomfortable because, you know, she's part of Destiny's child.
[1:30:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Destiny's child is Cuba.
[1:30:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, and who was who was that they used to be a fourth one?
[1:30:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it would be that would do.
[1:30:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can't remember her name anymore.
[1:30:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, went out three.
[1:30:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They ended up with three.
[1:30:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's the decision.
[1:30:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'll be ended up with.
[1:30:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, um, so they were going to meet with Shevnik.
[1:30:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I, I, I, I feel like that should have come up.
[1:30:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, you know, because Joseph seems very shocked.
[1:30:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, oh, you met up with Shevnik.
[1:30:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Which means that Francesca didn't know.
[1:30:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because if she knows, would tell Joseph.
[1:30:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, yeah.
[1:30:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Shevnik says that she didn't voice how she felt.
[1:30:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he was, you know, he still wanted to explore.
[1:30:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Now, Kira is saying that she felt like she didn't get a warm welcome from Joseph, and he was digging, and now he's upset with her, and I'm like, the story keeps changing.
[1:31:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what it is.
[1:31:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Sheavenike is like, oh, I have no beef.
[1:31:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, I don't want anyone to think like I'm stepping on their connection.
[1:31:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She just wants to have a conversation with him to close that chapter, and that, you know, he owes her not closure, but an explanation, and I'm like,
[1:31:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, AJ and Kira got into an argument, and he's fell asleep in a separate apartment.
[1:31:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was that bad that they had to go.
[1:31:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So he comes back.
[1:31:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He tells us what happens.
[1:31:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That he told her that he's parents weren't comfortable being on camera.
[1:31:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: and he didn't get any empathy from her and now he has doubts.
[1:31:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So he goes to Jordan to talk to him about it.
[1:31:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he was like, they were just big accusations on his character.
[1:31:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That was me.
[1:31:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And you know, the other thing is like, when they go for dinner and things like that, that she has a minimum spend of 300 pounds when they go out.
[1:31:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, I feel no pity for you.
[1:32:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She was up front about that.
[1:32:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, she did not lie, but damn.
[1:32:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You can have thoughts about whoever, but I always try, that's my goal to be objective.
[1:32:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it's like, she was up front about that, the kind of shopping she wants, how much she expects when they go out and all the things and you're like, oh, I can give her that lifestyle.
[1:32:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So don't come out here.
[1:32:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not whining about it.
[1:32:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I feel no pity for him about that.
[1:32:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I feel no pity for him, but damn, that sucks.
[1:32:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's it.
[1:32:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't feel bad.
[1:32:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't feel bad for the choice.
[1:32:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's great, but like damn, I wouldn't, couldn't be me.
[1:32:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, it could be AJ.
[1:32:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So Yasmin goes to Kira and Kira just cups to everything.
[1:32:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I can't tell if this girl is playing the camera, but I don't know.
[1:32:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, you know, I missed it when he was looking for empathy.
[1:32:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I didn't give him the empathy.
[1:32:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I recognized that now that was absolutely being unreasonable and you know what?
[1:32:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think I was self-sapatizing.
[1:32:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That is her talking point that she has decided to go with.
[1:33:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And, you know, she just trying to see how far she could poke him, and he asked me, I was like, okay, you're like, at least you recognize that these are all the things that would be nice for AJ, you know, to hear.
[1:33:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: AJ comes back.
[1:33:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She immediately cops to it.
[1:33:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She wasn't reasonable.
[1:33:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She was picking a fight.
[1:33:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She was so sabotaging, and he brings up the fact that she was on her phone during the conversation.
[1:33:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, oh, he's telling you that his parents don't want to be part of it.
[1:33:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, I just put it Joseph.
[1:33:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And,
[1:33:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's why I knew he was Nigerian and being on the phone the entire time that he's talking to you about that, that's awful.
[1:33:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's really awful.
[1:33:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: In my mind, specifically, she was on TikTok with a volume up.
[1:33:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So she's just like watching videos he's talking.
[1:33:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There's like bad strings and shit happening.
[1:33:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So he says okay cool.
[1:33:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Let's move on, but on the other hand I cannot keep up with your dinners This is too much pressure.
[1:33:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I know you told me, but I do know you were serious, but he didn't say all that This is me, but he's just like I can't keep up and it's too much pressure I just like honestly I love you.
[1:34:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It doesn't mean anything I just hope you know that you know we're able to get back to where we were and you don't need to do all of that I'm like here are you lying to?
[1:34:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I don't know why you say that, but he says like I hope to see that, you know, in action, you know, we'll see.
[1:34:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They meet up with her friends.
[1:34:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know why we're not meeting up with her family.
[1:34:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Did she switch up because.
[1:34:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If your family is not coming, I'm not bringing my family on camera and then they meet up with her friends.
[1:34:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They think that she's so happy.
[1:34:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They can tell the difference that she's so relaxed.
[1:34:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're very happy about how fit he is and all that.
[1:34:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I don't know if I'm watching something different.
[1:34:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm watching two people who don't seem to be in a happy relationship, but they say they see it and they think she's so happy.
[1:34:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: maybe this is what she looks like when she's happy.
[1:35:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I hate that for her, but maybe this is like what bliss looks like for her.
[1:35:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, and then yet another switch of rule.
[1:35:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I guess his parents had a change of heart and they've decided apparently come by in a day.
[1:35:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, don't tell us all of that.
[1:35:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, I guess that caused the fight.
[1:35:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So anyways, parents come by and they're, he's parents look good and then he comes in.
[1:35:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's been telling her how, you know, if they do that in their culture, I don't think I ever mentioned that AJ's Indian.
[1:35:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[1:35:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So AJ Ay, not AJ.
[1:35:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think his full name is like AJ Powell.
[1:35:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think his dad called him his full name and I missed that, but yeah, but AJ Ay.
[1:35:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, so they talk about it.
[1:35:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: These guys are on their best behavior.
[1:35:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what they're really feeling.
[1:35:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're just like, damn, we're going to film this scene and let us be.
[1:35:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They say she's nice.
[1:35:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's important.
[1:35:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They communicate and he says, hold on a second.
[1:36:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He comes, he brings the invite, brings the sweets, gives it to them, which is a proper Indian way to do things.
[1:36:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And the dad is like, oh, so we're, we're really doing this.
[1:36:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're serious on that.
[1:36:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And you know, you're not a lyric break.
[1:36:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She was like, you know, he went a long way to go get, you know, the sweets and to make sure that, you know, he had this, the proper way.
[1:36:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So they accept they give a hug, they say congratulations and it's like, we have your blessing, right?
[1:36:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And the dad was like, I guess yes.
[1:36:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So that was it.
[1:36:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, we get one of the flash scenes and I'm mentioning this because Kira's a lot of things for that unassisted headstand in the middle of the living room.
[1:36:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Interest wild wild.
[1:36:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Fresh.
[1:36:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Very impressive.
[1:36:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So yeah, while he back is, I should add.
[1:36:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Right.
[1:36:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, there's a distraction happening around.
[1:36:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And make sure that, you know, the bin was empty.
[1:36:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You took out the trash and all of that kind of stuff.
[1:36:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The final scene we see from them was Kira wanting to show that she embraced this his culture.
[1:37:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she has a whole doole set up for him.
[1:37:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I got to tell you that was really nice.
[1:37:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: that was very nice and a lot of effort.
[1:37:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This was not like one banner.
[1:37:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She like decked out the apartment and he was clearly emotionally moved by this to the point that like he couldn't even come all the way into the room at first because he was so like emotionally overtaken very sweet.
[1:37:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I still hate her guts, but this was very sweet.
[1:37:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, it was very sweet.
[1:37:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I don't know, I guess it's spies in favor because there's nothing like when two cultures are coming along and the other
[1:37:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: good for them.
[1:37:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So that's it, and we'll go to our final couple, which was Yasmin and Jordan.
[1:37:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I already talked about the DMs.
[1:37:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She was trying to break her neck, trying to see his DMs and he's requests.
[1:37:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He says that the pace is slower, but he doesn't want to hold it against her, and he's very clearly speaking slowly about that.
[1:38:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's telling her about this.
[1:38:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're having lunch or something or whatever, and he's choosing his words very carefully.
[1:38:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And this is where I'm like, okay, I'm curious.
[1:38:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: When we say we're going slow, if we're going slow, we're doing this.
[1:38:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Is this slow like, this is a guarded thing?
[1:38:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Is this slow like, she's a virgin?
[1:38:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, I don't know when we're saying slow, what is the pace that is slow that he doesn't want to hold against her?
[1:38:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I really don't know.
[1:38:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, it's
[1:38:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, knowing where this ends it just feels like he's trying to like search for something to say to be like, this is why we're having troubles, but I don't
[1:38:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: searching Brian because even looking at it, there's a disconnect somewhere.
[1:38:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know if the disconnect is that she doesn't fully feel comfortable because in the past people, you know, breaker heart, she's being guarded or it's just getting something from him and she's like, yeah, I don't think I can fully settle with him because something is missing.
[1:39:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But then she also tells us like, I'm so comfortable.
[1:39:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's such a gentleman and he always tells us, oh, she's a diamond.
[1:39:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So when he's talking about, I'm not holding it against you, we're going slower.
[1:39:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What are we referring to?
[1:39:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because everyone says we're great.
[1:39:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what it is.
[1:39:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I do like how she answered, which is like, listen, this two of us in a relationship, I do appreciate you, like, you know,
[1:39:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: going at my pace, respecting me and all that.
[1:39:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But if it's too slow for you, speak up.
[1:39:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, I'm just screaming at my TV.
[1:39:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What is too slow?
[1:39:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What are we talking about?
[1:39:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But put like a black screen with some text on it explaining what happens to you.
[1:39:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Duh-duh, me, right?
[1:39:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So... Webster's dictionary defines slow-ass.
[1:39:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, can't give me something here.
[1:39:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, so after the hangout, she goes back home, how was it?
[1:39:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was great.
[1:39:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says, oh, so I walked in to this massive bouquet of flowers from Ryan that Sophie got.
[1:40:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she said, you know, I told them jokingly, I'm still waiting for flowers from Jordan.
[1:40:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then there's a massive face change from Jordan when that happens.
[1:40:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then she says, you know, the others they never have to wonder how they feel and it's like I don't get that from you and we're not there yet and this is where I think her inexperience is showing because she could have made her point.
[1:40:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She did not have to do the comparison.
[1:40:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're not getting that from there were massive flowers.
[1:40:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You get me that the others are feeling great.
[1:40:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, I don't feel that way.
[1:40:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't want to you could have just said, hey.
[1:40:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not getting what I need.
[1:40:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, not because they got it, but because I want it, you know, Jordan immediately is like, yeah, I hear what you're saying, but we should not compare ourselves to others.
[1:40:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like we are slower than everyone else.
[1:40:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Again, what is low?
[1:40:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're all in for a meal.
[1:40:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: A pogo stick.
[1:40:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We are slow.
[1:40:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says she wants him to feel happy enough to want to buy her those things.
[1:41:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He says I'm here.
[1:41:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I can try and we probably just need to be a lot more honest and then they hug.
[1:41:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, it's just not me.
[1:41:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just don't think maybe the chemistry or something is not there.
[1:41:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But he doesn't waste time.
[1:41:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's a quick learner.
[1:41:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The next day he comes by.
[1:41:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He brings her flowers in her favorite chocolates.
[1:41:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're not the huge bouquet that Ryan got, but their flowers are their flowers.
[1:41:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They go there.
[1:41:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They go meet his family and they're talking and everyone's going well.
[1:41:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And we find out that he didn't share with the family that she had bit's logo.
[1:41:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: because she was like, I was asking him if he shared and he was like, she goes that's a testament to it not being like a big deal, you know, for him.
[1:41:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The family loves her.
[1:41:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think his sister was like, you know, I don't want to jump a gun, but I really like this connection that's going on.
[1:41:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And part of what I'm saying that Yasmeen had a lot to do.
[1:41:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Every time she gets compliments, Yasmeen seems always surprised whenever to give her compliments.
[1:42:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, oh my God, like, you're talking to me, like me?
[1:42:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why?
[1:42:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, you know, she's always surprised about that.
[1:42:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: and his dad pulls him aside and asks him how he feels about the marriage.
[1:42:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know, I wasn't sure at first that it was his dad because he did say that none of his parents ever got married.
[1:42:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He would be the first, just his dad and whatever, but they were together.
[1:42:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: His dad was there, his mom was there, so... Just never actually got married, but... Are they together?
[1:42:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think.
[1:42:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was unclear, so I don't know if they were, and even with, I don't know.
[1:42:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I know, I know someone mentioned to me, because remember, we're saying that they were racially ambiguous, they all looked black to me, but the mom, I don't know, she might be mixed race.
[1:42:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Could be, it's, it's just very hard to tell.
[1:42:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I always feel like you're texting right away.
[1:42:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, it's always tough.
[1:42:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, she could be like a giselle from Potomac, you know, she's just high.
[1:43:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay.
[1:43:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, um, his dad pulls him aside and asks how he feels about marriage and he said he's so careful with his words that he's actually not saying that there's no spark.
[1:43:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is me saying there's no spark because what he says is I don't want to say something is missing, but we need a fire.
[1:43:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, you need a spark.
[1:43:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: and his dad says like this and you have to make a decision for yourself no matter what like no matter how lovely that she is and he says generally that he doesn't know what's holding him back.
[1:43:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like there's no spark just say to yourself then you can deal with it but if you keep trying to yourself then you can't deal with it.
[1:43:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, Jordan has looked so burdened.
[1:43:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He looks so weary, like the whole world is on his shoulders.
[1:43:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So much so that he cannot even be at the party in half fun or wait till they're at home.
[1:43:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But at the party, he tells, yes, me, that he doesn't want her to waste all her uni and med school and move to Birmingham.
[1:43:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, uh, wait.
[1:44:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So what's up?
[1:44:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm willing to do it and he's like, you know, with marriage, it's heavy.
[1:44:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just don't know and she's just like, listen, we have two solutions.
[1:44:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There are two things that we need to do.
[1:44:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm willing to move is either I move or you move.
[1:44:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You clearly do not want to move because you want to be around your family.
[1:44:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm willing to move and now if you're saying don't move, then that's it.
[1:44:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then he's waffling and just like, yeah, I don't know.
[1:44:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And that's kind of pissing me off.
[1:44:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I hate and decisive person.
[1:44:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, has to be the one to say that he would rather not get married and she's like if you're not, then is it just a distance like what do we like what is thing here?
[1:44:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I got to say that she's very astute in this case and then she just says, you know, let's talk about this at home because honestly, why are we talking about to set the birthday party, you know?
[1:44:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So she shares this with the rest of Destiny's child and she was like, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm not buying it.
[1:44:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like there's something more, there has to be something more like it just can't be thick to distance because someone who's in love with you would be like, yeah, I don't want you to do that.
[1:45:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But if you're willing and you're saying that you do it, you be like, yes, come on down.
[1:45:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, honestly, that is a huge show of love that you're willing to show again.
[1:45:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, you're able to get a job anywhere, so what is the problem?
[1:45:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're not moving anywhere, so what do you want?
[1:45:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like why don't you just come right out and say it?
[1:45:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So make sure you ask him these questions.
[1:45:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So they get a home and she asks, is it just a distance?
[1:45:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Which again, that is a question she should ask.
[1:45:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But that's another example of her just parroting, what they said and what's happening, even though that's what she wanted to know.
[1:45:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he says, no, it's just a logistics.
[1:45:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So Cuba comes by to see her later on and Cuba tells her, like, do not let you drain your energy.
[1:45:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Man, know what they want.
[1:45:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Look at Taylor.
[1:45:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Taylor done applied ASAP to Manchester, but let me tell you, this is the effect of houses.
[1:45:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We see negative things, the K-C, Sean, but this house is like, you know, I might could live here.
[1:46:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Uh-huh.
[1:46:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm Jeff, first episode of Fresh Prince.
[1:46:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm joking guys, but, you know, I'm just saying like she's not wrong.
[1:46:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If you want to make your work, if you said you were going to do that, you knew where she lived the whole time you were in the pot, which I don't know why she didn't bring that up.
[1:46:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Now all of a sudden you're concerned about in wasting, it's not wasted in my guy, like I'm willing and I can get a job anywhere, so don't act like all of a sudden, this is a whole new problem that popped up.
[1:46:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So he calls his mom and says that he has doubts and like he just feels like the spark isn't there.
[1:46:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Finally, he says it and he doesn't know what to do.
[1:46:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And the mom is like, well, you'll be fine.
[1:46:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You always know what to do.
[1:46:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You'll be right.
[1:46:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Don't trip.
[1:46:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He always did the right thing.
[1:46:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So finally, Jordan finally man's up and tells her that he has been in love before and he's been waiting for that spark and with the weddings coming soon, that it's not here and he doesn't know if that's gonna come.
[1:46:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She starts to cry, that's the other thing about Yasumi, like she's a cryer, like she doesn't take much, like she's a cryer.
[1:47:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: and she says like it's a shame that they didn't get there and nothing in this conversation feels her with confidence that they're ready to get married.
[1:47:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, uh, I think that's what he's saying.
[1:47:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I don't think it's an option anymore.
[1:47:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I think it's over.
[1:47:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think it's like we're breaking up, but she's never been in a relationship to know what a breakup feels like I guess because I'm like, what would you mean that there's still confidence because there's none being given.
[1:47:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So he tells her again that, you know, she's a diamond.
[1:47:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, we're not in Bridgeton, we get it, but no.
[1:47:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, she feels sad.
[1:47:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's not a bad guy, but they both have things to work on and.
[1:47:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think that she needs to still work on her confidence.
[1:47:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, yeah, this reminded me of Keith and Iris from Mas.
[1:47:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was just my pressure.
[1:47:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I knew first everything was the first that, remember we still don't know the slow thing.
[1:48:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know if she's emerging or not.
[1:48:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then you'll be the first and it's just a lot that I wasn't just kind of freaked out.
[1:48:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And the combination of that, her having to work on her confidence and you know, figure out what it is that she wants.
[1:48:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's a lot and then when she's like sobbing in the confessional and just saying like it's sad that they couldn't get there That she feels like a failure and I'm like yeah, she got a lot of work.
[1:48:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:48:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, she got to do so.
[1:48:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean now she can't say she Never been in a relationship.
[1:48:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She kind of was for two weeks.
[1:48:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It counts No, she was like oh I've ever been to a year was how long was your last relationship?
[1:48:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: two weeks and you're like you're going to be a bullshit.
[1:48:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, yeah, so that's it.
[1:48:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, uh, someone bites the dust.
[1:48:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So it was all come by up at this happened and now we have to remain here the couple's left and that's it.
[1:48:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yep.
[1:48:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Any final thoughts?
[1:48:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, I just wish I would have known what other couples got engaged because knowing that it's this many is insane and like I hope at the reunion They at least like have them there together Not that I'd recognize any of them.
[1:49:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm just curious about you know who wound up and why why these choices are made in all that but yeah other than that
[1:49:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This has not been my favorite season, but there's been like enough stuff in there to to kind of latch on to We got a couple of couples I just don't care about and that doesn't really help that much, but so I think the thing is there was no doubt that They were not they were going to pick Yasme.
[1:49:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, we're going to pick Yasme either for sure.
[1:49:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think we could have done without Ryan and Cuba.
[1:49:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yep, because from the jump, they just wasn't anything else.
[1:49:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Sophie and Taylor, they need to have like woofoo, they consider they're golden couple, right?
[1:49:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I feel like I'm boy, happy couple.
[1:49:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Jack and Fay definitely were gonna come either way and then with the triangle with Kira, that was inevitable.
[1:49:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She was sure.
[1:49:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That was true.
[1:49:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, it's just, I don't know, it's what it is.
[1:50:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it's what it had to be.
[1:50:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But yeah, it's also not a season that I'm like, we should stop covering this.
[1:50:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not bad or anything, but yeah, I'm looking forward to the reunion because the UK reunions are always better than the American reunions.
[1:50:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I'm looking forward to some sparks there.
[1:50:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:50:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Alright guys, that's it.
[1:50:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Thank you for hanging with us.
[1:50:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We will be back depending on how we goes.
[1:50:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We might have like the weddings episodes and then the reunion.
[1:50:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, we might have the reunion and weddings episodes together.
[1:50:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But stay subscribed so you don't miss out on any new episodes.
[1:50:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And until next time, guys, bye.

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