# Love is Blind Netherlands: S1 Eps. 6-8 w/Brian

An episode of [Tayne Talks: A Reality TV Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1522401890), 11 Oct 2026, 1 h 32 min.

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Oh boy! It's not looking good for the Dutch as we watch couples crumble. Brian and I try to figure out what is missing with this franchise, why we keep watching fights that we have no idea what is happening and Justice for Roel! Still paging the Dutch delegation! Get bonus episodes on Patreon on documentaries, MAFS content and reality shows like Sister Wives and 90 Day Fiance. Different levels are available - a tier to listen to episodes ad-free ($3), a tier for bonus episodes ($5) and another to listen ad-free, bonus episodes and get regular episodes early ($10) Join the conversation in the Patreon Community Chat and on Instagram, Twitter, Bluesky and Threads - @taynetalks Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

## Transcript

[0:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Hello, everybody.
[0:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Welcome to another episode of Teen Talks.
[0:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I am your host, Tane.
[0:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Here today to talk to you about love is blind Netherlands episode six to eight.
[0:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: As always, with me is Brian from Mass Virgin, what up, Brian?
[0:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm a bit of a mess because we were watching the traders until a minute ago, and I am missing the last 10 minutes.
[0:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So we didn't finish it.
[0:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just, this is, this is what happens when you ride the wave and you're just like, oh, well, popular, we can do whatever we want.
[0:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, I'm still enjoying the show, but I'm not enjoying you blood as much as I enjoyed the reality version.
[0:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know what that says about me and my participation in the indulgence of American celebrity culture, or just understand reality TV, and it's just more entertaining.
[1:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like traditionally, everyone is so bad.
[1:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: At the traders, like, you know, I will say, guys.
[1:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Spoiler alert and I apologize.
[1:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm so sorry.
[1:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you don't want to hear it, just give me five Like I said, I'm watching treat as Canada and they were able to get a trader or the first try That's impressive.
[1:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Those are the season of Canada where it was like god dog guys like Again, this people are so loud so wrong everyone is just it's chaotic which By all accounts should be great, but I'm just yeah, how many right now?
[1:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Joe and to me go under the radar now they're going to be everywhere because of a goddamn apple Multiple apples because Joe eight one had to grab another one to our walk, and I'm like, okay That's once you've eaten it you have to have somebody else do this for you You cannot get a second apple and this be walking around Craydling at a whole apple if I get an apple I bite it right away I don't just like walk around a whole thing.
[2:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We apple for a long time first
[2:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: bouncing it around and then well someone did try to help him and now she's implicated to me go like do you want fruit do you want fruit everyone is on edge you are not season one everyone knows murder and plain sight everyone is suspicious of everything it was just way too obvious but I know the producers did that because they're like all right we got to get the ball rolling and the show doesn't start until
[2:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They sat catching at least one trader and I know that was the purpose was just to open things up and have suspicion on people, people otherwise never have suspicion.
[2:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: on, but the cliffhanger stopped it.
[2:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Amazing race gave us a cliffhanger.
[2:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They gave us a cliffhanger.
[2:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like the dreaded words at the end of an episode of reality TV is to be continued ellipses.
[2:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Let's stop it.
[2:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Stop it.
[2:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The whole season is to be continued.
[2:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's the point of the season.
[2:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It only belongs to me if it's the housewives, and we are in the middle of a fight, and then we pick back up in like the next word spoken in the fight.
[3:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Anything else is just how reality shows work.
[3:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[3:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But yeah, before we get into this, right now we're just talking, uh, love his mind USA is coming back.
[3:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, they have decided we're just going to overlap overlap overlap and I'm like, guys, space it out.
[3:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You don't have the equity you used to have, um, prior, like it's not like you've been giving us riveting love his mind season.
[3:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So,
[3:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Let us digest and let us, you know, work through it.
[3:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But also the gods that be, I'm traveling forward.
[3:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, you know, my schedule is all kind of messed up.
[3:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But we're going to make it work and try to have like be on schedule with them and try to have the episodes for Love Is Buying USA and Love Is Buying Netherlands.
[3:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We see now why there's just one episode next week because they are dropping like flies.
[3:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, when I'm going to do episode nine as a standalone, we're just
[3:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: because anticipated there's going to be weddings, but it's just full right into the reason nobody made it.
[4:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, so since we hope there's a reunion, there's not a date yet we're just going to just tell you if the two people said I do I didn't for episode nine because I don't know what else, more people drop in episode nine.
[4:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Which could happen,
[4:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Nothing is impossible.
[4:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So then we will talk about that.
[4:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Even though love is buying your seats coming back, we'll do the first five episodes that they're doing.
[4:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So we'll try to get that to you.
[4:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So anyway, you can count it as for your love is buying recap and we will be back with that.
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[4:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I promise.
[4:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's it.
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[5:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're going to want to see it.
[5:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm very handsome.
[5:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Who doesn't want to see the man who says booty too little.
[5:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All the time.
[5:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: only one that applies, which is all the time.
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[5:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay.
[5:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Love is my Netherlands.
[5:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[5:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It has all the ingredients and it doesn't matter that they're not falling in love.
[5:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not a, you know, they're not the first, we've had it before.
[5:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's just, I think I felt like just kept going and going.
[6:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've never ended and I'm just, I'm not invested like what are you talking about I don't care about a single one of these couple I have no emotional connection to anybody like you said it's got all the pieces there's just fighting and there's breakups I think I am
[6:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: mostly upset that Yasmin and Miguel are getting all this.
[6:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
[6:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You guys don't get to come on the show again.
[6:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You guys, you did a thing, you picked your person, come on for the reunion.
[6:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't want to follow your love story now.
[6:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[6:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, but I just don't, I don't need any of what is going on despite it being all the things that I always say that I want.
[6:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's just not making for some reason.
[6:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't, if you're out there and you, you can pinpoint what is missing,
[6:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: People watching this as much as the others like for once.
[6:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is the first country we're watching the delegation did not respond I did not get any Any feedback any insight any knowledge even though I paged the Dutch delegation Hey, don't watch it out there.
[7:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Please let me know because in the past you know, we've got you when we did it Leo, we did sweet and we did pull it I got all the feedback this was crickets for me, and I'm like well the Dutch said we don't know these people
[7:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, no, these people, so maybe just the Americans are watching us like we don't know either.
[7:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know what to tell you.
[7:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[7:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But again, still paging.
[7:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm still trying if anyone's out there.
[7:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, that's Dutch and has insight into the behavior.
[7:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And you know, maybe any cultural differences were not aware of, I would still love to know.
[7:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I, you know, love different cultures.
[7:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's just really interesting and cool to understand it, even especially to the lens of reality TV.
[7:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But Yasmin and Miguel had to be on here, Brian.
[7:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If they didn't, they needed more people.
[7:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The producers saw what was coming.
[7:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And they were like, yeah, we got to buffer this up because it's good to know that.
[8:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: get those cameras up for them, put them in the apartment, let's get this out.
[8:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, so what I'm gonna do guys, we're gonna break it up, we're gonna talk about the last few days at the getaway, when they move back in, the pod squad party, a little highlight on after that, and then I'm just gonna go through each of the breakups because it was like, you know,
[8:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, they sold the episode like there was going to be a Bachelor of Bachelor of Eve party that was not in sight.
[8:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Didn't see one of those.
[8:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: None of those.
[8:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, so Yasmin and Miguel.
[8:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They are back in Rotterdam, and I was like, wait, did they both live there?
[8:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Were they forced to be there for the show?
[8:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I actually thought that's where everybody else was moving back to, but they started the batch of episodes with them.
[8:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I'm like, okay, I guess Rotterdam it is.
[8:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So like, if you're meeting with him, why do you have a letter?
[9:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because like, you see, these people, they're muddled.
[9:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I love writing a letter.
[9:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They love to appear in a prepared statement.
[9:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And they love to show us every single one of it.
[9:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, and it.
[9:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They give each other big hugs.
[9:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I was like, I told him when I was like, if she trying to kiss him, then she think this is a reveal.
[9:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And this is where they're gonna kiss.
[9:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, yeah, right and then he says, Oh, I didn't expect for you to want to see me and she's like in my words she claims.
[9:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, I couldn't stop thinking about you and then I was with the wrong person and then he does ask her like, did you get engaged and
[9:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was crazy and it was sudden.
[9:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I, I am with Roel.
[9:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know that there's any other explanation other than she saw him and was grossed out.
[10:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because like, she, this, this was a sudden shift and it was like hard.
[10:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was, it was a list of from Mary that first sight when she saw Chris his teeth.
[10:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, nope, nope, I'm grossed out.
[10:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're the devil.
[10:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's the tout fell.
[10:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, Yasminer's smirk is just pissing me off because for her to say was what was she saying she's like yes He gave me all the assurance that's what I fell for and then Miguel is like and it must have been difficult We weren't getting that anymore and she's like yeah, I just didn't have that anymore Like stop rewriting history.
[10:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's not what happened
[10:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You saw him and you got the egg.
[10:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He didn't stop giving you reassurance.
[10:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You told the man he needed space, does he need a pillow for it and all of the things and that you're thinking of someone else.
[10:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, why is no one blatantly saying that she didn't have it after she saw him?
[10:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's the way they're gossiping over that little, it's not a little detail.
[10:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's actually pissing me off.
[10:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like there's something he did.
[11:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, she has rewritten this entire thing to be like, yeah, once he saw me, all of a sudden, all those emotions, he just pulled them back.
[11:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, no, no, he, you were ice cold to him, and he didn't really know how to respond to that.
[11:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But he didn't, he didn't ever pull back from you.
[11:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You were the one saying, oh, I can't tell you whether other men try to have sex with.
[11:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, that ruined it for him.
[11:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you're new here, Brian tries to add a little spice.
[11:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's what happened.
[11:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She didn't actually say that.
[11:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What's the double version?
[11:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, and then, um, he asked how Ruel took it and she was like, oh, I think he his ego will always talking, he was so brutal to me, and I was like, what is happening?
[11:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then the tears came and I was like, yeah, get this people off my screen, like, get her off my screen, this victim just pissing me off right now.
[11:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So he said like, he was afraid that this Miguel that is.
[12:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's like, oh, I was afraid this was gonna happen.
[12:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she's like, oh, why?
[12:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What do you think he was like, because I knew who you were moving forward with?
[12:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What the hell did that mean?
[12:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know.
[12:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I did know what it might mean.
[12:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, yeah.
[12:15] \[UNKNOWN\]: Yeah.
[12:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: When he was like, yeah, I knew once you saw him, you're like, oh, not pure Dutch.
[12:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Whatever they like to say about it.
[12:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yo.
[12:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[12:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, and she's half Turkish.
[12:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, and that is what I thought too, but I just like, what else could this mean?
[12:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like I knew, because it's an out like, Role was like this villain and he was a terrible person that you could be like, you know, you were going with like her.
[12:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's a nice guy.
[12:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[12:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What else could it mean, but that?
[12:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, he hasn't have a peg leg or a fake hammock, Mr. Ark.
[12:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like he's a, he's a good-looking guy who seems nice and friendly and, yeah, I have no other conclusion where I could draw to.
[12:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's the choices though to keep this things in.
[13:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What are you trying to do?
[13:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Unless you're trying to address this at the reunion and we're gonna talk about it because we need answers.
[13:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know what their reunion is gonna be like, but I'm setting the bar low so I'm not disappointed, but we need answers.
[13:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So,
[13:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Anyways, she says, oh, and get my feelings.
[13:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I wrote it down in the letter, yada, yada, yada.
[13:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And of course, he opens it.
[13:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he reads it out loud.
[13:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was like, I don't care.
[13:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't want to know it's too long.
[13:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But this is letter one.
[13:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: in the whole marriage.
[13:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So he tells her he gets something her, oh, thank you honey.
[13:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Thank you sweetie, the new hugs her.
[13:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But he does kiss her.
[13:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: At first, I thought you was trying to avoid that, like not trying to like, lead her or anything.
[13:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But he does kiss her, but I don't know if it's like a hello, like cultural, like I just kiss him this time.
[13:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And that's cultural make out.
[13:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But then he's like, um, he needs time to digest, he didn't think this was going to happen, and she's like, oh, take all the time you need, like I completely understand this.
[14:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So the next thing we see is he was telling her, like, he needs to tell her something.
[14:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's not sure how she's going to take it.
[14:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you remember, I was hoping that he tells her that, you know, he moved on with Claire.
[14:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's with Claire and something's happening.
[14:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But he tells her, like, you know, when it happened, he moved on with his life.
[14:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He met up with Elvira and they went on
[14:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Never.
[14:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We just saw a flashback when she was in the flashback.
[14:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay.
[14:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We said flashback.
[14:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Thank you for that.
[14:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But he says that there were feelings involved.
[14:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Y'all, the way Miguel is saying this, it sounds like months and months passed by.
[14:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He went on dates.
[14:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He caught feelings.
[14:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He didn't hasn't just been like five days.
[14:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's been like, Max of one, eight days?
[14:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You kind of look up like travel time and like a rest day is like, yeah, man, you know, I really had to pick up the pieces, you know, and it's been a long hard journey for me just like what is going on.
[14:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, man.
[15:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He asked me to just like, yeah, doesn't change anything for me.
[15:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's like, oh, okay, I couldn't read where he was.
[15:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know who was expecting drama or anything, but he's like, well, I love the way you're handling this.
[15:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, this is great.
[15:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He was like, okay, I wasn't sure what it was going to be, but I ended things with Ovarah, and I just wanted to chase the feelings that I have for you that we had in the pot.
[15:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's very intentional and always mentioning the feelings we had in the pot.
[15:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's never the feelings I have for you now.
[15:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's the feelings we had in the pod.
[15:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He was like, I don't want what ifs.
[15:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just want to be sure that, you know, I follow this and I know what happened.
[15:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And you guys, you cannot convince me of these alleged, very strong feelings that she got overnight.
[15:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, no, but the thing is, it was a lifetime ago.
[15:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They were so different.
[15:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They were different people now, than they were when they first met.
[15:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think she got her phone, right?
[15:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She got her phone, she saw his Instagram, and she said, yep, I want that one.
[16:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then, man, you fact should all these feelings and some strong feelings she had for him.
[16:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Not like she needs any defending, but to be fair, she was already saying this back in, where were they, Zenzibar?
[16:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, back in Zanzibar, like even before she saw him, she was just like, yes, I think it would be, yeah, I guess, I think it would be, yeah, I guess, I think it would be, yeah, I guess, I think it would be, yeah, I guess it would be, yeah, I guess it would be, yeah, I guess it would be, yeah, I guess it would be, yeah, I guess it would be, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
[16:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This would make me wary of Miguel that his feelings are so fleeting.
[16:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He was so sure that it was me Then he was so sure it was clear Then all of a sudden a virus came from here and now you dumped Elvira, which he looks like a DM dumpper Like hitting with color.
[16:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You just sent her a DM saying yeah, I got to go.
[16:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's been nice.
[16:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Thanks But what do I know Brian he proposes to her there and she says yes, so yeah, oh my god
[16:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm fine with that being the end of their story, and it's not.
[17:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I would be okay with leaving it there.
[17:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: True.
[17:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think maybe producers like, well, if you want to come back on their show, you have to promote.
[17:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You can't just come back in date because it's not fair to all the other people.
[17:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And what I don't know, and because I don't understand reality TV culture of the Dutch,
[17:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I want to be on TV either way, and if this is what I have to do, that's fine or is just giving, it's not giving real feelings for Miguel.
[17:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like your feelings are fleeting.
[17:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's like, eh, whatever happens, I people who still know me and my DMs would be flooded.
[17:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, a little bit and I think even more so from her words like if I go out the way that I went out I'm a villain like I look like shit if I don't if I don't fall deeply in love with Miguel and we have you know a perfect life together they're going to give me a shitty at it so like I need to come out here at least fall in true love so I can try to solve or something from this but see everything he just described seems like
[18:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: the American way of thinking for reality TV.
[18:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know if that's the same way for the Dutch, like for the Americans, yes, because there's endorsements, there's other shows you can be on, there's not stuff, but I don't know if there's that many opportunities in Deutschland.
[18:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, I was trying to say Dutch land in the band of the Dutch.
[18:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: My back.
[18:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And so I don't know what influences things like that.
[18:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Or if it is genuine feelings, I just don't know that I can give that to Yasmin at this point.
[18:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like she's a villain to me, and I'm just really pissed off by her and how everyone is just treating this like a kid gloves because if the shoe was on the other foot, and like if a man did that and was moving mad,
[18:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: like that was just like, oh, I saw you, you're gross about it.
[18:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It would be like a bigger deal.
[18:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I needed this to be a bigger deal because just as far as well, you know.
[18:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[18:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, if you had gotten there in the whole time, couldn't stop telling her about how he was thinking to be in with somebody else.
[19:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[19:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then we see him like take off.
[19:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then next thing we see is him proposing to the other woman from the pod.
[19:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, what the fuck?
[19:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This guy.
[19:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like this is okay.
[19:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[19:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So yeah, so that was it for them and I was like okay, that's it little did I know that we're gonna see some more of them I would continue with this story, but I wanted to go in order of how the flies were dropping off from the show So before I do that, I'll take a quick break and we'll be right back.
[19:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All right, and we're back.
[19:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Wait, I think I have My order wrong.
[19:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh
[19:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, I'm sorry guys.
[19:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We are still as I forget that we are still in Zensipar so I The order to have afterwards we are still in Zensipar these people took us to Rotterdam and I was lost But I got on the plane and I'm back in Zensipar guys, so that's where we are still not talking about breakups Because I was like wait break-up yet
[20:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Jasmine Ludo, still in Zanzibar.
[20:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She is trying to find the positive things because if you remember, they had that fight where allegedly she created a scenario, Ludo is like, you, you are just making things up, come talk to me and she's trying to find a positive saying like, okay, the fight helped me be closer because she isn't avoided.
[20:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, the girl just wants to smile and burst things up and let's just move on with her life.
[20:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They have their final breakfast, the couples and the hosts in like, this is a good life.
[20:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They get to go on vacation with these people, spend all day doing nothing and at the end they come up and say, hey guys you're moving to the apartments, was it great for you?
[20:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Bye.
[20:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And get a paycheck.
[20:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right.
[20:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Good for them.
[20:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They may get a point to show us Ludo's shaky leg when they're talking about getting their phones back.
[20:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And much like to show it's really a nothing burger like I think a lot like he's just she it's he says does that all the time Like it's just yeah, he's just very kinetic because like I don't care for getting our phones back like leave me alone Right, so This is what we find out that they're not going to run it.
[21:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm they're going to be sharing apartments in Utrecht Is it right
[21:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And they get there, everybody moves in.
[21:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know if they're all staying in the same complex because it all looks different, but they all have a view of the dumb tower.
[21:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think, um, yeah, and uh, it's just like different decor and each place.
[21:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's a different, I mean, it seems inefficient to build a building that way.
[21:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I don't know.
[21:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: year of man because I was going to say a lack of elevators for a year in lugging lugging those suitcase is like listen if you go to Europe guys the one thing you can guarantee you will hit your steps.
[21:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You are not lacking for that but you will also everything else you have in hand you will be carrying that back and forth up and down the flight of stairs.
[21:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So yeah
[21:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, um, and the only reason I was wondering if they were the same complex is like some of it looked like our equivalent of like if it was like a town alone and some of it looked like a flat-out apartment.
[22:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, you know, but it was around.
[22:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, when Jasmine tries to sage the apartment and hand it to Ludo, and Ludo is like, uh, do I need to take a hit?
[22:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That made me laugh.
[22:20] \[UNKNOWN\]: That.
[22:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's a joke.
[22:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I would make a bit more to it because like me established like she's woohoo and he's like she likes that I love it, but I like no, that's not my thing.
[22:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, it's her birthday so they are meeting her friends and He they tell it's exchange gifts and he's like, oh, I have a card.
[22:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I thought let's just give her the card And she reads it later, but no, it's love is fine Netherlands.
[22:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There is a long letter in there He reads it out loud
[22:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Again, letter number two.
[22:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's been to a popping.
[22:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was like, well, you're just reading a letter.
[22:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why?
[22:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why are you popping out?
[22:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's okay.
[23:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He also gives her a gift.
[23:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He gives her like a bracelet and it has the date of their reveal and it's also touching and I am behind because
[23:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Last I left their relationship.
[23:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was a little turmoil and yes, you're trying to brush it over, but my guard is up for them, but I'm like, this is nice, right?
[23:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Can I just accept this?
[23:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, it's it's all very sweet.
[23:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is very sweet and I don't I don't know what this is kind of like
[23:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We had a fight.
[23:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So the way that I'm going to show you everything is fine.
[23:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like shower you with affection and like sweetness, which it seemed to work.
[23:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But yeah, I did seem sudden.
[23:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It seemed sudden, but also I was inclined to believe it.
[23:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We don't know him enough.
[23:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And as we get further down line, it's like, I'm going to check in with you on what you thought of Ludo.
[23:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because I think maybe the problem is just like he's an intense person.
[24:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: not in it, but everything he's doing seems in it.
[24:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like the right thing isn't clinical.
[24:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I guess is what it is.
[24:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[24:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, you're not wrong.
[24:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It seems, it seems suspect for no reason.
[24:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know if that's going to put it.
[24:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, he's off.
[24:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Not saying that he's perfect.
[24:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think what throws us off is like, when he gets so intense and he starts talking like he's a principal, like, need to do this and then you're like, what's happening.
[24:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know, discipline, principle, militant, militant.
[24:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's the word.
[24:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[24:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That I'm looking for.
[24:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But either way, jazzling is loving this.
[24:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I get to show off a friend of my friends.
[24:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Look at this thing.
[24:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Look what he said.
[24:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: One of the friends is just crying out there.
[24:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, I mean, it's sweet.
[24:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But you just met this man.
[24:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why are you crying?
[24:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[24:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Your friends go nuts.
[24:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[24:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, it's a preview for later on.
[24:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All these family and friends.
[24:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They don't know how to sniff out.
[25:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What is wrong or what is not?
[25:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Everyone is great perfect.
[25:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But you know what we shouldn't complain brand.
[25:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What do we say?
[25:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We always say friends and family support don't bring the negativity it makes no sense But now I'm seeing and I was like you guys are being so easy.
[25:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What is this?
[25:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I hate what I wanted
[25:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, that's why you shouldn't listen to us.
[25:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We don't know what we want.
[25:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, so, one of the friends takes him aside in the speak and he's telling her how is it going, was how was the relationship really and he's like, he's honest, like, I just don't want to be in means to have a kid.
[25:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, I want to be with her, I want to be intentional, but I want our relationship to be unsolive ground.
[25:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like I said, last time that is sensible to me.
[25:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I also can get a read of jazzy.
[25:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: a little immature, but I'm just, why do you want to have kids with someone?
[25:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You don't know anything.
[25:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, because he kind of called her on it at some point, and she was just like, well, you know, it's not just that I want to have kids, if that's what I want to what he got a donor by now, so I'm just like, but that's what you're leading with so much that seems to be your top priority.
[26:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, and I don't want to interpret for him, but what I was getting was, if we build a solid foundation and we're solid, then that comes, yes, absolutely, I want it.
[26:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not saying I don't want kids, I just don't want kids to someone I don't know and I'm not sure that we're stable enough, because again, kids are gonna change the dynamic.
[26:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know, it made sense to me, but what do I know?
[26:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, I figured, I got it.
[26:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: My new and mark picking up from that ridiculous fight that they had where we were so confused.
[26:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she's like, next time, ask me questions versus telling me what to do.
[26:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he's like, I don't think I was telling you what to do.
[26:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't think Mark thinks he did anything wrong.
[26:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's just like, I'm very direct.
[26:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And honestly, I'm not sure what's going on in her head.
[26:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like,
[26:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, okay, after they have the conversation and stuff, and she's trying to be careful with her words, he's not, he's just saying things.
[27:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And when they kind of finalize their conversation, that's some point he, in quotes, jokingly says idiot, and I'm like, I hope you mean yourself, because what?
[27:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right, I would never come off an idiot.
[27:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what that, even as a joke.
[27:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not a funny joke, I'm not sure what he was doing.
[27:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, my mark is a dick because in another instance they're in the house he's working and she comes around and she's just trying to express like, hey, like, you know, he's actually like making fun of her because she's like, you know, be nice to see nice things like I just want cop the man's and he's just like saying, oh, like he's doing a mocking voice.
[27:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's like, oh, he's like nice and well, and I need to say that and then he just caught her off.
[27:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was like, this got them internet connection and she's just sitting there like, um,
[27:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I thought we were talking and he's just like when he finally decides to engage in the conversation he comes to her looks her dead in the end is like it's just not my way it's just not what I would do is just not gonna happen as he stairs her dead in the eye and I'm like what is happening right now
[28:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And this is after she was just like, hey, could you just like have a conversation and not do two things at once?
[28:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And his response, like, no, I can do two things at once.
[28:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's fine.
[28:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, well, I know you can.
[28:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm asking you not to so that I can tell your focus in the conversation.
[28:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what happened with this man.
[28:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, he is an asshole.
[28:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he was like, not liked in the pods, but I didn't think he was a dick, he's a dick.
[28:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, and when I say Ludo is intense, I feel like it doesn't apply when someone like Mark is here.
[28:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just, he processes things differently, he operates differently and is very difficult because
[28:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: part of being in a marriage is you're going to have to compromise.
[28:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You can't think that you're right all the time and I don't think Mark thinks that he's doing anything wrong.
[29:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He cannot communicate.
[29:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's not emotional.
[29:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's not cognizant of anybody else except himself and he's a disaster as a partner.
[29:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, it's not even that he doesn't think he's doing anything wrong.
[29:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It also feels like he doesn't think he's capable of doing anything wrong.
[29:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was like I did it so therefore it was the correct thing so if you have a problem with it You have a problem like it's I don't it says no it's as though this is his first relationship Or it's like I've never had to take somebody else's feelings into a cup before and I don't know what what do you mean?
[29:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I have to worry about how I'm gonna make you feel I shouldn't have to do that
[29:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Listen, I feel like at the reunion, if they're a role-to-take kind of crowd, Mark is gonna be like, so what's the problem?
[29:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What did I do wrong?
[29:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was expressing my feelings, I'm just being honest.
[29:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'd rather be direct and let you know where I stand.
[29:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, but y'all see her, she's overreacting, right?
[29:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's how he's gonna feel about it.
[29:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: uh you're in and Mika um when they get their phones back Mika looks at her phone they're all the both outside and they're both looking at their phone Mika looks at her phone and she just says crying and is bawling you're in does not notice she gets up she walks away she walks away does not notice i thought she got bad news i'm like no if something bad happened the producers would have called her and told her not let her find out why she checks her text um you're in there
[30:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, yeah.
[30:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, I don't does this mean anything or does I don't know, but how do you notice someone is crying?
[30:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, he was talking to her still when she was gone.
[30:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She was no longer there.
[30:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He was so fixated on his phone.
[30:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He had no idea she had gotten up and walked off.
[30:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He was like, hey, in this funny, in this great, all we got our phones back, it's great.
[30:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm just like, she is gone and weeping.
[30:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And like, it was, it was a lot, and that was just like,
[30:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: good to get up.
[30:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's better to go make sure she's all right, man.
[30:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, you're in tells his family that he's engaged.
[31:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's very beautiful.
[31:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm waiting here to be like, are you going to mention that she's black or you texted to them.
[31:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He doesn't.
[31:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, I know he's not.
[31:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm just sitting here because, you know, that was a thing for you.
[31:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, where did you get that from?
[31:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, did they say that?
[31:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, um,
[31:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But then he finally goes inside and she's crying.
[31:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's just emotional.
[31:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Every time she talks about her mother, she just gets emotional and it's been a while since she's seen her mom.
[31:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The one thing I do notice with Netherlands is the whole social media thing was not a thing for them.
[31:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like no one is like, oh, we had mutual friends.
[31:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, we had this.
[31:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So that or like you just saw on the UK, show me your DMs.
[31:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yep.
[31:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We'll see you in the rest.
[31:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right.
[31:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: None of that.
[31:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Which it's surprising.
[31:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I guess maybe it's not a big deal over there where it's not something that is so ubiquitous like it is here.
[31:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[31:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: or the UK.
[31:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, um, when they go back to, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh
[32:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: packing in between and you have to have for different things because she had like they joked that it was like 30 pairs of shoes but you have to have the things that you need for an apartment and it's like, you know, when you live in an apartment and you have to move out and you have to move in, it's just a pain.
[32:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's the worst.
[32:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It is the worst thing in the world.
[32:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I never want to move again.
[32:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I want to retire in this house.
[32:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Exactly.
[32:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: even packing is annoying.
[32:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I travel a bit for work and I'm going to air myself out.
[32:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I am not a comeback and I'm packing immediately.
[32:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm exhausted.
[32:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh gosh, I'm not before I go to bed.
[32:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The first thing I do want to go from a trip is unpack all my shit and bring the suitcase back down to the basement.
[32:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's my husband.
[32:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I drive him nuts.
[32:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think the only thing that maybe kind of inspires me is like I have to travel again and I'm like, God, I have to get all the stuff out again.
[33:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have enough two cases to make me rotate.
[33:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just, it's so painful.
[33:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But my wife had an open suitcase in the room for two months.
[33:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're like, well, I have no trip coming up.
[33:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: next season.
[33:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like right now, it's summer.
[33:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That trip is in full.
[33:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm with your girl.
[33:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I like this.
[33:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't need anything, but I'm just like, all right.
[33:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: My husband tries.
[33:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He walks by walks by and he goes, oh, babe, are you going to move your stuff?
[33:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just know she's not gone.
[33:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's just like, you're good.
[33:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: When you get to it, when it happens, it'll happen.
[33:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's no reason to bring it up.
[33:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's going to sit right here for a long time.
[33:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And perfect guys.
[33:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's my only flaw.
[33:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, um, we see that she thinks that he's messy She's trying to help her help like hold it back, but you know when something's just in your in your chest And you have to let it out.
[33:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, you didn't make the bed.
[33:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, you didn't put the cup of you did this.
[33:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, you didn't do that And you're just a guy like really better get used to this because I'm not doing nothing
[34:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, they go visit his family and, you know, at first I thought it was weird that they meet her.
[34:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She comes bearing gifts like that's how you do it.
[34:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You come with gifts for everyone, but they're like shaking her hand and, you know, again, cultural, I don't know, but they give you're in like big old hugs and stuff and again, I get it.
[34:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They don't know her, but afterwards, I mean, they seem sweet.
[34:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I love the gifts that they gave her.
[34:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like they have a gift.
[34:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was gifts from their garden.
[34:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Funny because he, um, what is it called?
[34:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You don't raise honey.
[34:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He makes honey.
[34:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He makes honey?
[34:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, I guess you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you
[34:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's greeted in his with his bees that he keeps out there and they got like some herbs and stuff or whatever that they grew and I was like, oh, that's pretty nice.
[35:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was a really really nice thoughtful gift.
[35:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They seem sweet.
[35:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: His dad is like, my only thing is like, if he's happy.
[35:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, that's where happy they're proof of her.
[35:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's very nice.
[35:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They like everything the sister says he's he's the chemistry Um, between them and This is basically how all of the family trips go.
[35:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I mean, would rather have that than the negativity So this was nice and you know, it went well What one negative family?
[35:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Just give me one worth of bleached shit show where like as a sister really you can marry this man Or like a dad who's just scowling me entire time or something.
[35:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Give me one of those
[35:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Not the Netherlands.
[35:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Nope, it's a nice way for the US.
[35:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're going to have someone, I'm just a protective about her.
[35:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We've been through so much with the most aggressive boss in action you ever did here.
[35:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's going to be awful.
[35:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, irrelevant genome.
[35:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Honestly, I keep forgetting these people are here and all genome is reminding us is that the feeling of love is not there.
[36:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like it's almost like, in case you forgot, I set that last week.
[36:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The feeling of love is not there.
[36:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I don't know.
[36:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't want to, I don't want you to get your hopes up, but the feeling of love is not there.
[36:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, they do have dinner.
[36:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just want to ask if you noticed that, uh, it wasn't a fork in a knife.
[36:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was a fork in a spoon.
[36:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I did not notice that.
[36:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh my god.
[36:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was so sure you would see because I was enthralled.
[36:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They kept showing it and I was like, I don't think I've ever seen this before.
[36:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Where you used the knife to shovel the rice into your fork.
[36:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He had a spoon instead.
[36:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Or was it the fork into the spoon?
[36:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was going to see if I'd do a mat.
[36:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The fork should be.
[36:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You shoved a lot of the spoon.
[36:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just, this, I was enthralled by this.
[36:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This was crazy.
[36:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Please, just go back and see that and I was like, oh my god.
[36:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is science.
[36:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Wow.
[36:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're talking about introducing friends and family to each other.
[36:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He does not seem enthusiastic, he never seems enthusiastic or anything.
[36:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And somehow, he's able to spin it into, you know, if we're trying to see your family, my friends, my this week, we could get so focused on that and forget about each other.
[37:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And, you know, I think like we should just, you know, space it out and figure out so we can focus on each other.
[37:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She doesn't seem to want to fight and she's like, yeah, you're right.
[37:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, what the heck does that mean?
[37:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: right know that that felt very much like look man.
[37:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't think this is going to go anywhere.
[37:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So like why waste time and you meet my friends.
[37:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's none of this matters.
[37:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: None of this.
[37:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, but it'll be weird if they all meet on the wedding day in his mind.
[37:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's like, whoa, wedding day.
[37:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Girl.
[37:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're not going to have one of those.
[37:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it's not going to happen.
[37:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it's like a roll.
[37:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It would be weird, but
[37:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She always looks troubled.
[37:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's just never at peace.
[37:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's just always looking like me.
[37:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm not sure if it's just her facial structure, or if she's always just nervous.
[37:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, some people just have one of those faces.
[37:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There was a basketball player named George Hill.
[37:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He always looked like he just saw a murder.
[37:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like he had the most worried eyebrows I've ever seen.
[38:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I'm not sure if it says he looks, but she didn't seem happy.
[38:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, I would put this on Gino.
[38:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think in the pot, you know, is the trouble, but now it's just like this is uh, yeah, Gino's just like not keeping her a piece making her feel safe.
[38:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She has a conversation with him and talks to him about wanting physical touch and there needs to be actual sexual chemistry, but she feels a distance.
[38:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is one of my pet peeves on this show is when, again, I say this all the time, I don't like to do homework on my shows, right?
[38:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't want to figure out what are we talking about.
[38:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Are you guys having sex?
[38:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Are you not?
[38:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Are you having sex and there's no sexual chemistry?
[38:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: When you say intimacy or physical touch, please clarify.
[38:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Do you mean sex?
[38:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Do you mean handholding?
[38:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Do you mean PDA?
[38:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: With these two, I don't know.
[38:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I know in Zanzibar that we're like, oh it's there.
[38:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's working.
[38:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're like, yeah, no one believes anything you just said.
[38:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: but now I don't know anything because he seems like he's not interested in her at all.
[39:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So is it that you had sex and then he never happened again or he'd never happened and he wanted to happen.
[39:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's not holding your hands.
[39:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's just so vague.
[39:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have no idea what she's asking for.
[39:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've got no idea and I don't trust them to bring it up at the reunion either.
[39:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what else going on with you, Stu.
[39:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If we're going to have a surface reunion, please maybe just don't have a reunion.
[39:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's going to be so annoying.
[39:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Wait, he's a gentleman.
[39:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Chris Paul.
[39:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, ladies and gentlemen, I have a letter.
[39:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I wrote a letter because I wanted to be sure about my feelings out tonight.
[39:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And a 10 minute musical performance.
[39:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So.
[39:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's like, I hear you, but I can't force it if it's not there.
[39:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But you know what, I might still get there, though.
[39:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's so flipping to about it.
[39:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, he does not care how this is going to make her feel at all.
[39:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, I don't like you, but like, I don't know, that maybe miracles happen, huh?
[39:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I feel like in his mind, he's like, can you not read my body language?
[39:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, do I have to spell it out?
[40:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, come on.
[40:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You have to know that I'm not in this.
[40:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What else do you mean?
[40:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, so I think this is my first time, you know, they have the gold goblets at their signature.
[40:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is my first time seeing the gold mugs.
[40:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because, uh,
[40:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The Netherlands, they drink a lot of tea.
[40:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I saw a lot of tea.
[40:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, I know it's winter, Sweden has had it in the winter before, but I've never seen the Golden Mug and there's always a lot of tea drinking happening here.
[40:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There's a pot squad party that's going to happen and everyone seems to be so worried, not worried.
[40:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Curious about the fact, if Yasmin and Roel are going to show up and then they end that fact with Yasmin and Miguel showing up hand in hand and everyone's
[40:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh my goodness.
[40:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes.
[40:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I will take a break here and come talk about the Potsquad party.
[40:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All right, you're back.
[40:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So Mika seems to know the tea and was telling everyone like, uh, Miguel was reclare.
[41:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then he goes with Elvira and Morella is like, when she introduces herself to Miguel and, uh, Yasmin, she's like, oh yeah, and this is, uh, Gino, I'm still with the same one.
[41:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, cool girl.
[41:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Get in there, get in there.
[41:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: um they ask if Claire knows and they both say no she doesn't know and everyone's like me that's very like she didn't move she didn't get up to say hi she's sticky to her sight like I'm not with this mess that's going on but she's like but Claire and Merella was so close
[41:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: realize so sure that's a no number of yes men and Claire is so close yes men is like Miguel is a lover for like I'll be damned.
[41:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just bet you the other day.
[41:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't care.
[41:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's what the me castments Yeah, the guys seem to me so worried about well like it does he know we don't know Yes, I mean it's like oh, I'm hoping for his mature side and I'm like you just did something dickish
[41:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: stop acting like he's going to be out of a line if he is actually upset with you.
[42:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Walter comes in looking fine.
[42:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He had dimples and stuff.
[42:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I forgot what he looked like, but he looked good.
[42:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then, um,
[42:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, it comes in and it was like, oh someone's here.
[42:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's here and then he says hi to everybody and he does not say hi to Yasmin and Miguel and I'm like, yeah Come with that michy Miguel is like that's so weird.
[42:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's not saying hi at this point.
[42:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm at peak annoyed.
[42:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like what what is real?
[42:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right like you stole his girl.
[42:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's not gonna say hi to you.
[42:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why would you you didn't tell him you didn't say hey, man Like I want to clear this with you first.
[42:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's trying to get none of that Not clear with you first none of them not clear with you first, but inform because it's not like you know These permission only but let you know like this one happened.
[42:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I know is messed up But we had to add to follow my dealing whatever lie, but just inform him say something like yes, you can't fight out here
[43:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You damned Elvira, I hope it's not Elvira, and I'm seeing these girls need wrong.
[43:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, the dubbed version was Elvira, but I also don't know.
[43:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because you're hearing it the way they're saying it in theory.
[43:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm still like, I don't know either.
[43:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know where we talk about.
[43:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[43:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And yeah.
[43:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, you're the one who did wrong.
[43:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And you still want him to come say hi.
[43:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And also, if you want to say hi so bad, it's a whole different.
[43:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you go say hi and he doesn't say hi back, they just sat there and then accepted him to come over that fuck that.
[43:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Go say hello to him if you want to talk to him.
[43:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, so my new clearly picked sides and she's on Yasmin side and she's there talking while Mika's on her side and she's like, this is clearly, and I quote, she's like, this is fucked up, like, who does that?
[43:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is diabolical.
[43:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm with her.
[43:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm glad for well.
[43:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not making things easy for them.
[44:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's like Love is clearly not blind because how can you be loved with me in the pods?
[44:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But you see me in Sully or not?
[44:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like well Get it every time say that every time because she wants to spin it into Oh, he just wasn't there the feelings weren't there, but I need her all to remind everyone that this happened immediately She saw him so yep, yep put around blast.
[44:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Let her one know what happened
[44:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Claire walks in and Mark goes up to Claire.
[44:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was like, hey, let me walk you over to Roel.
[44:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like Mark.
[44:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Something's wrong with this man.
[44:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why are you differently?
[44:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I love I love mess.
[44:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then, I don't know who says it and someone was like, wait, it was Miguel to Walton.
[44:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's like, you and Clara together?
[44:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, maybe with someone else.
[44:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[44:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But someone was like, Claire and New Year together.
[44:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, wait, what?
[44:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is how we find out.
[44:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, do you just couldn't even put something together?
[44:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because they came in separately.
[44:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're not even interacting with each other.
[45:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, okay, I guess I'll just keep up with this.
[45:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Give them a joint confessional.
[45:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I can see them standing together talking about it or something.
[45:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[45:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Big story.
[45:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[45:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All finds out that Miguel and Yasmin are engaged.
[45:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He did not know.
[45:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think Ludo was one who said it and I was like, oh my God, he didn't know.
[45:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just said it and he seemed shocked.
[45:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, yes, he did not know.
[45:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're not talking to him.
[45:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Claire's attitude to all of this is like, I don't need anything from him.
[45:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like if they're she didn't know they were engaged either.
[45:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think Mika told him and she's like, if he likes it, that's fine.
[45:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like it's at hands, wash clean.
[45:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I want nothing with this man.
[45:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's fine.
[45:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Mugger is a walks in and Mugger is there's a one who was bonding with urine, but he had cats and she's like, yeah, I'll try to do this.
[45:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: When they're hugging, we're like accidentally spills her drink and
[45:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, it's the first time up she spells a drink because he bumps into Gino and Mark is like, well, it's the first time he's getting you wet and I'm like, yeah, Mark is uh, yeah, I think that the, yeah, the dubbed version was he finally got you wet neither one of them is good.
[46:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he didn't say once.
[46:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He made you in case you didn't hear it.
[46:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He went back and he was like, you know what I said?
[46:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I said that this is the first time you're getting her wet.
[46:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it's like, we're going to have to get out of your mouth and shouting it.
[46:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So yeah, I got it.
[46:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[46:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And if you forget, this is the same person who kept talking about how he kept my new one piece referring to sex.
[46:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And even when the host came back, he was like, a law, I'm going to get her back in one piece.
[46:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm just like, oh.
[46:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, she's able to walk today still all that.
[46:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, all of a sudden Miguel reacts to the whole Claire thing and saying like, well, I told her like it wasn't working out and we weren't feeling it and that same night when I broke up with her, she slept with Walter that night and I think like this is his ego because I'm like, first of all, I wanted to know how he knew all of these details.
[47:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: How did you know that she slept with him that night did Walter have reached out to him.
[47:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, oh, you have an example of what to do when you are I don't know switching swapping wives.
[47:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know what they're doing and the thing is she's not even sweating him So, what is the issue?
[47:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's not making a scene.
[47:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's not saying you did him wrong.
[47:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You did her wrong or anything So, why are you getting on his echo and then?
[47:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The Spanish temper comes out.
[47:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't like Miguel.
[47:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think you're orange flag.
[47:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't I don't know.
[47:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[47:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know what's going on right here.
[47:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We finally get.
[47:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, at some point before I forget Walton and Claire get to get a go to each other and like, oh, I guess we just say hi to each other and like this is a loss of missed opportunity.
[47:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What are we doing?
[47:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, this is what I'm saying.
[47:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We had all the pieces to make this work and it's not fucking coming together.
[48:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like this is how we're exposing the problems.
[48:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: me to produce a sick of this castle, like, uh, what I just whatever do whatever you want to do.
[48:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We finally get a makeup POV because I think we've seen Yuri and say how, you know, he wants to have sex and you know, but he's going to her face is being respectful.
[48:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I kept wondering, why are we not getting makeup?
[48:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because we were wondering, like, you know, she seemed to be so forward with it, like in the pods and all that.
[48:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she said she doesn't want sex to cloud her decision, like,
[48:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I don't know what she's waiting.
[48:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, until my four days, man.
[48:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, I don't know, I just feel like if you're jumping into something like this, head first, like all those rules though, I wanna wait, I don't wanna, I don't know, all that is different.
[48:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, if it works for you, it does, but I didn't quite understand where she was going, especially when it wasn't that, she wasn't waiting.
[48:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: For marriage, I think that's where I was a little confused.
[49:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, you only have like how many weeks.
[49:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So yeah, I like taking home.
[49:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Two weeks left, two weeks before, I don't know.
[49:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So she says she wants him to spoil her.
[49:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like part of the problem is like he's not like dating her.
[49:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She wants to go in dates and I'm like, okay, I hope you told him because they're very quick to tell everybody else, but the person that they're with, which is what confuses me about Ludo.
[49:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: One thing about Ludo, he will tell you.
[49:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: what he's looking for, what the issue is, we're gonna talk it out, you know, here.
[49:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're in on the other hand, it's telling the guys, like, I'm not getting married and what my caption said and I quote, is if we haven't fucked.
[49:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Exactly the same way it was done version.
[49:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're gonna remember that one.
[49:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was like, dude, you could have said if we haven't slept together, but when you say we haven't fucked a while, I'm gonna do it.
[49:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because if I haven't blown her back out, it is no for me, I'm wedding day.
[49:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, I guess Yasmin and Miguel get to move in because I was like, wait, they're in a hotel.
[49:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This doesn't look like the weird apartment town home, whatever thing it is.
[50:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's yapping about, I don't mind that we're well, didn't come say hi to me, but he bothered me that he didn't say hi to you.
[50:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was like, shut the fuck up!
[50:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't, I don't, I shut up.
[50:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Just shut up.
[50:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He doesn't know you anything.
[50:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Hmm.
[50:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[50:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: wish Royals didn't take the high route again the producers not doing their job talking about I don't want to confront them or talk about it here like I have questions for them but here's the thing he said I have questions for them and then when he found another language he's like well I mean he threw that out the window but no the producers supposed to be like no you need closure you need to ask them now go to both of them right now ask the speed to them but we didn't get anything like that so that was it
[50:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Don't you want to go cuss?
[50:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Just go cuss.
[50:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's what you need to go with it.
[50:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[50:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yasmin is asking about Claire asking Miguel, how'd you feel to see Claire?
[50:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, it doesn't matter.
[50:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The person that should be there that wasn't there, it was over here.
[51:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like why?
[51:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's the person, that's the most recent, that's the person you broke up with, that's the person he even said feelings were involved.
[51:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Clair doesn't matter, Clair doesn't care.
[51:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm going to say it.
[51:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is a moot question, but yeah.
[51:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That was it.
[51:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All right.
[51:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So now I'm just going to go into post-pots squad party with the couples and it's just the breakups really.
[51:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We start with Marilyn, you know, like I said, I usually forget and then when we see them, she looks so worried or they're showing us her making oatmeal.
[51:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's saying he's so dry.
[51:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like he's about to gag and die because we're so dry.
[51:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The man bolted it up to get water.
[51:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was like, ugh.
[51:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not sawdust man.
[51:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Come on.
[51:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, like they just have nothing to show for them.
[51:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like it's just beautiful They decide to take some space and they're like she's like oh yeah, I hope when he comes back He realizes I'm saying honestly now I'm with you know like Do you not see he's like spare yourself stop leaving your fate in these men's hands?
[52:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But when he comes back, he's like, yeah, I don't have to feelings.
[52:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're not, it's not there.
[52:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're done.
[52:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And, you know, she's sad because she was hoping for a fairy tale.
[52:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was like, girl, wish better for you.
[52:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, Gino is not your fairy tale, okay?
[52:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[52:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She put on a brave face until she got outside.
[52:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, that's it.
[52:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But all fell apart.
[52:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[52:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes.
[52:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was like, Gino's a short story.
[52:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Not a fairy tale.
[52:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yep.
[52:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No.
[52:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um.
[52:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm a prover if you will.
[52:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, Mark and my new, um, they meet his friends and you know, I always, no, no, they didn't meet his friends and they tells him that she's fine, everything is going well, but he's worried he doesn't know if that's if she is someone he would get tired of in 60 years.
[52:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: you're not gonna know that about anybody.
[52:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There was not a single person you're gonna meet, but you go, you know what?
[52:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: In 60 years, I'm still gonna love hanging out with you.
[52:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like you don't fucking know, you should be a different person, 60 years from now.
[52:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So like, I don't know what you're gonna like by then.
[53:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why are we thinking about 60 years?
[53:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We don't even know if you get married at the altar and you're gonna be like, if I'm gonna get tired of that, are you tired of them now?
[53:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No.
[53:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So let's ride the wave until that happens and then see what, like, my goodness.
[53:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, let's worry about 60 days for us.
[53:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: How about that?
[53:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: 60 minutes, actually.
[53:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, I mean, with Mark, you never know what's going to happen.
[53:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Right.
[53:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They need his dad and it looks like they have the same sense of humor.
[53:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know that thing, you know, you meet the parents and then you get like, I get it.
[53:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's kind of the same thing and then once again because earlier, I think there's something to happen where she's like, oh, I'm gonna go to the bathroom and so they can talk about it's so natural and organic guys I'm sure they can talk about her.
[53:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So as far as I'm concerned, Mark is just here to look for problems.
[53:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's just looking to poke holes and
[53:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I mean, sorry, I want to mention that his friends were like, it's going well, you have someone you're getting along with, just, you know, make that work.
[53:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: His dad is like, don't get in your head.
[54:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You can usually get in your head.
[54:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's working.
[54:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She seems fine for you, you know, make your work.
[54:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So right now, they're sitting down and all of a sudden, I hear something about her working.
[54:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Much like their fights.
[54:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know what they're fighting about and I'm trying to catch up and make sense of it and I'm so far I'm like, okay, he doesn't want her to work or because she said she has to work and she's like, what are you talking about?
[54:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, what are you even seeing right now?
[54:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We actually, what was your interpretation of the fight because I
[54:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: same as yours.
[54:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This man just likes to blow shit up, I think.
[54:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He just like makes a problem.
[54:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then as it would not, we've huge problem.
[54:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, yeah, because you made a problem.
[54:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This consistently happens with him.
[54:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what's going on.
[54:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I could not explain how we get on to this or what he's been about in the first place.
[54:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then she's like, I'm telling you I have a, no, he's like, I have a fear and she's like, okay, what is your fear?
[54:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he's like, I have a fear that you don't know what you're fucking doing.
[55:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, yep.
[55:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, wait, she does have a job.
[55:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I want to see you guys help me out because I, I would love to tell you what it was about, but I don't know what it was about, because all she said was, I have to work.
[55:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it was like, you're saying, like, you have to work.
[55:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then he says, you don't know what you're doing.
[55:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then she's like, you never fucking talk to me like that.
[55:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, and then she just keeps saying shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up, like over and over and over again.
[55:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, um, confessional now.
[55:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I want to tell me what is happening.
[55:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But no, we're not when I get to come back.
[55:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's wreck it Ralph.
[55:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm just going to ruin everything.
[55:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And like, you're going to deal with it.
[55:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Just like, I don't know what this guy.
[55:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know how he how he operates.
[55:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[55:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Mark doesn't realize that his delivery is terrible, terrible, it is so rude, it's so condescending.
[55:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's yelling at this point, saying like, I don't know why I'm not allowed to say how I feel.
[55:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She just keeps saying, shut the fuck up, and at some point, he goes to the bathroom, he gets a, follows her to the bathroom.
[56:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was like, oh, that's what you do.
[56:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You just walk away, like we have to talk about it.
[56:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like what do you say, if we talk about what?
[56:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Again, I'm still lost as to what they're fighting about, and she's like, I have to leave, like, actually I am feeling unsafe.
[56:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And yes.
[56:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I got it entirely.
[56:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And especially, I mean, you know, not to get on the soapbox, but we're like, all the things that are happening in our culture right now.
[56:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: In that moment, I'm like, I feel unsafe for you.
[56:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[56:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is escalating in a way that's completely
[56:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I thought her choice of words was very appropriate.
[56:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, it was because it was like, I don't want to talk about it.
[56:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he spun it into you never want to talk about stuff.
[56:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She needed to breathe there at this point because if we didn't understand, she probably didn't understand.
[56:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she was just like, you're trying to make it seem like a bum.
[56:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, I had my life together.
[56:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have everything together.
[56:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I'm like, is it that he doesn't want, I'm not going to stop.
[57:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know what it was about.
[57:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We don't know.
[57:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yasmin comes by, I'm like, uh, she and she explains their fight.
[57:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She was like, it was just so shocking how he just blacked out and he just, you know, went dead in the eyes and was just yelling and then he just pulled the plug and that was the end of the relationship and they're done.
[57:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm just upset that she's not the one to pull the plug.
[57:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I am glad that they're done because um
[57:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They don't need to be together, this is the second time he's done this to her kind of like it's almost like he wants to break her down and it's not going to stop and you're picking things like or you're not asking you're not there so you're just looking for things to find that are wrong with her and I don't know I understand that he's unique unique is not always good.
[57:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, he needs peace in your life and I'm glad it's done.
[57:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm just, again, upset that he's the one that had to, you know, pull the plug.
[57:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think what kept them together was, I don't know, maybe the sex because Mark is a weirdo, but I mean, they do say crazy people have the best sex and
[58:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: At some point, I think, I think, um, uh, who was it Miguel and Yasmin could hear my new having sex.
[58:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She was moaning the walls and it was very thin and so I think maybe that's what kept them together because guys I thought that was the end, but they're not.
[58:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: they meet again and I'm like, what for what why?
[58:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because she wrote him a letter and has to read it to him and said all the things like here we go number three and then she's like, yeah, you hit the nail on the head you hit it and then in the letter she's saying things like we should start again if we were to start again we should I'm like, what are you doing?
[58:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'll have some self-esteem next.
[58:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Don't do this.
[58:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Here's the thing, like sometimes people think like, oh, I'm being too harsh and it's not easy when you have feelings or whatever I think you can have two things you can acknowledge that you still have feelings for someone, but you can also acknowledge that it's not the right thing for me to be with you here.
[59:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I think that's where she needs to be.
[59:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, oh, is a roller coaster?
[59:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, no, no, no, no.
[59:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Don't trivialize this stuff.
[59:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not a roller coaster.
[59:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not this, we fund right at Disney.
[59:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, this is your life.
[59:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is what it's going to be all the time where someone's trying to break you down and you're going to out be out there, questioning yourself, walking on eggshells, not being able to be yourself to say, you kept trying to tell him, you're not going to talk to me like that.
[59:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have my life together.
[59:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're not going to make you seem like I don't.
[59:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: having that together.
[59:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So what about this is what you want.
[59:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, oh, you need.
[59:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He makes me laugh so much.
[59:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Go find you get a clown.
[59:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Watch a comedy.
[59:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[59:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right.
[59:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There's something else I can make you laugh.
[59:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There are so many Dave Chappelle standard specials.
[59:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And back in the day, you can watch and laugh your ass off.
[59:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's no reason to be with somebody this because he makes you laugh.
[59:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No.
[1:00:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, it gives you good sex.
[1:00:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because
[1:00:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, you get the nail on the head, but I am not going to need to get on this rollercoaster again with you.
[1:00:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like this is it.
[1:00:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like we are done and he's the one saying you don't see this happening.
[1:00:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Never let a man tell you twice that he don't want you.
[1:00:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, you got dumped by the same guy twice.
[1:00:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That is.
[1:00:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And Mark.
[1:00:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And Mark.
[1:00:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:00:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mark.
[1:00:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: A whole people.
[1:00:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mark.
[1:00:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then she's like, okay, have a good life.
[1:00:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then he leaves her there and just walks away.
[1:00:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, oh, she doesn't seem embarrassed.
[1:00:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think that's the thing.
[1:00:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Again, maybe it's culture.
[1:00:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[1:00:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She doesn't seem like, oh my god, why did I do that?
[1:00:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's just like, hey, I tried.
[1:00:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, no.
[1:00:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, okay.
[1:00:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And that walk off.
[1:00:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He might as well like farting on his way out.
[1:01:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was like, yeah, by, like, never seen you again.
[1:01:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
[1:01:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: point where I was watching everyone, I'm like, wait, what is happening?
[1:01:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Are they seem to be the strongest couple because they were talking through the things?
[1:01:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They were happening things and you know, like going through, you know, the, the, the hopes.
[1:01:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, okay, maybe there's hope here.
[1:01:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, he buys her flowers just because flowers and it was nice.
[1:01:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, oh, they're people out there begging for flowers.
[1:01:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Meca and dates and he's just doing it just because we just why I'm like, this man seemed intentional.
[1:01:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know if it's love bombing.
[1:01:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There's so many terminology is now or if this man just simply cares for her and it's just doing what seems natural to him.
[1:01:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And
[1:01:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He ran a bath for her.
[1:01:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He wanted to take a bath with her.
[1:01:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He tells her the water is ready.
[1:01:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's like, oh, are you falling asleep?
[1:01:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She goes, yeah.
[1:01:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm falling asleep.
[1:01:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's not.
[1:01:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's watching TV light flare.
[1:02:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because he heard just looking, like, can you see me?
[1:02:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Can you see me?
[1:02:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then he's like, should I just go ahead on my own?
[1:02:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, yeah, you should do that.
[1:02:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Just going and I'm like, yeah.
[1:02:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You see, she just sucked it up and just going in the back.
[1:02:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You can nap in the bath, but he was a nice thing.
[1:02:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not saying she has to do it because he did it, but you're getting to know each other, you're short on time, you have to connect, and she wasn't really asleep.
[1:02:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She was watching TV, like, yeah, go to the bath, you know, it's 20 minutes if that.
[1:02:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The waters are going to stay hot forever.
[1:02:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[1:02:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, um, then the next thing he comes in, he was like, where your coat, we're going outside, we're having serious talk, and I really don't want to have this conversation in here, where I do my work, and I want a different environment.
[1:02:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, uh, yes, sir, yes, Sarge, what?
[1:02:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, that seems serious all of a sudden.
[1:02:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, why can we just talk here?
[1:02:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's like, like I just said, we're in the sink to me.
[1:02:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have her tears talk.
[1:02:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I want to talk to you and this is where Ludo misses me.
[1:03:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, I get it, but you cannot talk to someone, you know, like that.
[1:03:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, no.
[1:03:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So they go to their spot, which is at the top of the roof.
[1:03:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Which is why I'm like, are they in different places?
[1:03:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: How come it's their spot?
[1:03:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: How come no one else?
[1:03:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I guess I have that spot.
[1:03:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: he says he's missing the physical connection.
[1:03:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Again, I'm like, I think they're having sex but then he mentions like a kiss, a hug, that she doesn't in public, but she doesn't do it at home.
[1:03:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[1:03:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's not good at all.
[1:03:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're hiding you, what?
[1:03:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right here.
[1:03:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that's the thing.
[1:03:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You remember when I was saying like when he got the gifts and she was like so happy and showing her friends and everything, I think that's kind of thing.
[1:03:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like every time I was reading the letter, she would look, she would see her glance at her friends.
[1:03:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, oh, look at me.
[1:03:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Look at, she's a kind like Instagram couple goals, but at home is like, oh, I need my space to get away from me.
[1:03:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, as soon as you just got recording, you asked your face falls.
[1:03:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're like, oh, I'm still living with this man.
[1:04:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So then she tries to tell them, like, I need to recharge.
[1:04:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, yes, I'm an extrovert, but it drains me.
[1:04:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And when I call home, I need to do that.
[1:04:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And honestly, if you don't understand, then I'm not the one for you.
[1:04:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, that's extreme.
[1:04:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're having a conversation.
[1:04:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Let's relax.
[1:04:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But yeah.
[1:04:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's a fake out.
[1:04:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They talk through it.
[1:04:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They say to give me in the middle, because he's just looking for affection, and she just wants to be left alone.
[1:04:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We've talked about this, Brian, and we've all this leave me alone.
[1:04:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I need space.
[1:04:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not true.
[1:04:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You just, something is missing.
[1:04:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You don't like something about the person, and that's what it is.
[1:04:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I know it's confusing because in Zanzibar, it just felt like, Jasmine just didn't want him to leave.
[1:04:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, I don't want to let go of you.
[1:04:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I would do anything to keep you.
[1:04:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it seems like a kind of thing.
[1:04:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're in the jail and talking other women all the time.
[1:04:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[1:04:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it seems like a character that she would be like,
[1:04:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I don't want this.
[1:04:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It seems like she would do anything to be with him, but I feel like she's just not that into him.
[1:05:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, it's faded for her, I think, and you know, this happens, it sucks, but I think that the moonness of it was kind of was keeping her in the beginning.
[1:05:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And now that it's settled in, she's like, yeah, I don't really like this guy that much.
[1:05:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it's also not helped by the fact that in the dubbed version, the voice actors, we talked about before they have the same cast for every season.
[1:05:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't recognize the male villain voice.
[1:05:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This voice is it always sounds very disinterested.
[1:05:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like the way the way she speaks is like, yeah, I don't know, sometimes that's the way that I am.
[1:05:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's a little bit like if Meredith Marks did voice over.
[1:05:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:05:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This voice, this is something.
[1:05:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So yeah.
[1:05:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So that combined with her just being like, leave me alone.
[1:05:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What's the way for me?
[1:05:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's hard to listen to.
[1:05:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh boy, um, the next conflict comes not long after that when they say they need to do fun things they need to do things together they go, um,
[1:06:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They go for a painting thing.
[1:06:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think it was called a trying to do paint in paint colors.
[1:06:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And, you know, he goes along with it.
[1:06:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, when they said close your eyes, pick a color, look at each other and whatever he picks his colors.
[1:06:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then they say put the colors together so you can do the painting.
[1:06:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But this is where I think maybe there's a little immaturity on here.
[1:06:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He picks, but then she vetoes, no, it doesn't go.
[1:06:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then he's like, okay, I'm not gonna say anything.
[1:06:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're like, oh, don't do that.
[1:06:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But then no, it's not gonna go to get, then it becomes a whole thing.
[1:06:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: When it's like, you have to know when to suck it up and when to let things go at the same time.
[1:06:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So things like the bath, just do the bath.
[1:06:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, you know, it's not like you're required.
[1:06:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not like he said, let's go biking and that requires energy.
[1:06:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's just going to sit in a bath and just if you're into him, you just want to sit there and just lay.
[1:06:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You can still rest, you know, that way, but I guess her complaints is like he always wants to have a deep conversation.
[1:07:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She just wants to do that.
[1:07:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And that that can be a problem if one of you guys loves to talk through your issues and the other person just like stop talking then this is it's difficult to be confronted with that over and over again.
[1:07:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, but then find a compromise like this, I would do this, but if you have any issues or anything, can we table that for later, but let's just like be in the bath and just spend the time in a company, but in terms of anything else, I have no answers for you.
[1:07:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know what I would do in five years.
[1:07:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What I want to do in my life, like don't ask me questions like that, but nothing happens.
[1:07:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's just like that because the person is like, um, asked him to do something and I think she's like, oh, where do you want to start?
[1:07:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he's like, oh, that's the first.
[1:07:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're asking me what I want to do.
[1:07:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Wow.
[1:07:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Thanks.
[1:08:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The past foot dressing this bit.
[1:08:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Ooh.
[1:08:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Don't like that.
[1:08:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, they meet her parents and her mother's parents.
[1:08:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And honestly, a whole lot more family.
[1:08:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There's a whole bunch of family.
[1:08:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Uh, that was out there.
[1:08:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And they start talking.
[1:08:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They sit and it's her stepfather that's on there.
[1:08:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I know I think we said that she was by resheld, but I don't know, but her stepfather is white.
[1:08:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And
[1:08:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Hessec says, my hack for you is don't be too nice for her.
[1:08:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Too nice to her.
[1:08:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She needs someone that's gonna put their foot down, they mention her mood swings and her stepfather, once we got him going was not stopping.
[1:08:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He goes on and on, like when she's angry, when I see her in the morning that I know if I'm staying out of her way, like it's like she has a angry bitch face.
[1:08:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She has that, it's like he's been holding that in.
[1:08:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, they just need to go out, but her sister at least stopped where she kept going.
[1:08:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But my question for you is, should family be this upfront so they know what to expect and it confirms what to do is experiencing or should they play nice and say good things and like to you.
[1:09:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think you have to calibrate it.
[1:09:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think it's okay to sprinkle in a couple of light-hearted things.
[1:09:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like when he was like, yep, don't talk her for 9pm.
[1:09:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, sprinkle in some of that is okay.
[1:09:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: To make it like,
[1:09:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I kind of hate her, and these are all the things about her that are awful, then all that's gonna do is if he didn't have those concerns, he does now, and like it'd be hadn't noticed any of those things before, and now he's looking for him.
[1:09:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm just like, man, pull back a little bit.
[1:09:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Where's her mom?
[1:09:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I came in and shut the fuck up.
[1:09:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, you tried.
[1:09:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But she was like, well, the way I saw it was like, it could go either two ways.
[1:09:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, it come from like he said, it confirmed what he's been experiencing, and like, okay, it's not just to me.
[1:09:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, she's doing this to everyone, but it could also be again, the problem is because they don't know each other right because everybody has All right, everybody in the partners there's different things that people have and it's just like, oh, this is just how she is I just know I'm gonna have a snake or Sparks is angry here you go.
[1:10:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, I just know in the morning.
[1:10:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'll just give her coffee and stay out of her way.
[1:10:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, I just know it could go either way, but it's like okay, but I know what to expect and then if the good outways that we can work with that
[1:10:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So that's why I was torn, was like, don't lie because then it becomes so if she's doing this to just me then that means she hates me.
[1:10:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But if you realize like, this is her family that she really loves and she's doing it, well, can I live with it?
[1:10:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Can I do?
[1:10:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think the problem here is that for Ludo, the good is not outwing this.
[1:10:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because if you do you have lived with it, maybe?
[1:10:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[1:10:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But um,
[1:10:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: much like everybody else the mom is like oh I like him he's so great like you can come to Thailand with us I'm like right we'll hold on a minute now all right like the breaks on the money I'll have discernment between inviting to the family of Chad is crazy but then she threatens him and I don't like when they do that like don't break our heart but he thinks he will hurt her blah blah because this pressure it's already pressure enough to decide and then you're like oh I don't want to hurt you know this person
[1:11:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, when his mom comes by Ludo tells his mom his concerns and I don't know why I found it funny But he was just like they tell me don't talk to her in the morning because she's not a morning person Don't talk to her when she's angry don't talk to her after 9 p.m.
[1:11:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: When is a good time to talk to my wife?
[1:11:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right
[1:11:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: because the mom met her and it was like, when she's so nice, they get along.
[1:11:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I approve at this and they go to the site and he's like, well, this and the mom is like, oh, oh, and I'm like, yeah, y'all don't have any discernment at all.
[1:11:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, they have a conversation again at their spot.
[1:11:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The whole, I need my space comes up again.
[1:11:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I just, when this comes up, I like Katelyn, maps, all this stuff.
[1:12:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You think you're gonna get married and then be separate.
[1:12:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[1:12:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not saying you should be joined that the hip.
[1:12:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just don't understand what the visual is.
[1:12:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: When they sign up for these shows, where's not even a case of that you've dated for a while?
[1:12:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You don't know this person.
[1:12:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This person's expected to have a partner.
[1:12:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And you just think, I don't want to spend any time with you.
[1:12:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And they'll be like, you know what?
[1:12:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You got it, dude.
[1:12:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm going to stay away from you.
[1:12:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:12:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: In the short, let's go.
[1:12:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Can you have time that we have this draw this tape line down the middle of the apartment?
[1:12:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You have your side.
[1:12:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I have mine.
[1:12:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, I don't understand.
[1:12:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I wouldn't I wouldn't want that.
[1:12:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But if I if I got that from my partner, especially on a show like this, I would feel so rejected right away where it's like, all right, this is not going to work because you don't want to spend any time with me.
[1:12:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You've never want to hang out.
[1:12:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then you must not like me very much.
[1:12:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, and the thing is, I don't even know, I can't explicitly say, oh, Jasmine's wrong, Louder's wrong.
[1:13:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, I don't understand Jasmine, but just because I don't understand doesn't mean it's not a valid thing.
[1:13:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I, whatever she wants to, it's not for me.
[1:13:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't want to be with a partner where we are separated.
[1:13:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It works for some people, great.
[1:13:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But not for this show.
[1:13:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think it's the caveat that we're missing.
[1:13:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And when Louisa's talking about it, Louder was like,
[1:13:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: How can I be begging you when I come back from home?
[1:13:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You don't say hi.
[1:13:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You don't say hello.
[1:13:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can't get a hug or because she's like, because I need to recharge.
[1:13:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, what kind of recharge means you can't say hi.
[1:13:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The high is going to deplete you back down to zero percent.
[1:13:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know if I say hi.
[1:13:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I am like with a pass out.
[1:13:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like I might not make it.
[1:13:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that's like, again, I've got like, you know, comments in the past where we've talked about something similar because I mean, I guess this comes up all the time and maybe it is normal and some people are just like they do need their space, which is why I'm saying like just because it's not for me doesn't mean it's not valid, but I think I just want to understand, I, is it so draining like even if it's not my spouse, if I lived with someone, I would say, hi, I'm not gonna walk past them.
[1:14:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:14:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If it's your spouse, I think it's very easy to come and say, hey, give a quick kiss and be like, I've had a real a real rough day.
[1:14:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I need to go lay down for like 15 minutes and recharge a little bit.
[1:14:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know anybody who's spouse, but like, no, you can't do that.
[1:14:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I think you have to announce that you can't just walk in and like, stiff arm him in the face and then like vanish for the next hour or whatever.
[1:14:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, but then it also means that the relationship is dependent on them and their move and when is it and the other person has to wait for a schedule like, oh, can I come say, hi, oh, can I come see this and at the same time, if you need to recharge if the other person needs the company who wins.
[1:14:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it's just a piece of incompatibility.
[1:14:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're just not.
[1:14:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, compatible and this says I'm done.
[1:14:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, I'm not giving you what you need.
[1:14:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're not going to get it.
[1:15:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm packing my things.
[1:15:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm done.
[1:15:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it was the longest I'm done.
[1:15:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's like, wait, what?
[1:15:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't think he believed it.
[1:15:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she's like, so it is what it is.
[1:15:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm done.
[1:15:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, that's it.
[1:15:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm done.
[1:15:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, okay.
[1:15:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I think she's done.
[1:15:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that's it.
[1:15:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Those are three couples that are done, does stand and done.
[1:15:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: See, I'll never,
[1:15:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, so yeah, so the last two couples are Yasmin and Miguel and um, you know, mark balances, right?
[1:15:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Don't you think Miguel looks like him just without hair?
[1:15:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I could see it.
[1:15:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, that's a lot of thing.
[1:15:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, so we learned more about Miguel.
[1:15:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's again, another throwaway, because I don't think this show is completely well produced.
[1:15:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're spending their first night together, Miguel and Yasmin.
[1:15:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And, you know, they're talking about, oh, I make a mess.
[1:15:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says, I make lavish meals and making meals.
[1:15:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's not helping and he sits on the couch and his laying down is like, yes, not gonna help And then he tells us in a confessional like he thinks the success through a relationship is, you know, he's old fashioned all like he said I'm an old soul like I like how it used to be between a man and a woman in may not work for others But it works for me.
[1:16:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So very clear.
[1:16:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is yeah, yeah
[1:16:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Uh-huh.
[1:16:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Uh-huh.
[1:16:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Uh-huh.
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[1:16:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Uh-huh.
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[1:16:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Uh-huh.
[1:16:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Uh-huh.
[1:16:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Uh-huh.
[1:16:25] \[UNKNOWN\]: Uh-huh.
[1:16:25] \[UNKNOWN\]: Uh-huh.
[1:16:25] \[UNKNOWN\]: Uh-huh.
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[1:16:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Uh-huh.
[1:16:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Uh-huh.
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[1:16:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Uh-huh.
[1:16:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:16:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I got questions.
[1:16:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[1:16:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Anyways, um, they meet their friends.
[1:16:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're two, each of them bring their best friends over here.
[1:17:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Miguel doesn't have any family.
[1:17:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He claims she didn't say claims.
[1:17:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is like Matt for masks.
[1:17:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He claims that they all left at the same damn time.
[1:17:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They had a meeting and they were like, we are leaving and everyone's back here.
[1:17:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't want my laughing and they all have to say that so he doesn't have any family here So they meet this friend and he's friend is from Morocco Morocco He says the coolest Moroccan in town or whatever.
[1:17:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, oh That's a weird designation What I thought was I was like I didn't understand why he had to mention where he was from I just you have a friend.
[1:17:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, but why okay?
[1:17:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, so then they do the whole separate.
[1:17:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Let's talk about things.
[1:17:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yasmin is like, yeah, like, the, the, the friend is like, do you think you're both on the same page?
[1:17:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And Yasmin is like, hmm, I think I'm more into him, but also I put him through stuff.
[1:17:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I dumped him.
[1:17:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I came back so I'm gonna give him all the time that he needs.
[1:17:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, how long do you intend to pay for your sins?
[1:17:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because that's not a good page to start on.
[1:18:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, the friend and Miguel and his friend are talking.
[1:18:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The coolest Moroccan in town.
[1:18:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he's just like, yeah.
[1:18:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: casually too.
[1:18:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't think I was expecting the red connection is not there.
[1:18:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The attraction is not there.
[1:18:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know me with women and I'm all over there were and he said that we're eating each other but not this like one time we went beyond kissing and he didn't say that but it wasn't the tip of his tongue.
[1:18:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He was like yeah it didn't click like it's like yeah I didn't like that.
[1:18:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's nothing, but here's the thing, you have the advantage, I guess, or privilege of seeing her before you commit everybody else didn't see the person.
[1:18:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So if that was if that was a thing, you didn't have to propose.
[1:18:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You could have just said, I'm with Elvira, like, you know, feeling good.
[1:18:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Let's go on a date.
[1:18:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Let's go on a date and see where this goes.
[1:18:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You didn't have to go.
[1:18:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right off the bat.
[1:18:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right.
[1:18:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, all of this.
[1:18:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm just like,
[1:19:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not clearly he's physically attracted to her.
[1:19:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think there's something, well, I think he was when he first saw her because if not like, she doesn't know you have a ring.
[1:19:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You have to propose it all.
[1:19:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This was, I think I almost feel like he was coming to the realization while talking to the world's coolest Moroccan.
[1:19:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're just like, yeah, no, everything's, huh, everything's bad, I think, turns out.
[1:19:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I don't think it's physically attractive to her.
[1:19:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I, that's why I'm saying like, I don't know what the culture is, like reality TV-wise.
[1:19:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I do think he wants to be on camera.
[1:19:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I do think he feels like being on camera would give him the opportunity to have flooded DMs afterwards, whichever way it flows out.
[1:19:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He doesn't care if he's a villain, like whatever.
[1:19:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He doesn't care about that.
[1:19:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, he's not really a villain, but yeah.
[1:19:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[1:19:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But yeah, so he that was it and the friend was like well you guys are good match.
[1:19:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you should make it work because his friend had the pronunciation when he picked him up from the airport that your journey's not done it's not done.
[1:20:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, what would happen if it was done, you know, right, well, it's not done could mean Elvira like they could be a lot of things.
[1:20:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, um, they have like a conversation where he tells her,
[1:20:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: you know like you know we're working through it like I'm not quite there basically her conversation we were well but Miguel is telling her the same thing and she's like oh what do you need do you think you can get there and he's like yeah we can get there and he's like he has the audacity to say they've been through a lot what have you been through?
[1:20:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: you've been through zero things yeah but well well well oh my
[1:20:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: um, they have like a final date.
[1:20:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not officially a final date, but they're in a hot tub and it's still most on romantic hot tub date ever.
[1:21:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're there, they're separated, not even a kiss, a handhold, and it's just two people sitting in the tub and that's it, and it was like one of them.
[1:21:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, yeah, nothing happened.
[1:21:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, Mika and Eurion.
[1:21:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They talk about their needs.
[1:21:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She talks about her wanting to be romance, dating, all the stuff.
[1:21:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He wants to have sex, but he says it's in a nice way, not like, you need to fuck before you get married.
[1:21:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Otherwise, I'm saying no.
[1:21:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, and then she's like she just needs the affection.
[1:21:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think he listened like she agrees that we're both not being heard We're both not me getting our needs met But I think he listens he comes home.
[1:21:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He brings her flowers just because flowers and in my mind I'm just like so is it because you're listening or is it because what do I got to do to get in the bed like like right?
[1:21:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's drum your map
[1:21:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, they meet her family, her uncle, her mom, her younger brother.
[1:21:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I keep wondering if the incident is going to come up.
[1:22:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not going to come up.
[1:22:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not one judge.
[1:22:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm so mad.
[1:22:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It didn't come up.
[1:22:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Of course, it's not instead.
[1:22:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He agreed.
[1:22:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is a good match.
[1:22:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We love you.
[1:22:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The brothers like this.
[1:22:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What are we calling the babies when I'm like, right?
[1:22:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, I do like that the mom shouldn't quite say.
[1:22:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: When you give me grandchildren, she actually asked them, like, oh, I don't know.
[1:22:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Do you guys want kids?
[1:22:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I thought that was really respectful.
[1:22:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[1:22:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're in a like, no, not yet.
[1:22:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're going to practice first.
[1:22:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, that was inappropriate.
[1:22:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Don't sit to her parents.
[1:22:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, there's a brother.
[1:22:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There's a brother too.
[1:22:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You.
[1:22:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So there.
[1:22:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: On the next thing we see is Uran and Mika and Yasme.
[1:22:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Sorry, Uran and Miguel and Yasme and Mika are shopping for toxes and wedding dresses.
[1:22:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, Miguel, what you doing?
[1:22:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Right, what are you here, what are you here like at this point of unless it's being paid extra to just hang out there what are we doing you are clearly say you know, yeah, you're you're not making it to the wedding if you do shame on you, but you know what brand we are watching a couple the last time in couple with a man said I didn't black women so nothing is impossible, yeah.
[1:23:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is true.
[1:23:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Can you imagine we go into decision day on the wedding day?
[1:23:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We have one couple left and he's like, yeah, you're just so black.
[1:23:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So like, no, what if you've never gone another one to get, huh?
[1:23:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I didn't even bring it up.
[1:23:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I forgot, but I mean, they released statements.
[1:23:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Mecha was like, you know, like it was uncomfortable.
[1:23:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And they had shared moments.
[1:23:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I don't, I just think there's nothing you can say.
[1:23:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:23:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: about like, this is just nothing to explain it, to say it.
[1:23:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're in also sad stuff, but and not for nothing.
[1:23:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We don't again, we have not heard from the Dutch delegation.
[1:23:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is a country still has Black Peter.
[1:23:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So like we can't ignore the fact that race is a weird thing in Netherlands, apparently.
[1:23:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like I have a lot of these festivals.
[1:23:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Tell people what Black Peter is.
[1:24:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Black Peter, he's like Santa's servant or some shit.
[1:24:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It is literally like a big black face festival where black Peter is like a really beloved figure in the Netherlands.
[1:24:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And you just have a whole lot of people going on a parade in black face.
[1:24:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I don't think this is weird or a problem.
[1:24:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So like it's just part of a beloved tradition.
[1:24:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I would have some words to say.
[1:24:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, yeah, they sent Peter, yeah, it's very weird.
[1:24:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, it's you have a black slave as like part of your just part of your like fun traditions.
[1:24:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
[1:24:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I, I'm just wondering like, I guess you can't have one couple that's never been done, but from Yale to be the one and for them to even allow him to tell the friend that it's something is missing and we're supposed to be invested in that.
[1:24:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[1:24:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If it's canceled season, yeah, honestly, don't care if it's just hand it and be like that.
[1:25:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:25:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Or just, I don't know.
[1:25:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then we have yet another unclear fight.
[1:25:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, so Miguel has planned like a date.
[1:25:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's like a fancy thing, it's like a hotel.
[1:25:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're gonna stand, they're all in the places.
[1:25:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't understand where they are because they're in there.
[1:25:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's like, oh, I'm gonna be tired.
[1:25:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, oh, you need to wake up.
[1:25:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I need you tonight.
[1:25:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't move to having sex now.
[1:25:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I thought we're we have no idea but I'm not wasting my brain cells on that because they're making us work too hard.
[1:25:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So they're outside, they're having drinks and then he says like, you know, when I was at the resort in Zazbar, I wanted to devore you, but now devore you, but now things have changed because of certain things that have happened.
[1:25:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm screaming at my TV.
[1:25:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What thing happened?
[1:25:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then she says, if you're still stuck on that, I've moved past it.
[1:25:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Move past what?
[1:25:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right.
[1:26:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Seeing missing, what happened here?
[1:26:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, this is so great.
[1:26:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We've run professional.
[1:26:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're someone explains what you're talking around here.
[1:26:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I thought it was the incident.
[1:26:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I'm like, wait, that was at the pods.
[1:26:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It wasn't at the resort.
[1:26:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So what happened?
[1:26:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, then he goes, I'm not sure if I if I if I if I can make you happy and then she's like, oh, you're concerned about that.
[1:26:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And if you're concerned about it, I'm making me happy right now like we're in different wavelengths.
[1:26:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, wait, wait, okay.
[1:26:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, I don't even know where I wear my body catch me up.
[1:26:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then she says, like, I know this experiment, we have such a short time, but I also don't think this is a short time.
[1:26:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, if you still have doubts from two weeks ago, so whatever happened was two weeks ago, then we haven't made progress and I'm like, this is so unfair to us.
[1:26:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, yeah, I made us listen to all this monologues and the letters and then now we, I would listen to a letter right now.
[1:27:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you told me what was happening and now I'm confused.
[1:27:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I would watch you guys sit down and write a letter.
[1:27:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I had no what's happening.
[1:27:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: These could be caught up on
[1:27:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then she's like, well, I'm not going to go to the altar with someone who's having doubts and I'm leaning to a taking a step back because I'm sensing doubt and I'm not going to do that and I'm done and then she walks away and then she cries in the confessional and I'm like,
[1:27:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But wait, no, everyone else has quit.
[1:27:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They have to finish their day.
[1:27:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They have winning one couple because the next thing we see, they're all dressed up.
[1:27:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's bullied a chair out.
[1:27:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, wait, she said I'm done.
[1:27:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, we're Blash, we're supposed to just catch up with them.
[1:27:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He apologizes for just focusing on just what isn't working, then they start talking about the things that are working, we can communicate, we have fun together, and she's like, yeah, with that being said, I love you and this man looked like he had acid reflux.
[1:28:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He gets so flustered.
[1:28:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He tells her I am flabbergasted that is so sweet of you to say, um, yeah, I's widened and to be continued I guess.
[1:28:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, he might as well said, thank you, like you said, stay in situation.
[1:28:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Do you need to fake out?
[1:28:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I think you think he's going to say I love you back.
[1:28:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I do.
[1:28:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I do.
[1:28:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think that they want us to think that they want us to have this conversation.
[1:28:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, he's going to say it and this is much to do about nothing.
[1:28:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, Ryan, let's make predictions for all two couples.
[1:28:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: All two of them, huh?
[1:28:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, there it is.
[1:28:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, well, Miguel is saying no.
[1:28:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think we can read that Miguel.
[1:29:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Miguel might not make it to the altar.
[1:29:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Just give us out the Africa god dog it's right let's just get to that you know what just rerun the Brazil old folks will watch at this time Like this is dumb This is dumb.
[1:29:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is our punishment for not watching Brazil.
[1:29:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know we just released
[1:29:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: the flight because it's not we haven't gotten we haven't had a good sense France yo like France knocked us up for our socks and every since then we have not this just what you get for not bringing Mexico back you know I love me some Mexico and as long as they get rid of that silly game at the at the reunion yeah otherwise Mexico was perfect yeah yeah but anyways
[1:29:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: lighter.
[1:29:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're not doing 9 on its own because we might not even have any couples, but we'll do the reunion and let you know what the happened at the wedding.
[1:30:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I saw tears.
[1:30:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I mean, I cried out of boredom and frustration, but
[1:30:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If I don't before we go, paging the Dutch delegation, like the... Yeah, talk him.
[1:30:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you're a lot, talk it.
[1:30:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Or if you don't, someone clocked them in, we got questions, please, because the producers aren't giving us anything, professionals giving us nothing, we got to get something out of this, you know?
[1:30:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So... No idea what's happening.
[1:30:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And also if you like Netherlands or if you rank it high, I'm not saying like it's terrible again it has all the things, but if you like Netherlands or let me know what it is that you know you like about it and I'm curious.
[1:30:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, okay, Brian, let people know when they can find you.
[1:30:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yep, I host maps version.
[1:30:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We are covering the boss in the season.
[1:30:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I made it for a site.
[1:30:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It is a complete disaster everything hilarious.
[1:30:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So you can listen to us there.
[1:30:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: follow us on Instagram and threads at MAPS version and then join our Facebook group MAPS version fan club.
[1:31:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Especially if you want to see how scary my house looks for Halloween.
[1:31:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I have a lot of pictures like PS House for Halloween on our Facebook site.
[1:31:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It is impressive.
[1:31:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I threw down.
[1:31:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, to that.
[1:31:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gotten, it's gotten bigger since then.
[1:31:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I bought some little tiny like lanterns for all the ghouls to hold.
[1:31:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So it's all good up a little bit.
[1:31:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like twinkling light, little bit of the yard now to it's very next.
[1:31:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Nice.
[1:31:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, I forgot to mention at the top of the episode.
[1:31:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm sure people are already clicked out by now, but if you are going to be Rob has a podcast live viewing of survivor the DC showing I will be there.
[1:31:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So let me know and let's say hi to you guys in person
[1:31:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, next Wednesday, uh, for the survivor.
[1:31:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All right, guys.
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