# MAFS S20 Ep. 6: Different Warmth Lengths w/Raven

An episode of [Tayne Talks: A Reality TV Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1522401890), 29 Jul 2026, 1 h 34 min.

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Raven from Bitch is Better Podcast joins me to discuss the latest episode of this drop where the couples are back in Seattle and we are introduced to the experts sessions. Listen to find out why this didn't help me in warming up to Dr. Paz. Can you guess who got our bouquets and ashes? Get bonus episodes on Patreon on documentaries, MAFS content and reality shows like Sister Wives and 90 Day Fiance. Different levels are available - a tier to listen to episodes ad-free ($3), a tier for bonus episodes ($5) and another to listen ad-free, bonus episodes and get regular episodes early ($10) Join the conversation in the Patreon Community Chat and on Instagram, Twitter, Bluesky and Threads - @taynetalks Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

## Transcript

[0:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Hello everybody, welcome to another episode of Tain Talks.
[0:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I am your host, Tain.
[0:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Here to talk to you about maps, married to Forsyte, season 20, episode 6, and I have a guest, the solo episodes are done guys, I am home.
[0:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And my guest is none other than Raven from the Bitches' Better Podcast.
[0:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Hi, Raven.
[0:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All right.
[0:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Tain.
[0:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So happy and excited to be here, but you're so episodes were very good, so yeah, they were great, so I'm happy to be here and talking to you about this.
[0:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes.
[0:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Thank you.
[0:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And you know what?
[0:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm glad that you're still watching mouse.
[0:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know, I don't think I've got to get it.
[0:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If people are for against this whole new format, I know we're getting a lot of eyes, but, you know, everyone's talking about, I know you've always watched it, but I'm glad that we didn't lose you.
[1:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think that's a better way to say it.
[1:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay.
[1:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, if anything, like, I think we've talked about it the one hour episodes.
[1:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, you've fully got me back.
[1:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because there was that one season I didn't watch with, I guess, the cheaters on there.
[1:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, because I was like, I cannot, I think I quit 90 day piano and say if that same time for that same reason.
[1:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And so I was thrilled about this.
[1:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They got me.
[1:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not
[1:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, yes, I mean everyone's talking about merit at first sight.
[1:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Again, it's what I went in it's happening now and I'm like, is this what I went in?
[1:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because no, I don't think we can get crazy.
[1:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, it's the only reason why I'm questioning it is like people who are just watching.
[1:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I know making all this comment and it's like guys, you gotta start from the beginning, gotta get the history, don't just say things.
[1:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If you're just starting to welcome you, but speak like you just got here, don't speak like you know.
[2:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, right, you know, yes, I hate it.
[2:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Just be like, hey, just to practice this, like, I don't really know what I'm talking about.
[2:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just started watching this show.
[2:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's how I am with Big Brother.
[2:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, I don't know what's going on, but I'm having a nice time, you know, but I would never speak with authority about it.
[2:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I can't.
[2:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, guys, we are going to get to match, but I do have to ask as a newbie to Big Brother.
[2:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: How are you feeling about this season?
[2:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think I'm having fun, I'm having fun.
[2:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm going it.
[2:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[2:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The only thing I have to compare it to is last season.
[2:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because that's when I started.
[2:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know, it's like very silly.
[2:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I know that I guess there are some people who only watch the live feeds.
[2:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it almost sounds like that's the better thing to do, but I don't.
[2:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't think I can do that and like last season any time I would like randomly think about the live feeds and go look at it it was like an aquarium or something like it wasn't even on and that would piss me off so I was like forget it.
[3:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm just going to watch what they show me on TV and someone will tell me other good stuff that I need to know I guess.
[3:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That means something good is happening and they don't want you to know, I don't like the eats.
[3:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I really don't.
[3:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just listen to recaps and get what's happening on there.
[3:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But the reason I ask is because I know a lot of people are pissed about the icons, that's D, Devons, and uh...
[3:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Did I go blank?
[3:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm going to be.
[3:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Angela?
[3:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Angela?
[3:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Coming back, and then like you're taking over the game, they already have their shot.
[3:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Usually I'm that person, but I'm not going to lie, I love it.
[3:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I love it here, I love that they're taking over the game, I love that they're getting all the power, because these newbies don't know how to play.
[3:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So maybe if you have someone there, you keep whining about the fact that, oh, they're here, they're taking over, do something, there's more of you guys.
[4:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I understand it so I don't know that child is curious like for some of who has no investment during anything like is it still is a point no I like it I guess I just thought that they always brought people in or something because they brought Rachel on that last season Right, I was like, oh, they just been bringing people on here.
[4:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know You guys this is a metaphor for life.
[4:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If this is all you know You're fine.
[4:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, the more you know the less content you are that is so true
[4:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They didn't bring her back.
[4:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, all right, we are going straight into my at our first site and it is moving day.
[4:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We have left Mexico and we are back in Seattle and the Peacop money is showing guys because the apartments look a good rate.
[4:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Ooh, so nice, so big.
[4:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[4:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So big though, but they didn't give them two bedrooms.
[5:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, that's what I was gonna, that's I had a question about that with, yeah, you know, the couple.
[5:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, yeah, the couple.
[5:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But yes, they didn't, and they're like, you guys, you're going to get great countertops, great space, luxury penthouse, no second bedroom for you.
[5:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You would sleep on the couch.
[5:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you would sleep on the couch if you want separation.
[5:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: For those of you who are curious, the apartments are called a level of apartments.
[5:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're in South Lake Union, for those of you who live in Seattle, I don't know.
[5:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And something I always do is compare when they do same cities.
[5:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We'd love is blind to see if they stay in the same place because they had a Seattle season.
[5:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: For love is blind, but it's not the same.
[5:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: For love is blind, it was the Madison Valley town homes that used for that.
[5:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So for those of you that care.
[5:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So this man Adam.
[5:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Adam Adam is hanging up his jet ski.
[5:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, no, did jet ski keys that he gave to Marissa?
[5:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, you would've put that up there.
[5:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right, babe, babe.
[6:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, no, I do not want the jet ski key hanging off the corner of the TV.
[6:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Take that down now.
[6:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's such a good sport.
[6:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Cause I'm like, no, I'm taking that down immediately.
[6:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's not gonna work for me.
[6:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And you have to cool it with a jet ski talk, seriously.
[6:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I agree with you.
[6:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, I shouldn't laugh.
[6:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm part of the problem.
[6:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I shouldn't laugh at this anymore because it's not normal.
[6:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It cannot be normal to be this obsessed with jet skis.
[6:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No.
[6:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What's going on?
[6:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What's going on?
[6:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What do we miss?
[6:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What?
[6:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's his entire personality.
[6:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it's like, OK, we got it.
[6:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We know.
[6:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Does he have a tattoo?
[6:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It might be somewhere we can't see it.
[6:49] \[UNKNOWN\]: Oh my god.
[6:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm curious, I can tell us.
[6:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, we'll ask her in a few.
[6:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: In case you think we're exaggerating, she merissa asks him, like, what is your day going to be like tomorrow?
[7:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's like, probably good work.
[7:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then go jet ski.
[7:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So it doesn't matter what you say, he'll fit in jet ski in it.
[7:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: to see I thought he would jet ski to work.
[7:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Since he has a car, but he barely uses it because he just gets to jet ski everywhere.
[7:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why isn't he like a jet ski instructor or something?
[7:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, that's true, you know.
[7:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then he gets to tell people what to do too.
[7:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, jet skiing all day every day.
[7:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Caitlyn meanwhile is freaking out over the fact that the plants are real like this is really a big deal to her But Devon poor guy.
[7:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He just mutters under his breath.
[7:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's a red flag You know first one to have him.
[7:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We know what plants did.
[7:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I love island.
[7:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So
[7:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, Caitlyn, she's just her attitude is so stank and I don't understand it.
[8:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I should, I don't, what did the plant do to you?
[8:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, it's not even yours.
[8:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
[8:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You didn't buy the plant.
[8:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't, if it dies, it dies, whatever.
[8:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, you're not the only person living here also.
[8:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, yeah, it's fine.
[8:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's what the red flag is.
[8:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like salt when it actually dies or if he complains, but pre-sulking about the fact that, oh, I'm gonna kill it, it's real, I don't have time for it's too much.
[8:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not a gorgeous apartment that you don't have to pay for the next two months and you're like, okay?
[8:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: A live plant can't be bothered.
[8:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's so good.
[8:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay girl.
[8:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Belgiumian mecca unpacking in the closet and I guess all seems to be well for a percentage world what?
[8:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't want to move on what happened somebody tell me what happened like last I saw 150 80 86 20 what she said I would never do this for a man I'm pulling back and now we're all good I don't like it I don't
[9:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, we gotta go back to it.
[9:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We have questions.
[9:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mm-hmm.
[9:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Nick is asking Courtney if she's interested in trying restaurants.
[9:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He says, listing some places.
[9:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, oh my god, oh my god, that's my dream.
[9:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's my dream to say less.
[9:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Say less.
[9:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, relax, you just ask about restaurants.
[9:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She can't relax, Tane.
[9:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's one thing about her.
[9:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She cannot do it.
[9:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Her energy is so unsettling to me.
[9:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't like it.
[9:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I would compare her to Kim Richards.
[9:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like I really, and like, oh, no.
[9:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Very out of it.
[9:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're making me uncomfortable.
[9:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, no, I'm anxious.
[9:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, my anxiety is activated when she comes on screen.
[9:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Or she's talking.
[9:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What do we, nothing's happening, but we're anxious.
[9:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What's going on?
[10:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, go ahead.
[10:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, go ahead.
[10:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, it's gorgeous.
[10:01] \[UNKNOWN\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:02] \[UNKNOWN\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:02] \[UNKNOWN\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's gorgeous.
[10:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: like, wow, what is that like?
[10:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We just met her.
[10:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Right, because that's immediately where my mind went to.
[10:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was like, why is she kind of those cucumbers like that?
[10:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What are you doing?
[10:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She said before I could.
[10:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She did.
[10:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She had no clue what you were talking about.
[10:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then he says like you know we were the airport for a while and you know we didn't get to sleep it was like my nightmare and y'all know I already have beef with him because he's all like I want to run I don't want to do this I want to go away and like we're going with this then it was like but the thing is it was fun hanging out with you like just laughing just chilling like it was nice and she's like same and that made her day and
[11:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I know that it feels like low bar guys, but guys, I have 20 seasons of PTSD and I have to give him props for actually noticing that he had a good time and letting her know.
[11:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because they're quick to let them know when you're not fun, you're boring, there's no spark, there's no that.
[11:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So when we have nice things and we share with our partner, I am going to give you props because it's been bad guys, so you know, that was sweet.
[11:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: it's been really bad and that just is a nice thing to hear period, right?
[11:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because travel is like that it can be very stressful and it's like attired, I gotta attitude, whatever.
[11:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So if you're enjoying your time together during like some shit like that, that's good time, that's great.
[11:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I would like to hear that as well.
[11:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, because sometimes it's the little things, you know.
[11:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It is.
[11:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[11:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So he says Mexico was amazing, but he can't wait to live with her in the real life and make sure that she can talk to him.
[12:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She has a good day, she has a bad day, and she's like, this is how I pictured Mary like.
[12:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, yeah, I'm happy for you.
[12:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's rough out in the streets.
[12:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mm-hmm.
[12:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's just rough out in the streets.
[12:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mm-hmm.
[12:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I want to add though that all of a sudden Cameron does a confessional in this confessional ribbon.
[12:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: like this cream slacks or joggers or whatever he was wearing.
[12:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And for the first time, I was like, okay, camera, you might see the vision.
[12:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, my foot's not mirror.
[12:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, yes, okay.
[12:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So he does say that he's excited to see how they navigate this and he wants her to feel taking care of and he feels strongly about her already.
[12:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They have their first dinner.
[12:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She compliments his dimples, which I've never seen.
[12:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It could be the beard.
[12:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've never seen it.
[12:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But here in a lot of dimple talk and not see in them.
[13:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And that was it for move in.
[13:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So all the couples have moved in and that was the montage that we got.
[13:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So now I'm going to go into each of the couples.
[13:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And we're going to start with Mr.
[13:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Reality TV himself and working.
[13:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Just so I can get out the way and have good eye my life.
[13:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes.
[13:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, you know, the always looking for activities to do is because they don't like each other.
[13:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, let me take that back.
[13:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: let me take that back.
[13:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why are you taking it back?
[13:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because he might have a chance, but she don't like that man for nothing, but he might be open to something happening, but I think he's also like, what have they given me?
[13:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is an experiment that I don't want to participate in, but I'll be saying.
[13:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm sorry.
[13:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, they absolutely did they're doing a wall sit challenge and I mean he loses at this point I don't even know if Nick lets her win because he doesn't want to deal with whatever's gonna happen if she loses like just a good point So we can end and move on
[14:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We get introduced to what they're calling expert sessions, where they each sit with an expert, and the only rule is honesty, and they're able to talk things out.
[14:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm not mad at this.
[14:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is not from the international version, from MAPS Australia, because so far that's what they're doing.
[14:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're picking things from Australia, but they don't have this.
[14:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I'm just wondering, does this mean they're not going to make house calls anymore?
[14:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Just come in and sit here, office hours,
[14:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We need the house ghost.
[14:36] \[UNKNOWN\]: Bad.
[14:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I'm curious about that.
[14:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm also wondering how they decide which couple gets which expert, which has always been the case in previous, but previously we had three previously.
[14:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They kind of rotated previously the double team, both of them we show up.
[14:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But now they have won each.
[14:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They get paths.
[14:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, I'm calling her paths.
[14:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And yes, in the past, I've always said put some respect on their names and say pastor, doctor.
[15:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know this woman who's new to me.
[15:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's on probation with me.
[15:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I'm a call of a path.
[15:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Respecter.
[15:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was all too fast.
[15:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I can't decide.
[15:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't think I like her, but I'm given her another minute to see.
[15:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Do we for both of us?
[15:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've decided because I've tried.
[15:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We are an episode six.
[15:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I have tried.
[15:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, I'm like, you want to be a harsher in this woman, but no, this solidified it for me.
[15:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I, not a fan, not a fan, guys.
[15:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm sorry.
[15:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Not doing a great job.
[15:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, I don't know.
[15:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The advice that she's giving him, like, really?
[15:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay.
[15:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She seems still too excited to be on TV and like act like this is your office.
[15:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, maybe this is what she does in her office, which is not a good selling point.
[15:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, but some people, you never know.
[15:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I want to do who, I want to do who else applied for this job, who else she ran against and she got the job.
[16:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is like the matchmaker.
[16:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know why I'm confused.
[16:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's never interesting.
[16:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Anyways, they get passed and Courtney shares how the wedding couldn't be more perfect and it just took a moment to digest that they got married as strangers and they're very similar.
[16:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like okay and I'm glad Paz says how?
[16:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: How are you similar?
[16:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like yeah I want to hear this too.
[16:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says they are good at communicating cap.
[16:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says they're both
[16:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're just saying shit, like none of that is true.
[16:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Are you, is that really how you take Nick out of it?
[16:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You really think that about yourself?
[16:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You don't communicate well at all.
[16:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're talking shit about your husband to the other negative Nancy and how you hate him and you want to kill yourself and all of this.
[17:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You do not communicate at all.
[17:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Wipe the opposite, girl, as she was rigid.
[17:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Up until the year ago, she didn't even have fast food.
[17:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You can't believe back if you're not putting toxins in your body.
[17:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Thank you.
[17:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Thank you.
[17:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I don't know.
[17:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then Nick Chimes in, I think Nick is like, I don't think this is true, but he's like, well, family is super important to us and you know, we're both active, you know, we're healthy, but they don't solve convinced by their voices.
[17:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're looking at each other and passing again.
[17:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Wait, and this is what I like to call conversations and question marks.
[17:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's when that began because if a past says you guys are feeling compatible to let's each other, don't we?
[18:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not just me off, like everybody means to cut the shit right now.
[18:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That work has needed to come in and be like, hey, this isn't going to work if we're not being honest.
[18:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, and at this point, you're wasted my time, too.
[18:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So let's start over and answer honestly, Courtney.
[18:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're feeling compatible towards each other because I saw where you said you wanted if you had a quarantine with head you're gonna shoot yourself or something like that like multiple times she said that's crazy That is a crazy thing to say Hmm But instead what does pass say it's great.
[18:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm so happy to hear Well She needs to calm down too
[19:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We saw, I keep saying it.
[19:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We saw how she told Mecca that he was matched.
[19:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She was very excited, just like all up in there and I'm like, girl, stop being excited and let's be the expert.
[19:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They can't be your friend.
[19:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I guess is what I'm trying to say.
[19:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're right, right.
[19:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's the thing.
[19:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She wants to be in it too much in the wrong way.
[19:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mm-hmm.
[19:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Quentin says, well, the thing is, I like physical touch, but it takes a lot for me to get there and it's like a feeling.
[19:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then passes like, have you been intimate?
[19:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're like, oh no, any kissing, any touching.
[19:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They say no, not a lot.
[19:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, so then brethren, how are you compatible?
[19:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, where is the compatibility, guys?
[19:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, Courtney's like, oh, fourth thing.
[19:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She keeps referring to Nick as fourth thing.
[19:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like fourth thing.
[19:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm sure he's like, what the fuck?
[19:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's like, I wonder if you're attracted to me.
[20:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, I'm not entirely sure.
[20:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, you do?
[20:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You wonder, girl, you said he had bubble goods.
[20:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: When he was covering you, what do you think he's gonna think?
[20:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Exactly.
[20:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: How would he know?
[20:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You haven't told him.
[20:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: These couples are not in reality.
[20:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't care about perspective that we're seeing something different.
[20:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm so confused as to what is happening.
[20:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So she says she can stop talking because she's like, The thing is I want you to be real and I'm like, I just don't want to be in bed cuddling and then it's like, thinking, I can't wait for him to get off me.
[20:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Will to get the fuck off me.
[20:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, so far.
[20:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes.
[20:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[20:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, he's right there.
[20:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know, like, why would you say that?
[20:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like now you want it, I guess because she's gotten herself going and she can't stop talking, but I'm like, shut up, like you don't have to say everything that comes to mind.
[20:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Now you're doing too much.
[21:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That was, that's just mean.
[21:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes.
[21:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes.
[21:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I would have a hard time forgetting that you said that.
[21:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was hoping Paz would be like, okay, let's like be mindful.
[21:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I see.
[21:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, be honest, but there's someone here who has feelings and, you know, just be careful what you're saying.
[21:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And the thing is when she says things once, it's not just once.
[21:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's going to say it over and reiterate the point where it becomes hurtful.
[21:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So Paz is like, so what are you feeling?
[21:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, um,
[21:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't she's like she's she calls important thing again and I'm like you can't keep saying that to your husband No, she's like that's how I felt on the honeymoon.
[21:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just didn't want to you know cuddle him She says she's not used to having to being around the stranger and like what should I do should I kiss him like a hundred times?
[21:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then by the hundred then I'll be used to it, but I just feel like there should be passion.
[21:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not there.
[21:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like oh
[22:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She just still, and she will not stop talking.
[22:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She just keeps going, and her overthinking is so crazy.
[22:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's like the way her mind works, I'm like, oh my god, are you all right?
[22:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I just have to get some 100 times and then do this and do that and then what if it's not enough?
[22:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What if, and then do I just touch them like, you need to just be normal.
[22:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't even know what you're talking about.
[22:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And neither does Nick.
[22:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't think she knows either that train has left the station normal.
[22:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What's that?
[22:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Off the rails.
[22:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Round it.
[22:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[22:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Pass asked, what are your turn-offs?
[22:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She was like, oh, he's not the most handy man.
[22:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And, okay.
[22:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like it's not the worst thing in the world is people you could call to do stuff like Focus like it's so in this trip as was like, that's Really?
[23:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Can't change the light bulb and Nick was like, I can change the light bulb.
[23:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not an idiot.
[23:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's the expression.
[23:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And like that's not even handy.
[23:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like I don't think everyone just knows how to use in espresso machine like
[23:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Sorry, you didn't marry a handy man.
[23:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[23:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Maybe you should have put that at the top of your list and I think that's the thing with her that I have a problem with is like she's not giving him a chance.
[23:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Another thing where when you see something you don't like, you know, like, okay, but he makes up for it by being kind, like he's not being a douche to me.
[23:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like, He can't do that.
[23:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're not Felipe get out of here.
[23:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, that I didn't appreciate that either.
[23:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Not to go back to that episode when I'm like, Oh, I wish he could just be silly and just like this, like Felipe like Get away from Felipe first of all.
[23:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: to believe in a second of all Nick is like that.
[23:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't even know what you're talking about.
[24:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What are you saying?
[24:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's got a big personality.
[24:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[24:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[24:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The light is the light is dimming his eyes though.
[24:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Even if he's just sad, he just sat there.
[24:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, can I talk now?
[24:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, you want me to talk now?
[24:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, I'll talk.
[24:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It is, it is, um, they ask him his turn-offs and he's like, oh, I haven't even really thought about it.
[24:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And this is where he's doing himself a disservice, say it over thinking.
[24:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Say like just all the things that she says a mile a minute and she's not being like thoughtful, or mindful about the thing she says about me.
[24:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[24:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, don't say you haven't thought about anything.
[24:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he, but he does say that he wishes there was a fleeting warmth.
[24:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's not there.
[24:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And that's like, yeah, that.
[24:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Sure.
[24:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's gonna answer in answer.
[24:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, okay.
[24:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's true.
[24:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like Steve Harvey.
[24:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Show me.
[24:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Get your.
[24:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh my god.
[24:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like.
[24:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It has calm down.
[25:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Damn.
[25:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He does ask, um, this is Nick.
[25:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He asked Courtney, like your past relationships, like, how worthy, like, we're, was there physical, like, touch?
[25:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Was there affection?
[25:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Once again, she goes into a whole barrage of words and like, I don't know.
[25:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Maybe I was.
[25:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know if I did.
[25:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, the thing is, my parents didn't even see it.
[25:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I didn't even see them, like, hold hands or something.
[25:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I thought I was loving.
[25:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, maybe I'm not, I'm, I'm, I want to see it.
[25:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think she glitched.
[25:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: but she wasn't done.
[25:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, she wasn't.
[25:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She wasn't.
[25:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, I feel like I do that, but now I'm in my head, but now I'm overthinking.
[25:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like, if we go out, do you want me to like put my hand here?
[25:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She puts her hand on his lap.
[25:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it's like, but if I remove it, do you think like, oh, I didn't do it long enough?
[25:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Is there a time limit?
[25:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Is there something, I don't know, maybe I'll once or twice the same warmth?
[25:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, wait, even I didn't know what was happening.
[25:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And they both left her.
[25:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They both kept quiet and were like,
[26:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why does your mind work that way?
[26:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You are making this so much more complicated than it actually is.
[26:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're has to be.
[26:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[26:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Have you been in a relationship before like, I'm just so like I'm so confused by her.
[26:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If I put my hand there and I take it away, was it not long enough, would you do what?
[26:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's not timing you, so he just wants to be touched and flirted with.
[26:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's simple.
[26:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's all.
[26:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's all.
[26:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Making a confession is like, this is wild.
[26:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I have never been in this situation like this before.
[26:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, I just want something natural and she's overthinking everything.
[26:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But she doesn't stop again.
[26:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I thought that was it.
[26:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says, no, but for real.
[26:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Do you want me to leave my hand there?
[26:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, hey, I'm not a loving person.
[26:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's talking to herself at this point, I guess.
[26:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, and passes like yeah, I think maybe the fun likeness has not sparked yet and Nick is like you're just trying to put rules where they're no rules like I didn't ask you to do anything and then passes like so you guys maybe try to develop your own rules of affection and be intentional about non sexual types of flirtation like kissing him on the cheeks and hope you had a great day maybe to try and neutralize the block that she's experiencing
[27:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then she says, like, yeah, I think I can do that.
[27:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If I know that it's something that will not lead to sex, I think that'll make me feel a lot better.
[27:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, oh my god, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
[27:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not even like he's pressuring her to do not at all, not at all.
[27:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Where's that coming from?
[27:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Her own man, you hear a spiraling?
[27:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She has that many stuff up.
[28:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is hilarious that run through her head.
[28:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just, I can't even imagine.
[28:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[28:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, but she's sleep.
[28:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And Nick looks like he's dissociating because he's just there just like blanks there because if I were him all I'm hearing is like you're giving her homework on how to show me affection when the key thing is she doesn't seem to want to do it on her own that's what we need to address
[28:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She don't want us is not saying anything about it.
[28:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like now if she does it, it feels like you told her to do this and knowing who Courtney is, well, pass says hold your head kiss your cheek.
[28:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I'm doing that.
[28:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Is that okay?
[28:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Does that work?
[28:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All of the things up of the list.
[28:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So once I finished the list, Nick, do I do it again?
[28:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Or is that did I?
[28:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I did it.
[28:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I did it.
[28:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But it's like also in the conversation when they talked about like,
[28:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: some past relationship or whatever their issue is like what would you do if you're like on the couch with the guys She's like yeah, I would lay on them.
[29:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I would do this and that so like you do yeah You just don't want to do that with Nick Yep Exactly one that I think we should be talking about because also she says she went at the passion So if the passion is not there what is he going to do?
[29:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just think she already has the egg The kind that you can't come back from I still maintain that the only person that has come back from the egg is Jamie from season one
[29:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, never had it again.
[29:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was an anomaly.
[29:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I don't see how this is going to happen.
[29:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is going to continue.
[29:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But on the flip, do you think Nick likes her?
[29:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because I don't see.
[29:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He does either.
[29:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's just so much of a character that he gets lost in the shuffle.
[29:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, he doesn't like her.
[29:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I think if she wasn't so how she is, he, you know, he's open to trying
[29:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But she's not given a method to work with.
[29:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So he's just like, whatever.
[30:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What's the next show I'm going to go on?
[30:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's the next show.
[30:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Which of the other wives would you have matched your neck?
[30:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Maybe Marissa or Michelle?
[30:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think the other ones would do.
[30:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What do you think?
[30:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think I would have given him a Caitlyn.
[30:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, really?
[30:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I think she, I don't, I feel like Caitlin don't want to be with nobody.
[30:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's why I don't know what her deal is.
[30:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think she wouldn't be, but I would be curious to see how she would react to, I'm not saying that Devin is Needy, but he does require like attention.
[30:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He has said that he has abandonment issues, so maybe it is attached too much for her, but Nick, I would have been curious to just see how she reacted to him.
[30:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: in that way.
[30:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think Marissa's one of those people who gets along with anyone really.
[30:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So yeah.
[31:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It sounds like a bad thing, but I don't mean it that way.
[31:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I don't know.
[31:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's why I was like, yeah, Marissa.
[31:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, it's for she's just going to smile away through it.
[31:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[31:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I think it was a worked, but yeah, but Courtney, Courtney, I still think I would have been curious to see her with Adam.
[31:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That I want to see.
[31:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Not my been too much energy too much.
[31:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'll have to fast forward through them, I think.
[31:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think he would have stunned her into silence.
[31:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think he has this aura which I see Marissa doing, wanting to please him and wanting to be in his good graces.
[31:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I would want to see Courtney.
[31:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think Courtney treats.
[31:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She treats Nick this way because she doesn't feel like he's her equal.
[31:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: crazy as it seems she's in.
[31:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's not missing.
[31:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's not this, but if she sees Adam and she respects Adam and things old he's a man.
[31:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, he's whatever.
[31:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm curious to see how she'll act that way.
[31:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He should be buying for his like approval.
[31:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Not affection approval is what he's so romantic.
[32:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, I'll take a quick break and we'll
[32:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And we're back.
[32:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Let's talk about Nikki and Sean.
[32:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They got my ashes last time because I just they're exhausting.
[32:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They really are.
[32:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like going through their bullet point conversations, their PowerPoint, their circle back, per your last email, type talk.
[32:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just, it's a lot.
[32:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And this is another two that don't, I wouldn't say they don't like each other.
[32:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're just not compatible at all.
[32:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[32:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[32:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I've had just about enough of them.
[32:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're making me tired.
[32:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have nothing to do with this.
[32:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's always something.
[32:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[32:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And Sean, I don't know.
[32:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't have a single positive thing to say about him.
[32:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He turned me up immediately.
[33:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's just like,
[33:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: the way that he flirts and like brings up sex every chance he gets is like very juvenile to me and to me that would be like a major turn off and he just like keeps doing it and I'm like she don't like that stop it and maybe you can get somewhere and he's like no she wants me she wants this it's like I don't think she does
[33:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's not confidence.
[33:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But okay, yes, it's delusion, like, okay, Sean.
[33:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Exactly, you know, I don't know.
[33:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he seems to be his attitude as a little, oh, I don't know.
[33:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's a combat of man, he's a combat of man.
[33:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, I've no reason at all, but yeah.
[33:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You said you took the words right out of my mouth because I was going to say like the minute their names flash in the screen.
[33:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, Oh, God, like we have to go through this because you know something happened because she looks pissed immediately that I was like, Oh, God, what now you guys, like, Dr. Best is giving that Sean guys Dr. Best is giving a toast.
[34:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So then moving in together and saying even though it's been a long day, we should enjoy our first night together And she's cherishing but her face is not cherishing at all and I'm like, oh, we're gonna get another flashback guarantee
[34:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: like something must have happened again because every time something has happened and I'm like the team of course something happened because she doesn't get off the chair she leaves off the chair and goes to the couch and she's laughing and saying ah that this is I mean disbelief
[34:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We do get a flashback finally and he was like the way having the cutest time at the airport.
[34:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says, but every day, there's some conflict that hits her like a ton of bricks.
[35:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like, yes, we have to watch you guys every day and I don't understand the sequence because he said, I'm going in, let me know if you need anything and then he comes out in a room.
[35:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: him in this robe, I cannot take him seriously.
[35:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm telling you, what's his name again?
[35:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like that I said, what is married to medicine?
[35:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The guy your name is is the fox or Greg?
[35:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, he reminds me, it looks like that's so much.
[35:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, that's not good.
[35:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So then she just goes straight to him and is like, you know what, you are more of a problem than I am.
[35:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And today was evidence of that.
[35:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Instead of, okay, this is not going to take us in the direction of a productive conversation.
[35:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just said, the attack.
[35:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's you, not me, just so just so we're clear.
[35:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What is it?
[35:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, finish you.
[35:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, it opens the conversation with me.
[36:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's crazy.
[36:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You can't want to produce a conversation and start with that.
[36:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know, you're a problem, even more than me.
[36:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Hey, that's.
[36:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, well, the conversations have been very volatile and I don't think it's one sighted.
[36:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's both of us.
[36:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Now, he's being very calm, but I hate it.
[36:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I call it the Joe button, calmness where you do something crazy.
[36:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're saying something crazy, but you think if I'm seeing it so calm, then you're the problem and I'm not the, I hate it.
[36:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I hate it too.
[36:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: as he knows he's doing it too.
[36:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she knows about the thing is we all know.
[36:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you're not fooling us, okay?
[36:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not acting like this for no reason.
[36:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Don't piss me off because we didn't see whatever happened in this airport.
[36:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes.
[36:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then it's like, but we made a commitment seven days ago.
[36:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is our first test.
[36:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, it's not.
[36:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, it's 14.
[37:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, you have a lot of testing at this point.
[37:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And you fail.
[37:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: even when we're upset, we're gonna find a solution and she's like, you're nasty.
[37:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, you have this one upman ship thing that you're trying to do.
[37:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, okay, tell us what it is.
[37:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, we've got to get to details and then he's like, he apparently, so they're doing a he said, she said type of storytelling.
[37:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So he says, like, you know, no, she tells us that he said, like, I'm the grounding one in this relationship, you're disorganized, you're crazy.
[37:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then he says, then she was standing over me and saying, now you're calling me crazy.
[37:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he was like, I don't mean you're crazy like psycho or a certifiable way.
[37:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, what way is a good way to call someone crazy?
[37:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Thank you.
[37:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, don't, don't do that.
[37:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You called me crazy.
[37:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And so that's going to piss anyone off.
[38:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The law didn't mean anything.
[38:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, you did.
[38:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can't.
[38:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Stop talking, so she says, then he said, oh, now you're tawing over me, I'm sorry.
[38:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I say laughing so hard.
[38:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Me too.
[38:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I was like, were you two just kind of standing next to each other?
[38:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's not what I was like, like, stop trying to make her and she said, it's not trying to make her like, was big scary bitch, like stop it, towering over you.
[38:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She can't help but that you're five, six.
[38:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What do you want her to do?
[38:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: everybody towers up for you, but hello you're used to it that's why you're so mad
[38:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then he goes, now you're the aggressive one, and she's like, no, I'm not.
[38:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm trying to diffuse the argument before it escalates.
[38:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, this is the second season where we're calling another black woman aggressive again.
[38:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's an argument, but she has seen offended by it.
[39:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I'm like, you know what, if she's not mad, I'm gonna let this go because they have bigger fish to fry over here.
[39:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then apparently she stormed off in the airport and he went
[39:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's just, hey there, hey there, oh well, can't find me anywhere, like, where were they doing?
[39:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Were they in the Delta lounge?
[39:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Were they just out like, where, like, no, that's all of you, man.
[39:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, you know what, that's a good point.
[39:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She went to the world up the lounge because it couldn't get in.
[39:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So she went into the lounge and she could get in there and she could get in there and she could.
[39:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And that's what happened.
[39:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then he says, luckily we're in the same flight as opposed to what?
[39:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Of course you're on the same flight you idiot.
[39:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why would that be what separate flights?
[39:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Also she's a grown woman.
[39:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's acting like he like lost his child.
[40:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like he would be fine.
[40:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And also I was just wondering like it seemed like all the couples took different flights.
[40:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like where was everybody else?
[40:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I needed another account of this fight, but he looked like they were all separated I guess.
[40:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, we're one of them lives in Portland.
[40:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So maybe I forgot about that.
[40:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That is so stupid.
[40:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Nicholas and Austin, so there's that too.
[40:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So even worse, we're not doing
[40:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: making a TV show, not for love.
[40:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So he says it feels bad that she felt like he was judging her.
[40:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You were absolutely judging her.
[40:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You called her crazy, said she was disorganized.
[40:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You said you were the grounding one, implying that she's not grounding in his MS. You were absolutely judging her.
[40:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he says he doesn't.
[40:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, he doesn't.
[40:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then he says he was just repeating back what she said today before that people said she was crazy, which is not no.
[40:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Nope.
[40:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Nope.
[40:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Nope.
[40:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Don't do that.
[40:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Hmm.
[41:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No.
[41:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If someone tells you something, you're not supposed to use it against or repeat it back or say it back or whatever.
[41:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she does clarify.
[41:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I did not say that they said I was crazy.
[41:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I said that people said I was a lot.
[41:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Which, let's not even clarify.
[41:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're grown enough.
[41:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You are 47 to know that don't say that.
[41:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Don't be madly.
[41:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, it's nasty.
[41:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And good like getting her to open up to you like after you get past this if you do, you know, because when they were talking about something with her like past relationships, she said something and he was like, okay, well, like, what, what exactly and she was like, well, not going to tell you all that right now.
[41:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm just trying to tell you, you know, this high level thing.
[41:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And so now.
[41:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's told you she's a lot and you threw that in her face and called her crazy.
[41:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You think she's going to be vulnerable or anything like that with you again?
[41:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're doomed.
[41:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're cooked.
[41:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's what I was saying.
[41:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But roasted throw it in the trash.
[42:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, she says like, you know what, the ownership piece on your part is significantly lacking.
[42:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's not called to speak again.
[42:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he says, well, you know, I knew it being a husband.
[42:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I don't think I'm very good at it.
[42:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But you know, if you're acting in middle of a conflict,
[42:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So can we agree to stop the conversation now?
[42:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And Nikki's not having me.
[42:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's ready to fight.
[42:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's starting to fight in words.
[42:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's going to go into it.
[42:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, no.
[42:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The minute I disagree with you or I challenge you or I call you out, that's all of a sudden, now you want a resolution.
[42:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You don't get to control when we stop or when we start, we fight to the death.
[42:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she said, and I'm not losing it.
[42:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, we need help from the experts and you know, I'm going to ask you to sleep in the couch and he's like, I will do whatever makes you comfortable and she's like, all right, I'm going to go to bed.
[43:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, okay.
[43:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think she's more annoyed.
[43:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like the whole calm thing.
[43:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I know he's trying to be like, oh, I'm not sure, but I know that's probably making her even matter.
[43:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Absolutely.
[43:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: At this point, but um, is this the same space?
[43:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Can I say that I don't understand the whole sleep on the couch thing?
[43:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like I understand this because their stranger is or, I mean, I don't know, you don't know this person.
[43:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mm-hmm.
[43:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm not mad at my husband.
[43:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The bed is big enough.
[43:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, I can give you the cold shoulder.
[43:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Go, like, specifically on the couch.
[43:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't, I don't get it.
[43:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't either, because that's not going to make me any less angry, right?
[43:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm so sorry.
[43:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So no sense in your back hurting or whatever the next day they're mad and then it's like, I don't know, it just feels, I don't know.
[43:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's got to be something like major.
[43:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I feel like if I'm asking you to sleep on the couch, I'm going to be like, you need to get out.
[43:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, you need to get out of the house.
[43:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, like I don't need you around completely here at all.
[44:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, it's a fight not like, oh, our marriage is over.
[44:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're done.
[44:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right, you're still coming back to you.
[44:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Just so why I'm going to fight.
[44:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I don't get any
[44:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know, but that's when I was like the couch.
[44:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She really means business.
[44:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Can't he sleep in the second room?
[44:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I was like, oh, I guess they just don't have one.
[44:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm, I'm, I'm not at all.
[44:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But the way he was acting was so normal.
[44:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's just like, OK, I'm going to get some sleep.
[44:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Let me just go get my charger.
[44:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, oh, this is so weird.
[44:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, tell me my things.
[44:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then he said, she's like, oh, my God.
[44:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I might grab some underwear and some stuff in the morning.
[44:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, can't you just get it now?
[44:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't want you like rummaging in the closet in the morning.
[44:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, he's time to just grow.
[44:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, yeah, I'm like in my shoes like now.
[44:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: My stuff isn't the closet.
[44:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm going to get in the morning, but this is still confusing.
[44:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Even if he wasn't on the couch, if he was in the bed and he wakes up earlier to go to work, he still has to get stuff in the closet and get all the things that he wants.
[45:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So what is in the bathroom, what are we doing?
[45:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes.
[45:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes.
[45:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's all that is.
[45:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's serving the audience.
[45:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's like, no, I'm not giving you that.
[45:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'll sleep on the couch.
[45:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'll do, but like, no.
[45:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[45:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's the end if you boss and me around.
[45:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she's like, oh,
[45:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Guys, get out of here.
[45:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, bring it another couple.
[45:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, it's good.
[45:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, it's good.
[45:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The marker misery.
[45:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, Nick is theories that because I told him that I'm not physically attracted to him, that exacerbated his insecurities and now he's ratching it up and trying to humble me.
[45:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't think so because I think he doesn't believe that she's not attracted to him.
[45:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, he's like, that's bullshit.
[45:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's been, she's slipping me some tongue.
[45:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's doing this in that, like, she wants me.
[45:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, I don't know what her problem is.
[45:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[45:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't think that's it.
[46:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know what his deal is, but it's not that.
[46:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I don't think that is either.
[46:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But she's like, yes, we've had a few kisses.
[46:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They were nice, but that doesn't mean I want to go.
[46:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean to bed with him and have sex with him.
[46:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, she's in her rope too now.
[46:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I get like, I don't know.
[46:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know.
[46:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This rope, man.
[46:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The ropes.
[46:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know why they're so funny to me with their eyes.
[46:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, dealing from what the other Mexico is.
[46:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're the only couples who had the robes on them like for where they're trying to relax It's like they should be so like Coleman relax and they are just pissed and these fluffy robes He's my way Well, Dr. Bass goes to bed on the couch sleeping in his robe.
[46:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There were no photos He was being so weird.
[46:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why did he later like that?
[46:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Maybe he climbed to the bed after the camera.
[46:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's just like, oh, Nicky would have beat his ass.
[46:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's like, I told you, you sleep on the couch.
[47:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I feel like that's the kind of thing he would do.
[47:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He was like, no, my back hurts.
[47:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I have not done anything wrong, like, you know, I deserve a side of the bed.
[47:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You can't tell me a grown man, but who knows?
[47:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He did see it on the couch.
[47:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But anyways, it will be a miracle.
[47:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is episode six.
[47:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If these two say yes on decision day guys, like I told y'all, Sean is on Tamio.
[47:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If you'd like a cameo from Sean?
[47:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, what?
[47:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I didn't check the, oh yes, he is.
[47:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I didn't check the cost.
[47:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I keep forgetting.
[47:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But you got to be kidding me.
[47:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The best is on campus.
[47:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What if?
[47:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Who are you?
[47:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's older, judged, admonished, go ask him to give you a cameo.
[47:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He also posted pictures with his hair.
[47:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I guess female besties and giving them a shout-out for being there for him, for helping him move to his house and in my mind, if you have your wife, you're not gonna need a female bestie to help him move, right?
[48:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No.
[48:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I believe that would be a not married.
[48:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Also just find out that he just moved from New York to Seattle a year ago.
[48:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know when this was filmed.
[48:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But hopefully he lived in Seattle then.
[48:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's been working out eating on seasoned food and he's down 15 pounds now.
[48:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's what he said.
[48:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It wasn't me.
[48:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He said it's good.
[48:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, I don't know.
[48:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I didn't look like she was celebrating with him, not like no, but I just think they're not together.
[48:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I hope not.
[48:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know how they could get to that point.
[48:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He needs to be that is so crazy who's paying for that.
[48:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's like, oh, maybe someone who's confused and thinks that I'm past her cow and they're like, I'm not saying that that's funny.
[49:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She tells him that she appreciates him giving her that space that she asks for and somehow he drag Michelle and Obama into this.
[49:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Saying like, you're two sons and a solar system, it's tough being two sons, but I'm happy to let you be your son.
[49:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's just something to the sand shed.
[49:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then next we see them getting ready for bed and the bathroom.
[49:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Sean does a quick wipe, quick, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab, dab
[49:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, what is happening?
[49:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Does he know the cameras are there?
[49:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He does.
[49:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He doesn't care.
[49:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He really does.
[49:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's good for me.
[49:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It doesn't mean while Mickey is like me and probably everyone else, brush, floss, skin care, shower, more stress than it did it up like we're talking an hour.
[50:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, okay, um, you finished her nighttime routine already.
[50:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're done.
[50:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Wow.
[50:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's a Nelson too.
[50:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm going to the shower.
[50:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Maybe you should do maybe.
[50:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He says, okay, I'm going to go change and then he climbs into bed.
[50:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They didn't look like he was staring at the ceiling or something.
[50:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what he was doing.
[50:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was like a few days.
[50:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, so then she gets into bed and she's like, oh, or you don't, he was like, yeah, I was just doing my gratitude and so grateful for you and she's like, oh, that's nice and she's like, you know, I'm glad we don't have to compete for the bathroom like that passive aggressive thing they both have.
[50:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, you're in and out and he's like, she goes, do you get all the parts?
[50:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: you were only in there for three minutes.
[51:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, it's weird.
[51:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like because hygiene is very important.
[51:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, yeah, I get it.
[51:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Just like my shower three minutes.
[51:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The media tries to convince you that all these products you need to use.
[51:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It doesn't mean you're clean.
[51:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, it was like, okay, not well educated man starting a sentence with the media's tries to
[51:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: that is not shun, this is so concerning.
[51:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You don't need to use all that soap.
[51:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Hey, walk me through, what do you do exactly when you get in the shower?
[51:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Walk me through some steps.
[51:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Dad, dad.
[51:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you don't even wash and you don't even get the soap and wash yourself and let it run down to your legs or whatever and not scrub you.
[51:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: because big soap is like trying to get you, like, okay.
[51:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you're funky too on top of everything else.
[52:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Let's see us.
[52:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Get out.
[52:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, what else?
[52:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What else is he thinking the media is trying to convince him of?
[52:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because that's just like showering.
[52:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What else?
[52:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Just getting your body clean, honey.
[52:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's your nasty bitch.
[52:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You have got to get on the couch.
[52:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're not getting in my bed like that.
[52:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Absolutely not.
[52:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm sure she's like, oh, you're on my bed too.
[52:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's never done that slide.
[52:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Never go.
[52:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Anyways, he says, thank you for inviting me back into our marital bed.
[52:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's like, he's being attentive to his tone and his posture and her forgiving and moving on is a sign of her growth.
[52:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, there's that.
[52:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she says, thank you for noticing that.
[52:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Thankfully, that's the end of those two.
[52:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're done.
[52:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Moving on.
[52:57] \[UNKNOWN\]: We did it.
[52:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We did it.
[52:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Woo!
[53:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Would you rather watch Courtney and Nick or I'm pulling my best Kendrick?
[53:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Let's play.
[53:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Four, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go,
[53:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, what a pig actually.
[53:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is really hard.
[53:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm gonna have to go with Nicky and Sean, shockingly enough, because seriously, Courtney's energy, I can't do it.
[53:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I cannot do that.
[53:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was leaning to his Courtney and Nick, but it's true.
[53:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's a lot.
[53:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But then I think of Nicky and Sean and I'm like, uh,
[53:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, y'all tell me what you think.
[53:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think that would be an important thing.
[53:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, it's tough.
[53:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You have blood pressure.
[53:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're anxieties going up with Courtney and Nick because of Courtney and then Nicky and Sean, the blood pressure.
[53:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, no.
[53:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, my God.
[53:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That was a slam.
[53:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it's also because they're just being both passive and aggressive.
[54:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You said passive and aggressive.
[54:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Passive and aggressive, man.
[54:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think it's recording, right?
[54:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's the mile a minute, but we're getting her that is who she is just saying what she means even though she's hurting somebody and then it's just like okay, I guess I'll just take it But with these two is like say what you mean me what you say like you're they're they're lying to each other and it's just frustrating Yeah All right quick breaking up right back
[54:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, we are back with Marissa and Adam.
[54:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I am just stealing shock that this is one of the stronger couples that we have, like even if we don't understand it, it works.
[54:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, and good for them because I was like, oh, he's so judgmental and like,
[54:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, we're gonna turn you into an athlete.
[54:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, yeah.
[54:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You drinking, yeah, mac and cheese that you make in the microwave.
[54:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, you should, like, I was like, yeah, this is not.
[55:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's gonna be making her feel so bad.
[55:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I guess.
[55:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[55:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We've just moved in together, so there's still time.
[55:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So there's still time, but I keep saying that, but each episode comes and I'm like, there's still making a work.
[55:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I was fully prepared to give Marissa all the credit, but I have to give him some credit, like he seems to be in to her.
[55:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And that's what happened when you put two people who were attracted to each other.
[55:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It just keeps them a head start.
[55:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, just give the people.
[55:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's just a beautiful thing.
[55:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Someone they're attracted to.
[55:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Imagine if Sean was tall.
[55:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Maybe it's still suck actually in a bag example.
[55:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Imagine they gave Nikki a tall man.
[55:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That was yeah.
[55:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Not like Sean anyway.
[55:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Not like Sean.
[55:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[55:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, it's okay, you tell me, I think do it.
[55:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I call Marissa and Adam my sins, and my sins are still going strong.
[55:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And Adam has drawn an M in his beard and she didn't for her.
[56:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he has the right wife.
[56:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, oh my God, that is so cute.
[56:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Some most romantic thing, anyone's ever done for me.
[56:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[56:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And they're going to see his place.
[56:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm freaking correct me if I'm wrong.
[56:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Did he say, I wish I had showered.
[56:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[56:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay.
[56:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay.
[56:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[56:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You did say I wish I had showered, but, um, why don't you just do it.
[56:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Even you wish.
[56:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're a troll.
[56:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, couldn't wait.
[56:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But they get to his place.
[56:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's showing her around.
[56:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's a disco ball that is shattered and she's like, oh, what happened?
[56:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's had it through a lemon at the disco ball.
[56:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It shattered.
[56:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, so replace it.
[56:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It has a hole right there.
[56:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We don't care if it looks raggedy, but as you can see.
[56:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He has ice pics in the ceiling, and I'm with Marissa.
[56:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, yeah, that's very scary.
[57:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, yes, it's giving Netflix documentary in five years.
[57:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Fairy that, I don't really want to go any further in here.
[57:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, why do we have that?
[57:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But she says she never expected this with him, but she loves how silly that he is.
[57:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's tall, he's good looking, he has big shoulders, and then the words of Paris, Hilton, that's hot.
[57:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: which great yeah yeah I mean he takes her jet skiing I don't know if the screams are really hers or he says she was a real strong
[57:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: as he ripped dude.
[57:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh god, and I couldn't blame her if it was real.
[57:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's going so fast like anytime I've been on a jet ski.
[57:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have to drive it because all of that fast going bouncing up and down like no I'm just trying to check out the sides.
[57:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That feels dangerous to me.
[57:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't like it.
[57:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Adam would not like that, Raven.
[57:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, he was who would not like me at all.
[58:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
[58:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, so that's it for the Sims and we move on to Caitlyn and Devin.
[58:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, they're having, yeah, they're having dinner and it's a little tense because Caitlyn is still giving that cold shoulder.
[58:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And they're sitting down.
[58:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think they ordered food and stuff and you're just talking and she's like, so what are you going to fill your days with?
[58:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, what are your plans to stay away from me?
[58:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he says, he says, well, I'll try and see if I can get in touch with my team, see about getting a routine, you know, I like going to the gym with them and then like meal prepping.
[58:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she says, your days are just going to be gym and meal prep and waiting for me to come home.
[58:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, why why why are you being so mean?
[58:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, Rugby player.
[58:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, okay.
[58:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay at the times like why are you asking him that he's going to go to work, but I guess I think he's going to get with the team the rugby team.
[59:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Maybe he's in his out.
[59:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, and that's why she's like, okay, so she's like don't he look at me.
[59:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, but she
[59:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What is that with her?
[59:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm trying to remember at what point she's like oh god, he's just going to be in my face and try to be up under me all the time because like I don't I don't recall him necessarily like giving off that energy Like can you wait till he tries to do it actually like he's doing it and then be like
[59:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think she's already anticipating the future because he's mentioned like I want to be all up under my wife I want us to do things together and she's just like, no, I want the boyfriend that didn't even know what I was doing He didn't even know if I was alive.
[59:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I want that Like are you I don't think you want to be married and like that's okay, but I don't think This is the thing for you
[1:00:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I was like, I don't think it's even a little show this is.
[1:00:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, it's in and you had no idea.
[1:00:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And seeing her just like her attitude, I'm like, oh, her dad, it's all making more sense to me.
[1:00:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, if the wedding means like, oh, I can meet all these people I have to like, way, hey, hey, nothing has even happened yet.
[1:00:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Can you just calm down and like see if you enjoy your and like at you?
[1:00:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You had a nice time.
[1:00:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So Kate, like, can you just go with the flow a little bit?
[1:00:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, no, I need to make sure just does not happen.
[1:00:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But that's what shocking though.
[1:00:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I feel like the Caitlyn we met at the wedding is not this person that all not at all We're shocking foot forward and so keep putting it forward.
[1:00:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why did you stop?
[1:00:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why did she apply?
[1:00:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why did she answer?
[1:00:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know she had to have mentioned this Right, right?
[1:01:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is just insane and then why put it with Devon?
[1:01:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, it's not nice to either one of them
[1:01:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know what it is?
[1:01:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She hates his die job.
[1:01:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She likes his hair.
[1:01:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Her hair for this, because even when she's matched she's looking at it, she's like, I'm gonna even give you a man like this test this die job.
[1:01:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's really what it is.
[1:01:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's 20 to 26.
[1:01:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why does your hair look like that?
[1:01:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Bye, bye, bye, bye.
[1:01:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:01:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I like, oh, me.
[1:01:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay.
[1:01:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay.
[1:01:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So he, she says, yeah, you're gonna be no prepping, Jimmy and waiting for me to come home.
[1:01:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, no, I wouldn't be waiting for you like a puppy dog and she's like, okay, good.
[1:01:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she says, okay, good for like 1,000 times.
[1:01:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she asks, well, how would you feel, how are you gonna feel with me being on the go all the time?
[1:01:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's like, I'll be fine.
[1:01:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just wanna be included when you're home.
[1:01:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, this man just so sad.
[1:02:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's breaking in my mind.
[1:02:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't mind going to the gym by myself, but then it'll be fine because I'll go to the gym by myself and I'll be working all through, basically I'll be gone, so I don't even have to see your face or your die job.
[1:02:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Don't be perfect.
[1:02:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then he apologizes for being too much.
[1:02:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I didn't like that.
[1:02:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And focusing on the negative and not prioritizing what she needed, that he doesn't want to be a needy guy.
[1:02:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That he was like, I don't think I'm a needy guy.
[1:02:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She goes maybe a little bit.
[1:02:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she like wasn't even looking at him like as he's apologizing for stuff that I don't even necessarily think he needed to do, but I think he was just trying to like, make nice, yeah, yeah, she was just like, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm,
[1:03:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Stop it, you made me do.
[1:03:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, oh my god, yeah, even worse, she cuts him off and was like, yeah, I don't want to rehash all this.
[1:03:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Let's talk with Dr. Lisa.
[1:03:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't want to talk about this right now.
[1:03:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, oh, what do you do to you?
[1:03:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He didn't do it.
[1:03:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He just wants exactly.
[1:03:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He just wants affection and wants to hang out with his wife.
[1:03:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, God forbid.
[1:03:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So bad.
[1:03:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Crazy.
[1:03:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Eight weeks.
[1:03:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: In a confessional, she's like I put sunscreen on his back.
[1:03:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I danced with him at the cool party.
[1:03:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Sorry, that made me laugh.
[1:03:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I gave him hugs.
[1:03:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She said, I did the exhausting conversation to 2 a.m.
[1:03:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, ah, these are things you do.
[1:03:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're married.
[1:03:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I think marriage is you have to have that problem say anything the entire time Her dad was just bitching and moaning and bitching in the mom was just Hmm, but um, she's such crying.
[1:04:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I hate it.
[1:04:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I hate it.
[1:04:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You Now you're crying.
[1:04:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What are you crying about she's like I just want a relationship that's easy for once could be easy You're the problem and she could this is kind of relationship that I hate
[1:04:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I put a fork in it.
[1:04:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Her groaning and it's like they riled each other up too.
[1:04:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So they're really just like, yeah, it's not all work.
[1:04:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, misery sisters.
[1:04:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes.
[1:04:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: K-1, I was like, oh, you hate this?
[1:04:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All right.
[1:04:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Same free because let him go so he can get some materials.
[1:04:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is a fair.
[1:04:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, I think they're still talking and she just gets up and walks out on him.
[1:04:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He had to laugh because he was like, this cannot be real.
[1:05:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Right.
[1:05:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But they are meeting with paths in their expert session.
[1:05:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, uh, why her?
[1:05:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Can we get the other group?
[1:05:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What's the, um, Paul, what's Paul?
[1:05:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Paul.
[1:05:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Paul.
[1:05:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Hello, I know where is he at, like these are the people who need you get past the people they're doing okay, give him yes, I don't remember is a she yeah with them all together and then we find maybe not a nice time passes like I don't have details, but I have knowledge that you guys are not doing so great, which is very different from the other experts because every time the other experts came to like we get all the info so we know what is happening with you so.
[1:05:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, why don't you have that?
[1:05:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why don't you have all of the information and all of the details?
[1:05:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, because what are you canceling them on if you don't have details?
[1:05:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Right, that's why she's not doing a good job, specifically with these two.
[1:05:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, you need to see, okay?
[1:05:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You need to see exactly what's going on.
[1:06:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Devon says the thing is she needs space and I have all this rejection stuff and passes like and abandonment.
[1:06:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Don't forget that.
[1:06:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Thanks for their reminder.
[1:06:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, so you need you, and you still gave him someone.
[1:06:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Interesting.
[1:06:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I love the space in the world.
[1:06:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Great.
[1:06:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Thank you for clarifying that.
[1:06:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Thank you.
[1:06:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So he's like, but I need something.
[1:06:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I need an energy exchange.
[1:06:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I need a flirt, a complimentary joke.
[1:06:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Anything.
[1:06:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So Caitlyn brings up the whole gym.
[1:06:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The gym and all the stuff that happened and says, like, you know, he perceives the situation.
[1:06:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And whenever she explains it, he doesn't accept what she's saying.
[1:06:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: because it doesn't make sense, Caitlyn.
[1:06:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right.
[1:06:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she says, like, it's a lot.
[1:06:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she feels very, like, she's the villain.
[1:06:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she doesn't feel like she's causing all this.
[1:06:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then the tears come again.
[1:06:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The feelings are not facts.
[1:06:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, yeah, tears.
[1:07:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, then we have to talk about why you're crying.
[1:07:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And not what we were talking about before.
[1:07:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, yeah, no one pissed me off.
[1:07:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, because like I don't think you're the villain and then it becomes this thing of trying to cuddle her try to make her feel okay I'm like this is not you guys said the number one rule was honesty This is not very honest.
[1:07:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't doubt that she feels like the villain But maybe she feels like it because she is and then be honest about that
[1:07:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's known as a villain.
[1:07:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You are the villain.
[1:07:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But how can we work through it if you really want to?
[1:07:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because if I were a devine, I would choose violence.
[1:07:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I would like if she's a person who likes her alone time, did you think we would be compatible, knowing that I have rejection issues?
[1:07:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I would be sad to hear the answer to that.
[1:07:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, yeah, explain yourself.
[1:07:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, how did we end up together?
[1:07:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It doesn't make sense.
[1:08:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it's very disappointing because she said in the last episode that she has not been in relationship something about why do people even like me.
[1:08:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, I want a relationship where they don't even know what I did and stuff like that.
[1:08:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, that's what we need to get into and tell her that that's not normal.
[1:08:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right.
[1:08:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not.
[1:08:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And for you to be feeling like that to them being like, I want to get married and not only do I want to get married.
[1:08:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I want to marry a perfect stranger.
[1:08:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know anything and just like, I don't understand her.
[1:08:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Much like that then.
[1:08:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says she doesn't want to feel like he's being dissected as much as she does and he's like I'm just trying to understand you and then she goes Less is more with me and y'all are not going to believe this passes like yes, I was just going to say that less is more and I'm like this is it you can't convince me otherwise this lady is not for me, I just what do you mean what does that mean?
[1:09:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Does I didn't understand?
[1:09:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Less is more.
[1:09:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't understand.
[1:09:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And can we talk about what Evan also needs?
[1:09:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, it's not one person.
[1:09:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's exactly like
[1:09:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is not going to work.
[1:09:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So disappointing.
[1:09:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So disappointing.
[1:09:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then pass asked him like, okay, can you say what you like about each other so far?
[1:09:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And Caitlin was like, yes, I can and then passes like, oh, that's so nice.
[1:09:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She said yes immediately.
[1:09:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What do we?
[1:09:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, why are you praising her for that?
[1:09:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, it's very frustrating to watch.
[1:09:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, give her so much credit.
[1:09:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This whole time.
[1:09:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's like really weird.
[1:09:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[1:09:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like they're trying to make her comfortable.
[1:09:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Maybe she's threatened to leave.
[1:09:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know.
[1:09:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Maybe she has, it's like, I can't do this anymore and they're like, okay, we gotta keep her comfortable.
[1:09:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'll do that though.
[1:10:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have a lot of couples.
[1:10:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Please, actually, it makes it easier to cover guys.
[1:10:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What the heck?
[1:10:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Caitlyn thinks that Devon is personable clearly here to do the work and when he opens doors for her, she finds out honorable, which is surprising to me.
[1:10:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I thought she'd be like, stop.
[1:10:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh my God, you just want to be near me.
[1:10:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Go away.
[1:10:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Shut the door on my face.
[1:10:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He thinks that she's beautiful.
[1:10:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's driven.
[1:10:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He does say she's a boss bitch.
[1:10:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He passes nothing about that and he was like, but we have to let each other in.
[1:10:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says, well, I'm doing better.
[1:10:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I used to be zero, and now I'm doing something so be appreciative of this.
[1:10:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like Like that's not how that works.
[1:10:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You don't get to be the one to say you're doing better.
[1:10:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's asking Why can't she just be like yes?
[1:10:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, I will work on doing a better job at that period
[1:11:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, you know what, I'm going to try that warmth is I know I don't do it.
[1:11:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So yes, yes, I've commit to working on that damn.
[1:11:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I honestly, I think Devon is.
[1:11:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: filling in the gap of what pass is not doing because then it's like I just don't want to feel like I'm being breadcrumbs and it's true because you're saying yes Oh, he gave you eye contact.
[1:11:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I should be grateful that my wife looked me the eye.
[1:11:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're crazy about the sounds And you know what that oh David and it's been a week you're getting to know each other like you know Relax I'm like pass.
[1:11:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What are you doing?
[1:11:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Hey
[1:11:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're fired.
[1:11:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm sure he was who devastated me.
[1:11:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, he's probably like, oh man.
[1:11:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, that was a great session.
[1:11:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I really liked that.
[1:12:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Pass asked him if they're attracted to each other.
[1:12:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Caitlyn's like, yeah, I am.
[1:12:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's all like, oh my god, look how quick she said.
[1:12:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's attracted to each other.
[1:12:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You just want this man to accept anything the bare minimum.
[1:12:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, she's not she's attractive to you Well, she don't act like it so I don't care that she's saying that she is it doesn't matter.
[1:12:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It doesn't mean anything What does he mean if someone is attracted to me but treats me like shit like I treat me like shit and doesn't want to be around me Oh, but she thinks I'm not like okay
[1:12:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, but yeah, Devon says, you know, I just want to be better and I just want to make her comfortable and Caitlyn's like, oh, that was nice and passes like, oh, look, okay, you know what that's it that was the session.
[1:12:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't I I'm curious to know what Devon got out of the session, but let's see what it does because this was disappointing at least for me.
[1:12:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's probably asking those producers like, where's Paul?
[1:12:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I get to like, can I can we meet with someone else like about the same thing?
[1:13:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, how quickly can we get a session on the books?
[1:13:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: A second opinion.
[1:13:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: A second opinion because that's crazy and don't know it.
[1:13:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, Mecca and Bill Jolie.
[1:13:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Bell Jolie says that living together has been great.
[1:13:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I thought it was night one, but what do I know?
[1:13:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she will show him that she likes him, but the ball is in his court, because she ain't chasing no man.
[1:13:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The, the hit.
[1:13:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Go ahead.
[1:13:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What?
[1:13:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Kizura has been just make a move.
[1:13:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Who cares?
[1:13:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're not chasing him, you got him.
[1:13:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You guys, things are going well, like just, you, you are the one that,
[1:13:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: made it how to say this.
[1:13:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You wouldn't even kiss him at the wedding.
[1:14:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that was so childish to me.
[1:14:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm with you.
[1:14:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, you're going to marry a stranger, but you draw the line it like a little a quick little kiss at the altar.
[1:14:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Come on.
[1:14:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You did that.
[1:14:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So maybe he's like, oh, I need to like follow her.
[1:14:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's what I would be thinking.
[1:14:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I know they've like made out here
[1:14:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why I need to tread lightly, I don't want to like do too much because like obviously she's got a thing with the pace that we're moving so she needs to be in control of that that's what I would think but also they could I don't know talk about it.
[1:14:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We think actually think that's their problem.
[1:14:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They talk too much.
[1:14:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Do just kiss them just you know what to do You might be close to each other.
[1:14:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like the ball is in your court like I'm giving you the green light He's like I don't want to do too much this that like what is we're married
[1:15:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Two attractive people too.
[1:15:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, that's very, get to it.
[1:15:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Anyways, um, they talk about their past relationships.
[1:15:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He had a girlfriend.
[1:15:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The closest that he came close to being in love with that I guess, but she moved overseas to play basketball.
[1:15:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I don't know what that is.
[1:15:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, but he says that he's not a hopeless romantic.
[1:15:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, he was trying to joke like he was a hopeless romantic and he was like, nah, I'm not
[1:15:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he feels like he's by your mom being a picture, really affected him, and she shares the same thing about her dad.
[1:15:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like the only thing she knew was his name, and her dimples, she got him from him.
[1:15:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And her mom and dad met at the club, and looks like she was conceived that night.
[1:15:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[1:15:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And her mom did tell him that she was pregnant, and that she told him I don't want anything from you.
[1:15:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he was like, oh man, thanks.
[1:15:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's so generous and considerate of you.
[1:15:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then they never heard anything from here again.
[1:16:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And we father's day.
[1:16:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not funny.
[1:16:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not funny.
[1:16:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She doesn't father's day post.
[1:16:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Which I'm like, what does she say in the post?
[1:16:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But she said it's a, you know, a conf... Like it's just a weird difficult time for her.
[1:16:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like she's not a process.
[1:16:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You could weird feeling, but she does do a post.
[1:16:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: When she was 20, her friend was like, like, maybe don't do the posts.
[1:16:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[1:16:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It feels, I mean, people deal with things differently.
[1:16:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Does that help you?
[1:16:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Wait.
[1:16:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think Instagram makes people forget that.
[1:16:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We have these things called journals.
[1:16:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[1:16:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[1:16:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Writing them, we can read them, we can process.
[1:16:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just don't think that's for everyone to be a part of.
[1:16:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But that's just me, maybe I'm just very private, I don't know.
[1:16:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And don't ask me, I just showed my face this year.
[1:17:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We were the wrong ones.
[1:17:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But yeah, so her friend was like, oh, we're going to find your dad.
[1:17:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So she found her dad and met him at 20.
[1:17:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We knew he was already, but I guess it didn't click to me that he doesn't know this.
[1:17:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because she stole this story twice, I guess.
[1:17:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I'm like, we know.
[1:17:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, he didn't mean it.
[1:17:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He didn't.
[1:17:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: By the way, this fish that seemed overcooked, but that's besides the point.
[1:17:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, right?
[1:17:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes.
[1:17:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he asked for a DNA test.
[1:17:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she told him, like, I don't care why you weren't there.
[1:17:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just want to move forward.
[1:17:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's, and she's like, guess what he said?
[1:17:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's like, what?
[1:17:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, what?
[1:17:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Wow, that's a considerate generous of you, but I guess that's why he told us all of this is just a consistent man.
[1:17:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, so he sure is how he also didn't see his buy-o-moment till he was 21 and then Mekka's like Do you have that issues?
[1:17:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I asked for a girl with that issues.
[1:17:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just
[1:17:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: like you did and there's like no, no, I was just kidding, but I don't know if it's kidding because this is not good, this is terrible, but when we're younger, I had a guy friend who said, do you have any friends with daddy issues, like those are the ones that I want, this is who a younger, we're like teenagers, but I believe it.
[1:18:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So that's why I was like, when Mecha said it, I'm like, I don't know if he's joking, but you know, we'll never know.
[1:18:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But he says that he has mommy issues, like he does not know that he has daddy issues because he has a dad like a scratchy There's not what a terrible man So he's still promoting the show, you know, he's nice I'm sure he is That's a man with no shame Logic, logic, amen
[1:18:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Our final couple.
[1:18:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
[1:19:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She doesn't get to do that.
[1:19:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know why people put rules on themselves.
[1:19:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Listen, you can have rules, you can have your principles or what you want.
[1:19:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But sometimes it does make life more difficult.
[1:19:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So things like builds your league.
[1:19:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, I don't want to kiss them.
[1:19:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If you do, it's not the end of the world.
[1:19:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I promise you that.
[1:19:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not about things.
[1:19:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, man.
[1:19:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're giving you a head start in a story.
[1:19:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like you're getting along with Felipe, you're married.
[1:19:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It is what it is and you're trying to do it.
[1:19:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're trying to do it.
[1:19:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Don't you put these rules and makes you over a thing and makes you it like the thing is in life But nothing is guaranteed.
[1:19:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It might still be messed up.
[1:20:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, yeah, might be great also.
[1:20:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, so don't stop yourself exactly Go for it
[1:20:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So anyways, yeah, so she says like, you know, she feels good with where they are in intimacy and the first time they have sex would be special.
[1:20:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then we see them go to the Shattu sent Michael, which is where she worked for about five years because she's to work in wine PR.
[1:20:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They talk again and they compliment their thoughtfulness about each other, they're giving each other compliments and how thoughtful they are.
[1:20:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he says like the reason why he did this was because he was lonely.
[1:20:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he tells her again that he's committed to her.
[1:20:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And to do that, he wants to be completely honest with her and doesn't ever want her to feel blindsided.
[1:20:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, wait, I thought we shared all the secrets already.
[1:20:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What's happening?
[1:20:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Great.
[1:20:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:20:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Nothing happening guys.
[1:20:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They just let us up for nothing.
[1:20:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There was nothing.
[1:20:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he says that so far she's doing all the right things that she's great.
[1:21:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She shares that it's hard for her to be transparent and she doesn't share when she's going through hard things.
[1:21:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: For example, last June, my mom had cancer.
[1:21:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, oh my god, what the pain?
[1:21:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm just like, oh yeah, she's fine, but you know, I didn't share that with anyone that you just figure out how to handle things.
[1:21:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's like, um, if my mom had cancer, I would be devastated.
[1:21:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:21:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, I was, but you have to say it's not impossible for it to happen.
[1:21:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, this is admirable.
[1:21:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I don't know if it's concerning.
[1:21:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's concerning.
[1:21:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You can't keep something like that is not good.
[1:21:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[1:21:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You need to keep something that huge, like to yourself and just deal with that like on your own.
[1:21:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That is, it's too much.
[1:21:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's too much.
[1:21:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's a my full one person.
[1:21:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:21:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: she has surgery and you know she's good.
[1:21:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she says that it is refreshing that he is transparent and she confessional she says she can see herself falling in love with him and she shares with him that him being transparent also inspires her to want to be transparent with him.
[1:22:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, she was like, I have another secret app to tell you.
[1:22:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I love making Shakururi reports.
[1:22:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So she has an IG.
[1:22:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says it was shirt cuties.
[1:22:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Which I went to look for.
[1:22:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I didn't see it.
[1:22:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: At least it wasn't my base on theater.
[1:22:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know.
[1:22:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I do.
[1:22:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But if you have it, send it to me.
[1:22:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I want to see it.
[1:22:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Me too.
[1:22:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I love to look at Shakururi reports.
[1:22:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She has all of 37 followers.
[1:22:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If we found it, you would have more.
[1:22:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Her dog joins them, Koda, in the house, so he looks like the dog is going to be living with them at these the very nice apartment.
[1:22:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was funny when she said, look you have a nice apartment in a daddy now.
[1:22:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then the mood changes, you know, I'm taking notes.
[1:22:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So sometimes my head is turned.
[1:22:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm getting some after midnight tempo jams.
[1:23:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, what's going on?
[1:23:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're nice, you are.
[1:23:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know?
[1:23:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Check them out, wow.
[1:23:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Uh-huh.
[1:23:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I see the security cam.
[1:23:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, okay, this is something good.
[1:23:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'll tell you guys why.
[1:23:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: From what have gathered, would I interview the participants most recently, Clara?
[1:23:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She talks about how they tell them about the camp, but the camp is for security purposes, like if something happens, they can see and things like that.
[1:23:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then certainly that is going to be used.
[1:23:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, so sometimes they don't even know that they don't even know that it's going to be used.
[1:23:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think like even Clara when she cursed out that man and said, like, I'm not getting mine and you're getting off every night, she had no idea that it was going to be, they didn't even ask her in an interview.
[1:23:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She watched it with the rest of us.
[1:23:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, oh, god.
[1:23:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That is what they used that for.
[1:23:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But remember also season 17, Michael and Chloe, that's how he got hands and pants stitched.
[1:23:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They sat there, put their hands down their pants and stuff and that's how we got some stuff.
[1:24:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So basically the cam view was on and I was like, okay, what are we going to see now?
[1:24:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What's going to happen?
[1:24:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And also basically they might not know that that was going to be shown.
[1:24:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I can't even have a moment in your living room.
[1:24:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Anyways, back to Peacock on cut.
[1:24:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Please hear me.
[1:24:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We see her kiss, um, Felipe with the music still going on the background.
[1:24:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then we see and just take his pants off.
[1:24:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He just took it off and I'm like, not in the living room.
[1:24:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You guys know the camera season 20, guys.
[1:24:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then she joined into it.
[1:24:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She brings a blanket, they start making out on the couch, they switching positions on that, and then they go to the bedroom.
[1:24:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm like, okay, I guess that's it for us.
[1:24:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then the cam comes back up.
[1:24:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it says two hours later, at least it wasn't 15 minutes later.
[1:24:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I know it's like two hours, okay.
[1:24:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well hey, and then we see Chloe come out the liver room.
[1:25:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's with a pillow and then in a confessional she's like we had sex.
[1:25:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not too sweet anymore.
[1:25:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yay, Tory.
[1:25:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she said immediately they were done not immediately, but not long after she had a strong dose of flight and that the bedroom was suffocating her.
[1:25:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, oh no.
[1:25:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, no.
[1:25:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's not that is not how that's supposed to go.
[1:25:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, it's like almost as bad as crying.
[1:25:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, and she may have cried when she got on the couch.
[1:25:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, no.
[1:25:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm glad she added this part where she says it had nothing to do with him.
[1:25:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It had nothing, she was very specific.
[1:25:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It had nothing to do with him.
[1:25:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It had nothing to do with the sex.
[1:25:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he had nothing with anything that he did.
[1:25:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Trying to tell that to believe me.
[1:25:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm very curious how he's going to interpret this, but he was like, she's like, it was just a height of vulnerability for her that she doesn't know if she was ready for and going to the couch made her breathe.
[1:26:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This made sense to me.
[1:26:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, and I, and now I'm scared to find out the dynamic or how they ended up having sex.
[1:26:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If that makes sense,
[1:26:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't feel like I'm ready, but we're pretty much like the time, like... We're just like the night of the hour, get it over with.
[1:26:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Or is she just gulting herself for nothing?
[1:26:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She could be just gulting herself because that's not how she usually moves, but like you also don't usually marry a stranger and like, yeah, you know, like... That's true.
[1:26:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[1:26:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I was not expecting that I was like, oh no.
[1:26:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:26:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is something to add.
[1:26:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's a strong reaction.
[1:26:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Very.
[1:26:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And so like, how is it going to be after I?
[1:26:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because the messages you don't feel safe with him and I get it.
[1:27:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's a stranger, but you guys have been when we said that you did.
[1:27:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:27:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I guess you felt that way and then you were like, I actually know.
[1:27:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And so then what does that mean?
[1:27:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's why I'm curious.
[1:27:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Or is it a case of my family's gonna see this?
[1:27:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why did I do that?
[1:27:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like I don't know, because it comes up again in the future episodes, we see it was too soon.
[1:27:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm just, you have to separate if it's a you thing because somebody else is gonna hear that.
[1:27:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You have a partner who's gonna process that differently.
[1:27:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We say it's too soon that implies a lot of things and it's just, it's tough.
[1:27:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's tough.
[1:27:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And they were going so strong.
[1:27:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They were doing so well.
[1:27:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it's like this feels like this could be a major set back, depending on well both of them really yeah.
[1:27:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I think if she best case scenario, if he understands and is like, you know, what this is out of your character, because I think what we know of Tories, she's a very controlled person and I think she felt like this was an out of control out of character thing for her and it's just the end of the world to her.
[1:28:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If he knows that about her already and he's like, I understand, you know, at your pace, we don't have to do anything again until you're ready, maybe.
[1:28:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But if he's just like, well, what does that mean?
[1:28:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You don't trust me, blah, blah.
[1:28:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, and then mix it about him.
[1:28:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He has to be something I did and blah, blah, blah.
[1:28:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then I'd be a part of it.
[1:28:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't think he will be that way, but I don't know.
[1:28:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, no, these people, we all know this people.
[1:28:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because you know, beyond his best behavior, you're still at this point.
[1:28:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So who knows what he's going to pull out?
[1:28:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why did she say it next week in front of everybody that it was too soon?
[1:28:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, no.
[1:28:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That dinner looks crazy.
[1:28:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That looks crazy.
[1:28:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There's a lot of things being said that probably shouldn't be in front of everything.
[1:28:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Wow.
[1:28:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's always my favorite part on this journey.
[1:29:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The dinner nights and the couples, the commitment ceremony when they all talking front of the experts, because they Australian experts, they give you the truth.
[1:29:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Sorry, you have got to keep saying that.
[1:29:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You have got to keep saying that.
[1:29:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That is funny.
[1:29:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I don't know, we used to go through training.
[1:29:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know, I don't like what we saw today, but the real person who gives them the truth on Australia and RIP male, she passed away, she was also an expert with Paul on the UK version.
[1:29:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So we'll see how it goes when that happens.
[1:29:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But before we go Raven, let's do our bouquet in our ashes.
[1:29:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Who has your bouquet for the episode?
[1:29:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I gotta tell you, this is really difficult.
[1:29:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: because the couples and the people that have like moved me, it wasn't a negative way.
[1:30:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I think that I'm going to give my bouquet to Cameron and Michelle.
[1:30:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Just just a nice moment.
[1:30:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I thought it was really sweet that he shared with her like, oh, our travel sucked, but like I still had fun with you.
[1:30:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that was really nice.
[1:30:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she enjoyed hearing it.
[1:30:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So that's why I'm given that to them.
[1:30:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: here.
[1:30:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, boring isn't always bad.
[1:30:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No.
[1:30:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Working out, you know, for you guys.
[1:30:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay.
[1:30:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's fair.
[1:30:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, I'm going to give my two Adam and Marissa because I don't understand it, but it's working.
[1:30:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's all I know is that it's working.
[1:30:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And if they're happy, if she loves that an M was in his period.
[1:30:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's okay with the jet ski.
[1:30:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's someone for everyone.
[1:30:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like good for you guys, you know.
[1:30:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:30:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: lots of options.
[1:30:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Who has your asshes?
[1:30:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Ooh, lots of options is right.
[1:30:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm I have to give it to Caitlin and her stank attitude.
[1:31:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm just I'm so confused by her.
[1:31:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't understand what she's doing here.
[1:31:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know why she is being so mean to Devon.
[1:31:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He hasn't done anything to her.
[1:31:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It is totally uncalled for.
[1:31:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's just nasty.
[1:31:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's just being nasty for no reason.
[1:31:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And if you don't like them just leave, get out of here.
[1:31:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Get out of here.
[1:31:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Agreed.
[1:31:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Agreed.
[1:31:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Agreed.
[1:31:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, yes, depending on who you said, I had a backup just in case because it has to keep it in.
[1:31:36] \[UNKNOWN\]: Yeah.
[1:31:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Hey, you guys can tell, yeah, it has to be passed.
[1:31:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, my goodness.
[1:31:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's no one else because this was just a foreshowing.
[1:31:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, she's in this non-existent probation with me.
[1:31:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She has no ideas on one side of probation with me.
[1:31:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And this is your time to shine.
[1:31:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And matchmaking, now expert session, where do we go from here?
[1:32:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, this is not good.
[1:32:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, I just feel like there's two people in a couple.
[1:32:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's Devon and Caitlyn.
[1:32:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's fine if you want to support Caitlyn.
[1:32:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But you could have given some time to Devon too.
[1:32:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And as a whole, like, as a couple, giving them some advice.
[1:32:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because at least with Courtney, she had least said, so she's armed.
[1:32:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Kisses cheek.
[1:32:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, never.
[1:32:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm sure.
[1:32:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, not even addressing the meanness.
[1:32:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, you can watch the space where you don't have to be mean.
[1:32:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right.
[1:32:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But she said that she didn't have the information.
[1:32:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So maybe that's what it was.
[1:32:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No.
[1:32:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She should have been from what she heard there.
[1:32:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No.
[1:32:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're not giving any grace.
[1:32:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[1:32:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Thank you so much, Raven.
[1:32:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Thank you.
[1:32:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This was so fun.
[1:32:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What a fun episode I ended up with.
[1:32:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It is.
[1:32:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It is.
[1:32:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: OK, before I go, can you share with people all of the places where they can find you?
[1:32:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes.
[1:32:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you can listen to my podcast, which is better.
[1:32:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Anywhere you get your podcast.
[1:33:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm also on YouTube.
[1:33:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you can check me out there.
[1:33:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And you can follow me at mainly Raven on Instagram and threats.
[1:33:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, yes, go follow her.
[1:33:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's very funny and she covers all the shows and next year for a lot of island.
[1:33:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She covers it every day Not in a court.
[1:33:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No court.
[1:33:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No court.
[1:33:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No court.
[1:33:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm sorry.
[1:33:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Nikki is a Nikki.
[1:33:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm asleep Court me make you everything
[1:33:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, guys, you know what you find me?
[1:33:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's Tain Talks, whatever your social media of your choosing is.
[1:33:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You can also find me patreon.com, such Tain Talks, where I am covering.
[1:33:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then today, if you want to say the last resort, how about a episode in Raven, actually?
[1:33:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We covered the polygamous, so where's the kids?
[1:33:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Heck, that out.
[1:33:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Please give me a five star rating.
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[1:34:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I am having my guests and they are going to be former maps participants.
[1:34:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: All things be equal so you should be fun because I love getting the behind the scenes and their point of view of
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