# MAFS S20 Ep. 4: Black Cats

An episode of [Tayne Talks: A Reality TV Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1522401890), 26 Jul 2026, 1 h 13 min.

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It's a solo episode! The couples have made it to Mexico for their honeymoons and the big cracks are beginning to show. Caitlin talks nonstop about being a black cat and the switch up is crazy. The couples face hiccups and handle them differently. They also all meet for the first time at a cocktail party. Get bonus episodes on Patreon on documentaries, MAFS content and reality shows like Sister Wives and 90 Day Fiance. Different levels are available - a tier to listen to episodes ad-free ($3), a tier for bonus episodes ($5) and another to listen ad-free, bonus episodes and get regular episodes early ($10) Join the conversation in the Patreon Community Chat and on Instagram, Twitter, Bluesky and Threads - @taynetalks Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

## Transcript

[0:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Hello everybody welcome to another episode of Tain Talks.
[0:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I am your host Tain here to talk to you about Marida first sight season 20 episode four Sorry, this is a little bit late.
[0:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think I told my patrons earlier.
[0:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I am on a work trip and I am
[0:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: so busy, but I'm finding a way to get this episode.
[0:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I am solo.
[0:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This episode will be solo next episode also, but then the guests will be back because I'll be back to my regularly scheduled routine, but I had to get this out because the season is rolling and they are on their honeymoon.
[0:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: so can't wait to talk about this episode before I get into the episode just for my new guys patreon.com slash taint talks you can go on there to get bonus episodes I cover the polygamous with Raven from bitches better.
[1:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm also covering 90 day last resort season 3 and you can get ad free episodes you can get video episodes over there as well.
[1:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't want to say guys.
[1:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I have been talking non-stop.
[1:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm sure you're tired of hearing me talk about it That you know, I wanted math and he moved to peacock to have like this watercolor moment and I don't feel like that happened with season 19 But guys, I think we have it in season 20.
[1:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I
[1:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Don't necessarily think, I don't know, it's not like the greatest reasons, but I think we do have our water cooler moment and we're getting traction and now everyone is talking about watching maps people who've never watched it, I like I'm going to watch Marida for sight people who stopped watching it and like, oh, do I need to go back?
[1:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But everyone is talking about it online and I think it's because of Nicky and Sean and The moment where she didn't know well, I think she knew that that was her groom But it was just like oh for real.
[2:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is gonna be my groom, but basically Nicky and Sean and the clips whether it's that clip or Her talking about her salary requirements Courtney with her generous six bullshit is also there and unfortunately
[2:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: talked about it the last episode with A just how in appropriate all his comments were during the episode who knew that he could get worse and sometimes you know during the week between the last drop and this drop has been a whole lot that's going on.
[2:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'll catch up to speed a little bit shout out to those of you who sent me stuff about this but I mean I don't even think I knew that
[2:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's his full name, but videos, he's ticked up videos that he's been doing.
[2:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He really is a principal.
[2:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He has been a principal of, well, it's not really confirmed and it's a little confusing.
[2:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Some were saying that he was an assistant principal of a school, but he's been a principal as well, but he keeps getting reported by kids.
[3:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: or the parents, the kids parents, and the schools that he's in, but he never really gets into trouble.
[3:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He just keeps being transferred to another school, reminding me, he's kind of like, you know, the Catholic Church, where a priest does something, and then they transfer them to just an out of parish, and they're just fine.
[3:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But Logic's is also a hip-hop artist, apparently, and he's done like a song, he had like an explicit song called Cancel Christmas, and it was about school shooting, I believe, and I'm just, what are we doing, you're working your school environment, like live your life, how you want to, but you have to be sensitive to these things, and then even worse,
[3:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He has TikTok videos where he makes his jokes that are kind of like sexual abuse, like what we saw on camera.
[3:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'll just give an example of one of them.
[3:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He has music, some kind of, you know, this cartoon music that I want, just playing in the background.
[4:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's holding a bag of like cashew nuts and he's saying, stop grabbing my nuts while putting them in your mouth.
[4:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm just, you're a grown man.
[4:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What are we doing here?
[4:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But,
[4:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Anyways, that's all the things that are going on, but I think all this all together, somehow our little show is skin interaction and it's having its water cool a moment, be careful which asks for it, right?
[4:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because now on the flip side, we have people who've never watched a show, like, you know, we've been in the trenches, we know the lore, you know the history, but welcome to everyone who's watching this show at it, it's just sad that it's a season where it feels like it's
[4:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, just based on episode four, everyone seems to be like struggling and it's just looking like the worst matches ever, but Max is also known for its fake out.
[4:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So let's just dive into, um, I'm going a couple by couple and then we'll talk about when they all meet in Mexico.
[4:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Let's start with Devon and Caitlin.
[5:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You know, I guess everyone is doing like how everyone's telling us how there are night wars and there's a rump robbing about it.
[5:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think it's a way for us to also know if they had sex or not.
[5:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Caitlyn says it was nice to snuggle, but then also sleep separately.
[5:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like wondering what she meant.
[5:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Little did I know what was to come.
[5:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Dev insists that he's love language is physical touch and they're touchy.
[5:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says that he doesn't bug her or turn her off where he used to turn her off in the past.
[5:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He said he wasn't expecting for them to hook up last night because he had no expectations and she's like, yeah, I would never.
[5:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And his face was gonna let all right now, like I know not yet, but eventually, right?
[5:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're gonna have to, not we're gonna have to, but like he's hoping that they go to the next level of the relationship.
[5:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: but she's like, it's just not her vibe.
[5:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He says hook up culture and one night stands.
[5:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's not gonna say the he hasn't done that, but he is an intimate person.
[5:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then when he says into me person, he means like dinner is talking, staying home and chilling, but he's just like, you know, a very fiscal person.
[6:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So in case Caitlyn missed it, I think what Devon is trying to say is, I don't mind waiting, but I would prefer that.
[6:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We don't, you know, wait that long to the point where we're like in the friend zone.
[6:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, she's like, oh, yeah, I did get that vibe from you from the wedding because you were very touchy.
[6:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says that she likes to take things slow and is like a slow burner, but yeah, all that stuff will come naturally.
[6:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You guys know, I just, I can never understand this.
[6:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, slow burn and maps in the same sentence does not make any sense.
[6:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, please, you already done the part thing.
[6:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: and married a stranger went through all of the process to marry a stranger and then you come on here and then now you want to slow down the process.
[6:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What are we doing?
[6:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, just really annoys me.
[6:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So we don't get any basket or location announcements.
[7:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You guys know how we get the knock on the door.
[7:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, oh, we get a flag.
[7:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're going to insert wherever it is that they're going to.
[7:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We just see Caitlin say, oh, we need to go back and I'm like, oh, okay, they're going to back.
[7:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then we see everyone packing.
[7:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We see suitcases.
[7:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We don't have anything like fun.
[7:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, you bought this, so we're matching, oh, we do this.
[7:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's just it, and then we see Devin dancing again, just saying tacos and tequila, if you remember, and they're quote unquote, bachelor party, you just dancing to no music.
[7:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then we just see water, we see the ocean, and then we see the title card saying that they are in the Riviera Maya Mexico.
[7:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then we see them having dinner, they're talking about their parents, how, you know, both of them have good examples and their parents were really good at resolving conflict.
[7:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They were both raised in strict households, and he tells her that he likes her, and she's cool, and he feels like this could be a forever thing.
[8:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: These two are just in their bubble, we see them jumping into snow tays, and I'm like, oh, this is cool.
[8:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Remember,
[8:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They got my bouquet last episode because they're wedding just seemed to click and everything just seems to be fun Despite her dad trying to make many announcements.
[8:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They just seem to be cool So it looks like they're also being forced to have like deep conversations I don't know if this is their choice if they're just trying to get to know each other better or if they're being stared in that Direction with production But considering they just met it just feels like
[8:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: really quickly.
[8:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think we are in day two, three because this is the honeymoon.
[8:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So she says she's had two long-term relationships that were almost four years, which knowing what we're about to find out.
[8:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm just like, how was she able to cope with that?
[8:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He said he has an relationship that were longer than a year and a half, but it stopped because you know, long-distance
[9:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says that has he ever heard of the whole black cat golden retriever phenomenon because she is a black cat
[9:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He says that he's a golden retriever.
[9:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He likes to cater cater cater, and sometimes it is not being reciprocated.
[9:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's like, oh yeah, but I don't want you to do that.
[9:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, I don't want you to just focus on that and focus on catering to me that she would like him to also think about himself.
[9:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then we get a confessional, which is like, yeah, not the most in touch with my emotions so logically
[9:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: it means the experts think that she's ready for masks and also she was matched.
[9:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But she's like, but I love that he is, though.
[9:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Who knew this is going to be a problem?
[9:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like, where is this coming from?
[9:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Who is this Caitlyn?
[9:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is not the person that I met last week.
[9:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she's like, oh, it's what everyone in life says that she needs.
[9:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And you know what the thing is, you put it in front of her and she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[10:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why are you nice to me?
[10:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No one's ever nice to me.
[10:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is so weird.
[10:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Guys, I think like we have to remember the sentence.
[10:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: because at the same time, it is a little sad that she's saying this because she does mention that she has data, you know, assholes in the past and now having someone nice to you and wanting to get her to you, saying, why are you nice to me?
[10:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just think it's something we need to pay attention to because this is going to play out in our relationships and just no one's ever beat is ever nice to me.
[10:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's just, I don't know, sad.
[10:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like it's just your reaction
[10:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: your dating is nice to you, should not be well, well, well, why?
[10:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It should be, oh my God, I welcome this, and I would love to reciprocate that with you because this is a healthy relationship.
[10:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Which goes back to when she said like, oh, our parents are like a good example in conflict resolution, but also what else more do we not know about the relationship?
[11:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But
[11:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She said that she loved when she dated someone who did not care what she did, and I'm like, oh, this is not good.
[11:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What, this is why, as much as I didn't like,
[11:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: really care for watching the matchmaking process.
[11:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is where it's helpful to realize like, did she notice about herself?
[11:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because she is saying, I'm not the most in touch of my emotions.
[11:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm not touch of Philly.
[11:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't want to be in the same space with someone for so long.
[11:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Did she not see these things to be matchmaking?
[11:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Is this why this was taken out?
[11:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because, why was she matched?
[11:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why would we match, I don't know why I'm asking this question.
[11:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We saw things from other people when they got matched.
[11:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why match her with someone who's such a feeling and wants that affection, and who is broken up with people, because his person wasn't there with him in the long distance relationship.
[12:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I know the answer is entertaining, but still I'm asking why, because part of when Pasun Paul, we're talking, they were saying that, you know, compatibility is one of the things that they look for when they match people.
[12:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So explain this to us, please.
[12:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, yes, she says, she dated someone who didn't care, and she loved that.
[12:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then we see Devon saying that the vibe from her a kind of standoffish.
[12:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And the way he feels loved is to be.
[12:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: with his person.
[12:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he doesn't feel like, you know, he's getting that feeling from her.
[12:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So they're sitting on the side of the next, you know, days and they have like a picnic basket, that's like a whole bunch of fruit and has like just some light food and I think champagne.
[12:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And my guy's just eating his mango just like chilling.
[12:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, wow, you chew a lot, oh my God.
[12:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, you really pulverize your food before you swallow it.
[12:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like I just chew and then just swallow it.
[13:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm like damn guys again the switch up between this two is mad like where did this come from?
[13:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So then we see them going to bed she's already like ice closed sleeping position He's there not like giving him any infection she's like I set my alarm for eight o'clock to go to the gym Like I'm just gonna wake you up.
[13:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm gonna kick you a couple of times if you don't wake up then so be it like just being really
[13:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's what cold, I think that's what I'm going for.
[13:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You won't think that this is a person that not long ago just told us that.
[13:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's touchy feeling, but he doesn't put her off.
[13:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It doesn't have the egg.
[13:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like she usually does, but it looks to me like she does already.
[13:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They go into bed and like I said, it just feels like she's stonewalling him and like it goes in her eyes and like, I don't even think she's going to bed.
[13:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She just doesn't want him to talk to her.
[13:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's my deduction.
[13:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like even through the screen, I can see this habit that she didn't build a pillow for her or anything or a pillow wall, but I can see the habit that it'll go wall just between them.
[14:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like just not giving him anything.
[14:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He has to actually reach out and be like okay, good night, and he has to kiss her in her cheek, because She's even like turn around.
[14:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're trying to reciprocate it, you know, with him.
[14:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The next morning We see like a selfie cam and she's like okay.
[14:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I woke up at eight
[14:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: and I'm walking to the gym is the first time I'm going to the gym and I need that there's any to go.
[14:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Then we see Devon saying like he woke up at 830 and she had gone and if she really wanted to go to the gym by herself, she should have just said so that they need to communicate if she needs her time alone, they talked about it and they could have just said it.
[14:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Hey, can I ask, how did he sleep through her waking up doing all the things that go into the gym?
[14:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm a lightsaber, so I think I just always, I mean, all when people don't even move when... Yeah, partner, whoever they share in their bed with does all the things because I'm assuming she got up, she did alarm went off, she brushed her teeth, changed her clothes, moved around in the hotel room, and he did not hear anything.
[15:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: and I'm like poor guy, I don't know how to move over this because again, based on the rest of this episode, it is not looking good guys, but that's it for debiting Caitlyn before they go to Mexico.
[15:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm going to take a quick break here and I will be right back.
[15:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, we are back with Sean and Mickey.
[15:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: As we know, this is not going after a good start, it does not look like she is attracted to him, but she is moving forward with
[15:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't always like to say that she's trying, but I think if I'm going to give credit for people trying, this would be the definition of being trying because she is moving along.
[15:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She's not like dating everything and saying like, this is it.
[15:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't want anything more to do with this man.
[15:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I asked you guys, would you think is she being rude to him or not?
[15:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think that she's just trying to set her boundaries and so try to fill him out to know how she's going to handle this.
[16:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He brings her coffee in bed and then they high five and I'm like, no, no, no, no.
[16:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If you've been listening to me long enough, I don't like when couples on maps high five.
[16:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just feel like you're putting yourself in the friends zone.
[16:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And that's not high five.
[16:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If he's a fuhug or something, let's not just do the high five.
[16:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What up buddies?
[16:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're married.
[16:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: As someone who isn't a more than person, Sean starting really early with the jokes is a lot.
[16:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's just like he said that he realized last night,
[16:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: he has to back up and let her be the star.
[16:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She reiterates that he was coming on too strong the day before and she's still not attracted to him but she does think that it can grow.
[16:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She says that he reached far ahead in the middle of the night, she did find that intimate and sweet but she thinks that they're in for a great love story and this is what I mean like I just like the fact that it's not a dead end.
[16:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We have seen many couples where
[17:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They just seem like what they saw and they're just like this is not going to work.
[17:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not going to happen Think Gina season 17 where it was just like I don't like Clinton.
[17:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not going to happen We're just going to be friends and then that's it.
[17:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not even a chance for you to grow.
[17:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I think I like the fact that Nikki is not Giving it a complete end and is even saying like they could be in for a great love story
[17:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Nicky and Sean arrive and they arrive in Mexico and they are staying at the Vidantar Riviera Maya.
[17:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Their section is the first time we realize where they are staying and it's so funny, I have actually stayed at 8.
[17:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Vidantan, not at the revere my location.
[17:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I stayed at the last couple's location and cute little spot.
[17:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So they have drinks that look like mimosas.
[17:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know what it is that they gave them.
[17:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And Sean asked for them to like link hands and then kiss and Nicky agrees.
[17:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Again, not a case of don't touch me.
[18:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Don't kiss me.
[18:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't want any of this.
[18:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She doesn't agree and they do kiss.
[18:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like
[18:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The more you just do something, the more maybe feels natural, the more there's not a lot of anticipation built around, oh do we kids, oh do we not, where do we stand and you just go ahead and you do it and maybe it helps you be comfortable and if you keep doing it and you feel like I'm not feeling it, at least you know you tried.
[18:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I do like her approach with things.
[18:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: when she's in the space that she's not attracted to him but she's still doing all the things just to see if their relationship can move forward.
[18:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They do a selfie cam and they're very excited for this honeymoon.
[18:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're jumping on the bed like little kids and like okay this is good.
[18:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Nicky is saying, they're by the pool.
[18:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Nicky is saying, like, you know, I can't wait for naps, a beach massage, and Sean jumps in, is like, we know clothes, and she's like, what, what do you mean?
[18:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, no, no, I mean, like, tank top,
[18:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she goes, yeah, what's that about?
[19:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's like, no, I just want to be as naked as possible, but appropriate.
[19:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she goes, okay, sure, let's do that.
[19:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think he's just trying to see how far he can go.
[19:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, the more she gets comfortable, I'm going to keep trying to joke, then I'll see how she reacts and see how far he can go and kind of gauge what her comfortability with me is.
[19:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, again, he keeps going on his like, okay, how do you with a body, how are you maintaining this, how do you look so hot and she's like, you know, a little Pilates, a little yoga.
[19:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He says he's not in his college football era, but he has a dad bought now, but he's not afraid to take his shirt off whenever he wants to.
[19:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's like, oh, do you want me to take it off?
[19:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, okay, if you want to.
[19:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I mean, good for him.
[19:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like he has his dad bought and he likes his dad bought.
[19:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Screw anybody who doesn't like it.
[19:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like it's my body and I'm gonna do whatever I want with it.
[19:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: See does take off his shirt and she does say I love that he's confident with in his body But I also didn't imagine myself being with someone who has a dad bod without the dad part so
[20:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think she's just having fun with it, but some may take it as otherwise, but yes.
[20:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So then he jumps and he goes into the pool and she's like, oh, you have tahini on your mouth and of course, it is a layup.
[20:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Sean is like, uh, you want to take it off for me?
[20:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, she's not there.
[20:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: like relax.
[20:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The thing is and just confused by Sean.
[20:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Sean said he was going to just take it slow and take it easy.
[20:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I don't know why he's still trying to test the waters and see how far he can go with his jokes.
[20:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like just relax and let her become the boy as you get there.
[20:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So she does
[20:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, ask about the altar, like what we expecting, like what did you think?
[20:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: When you saw me on the altar, he said, I thought that you were beautiful.
[20:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And she's like, for me, I came in and I just saw a gorgeous,
[21:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: kind of laid off like she was about to say I saw a gorgeous man and she said a gorgeous pause audience and I'm like Nikki okay you're taking the fizz right now and you're just trolling him and she's like you know the piece of family on the left family on the right and he said if he's like I thought you were going to say you saw a gorgeous man and she's like what I'm not there yet I'm not done talking
[21:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: She gets there and she never fully gets there because she says, and I saw you and I'm like, wow, he's confident.
[21:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I think what she means is like, oh, yeah, you just stood there.
[21:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Not what I expected, but he seems like yourself.
[21:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So that's great.
[21:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He talks about old Sean, where he feels like old Sean is someone who puts himself first and everyone else's second, but it didn't serve him and he doesn't want to bring that into the marriage.
[21:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She also says that she's been super independent too and every relationship that she's been in, she ended it and she feels like she's grown.
[22:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He says, okay,
[22:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, he gave an example of how you've grown and she's like, you know, for example, I like my house tidy and if I was dating someone and they didn't participate in that tightness and they're They themselves weren't tidy.
[22:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I would secretly judge them and say, like, I can't do this.
[22:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I got to get out of this.
[22:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But now
[22:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She takes a deep breath, not take a deep breath.
[22:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She takes a pause and says, why don't I have a conversation with it about them and then see what happens.
[22:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then he asks, so what was the growth?
[22:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like my question was, how have you grown in this?
[22:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the growth was communicating
[22:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's to them versus keep it in and not saying anything and just being like I'm done with this relationship Is that no growth?
[22:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I might repeat guys like but it doesn't seem good enough for him So she kind of gets defensive because the way he does talk to her is like he's a parent and he's like yeah But the question is what was the growth?
[23:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So she gets defensive and it's like, I might be an interviewed right now, but he's like, no, but I'm asking you about the growth.
[23:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're not giving me specifics on your being vague.
[23:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, yes, I'm being vague because I don't want to get going into detail with you.
[23:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, oh, I'm here thinking that she actually gave a good example, but this is, she thinks she's going to go into detail.
[23:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, how much more detail?
[23:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Maybe there's more.
[23:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: As she just doesn't want to put it on camera.
[23:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Maybe that's
[23:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He says, like, well, I'm not getting what the actual growth was and I hear him, but it was just a little intense.
[23:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Again, putting one guys blacks gets to know each other.
[23:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It doesn't have to be that deep.
[23:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, later on, you can be like, okay, what can give you more example.
[23:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We talked about this, but just go with your answer and chill.
[23:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She does say that this seems to be very important to you, and I haven't asked you this because it's unimportant, and I'm like, ooh, yikes.
[23:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says like, yeah, it sounds important to you, but I just feel, and if you, and you are killing the mood, and it feels very academic and doesn't feel personal, like you really ask me because you want to get to know me.
[24:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He apologizes and says that that was not his intent.
[24:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: His intent is just to get to know her better.
[24:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We see them go again by the pool.
[24:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think Nikki came with the fit.
[24:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So she's just going to show off all her coverups, her bathing suit, and all of that, and she looks good.
[24:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So again, thereby the pool, they walk up, and Sean brings up apparently that they had an issue tonight before when they were trying to do their video diary, then we get a flashback and she's saying to the video cam like, hey,
[24:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, we're going to be, I think we're going to wait a few months or I think waiting a few months or five weeks to see what friendship can look like before introducing sex sounds reasonable to her and he's like, oh, you already decided, what do you mean?
[24:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, I talked to you about this yesterday and he's like, yes.
[25:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yesterday you asked me a question, you didn't say you decided that that's what it's going to be.
[25:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, yeah, it feels right to me and he goes, thank you for letting me know.
[25:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I completely agree with you.
[25:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just didn't know that you had made a decision before this conversation.
[25:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then he's just like, he's like, I think you have to validate the fact that she's like, oh, she finishes the sentence and I didn't tell you that I made a decision.
[25:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then he says, tell me back to me what you're hearing me say.
[25:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she's like, here we go again.
[25:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's not, she's not, she's not for me.
[25:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's not in a therapy session.
[25:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, you don't dictate how she's going to talk.
[25:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Especially when she's even agreeing with you, she's saying that I need to validate the fact that I didn't tell you, but he's all, okay, but if you said this, yes or no.
[25:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, can I speak?
[25:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is...
[26:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know, okay, they're both right and they're both wrong, but I think that Sean's problem is that he speaks her, like, maybe she's one of his students and it's like one of his sessions, like one of his 101 sessions.
[26:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: instead of, and then she gets to this later and that's what I agree with, and he always wants to be right.
[26:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says, okay, I want to put sex at the end of the experiment, and I do see tender sides to you that helped me let my guard down, but you ran so hot last night.
[26:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she says,
[26:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: he felt like she says she felt that he felt that he had the right to know that she had made a decision and he goes, no, that's not true.
[26:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're trying to guess what I'm feeling but that's not true.
[26:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're guessing what I thought and I just want to let you know that that's not true.
[26:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And once again she says, please let me speak.
[26:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that's how he came across that you wanted me to let you know about the decision.
[27:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he's like, yeah, again, I just wanted to let you know that that's not how I felt that you're guessing and you're wrong.
[27:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she says, you have nothing to prove, and sometimes when you speak to me, it feels like you're in a stage debating, and it doesn't feel like you're talking to a person, let alone your wife, and you're handling me in a rough and robotic way.
[27:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says to challenge in your conflict is when he gets into conflict, he doesn't create space for her to be heard, and it's all here pointing to her head and not here pointing to her heart.
[27:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's about the process of how they communicate moving forward.
[27:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He says that this is the conversation.
[27:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This conversation is the first time that they are realizing that they have different communication styles and it's going to take a while for them to get in alignment.
[27:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And
[27:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He says he's not wanting to be in conflict with her.
[28:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's not anti her.
[28:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He just wants her to know how to best care for her and eventually how to best love her.
[28:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says, I think that's so beautiful.
[28:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's so soon to tell, but I do think that I'm going to put Sean in the category, and I've talked about this before.
[28:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This new reality show, man, that just are so combative, they just want to always prove their point, and instead of listening, and I really 100% agree with her, that sometimes even if he has a point, it feels like he just wants to be you, right?
[28:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And wanting to be right, it's like he's making points.
[28:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's making bullet points and he's just trying to point out, yes or no, did you see this?
[28:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, you said that.
[28:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, I just want to make sure that you do this.
[28:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I get that he wants to be heard, but she's right.
[28:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You have to be delicate with her.
[28:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You have to have a conversation.
[28:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: and everything doesn't have to be an argument.
[28:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because if you weren't an alignment, if you had the conversation and you were like, oh, we're gonna wait till the end, she asked her a question indicating that that's where she's headed, she's thinking you're in the same page.
[29:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was just a miscommunication that she didn't know that.
[29:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He didn't know that it was definitive, and this is exactly what she wanted to go with.
[29:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, yes, she asked you like, how would you feel about us waiting till the end to do this?
[29:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's because she's thinking about it so you have to know that that's a possibility.
[29:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then I understand his point where it feels like it's not about necessarily the sex, even though Loki, I do think it is.
[29:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, and he's saying like going the future and we're going to talk about things.
[29:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We can't just, you know, make a decision and then you tell me about it.
[29:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think he's kind of putting that in.
[29:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I do think that Loki is kind of like, okay, I didn't have a saying this, but you could go ahead and say like, hey, I agree with you on this, but you know, in the future, I think you'll be great if you kind of
[29:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: you know, talk about things and then we come to the decision together.
[29:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not mad, but this is what I feel.
[29:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But for you during the diary sessions, it should be like, oh, oh, we decided.
[30:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, okay.
[30:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I didn't know that.
[30:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's a little passive aggressive.
[30:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm sorry.
[30:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then make this whole big thing.
[30:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then you start, you know, talking about it and telling her, you're wrong.
[30:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's how I failed.
[30:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But that is how you're communicating, you know?
[30:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So that's it for Nicky and John until the cocktail hour and how they all anticipate.
[30:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But
[30:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think there's hope for them.
[30:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just, when there's not initial attraction, very rarely does it grow.
[30:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think Jamie and Doug still remain the only people where it's grown.
[30:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Am I missing anyone?
[30:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because everybody else who tries and says, oh, let's see if it grows.
[30:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Let's see if it grows.
[30:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It eventually doesn't pan out.
[30:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm trying to think of Shani's injective falling to this, like I don't think it was a situation where he wasn't attracted to her.
[30:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just think he was uncomfortable with the cameras, but we'll see how this goes.
[30:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We'll see if they become the second people after Jamie and Doug where they are like what they saw at the altar, but they agree to like it.
[31:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
[31:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All right, Michelle and Cameron, guys, this couple is still giving me nothing.
[31:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They had a comfortable night.
[31:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She thinks that he's handsome.
[31:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She tells him that she's traditional when it comes to sex and she wants to take things slow.
[31:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But, you know, they're like each other enough so they're in the same bed.
[31:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says that she can't wait to see the other couples and Cameron asks if she plans everything whenever she travels.
[31:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she says, yeah, I like you when the guy plans everything.
[31:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, Cameron is telling her that sometimes he doesn't communicate
[31:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: because confrontation is challenging for him, but he does hope that they can talk about their struggles so if there's anything that bothers her, that he hopes that she can bring it up and he will do the same as well.
[31:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She goes, yeah, we do, and then she gets emotional.
[32:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she's like, I don't know why I'm getting emotional.
[32:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're drinking something, and I feel like they're gripping the bottle, maybe they have to cover the brand name.
[32:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She does share her fiber rate diagnosis with him and says that she has to have surgery again.
[32:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: but she does want a partner that wants to have kids, but when he comes to her fertility, it could be harder than usual.
[32:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then we have five birds like you know, miscarriages are also common.
[32:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He does say that he wants a family, but he does realize that it's not always cut and dry, that you know, sometimes,
[32:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He just, you can't just say, oh, I want to have a child and then that happens that they usually like some, you know, it's usually a journey to get to that way.
[32:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So he seems fine with it.
[32:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she said that she had accepted it and was cool with her adopting if she wasn't able to have her biological.
[32:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: children and he goes, you know, my sister is adopted and she's pretty dope.
[32:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I am fine with adoption.
[32:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I do think that this was pretty cool.
[32:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, you know, he reacted very well and she got to share that with him because I'm sure that's something that weighed on her not being sure how her husband is going to accept this.
[33:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know if this was cut out the edit or she just chose not to tell him yet that
[33:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She froze her eggs, but I don't think we saw a conversation of her telling him that, you know, she froze her eggs, but that was a highlight for Michelle and Cameron.
[33:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think that, she likes him.
[33:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not sure if he does.
[33:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like he doesn't really say, oh, she's gorgeous.
[33:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, I'm attracted to my wife.
[33:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, I can't wait for us off things.
[33:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's just like he's going through the motions and just saying things.
[33:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know, my eye is on them, but I feel like I anticipate.
[33:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: an episode where he says, like, she's a beautiful girl, but I just feel like we don't have the spark and just seeing, you know, where we go with that.
[33:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So for Adam and Marissa, they wake up the next morning, Marissa is like, he's a good cutler, and he says, thank you.
[34:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I've been training for this actually.
[34:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, last week he said this is the confessionals, but who knew that he also said it's her face.
[34:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: On our runically too, he is being very
[34:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: he asks her what her ideal day is and she goes having a three-hour nap.
[34:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He better like just accept that this is this is the real deal in terms of like when he comes to an apps.
[34:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is like the third time she's mentioning that she does not joke with her an apps.
[34:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He goes a three-hour nap is pretty long but he doesn't actually say like listen I think an apps are terrible and an apps are lazy.
[34:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He hasn't actually said that so I don't think she has an idea that he's not a fan of the
[34:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says that she's pretty attracted to him, sharing a bed was natural, they shared kisses here and there.
[34:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, okay, last week I guess that they would have been the ones I have sex and they closed the curtains and everything.
[34:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So why are we not doing the usual thing of, did you consider me, your marriage, did you not?
[35:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, we used to complain when they didn't, now they don't do it, I'm complaining.
[35:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you go to show, you can even make us happy.
[35:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So she confirms that he's a good kisser.
[35:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: um i call them the sims they're now in Mexico in their honeymoon and the sims are in Mexico and he tells her that she looks so beautiful today and what is the secret to her beauty?
[35:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: like what normal human has a conversation like that and she goes oh just being married it's a newlywed girl you know he asks her if she used to model she goes no he's like not even
[35:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: to very a conversation.
[35:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I feel like Adam is one of those people who feels like, oh, I'm cute.
[35:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have many hobbies.
[35:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I am a Renaissance man.
[35:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't need to work on my conversation.
[35:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Everything else will carry me.
[35:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And this should just be grateful that I'm talking to them.
[35:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, let it go.
[35:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says she needs some model.
[35:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: More model, hand, modeling, print, modeling catalog.
[35:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Forget it.
[35:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's not a model.
[36:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Let it go.
[36:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says he gives Abacarami model.
[36:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: See, tomorrow she's those wings even though Adam does look like the kind of guy that leaves me on the bones of wings but Yeah, they're by the beach and they're just eating and drinking So their drinks come and she tries his out for him to make sure that there's no alcohol I got to say that I did think that that was cute
[36:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, she was like, did me just make sure it wasn't like, no, just iced coffee.
[36:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that's just what it is.
[36:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She doesn't confessional and says that she thought that it would be difficult.
[36:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, because he doesn't drink, but it's nice to know that their chemistry isn't drunk based.
[36:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That made me laugh so hard.
[36:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't even know.
[36:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not that funny.
[36:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But it made me laugh that she said it wasn't drunk based because it's like,
[36:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're not like you met while you were drunk.
[36:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not like you're gonna be drunk 24-7.
[36:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think what she just meant is like the fact that they have chemistry and they don't need alcohol to have chemistry, but her just say in drunk phase, maybe laugh.
[36:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're not gonna be drunk 24-7, so no, it's not drunk phase.
[37:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, she asked if he could carry her over, I think they have rocks by the region, it's like easy.
[37:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I could toss you around.
[37:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Did you forget about last night?
[37:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't like, okay, now they're teasing us.
[37:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, did you have sex or not?
[37:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He says, come here and then they kiss and Adam is just so browy, but she likes it.
[37:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They seem to like each other.
[37:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They seem to be going well and I'm, you know, cautiously optimistic that
[37:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All the things you know about Adam, maybe they didn't match him with the right person.
[37:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I am a little worried that you just say, I don't know, like the physical attraction is there, but I need more, and I'm not getting more from her.
[37:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm just scared that he's going to do that.
[37:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, we usually always have the couples who physically,
[37:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: they start off really quick and they burn really fast but then just as fast as they started burning they burn out really quickly and fizzle out and I'm wondering if that's going to be them, you know Courtney and Nick.
[38:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not good guys.
[38:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: These couple, they're also walling on the internet.
[38:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like Courtney did like a thing where it was like you guys remember the 18 and how many parts story of Tassaris where she says who the fuck did I marry.
[38:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's just having reals and just
[38:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not telling us anything, but she is saying who the fuck did I marry, part 1, and the old part 2 is coming soon, and Nick is just in every damn comment section, just responding in there and just, I guess, promote further show.
[38:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Apparently Nikon dresses at night.
[38:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Throughout the night, Courtney says that he's gorgeous and kind and everything.
[38:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But she's set back to back with him and she's not a touchy-fuely person.
[38:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, oh boy.
[38:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: When you're not a touchy-fuely person, it's just because you don't like the person.
[38:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Diego may coffee because there's a coffee machine over there and he mentions that he's never used like a pod machine before.
[39:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And this is by his court needs to be like, oh, this should be asked.
[39:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Are you a handy guy?
[39:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He goes, no, I'm not, I'm not a handy guy.
[39:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she goes, oh, Nick, who did I marry?
[39:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't like, maybe this is too joke, but we haven't watched it, and you're posting it, so we don't get it, and we can't make the connection.
[39:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says, that's the one area that the experts didn't get right, like, you know, I put them like the man, that's handy.
[39:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she's like, well, looks like I'm gonna be the handy man.
[39:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: At this point I'm like we just got intro morning pick up scenes with everybody else They were just like oh how's your night it was great we cut all through this and then they moved on But with these two we're still going they've got out of bed They're now making coffee and basically it was just longer than everybody else So they make it to Mexico They have all the stuff they need to make a drink It's just sitting on like a side table and Nick is struggling to open the tequila
[39:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: and Courtney just grabs it and it's like, oh, let me try.
[40:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She opens it in two seconds.
[40:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I do think this is a story we're gonna go with.
[40:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like the parts where she feels like put on code.
[40:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She wants him to be the manly man and handle things like this.
[40:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's not able to do that.
[40:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, well, she's couldn't open it.
[40:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Or maybe he says it.
[40:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have to make sure that the drinks have to be really good.
[40:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So he's mixing the drinks and he starts to shake the drinks and the mixer.
[40:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And we just see the lid fly off and you just see
[40:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: begin to visit the show because I'm sure she's getting it earlier but when he can't even mix a drink right and he flies off oh yeah this is not good.
[40:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're in the beach and the way I describe Courtney and Nick they're like two dogs walking around sniffing and feeling each other around and getting to know each other because they're absolutely not comfortable around each other.
[40:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're on the beach, and Nick is asking, oh, is there anything else we can do here?
[40:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Turn a beach in Mexico, on your honeymoon, and you're asking, what else can we do?
[41:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it's just awkward.
[41:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And they're trying to think of games that they could play.
[41:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I don't know how they can fix up.
[41:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They just initially do not have chemistry.
[41:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I don't know if Nick can have chemistry with people.
[41:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: When he was in the perfect match, it was awkward, too.
[41:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, which is why I kept asking if we aren't going to pick a reality vet or somebody, why did we pick Nick?
[41:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is a question I'm going to ask the end of time.
[41:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Hopefully, if I'm lucky maybe way down the line if we ever get
[41:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I ever get like to speak to one of the experts.
[41:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That is what I want to ask.
[41:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why make was that a question for a producer?
[41:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know.
[41:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They go to the pool.
[41:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're by the pool side.
[41:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And again, awkwardness trying to figure out what to do.
[41:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I think a woman is allegedly taking pictures of them.
[41:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was a weird angle.
[41:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The woman was blurred out.
[41:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And Courtney makes a comment like, oh, no flash for talk, please, like no pictures.
[41:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I'm like, do she recognize them?
[42:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, is that a plant?
[42:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: right into the story of Nick being so famous because oh is it just because they're they're filming?
[42:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So they're a million cameras around and maybe she took a picture like sending it to a friend like hey, I don't watch shows, do you know what's going on?
[42:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I walked into this resort and this is happening right here.
[42:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[42:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know what the story is but what are the odds that someone's out there just taking pictures of Nick?
[42:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But as always they're awkward.
[42:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You can always count on that.
[42:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Courtney goes to the confession or she can't hold it in anymore.
[42:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, oh my god, it's boring.
[42:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I am bored.
[42:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This makes sense now because few confessionals ago on their wedding night when she went to bed in her pajamas she's like she's worried that it's going to get stagnant and it's going to get boring and the producer is like you just met him a few hours ago and she's like, yeah, I'm thinking about the future.
[42:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This was a foreshadowing and a foretelling of what's to come because it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
[42:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's going to be in
[43:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's saying not me while Nick on the other head is like we are having fun.
[43:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is great.
[43:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think Nick is lying.
[43:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think he's just saying it to keep face because again he's competitive and he doesn't want to be the one that isn't a sucky relationship will you are.
[43:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There in the, I think we had a pool bar somewhere in the pool and she's telling him how, you know, she was so rigid in her routine.
[43:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She just did the same things over and over even like fast food should not have fast food until last year.
[43:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: and asked him if he has that, not fast food, but like if he has like a routine.
[43:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he says like he had it in college and he kind of felt like he did computer science to make his parents happy.
[43:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because he did ask like the whole secondary routine, doing certain things was to make your parents happy.
[43:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says no, but
[43:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I feel like Courtney is the way she is because of something about her parents, but we just haven't delved into that yet.
[43:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So he says, yes, you can be the science and experience happy, but he remembers way before then, like he kind of did drama and he enjoyed that and he just felt like when he was starting to think about what life was like on the other side.
[44:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: of computer science, that's what kind of made him apply for reality TV to satisfy that age for the entertainment side of the RCC side and to try something that was different from academics.
[44:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He asks her if she has an RCC side and she's like, no, I'm a doer.
[44:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What is an RCC that's to do with being a doer?
[44:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because I think she's trying to throw jobs like, oh, I'm so concrete and I'm so serious because Nick is a doer.
[44:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They did tell you that he has like an
[44:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He works nine to five in his very straight lease in his job, but to me, an artsy side and saying I'm a doer has nothing to do with anything.
[44:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Are you saying that artsy people are not doers?
[44:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think she's gonna person who doesn't take a seriously.
[44:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But anyways, she says that she just has a hard time sitting still and you can see like you were laying down trying to dig a nap and I was just trying to clean, even though we have housekeeping, like it's just how I am.
[44:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But my mom is like that, so maybe that's where I get it from.
[45:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yep, it's adding up guys, remember, in rematch making.
[45:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, you know, maybe I am the problem.
[45:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think maybe she used the problem.
[45:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So she says in a confessional that something is missing with them, but she doesn't know what, maybe he needs to recharge the poor guy, he's so tired, and he's trying to keep up, cue to him in a confessional, and he's sleeping or resting his eyes, whichever one, and the producer is like, how's the marriage going?
[45:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he's like, oh my god,
[45:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: cut the act.
[45:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's also saying like, she's also having a confession in her bikini like in the pool side somewhere else and she's like, I just need to find ways to infuse more fun.
[45:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm stumped.
[45:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, this is driving me nuts and her nervous, nearly energy is on food display and she's all out.
[45:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can't remember if I said it and if not for anyone else who said it or sent this to me, I do agree that I would have loved to see how Courtney and Adam would have gotten along.
[46:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like I kind of feel like they're two sides of the same coin, but maybe that's why they won't work because they're too similar with each other, but I would have loved to see how that is.
[46:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But so far not good.
[46:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She and Nick are not getting along, but Nick seems to think that they are always lying to himself and us that everything is going well.
[46:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Alright, let's move on to Felipe and Tori.
[46:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We remember Felipe, you know, kind of turned things around, at least for me, last episode.
[46:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And they start with them with a shot of pants.
[46:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That looked like they were thrown onto the nightstand.
[46:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why don't you know why his pants won the nightstand?
[46:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They wake up, they talk about sleep, Felipe apparently doesn't snore, they did not have sex.
[46:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He chooses his time to share that, you know, he has a slight fear of commitment.
[46:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So having this level of commitment is going to help him focus on her.
[46:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, I don't know, that was scary.
[46:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Seeing that, like he's using me as an experiment to figure out the commitment, but they're so happy.
[46:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And, you know,
[46:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They like each other a lot, they're still hot, they're attracted to each other and they are in Mexico.
[47:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is now after the honeymoon, they're on their balcony, sharing each other with compliments, you know, they kiss each other.
[47:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Do you do this weird kiss where when the kiss is almost like they're stuck to each other and they just freeze and they stay there for like a long time.
[47:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: and then he separate.
[47:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They did this twice, so it was like, maybe just what that's just what they do.
[47:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So he has these starts a conversation and it's like, hey,
[47:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't want to hide anything from you and I'm nervous and I want to talk to you about something.
[47:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She looks terrified that go Lord, what is he about to say?
[47:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I think he wants to tell her about his cheating, but instead he says, you know, we never talk about your faith and, you know, where do you stand when he comes to faith?
[47:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says, I am Christian, you know, I pray a lot.
[47:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have a relationship with God, me and him are tight.
[47:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And the more I learn about Tori, the more I like her.
[48:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it's a case of not judging a book by its cover because I'm sure like just with the way that Tory looks people will come up with a bunch of conclusions about her and I don't think anyone would guess that she was a Christian.
[48:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know if I'm out of myself and I'm just speaking for myself but that's you know what I'll be thinking but that's what she shares with him and he says like hey for me I grew up Catholic and I'm the only one of my family that is atheists.
[48:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like
[48:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Paul and Pass.
[48:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Guys, I'm good.
[48:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's what I'm going to be calling them now.
[48:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If I don't say the experts, I'm just going to be like, it's like a group of duo.
[48:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Paul and Pass.
[48:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why would you do that?
[48:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why did you not show us this in the matchmaking special?
[48:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You always show us, like, oh, they do this.
[48:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They do that on paper.
[48:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But now we're seeing all the differences.
[48:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Her faith is very important, heard.
[48:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You did this in season 19 with Will and Brittany, not them.
[48:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Exactly.
[48:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: with someone who believes in God.
[48:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why?
[49:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She immediately asked, you know, how would you feel about children being baptized?
[49:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he says, you know, from my perspective, like baptism is like a baby in water.
[49:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So that's, you know, fine with me.
[49:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But for me, it's like, that's the Catholic way.
[49:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I know sometimes someone will say I'm Christian and someone will say, oh, I'm Catholic.
[49:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Catholics are Christians.
[49:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't, I get it that sometimes people think that they're not in their own sect, but they are part of the denomination.
[49:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: denomination and for him saying that, you know, a baptism is water on a baby.
[49:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think maybe not recognizing that for some other denominations, they don't do baptisms when you were a baby, but also Tori did not tell us what denomination she is, but for the fact that she said how he feels about children being baptized, I'm wondering if she's Catholic.
[49:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that's why she said that.
[49:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, I don't know that was why she didn't go into detail, but she does say that the unknown is so scary and for her religion is the safe space for her to have, and he's just like if it's a big deal to her then it's a big deal for him and he's fine with them baptizing you know the children.
[50:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says she's been cheated on and her religion helped her get through it and it's just such a huge principle of hers to be very respectful all the time.
[50:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then she just pivoted and is like, I'm sure you get hit on all the time, and matter effectively, he goes, yeah, I do.
[50:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: At the restaurant, I do get hit on all the time.
[50:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Talk your shit, Philippe.
[50:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says, I'm not jealous.
[50:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm territorial.
[50:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Tori, I love you, bubu, but that's the same difference.
[50:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, you're territorial because you're jealous.
[50:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's what it is.
[50:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's not put nice words on that.
[50:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says,
[50:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: when she trusts her partner will act accordingly out of respect and does and hopefully he does not see a reason to be deceitful.
[50:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then he says well I guess the other big thing that makes me nervous I have to talk to you about is that I know that you've been cheated on before but I want to let you know that I have cheated before.
[51:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He says like he made out with someone while he was with his long-term girlfriend.
[51:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She was like, um, how did she find out?
[51:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She was like, honest, she found that after we broke up and she did not find out for me because even I did not know.
[51:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I found that like years later about it.
[51:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I think he was looking for reassurance because I'm just, you don't want to do it.
[51:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're the one telling her heavy Asia's absorb it because he was like, whew, this is hard to tell you this because, you know, she hadn't said anything.
[51:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think she was still processing, you know, they just had that composition about faith.
[51:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She was finding out that your faith is, you don't know each other.
[51:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: and, you know, she holds his hand and is like, it's okay.
[51:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's good that you're being honest, but I can't see the wheels turning in her head.
[51:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So she asks him, you know, if it's hard for him to be monogamous at the stage in his life, and he's like, no.
[51:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He didn't answer it, like, with a period.
[51:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He answered with a question mark.
[51:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And the question mark in the nose real loud.
[52:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, Felipe, what are you doing?
[52:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You sent him from apps.
[52:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So you were saying that you committed.
[52:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You should be like, of course, it's not hard for me to be monogamous at the stage of my life.
[52:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But he makes it worse.
[52:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because then he says, I want to say, no, I don't think it's going to be hard for me, but honestly, I don't know.
[52:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, no, wrong answer.
[52:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He says he has not been in a community relationship with anyone until now.
[52:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But he knows he's not going to cheat on her.
[52:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You are saying two different things.
[52:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You don't think it's going to be hard for you to move on.
[52:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I know for sure I'm not going to cheat on you.
[52:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So then just say, no, it's not going to be hard.
[52:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He says he's so all in.
[52:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He doesn't want to fuck this up and how lucky did they get.
[52:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He says he feels so grateful and lucky to be married to her and then they kiss.
[52:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I like that he's come clean with these two heavy things.
[52:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I like that he was organic because, you know, she was talking about how she was cheated on and religion was the safe space and he's like, you know, what this is the right time for me to tell her this.
[53:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He didn't dump all of it on her on her wedding day, he said it in the honeymoon where they're getting to know each other and she's, you know, also sharing what her concerns are.
[53:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Even though he said it with a question mark, he is being honest.
[53:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He was honest with that.
[53:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She received the info.
[53:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They talked things out.
[53:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Even though she has her fears, it's not like what we've seen in maps past, where it's like, oh my god, he's cheated before nom, worried.
[53:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's going to cheat on me.
[53:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then you get so hyper fixated on it, that it stalls every other thing about the relationship.
[53:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Now, is this going to happen in the next
[53:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: it looks like it was handled well and they talk things out like adults and then they move on.
[53:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, maps and their fake outs.
[53:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We get a like it's like a voiceover, we don't see anything except the ocean in the beach and then we get all these moaning sounds and I'm thinking it's a massage but it's just Felipe and Tori eating tacos that apparently are so good and they keep calling each other baby multiple times.
[54:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know if it's from Felipe's side.
[54:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I know he does call her baby a lot.
[54:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't think I've clocked if the baby comes from her.
[54:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Philippa asks her what her reason for being here on maps is and she says because you know we're both committed and she just doesn't want to be cheated on again.
[54:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He does ask her which I thought she's really nice like hey are you okay talking about it like I know you've talked about cheating and how did you find out about it.
[54:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She goes oh I dropped him off at the airport and when I came back to his house like I had the keys to his house I got a haggardly message woman to woman from a 24 year old.
[54:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: and he turns out that the girl was a side chick.
[54:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She saw the messages because she sent a couple of things and she was even more mad that she was young.
[54:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She was her sister's age and she was being treated that way.
[54:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She was a mad about herself.
[54:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She was mad about the girls.
[54:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's like, I'm gonna be okay.
[54:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But this girl is just young and impressionable and he's doing this to her.
[55:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So she says she took the girl to a dive bar.
[55:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then she got a u-hole.
[55:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: um kept the girlfriend credit card.
[55:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, yeah, I didn't mention she mentioned that it was like a long-term relationship like a serious committed relationship.
[55:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So she had like the keys to his house.
[55:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She had a girlfriend credit card.
[55:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She kept saying that and I'm like, what is a girlfriend credit card?
[55:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Was she working?
[55:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Was she was she a kept woman or was it just say I trust you?
[55:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Here's my credit card get what you need.
[55:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I don't know.
[55:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She said them multiple times.
[55:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But yes, she got to you, Hall.
[55:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: kept to go from credit card on the table along with his key and she just left and that was it.
[55:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That was a boss move.
[55:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I really like that she did that.
[55:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says like people always say like once a cheater always a cheater and he's like please don't think that that it was just a dumb woman for his life and he was really deeply ashamed when he found out and he's not going to do that again.
[55:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know the thing is it's different from when he told the boys when he was selling the boys It just felt like he was laughing about it like oh, I didn't even remember He was to his later.
[56:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not gonna do this, but now he's saying like he was a down moment But I hope he's not a person who always wants to show both when he's around the guys And I hope he's able to keep the authenticity You'll keep the side that he's showing to Torey Consistent and just be that
[56:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, Mecha and Joly, Belle, Joly and her dimples are asking Mecha if he still believes that she is the female version of him.
[56:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He says he feels like, yeah, he's kicking it with his best friend because I don't like this.
[56:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't like this.
[56:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't want them to be stuck in the friends zone.
[56:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There's too much of kicking it, homie, and all that, please.
[56:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: let's proceed.
[56:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says she does feel the same way they're just kicking over her best friend which is what she wanted because she wanted to have a foundation of friendship and then let it progress from there.
[56:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then he says like he likes a creative pursuit she says she loves and he has a sense of style and she wants them to have matching outfits.
[57:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Little did we know that they're going to be color coordinating throughout this honeymoon.
[57:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're at the pool bar now with Mecca being all, you know, this could be all good or it called crashing burn.
[57:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And Belgioli is there saying, like, you know, it could be good.
[57:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, you know, we're getting along so well.
[57:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's ready for her vacation.
[57:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She got her wet and wavy vacation.
[57:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're going.
[57:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she's ready for all the water.
[57:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Let me come her way.
[57:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Bacheles says that they haven't had intimate moments, but she doesn't want to initiate too much, but when she starts getting feelings and stuff, she needs to be clear on where they're at.
[57:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She asks if you think they have a lot of things to work on as far as the marriage and stuff.
[57:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm checking, I'm like, it's just been three days, right?
[57:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Also, where is the ticker?
[57:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Where's the countdown that tells us, blah, blah, days till marriage, blah, blah, day till decision day, I missed out.
[57:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I want to see that again.
[57:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He says, oh no, we're in a good track and she goes, you don't plan on leaving me, right?
[58:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, oh boy, what's happening?
[58:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And he was like, why would you think that my love?
[58:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she says, if you leave me, I'm going to literally cry.
[58:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Again, Bill's really likes this man, and she's not wanting to say it and be the first to do it, but it kind of feels like she has to do it so they know where they stand.
[58:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: At first, it was him wondering where she stood with him.
[58:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Now, we know the audience know that she likes him, but I don't know that he knows that, and she needs to figure that out and let him know.
[58:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: she likes him like so that he can proceed and you know go from there.
[58:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, um, they chairs to being good, like they're good, they are so good, and I'm hoping and wishing for them that they get out of the friend zone, but I kind of feel like during this situation because of Lil' Miss No Kiss.
[58:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, if you're just kissing at the wedding, anything you have to wonder, where do I stand, where do I not, they wouldn't be here, because now no one knows how to proceed.
[59:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's not sure.
[59:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We already know like he's second
[59:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: she seems to be shy, she wants things to take the lead, but she's telling us, but I don't know that she's telling him as much as she's telling us or the producers in the confessionals.
[59:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it's just a running thing now, anytime they're alone together, they're abosually keeps asking him questions.
[59:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So her non-stop questions is this time, she asks what she thinks would happen when they meet the rest of the couples.
[59:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She says that she wants them
[59:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: to have a sisterhood, and she doesn't want them to have any drama, and she hopes everything goes well.
[59:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They go in a book together and they are matching in green, and she brings up the fact that the friendship part is outweighing the romance part.
[59:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He says, yeah, they click so quickly, so it was inevitable that this was gonna happen.
[1:00:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she says, like, she's trying to remind herself that they are married.
[1:00:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she's just wondering when are they gonna make the switch?
[1:00:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Make the switch, guys.
[1:00:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Make the switch.
[1:00:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just want to wish that for them.
[1:00:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She senses hard to know the boundaries and she loves and wants a man that leaves and he needs to just do it that she just won't want him to be shy, that he should just go for it and she will follow suit.
[1:00:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, okay, kiss her now.
[1:00:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, he does, but it's kind of like a peck.
[1:00:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I'm like, if you wanted all this, why didn't she just kiss this man at the altar?
[1:00:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, like days later, now you want to make that switch.
[1:00:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But also, why is he not making a move?
[1:00:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Has he switched?
[1:00:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Is he not attracted to her?
[1:00:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because again, there are another couple he's saying like I'm attracted to him, attracted to him.
[1:00:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're not getting a lot of that from him.
[1:00:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, now what do you think?
[1:00:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I'm going from wondering if he's attracted to him to now wondering what he feels about her.
[1:00:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know?
[1:00:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, I think that's all the couples.
[1:01:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Whew, this season is gonna be a doozy because we have seven couples that we have to go through.
[1:01:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So the couples cocktail is coming in.
[1:01:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is the part where they all meet.
[1:01:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It is kind of similar to, you know, the love is blind, where all the couples gather together and they all meet on the beach.
[1:01:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Felipe says deduce didn't have any faith in him.
[1:01:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's telling Tori, so it's not like he's standing behind her back.
[1:01:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But now he wants to prove to them that she looks good, so he wants to show her off and just show them like, you know, they're doing good.
[1:01:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Adam, he's like, I anticipate there's going to be some drama kind of who would have thought that in the very first meet-up Adam is going to be in one of the the stronger relationships so weird.
[1:01:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Then didn't um bring up the whole gym thing so he doesn't get in trouble so he just went along you know with it and didn't say hey you should have woke me up you should have you know told me about this
[1:01:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, he's like, I don't want to say anything and that's not good because he's going to be keeping things in and resentments is going to build and that is going to be a problem.
[1:02:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's trying to get ready and she's mad or frustrated because she's trying to do like a braid on her hair and it's not working.
[1:02:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's trying to be helpful.
[1:02:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So do you want to drink?
[1:02:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: How can I help?
[1:02:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But basically, she doesn't want him to be alive and it's like, you know, she actually says out loud whatever and he's like, I'm just going to give her a space and let her be.
[1:02:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So they make their way over to the cocktail, you know, the bar, where it is that they're meeting.
[1:02:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They all start trickling in.
[1:02:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Bozulian mecca, they said calling each other beca.
[1:02:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They are matching in brown.
[1:02:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Nick says he's ready to set judging everyone.
[1:02:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, where about the problem in your backyard?
[1:02:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Not about everybody else.
[1:02:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Marissa says that she's happy, fully based, out there, peacocking, saying like, oh my god, she's so hot.
[1:02:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She just like do a leapa who's my celebrity crush maker is like shout out to the experts for doing Philippe and right Adam says like Philippe and Toria good match and Sean also says like it's a good match.
[1:02:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He sells him for their face because it's the longest it Philippe has been quiet If you remember the bachelor party that's where he was talking a lot and taking over Conversations Kailins over there with her black cat Yammer like we're not gonna hear
[1:03:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: the end of this black hat thing and she's just saying how she told him that she's his worst nightmare.
[1:03:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And Courtney is overtalking to Felipe asking him about his restaurant and he's talking about Oh, do you like pasta and she's like oh, I like gluten free pasta and he's like what you know Like regular pastor and she's like no like I have celiac disease.
[1:03:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's not about fat It's like what I think to say
[1:03:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You could just say, yeah, I'm silly.
[1:03:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can end it there.
[1:03:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You don't need to keep going.
[1:03:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So he says that she is buff.
[1:03:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she takes the opportunity to say, yeah, I am like, you can ask Nick, I've been him a few times at the gym.
[1:04:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, don't talk about yours.
[1:04:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Been like that.
[1:04:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So she tells us in the confessional that, oh my god, Felipe has a ton of energy.
[1:04:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She just wants to talk to him 24, 7.
[1:04:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But she just does better with goofy and letting loose.
[1:04:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And she just wants that in her marriage to Nick.
[1:04:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm like, we're not going to get another Madison and Dave again, right?
[1:04:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because the fuck, what is this?
[1:04:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Felipe is sweating his ass off and he says like he likes them individually then being Nick and Courtney, but he has the least faith in their marriage because he's not convinced that Nick is here just for love.
[1:04:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, oh, interesting.
[1:04:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We've been so focused on that.
[1:04:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I completely forgot about Nick being here for the right reasons.
[1:04:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[1:04:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I've moved past that.
[1:04:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have to accept that this man is on the show.
[1:04:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, Bells really asked everyone about sex and they go around the table, Michelle says they haven't done anything, Tories says they just cuddles, Mary says skip and I'm like, I knew it.
[1:04:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I knew I wouldn't be surprised if they were the first people to have sex and everyone just cheers for them.
[1:05:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, the guys do the same and Adam is like, well, I don't kiss and tell and they're like, oh, and
[1:05:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: they do what guys do, when they find out that sex, actin like they've never had sex before.
[1:05:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Fully Pays says, I'm sure you've vived all over her, and honestly, gross.
[1:05:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: How disrespectful.
[1:05:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like Fully Pays just always wants to be the center of attention.
[1:05:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They can't see anything in the first thing that comes to his mind, but something like, respect the fact that this is his wife, like, he didn't, it's not even like Adam actually said, oh, we have sex, he just said, I don't kiss and tell, and you are,
[1:05:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: inferring that they did have sex or why would you say I'm sure you've wiped all over her.
[1:05:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know and also I don't should have checked him right there.
[1:05:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean someone was like Philippe, but that's not enough.
[1:05:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You need to try to remember like don't do that.
[1:05:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Don't talk about my wife like that.
[1:05:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So Devin is reassured and is hoping that Caitlyn hearing everyone's stories would give her an understanding
[1:06:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Talk to her, not hope that all the conversations inspire her, like you should talk to her and actually tell her how you feel.
[1:06:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know if she's going to receive it, but at least you've told her what it is that you're feeling instead of keeping it in to keep the peace.
[1:06:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Felipe, um, no, Belgioli and Mecca saying how you know they made out and she's feeling the feelings for him, but she does say that the kiss was a 10 out of 10 for her and it's scary because
[1:06:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: um Devon talks about black cat Caitlyn and how he doesn't want to be overbearing towards her but he just feels like he's putting in and putting in and she's not giving back.
[1:06:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Day 3
[1:06:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: day three just give it a bit like I understand where he's coming from and Caitlyn is annoying me too but let's give her some time to see if something changes.
[1:06:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Caitlyn says that the process is in organic and she needs a second to adjust all of this and he's kind but she could jump out of her skin and I'm like what do you mean?
[1:07:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why did you sign up for this show?
[1:07:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Sean and Nikki share the story and all the things that happened.
[1:07:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She tells the ladies like, I am telling him that he needs to handle me like a flower, but she also wants him to be authentically be himself.
[1:07:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, maybe this is just how he talks, but he might have to adjust when he's talking to me.
[1:07:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She does say that every morning is a new day for him, and he meditates in the morning, and he also has her meditating.
[1:07:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He brings her coffee in the morning.
[1:07:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And this morning, after thinking about everything that happened,
[1:07:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He did come to her and tell her that he wants to be her soft space and, you know, she liked that and all the girls like that.
[1:07:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No bills really actually.
[1:07:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I love that, you know, for her, actually you'd love that for her.
[1:07:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So the thing is, whenever the couples meet together, I don't know what is genuine or what is people saying, things so that their couples look not as bad and, you know,
[1:08:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: they seem good and they're hoping for the best in their couples.
[1:08:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I hope she's really appreciating this and she's really appreciating Sean and they are progressing in that front.
[1:08:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Courtney says like, they've done nothing, they're not really kissing, they're doing all that, that she's just not really into him and they start cheersing to slow burn in like he is to slow burn and guys, I shouldn't throw all their glasses to slow.
[1:08:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We are not cheersing to slow burn.
[1:08:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You have skipped
[1:08:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You have come to Marida for a site.
[1:08:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You are not slow burning.
[1:08:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We don't have time.
[1:08:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You have eight weeks.
[1:08:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So no, no chairs.
[1:08:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Throw all glasses of the floor, shatter it all to the ground.
[1:08:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Nick says, Marissa and Adam are the front runners when he comes to physical affection and maybe Nick is not here for the right reasons.
[1:08:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why are we doing a marriage and we're saying for runners who's winning?
[1:08:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What's the competition?
[1:08:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Is it a marriage that's going to be forever?
[1:09:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Or is it just, are you winning a medal at the end?
[1:09:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because that's how Nick is looking at it.
[1:09:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So he says like the front runners of physical attention, and he feels good about how they are, that when he comes to physical affection with him and Katelyn, then in middle of the pack.
[1:09:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So again, either Nick is delusional or he has no idea what's going on.
[1:09:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So Courtney and Caitlyn are commiserating about the fact that they are not able to, they don't like one on one time or they feel suffocated by their partners, Courtney is saying that she had quarantine vibes and if they had to have any more alone time, she might shoot herself in the head.
[1:09:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: and then she points her head and does the shooting thing and then laughs.
[1:09:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like this fucking January 6th deny her is so weird, like I've had about enough of her, you know?
[1:09:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And so while she's winding and trying to confide in Caitlyn, Nick is trying to be attentive and like I'm gonna go check on my wife and then he goes to sit beside her and she makes a face.
[1:10:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that's how episode 4 ends and I'm like, oh my god, London Bridge is burning.
[1:10:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All the couples are on fire.
[1:10:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I don't know what's happening.
[1:10:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Philippe and Toria are doing okay, but I'm so cautious that I feel like something may come up later.
[1:10:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it's too good to be true, I guess.
[1:10:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And the same for Adam and Marissa.
[1:10:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just, for our strong couples to be the two guys
[1:10:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: we're waving the red flag in the first episode.
[1:10:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know what to do with this.
[1:10:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I, oh my god, masks, you're doing what you do best.
[1:10:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But yeah, that was the episode.
[1:10:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We'll see what happens with episode five and episode six to rest of the episodes.
[1:10:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: that were on the drop.
[1:10:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But before I go, I want to share my bouquet on my ashes.
[1:10:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: My bouquet goes to Felipe and Tori, mostly Tori, 90 percent because I honestly just thought it was a boss move that she found out about this and she was concerned about the other girl and how young she was and thinking about her sister and actually taking her out and just letting her give her advice and let her know like don't let them do this to you and also just how she
[1:11:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: mature and I am reluctantly giving it to Felipe.
[1:11:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I really did not want to give it to Felipe because of his comment when he said, I'm sure you've vied all over her, but I want to commend him for being honest and actually coming out, you know, with his cheating and saying it out and actually asking about, you know, her faith that even though they don't align on it, it's just, it's something we have to deal with.
[1:11:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like we are here and wanted
[1:11:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: my ashes go to the combination of Caitlyn and Courtney.
[1:11:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just don't understand where it's still very early as the kids on Love Island say early days.
[1:11:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You are not even giving a chance Caitlyn just really being like
[1:12:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Devon is doing something so terrible to her when he's just being kind and it's a you problem and Just being like, oh, I'm not into my emotions.
[1:12:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just want to be myself.
[1:12:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'll leave me alone Being all whatever when he's trying to help and telling him that you choose too much And you pulverize your food that's so rude.
[1:12:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I didn't appreciate that and Courtney just being Courtney like
[1:12:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: She's forever on my shit list, but just everything that she's doing, she's doing too much.
[1:12:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that little comment about Felipe, I hope you really just was that and it's not going to be more because side I, I'm watching you, you know.
[1:12:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So yeah, that's it for the episode.
[1:12:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Once again, reminding you that my next episode, I am going to be solo, but I promise I promise the guests are
[1:12:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Just a lot of work to have to get done and once my work is done, I will be back and keep you guys my full attention to me, guys.
[1:12:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, hope you enjoyed the episode.
[1:12:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Please give me a five-star reading on Apple Podcasts.
[1:13:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You can get in contact with me, Tain Talks, anywhere on any social media of your choice.
[1:13:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It is Tain Talks all around and stay subscribed so you don't miss out on any new episode.
[1:13:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Until the next episode, guys.
[1:13:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Thank you.
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