# Securing the Cyber Domain: Exploring Cyber Policy in the Department of Defense

An episode of [Irregular Warfare Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1514636385), 16 Jun 2023, 55 min.

Audio: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/kkpmn0/5de8282033baf4-72953531_1497739_Eoyang-Lonergan-IWP.mp3

Be sure to visit the Irregular Warfare Initiative website to see all of the new articles, podcast episodes, and other content the IWI team is producing! Is it possible to deter adversaries in the cyber domain—and if so, how? What should the US Department of Defense be learning from the role of cyber in the war in Ukraine? How do activities in the cyber domain overlay on—and influence—irregular warfare? In this episode, hosts Matt Moellering and Adam Darnley-Stuart are joined by two expert guests. Ms. Mieke Eoyang is the deputy assistant secretary of defense for cyber policy and Dr. Erica Lonergan is an assistant professor at the Army Cyber Institute at West Point and coauthor of the book Escalation Dynamics in Cyberspace. Together, they examine some of the deeply challenging questions presented by the increasing prominence of cyberspace as a warfighting domain. Intro music: "Unsilenced" by Ketsa Outro music: "Launch" by Ketsa CC BY-NC-ND 4.0

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