# Leadership Targeting and Drones: An Effective Counterterrorism Strategy?

An episode of [Irregular Warfare Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1514636385), 9 Jun 2020, 40 min.

Audio: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/bsavgd/5de8282033baf4-72953531_Jordan-Mir-IWP.mp3

In the second episode of the Irregular Warfare Podcast, a collaboration between the Modern War Institute and Princeton University’s Empirical Studies of Conflict Project, hosts Nick Lopez and Shawna Sinnott speak to Dr. Jenna Jordan and Dr. Asfandyar Mir. They discuss counterterrorism, the use of drones, and whether targeting terrorist groups' leaders is an effective strategy. Intro music: "Unsilenced" by Ketsa Outro music: "Launch" by Ketsa CC BY-NC-ND 4.0

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