# \[PREVIEW\] Doomscroll 35.5: Grimes

An episode of [Doomscroll with Joshua Citarella](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1513817688), 24 Nov 2025, 22 min.

Audio: https://c10.patreonusercontent.com/4/patreon-media/p/media/557176997/da9df12cf3d04d35b29421c45a082efb/eyJhIjoxLCJpc19hdWRpbyI6MSwicCI6MX0%3D/1.mp3?token-hash=yio58I0POzQOuc2xRQNL8nXWeVEf4ov85h-_TdTM0DE%3D&token-time=1794096000

Grimes and I map the possible future horizons for a politics beyond western-style liberal democracy and explore the deep philosophical impacts of AI. We discuss post-enlightenment thinking, the crisis of digital art, artist compensation and the aesthetic stagnation of creative work today.

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