# Interviews with Frank Herbert: "Our society has a tiger by the tail in technology."

An episode of [Gom Jabbar: A Dune Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1509836867), 7 Nov 2025, 1 h 19 min.

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Abu and Leo bring you the words of Frank Herbert himself, pulling from interviews and articles going back over 50 years. In this episode, they unpack the philosophy of "techno-peasantry", a phrase Herbert coined about his view of technological advancement and how humans should use the technology in their lives. This episode contains NO SPOILERS for the plot of Dune Get ad-free episodes and bonus content: https://www.patreon.com/GomJabbar Say thank you with a tip: http://buymeacoffee.com/gomjabbar Watch video versions of select episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@loreparty Get yourself some custom-designed Dune swag: https://gomjabbar.shop Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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