# Interviews with Frank Herbert: "Gays have opted to not continue the species."

An episode of [Gom Jabbar: A Dune Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1509836867), 11 Oct 2024, 1 h 29 min.

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Abu and Leo bring you the words of Frank Herbert himself, pulling from interviews and articles going back over 50 years. In this episode, they examine the deeply troubling statements about homosexuality that Frank made during a speech at UCLA in 1985. This episode contains SPOILERS for Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, and God Emperor of Dune Get ad-free episodes and bonus content by becoming a Patron Show your appreciation and tip us by buying us a spice coffee Watch video versions of select episodes on YouTube Check out the custom-designed Dune swag on our merch store Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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