# Episode 10: Whatever happened to International Law & Democracy?

An episode of [EJIL: The Podcast!](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1508367340), 28 Jul 2021, 41 min.

Audio: https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/dfd1f4d8-6c66-4357-89cc-510dd0d2e74c/ejil-ep10-v2-1.mp3

Whatever happened to International Law & Democracy? Accompanying the Symposium on that question in EJIL issue 32(1), this podcast contains a duel between anti-anti-international-law& democracy scholar Akbar Rasulov and anti-international law & democracy scholar Brad Roth. Hosted by EJIL Editor in Chief Sarah Nouwen, they disagree on the curious fate of international law & democracy, on the politics of form versus the politics of substance and the role of the international lawyer.

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