# Love On A New Note (Guests: Deangelo Loftin & Tasha Page-Lockhart

An episode of [Dear Future Wifey](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1506095537), 15 Oct 2025, 1 h 24 min.

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Are you ready for a raw conversation about finding love after trauma? This episode features gospel artist Tasha Page Lockhart and her husband Deangelo Loftin sharing their whirlwind romance that defied conventional timelines. From their first Instagram interaction over a makeup-free photo to a Puerto Rico trip that sealed their commitment, their journey reveals how God orchestrated their union despite past wounds. The couple candidly discusses their individual battles with childhood abuse, addiction, and failed marriages. What makes their story remarkable isn't just the speed of their courtship, but how their shared experiences of healing created a foundation of understanding that many relationships lack. "I understand him and he understands me," Tasha explains, highlighting the profound connection that made their quick transition to marriage feel divinely appointed. ## Timestamps: - 12:30 - How Deangelo first reached out to Tasha through Instagram DMs - 19:45 - Tasha's journey through addiction and recovery - 28:20 - Deangelo reveals childhood trauma and his path to healing - 35:10 - The three breakups that tested their relationship - 42:35 - Their quick engagement and wedding decision - 51:15 - How they handle disagreements with their motto "let love lead" ## Key Takeaways: - True healing requires professional help - Deangelo credits therapy with preparing him for healthy love - God's timing often defies conventional relationship advice - Shared trauma can create deeper understanding when both partners are actively healing - Authenticity in relationships begins with seeing and accepting each other's unfiltered selves - Prayer and spiritual connection can provide the foundation for relationship decisions Ready to be inspired by a love story that proves God can use our deepest wounds to create our greatest connections? Listen to this powerful testimony that reminds us healing is possible and love is worth believing in—even after multiple heartbreaks. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: You see it, clean me up and maybe new should
[0:03] Speaker 1: have Welcome back, And now I'm standing here.
[0:05] Speaker 2: Run hold on, you gotta stop. You're gonna get people
[0:07] Speaker 2: happy in there. This is an exclusive. Uh huh, heymen,
[0:10] Speaker 2: welcome to your dear future WIFEI podcast Tasha Page Lockhart
[0:14] Speaker 2: and my homie di'angelo lofton what's up?
[0:16] Speaker 3: What we said in Detroit?
[0:19] Speaker 1: What up?
[0:19] Speaker 4: What up? Though? That's what's up Sunday best is in
[0:21] Speaker 4: the building.
[0:22] Speaker 3: Huh sir?
[0:23] Speaker 4: How did you feel being on that show?
[0:24] Speaker 3: All comes great?
[0:25] Speaker 1: God used it to expose me to millions of people
[0:29] Speaker 1: all at once.
[0:29] Speaker 4: Mom went super duper viral. Your future dad is gonna
[0:36] Speaker 4: either be Willie Moore Junior or Jonathan mc reynold's like,
[0:40] Speaker 4: how do you feel?
[0:41] Speaker 3: I carry a pistol.
[0:42] Speaker 4: You're too old to try to stop your mama from love.
[0:44] Speaker 4: These two men pursuing your mama heavy.
[0:48] Speaker 3: I never gave up on love. I always be married.
[0:50] Speaker 3: Two prayers that I prayed.
[0:51] Speaker 1: One was, Lord, recalibrate my frequency so that I can
[0:54] Speaker 1: attract something different because I keep attracting the same type
[0:57] Speaker 1: of men. And then I pray the prayer walk it
[0:59] Speaker 1: thro World Hotel Lobby. God, please let my husband find me,
[1:03] Speaker 1: and then that's when he had DM me. Two weeks later,
[1:05] Speaker 1: the Lord reminded me of that. He was like, I
[1:07] Speaker 1: gave you all the confirmations that you need.
[1:10] Speaker 4: How did y'all meet my God?
[1:12] Speaker 5: One day she took a picture she had no makeup on,
[1:16] Speaker 5: and I was like, oh my God, I have to
[1:19] Speaker 5: jump in her dms. Your outward beauty I know has
[1:23] Speaker 5: to match your inward beauty.
[1:24] Speaker 4: And I don't even know you.
[1:25] Speaker 1: He didn't even ask me, but the vibe was just there.
[1:28] Speaker 1: So I just sent them my number.
[1:30] Speaker 4: Where were you at in your relationship journey?
[1:32] Speaker 3: I will tell the truth.
[1:34] Speaker 5: In the process of going through a divorce, I was
[1:38] Speaker 5: about to be for the street, absolutely, and the Lord
[1:41] Speaker 5: spoke to me and said, I'm about to place something
[1:43] Speaker 5: in front of you that eyes have not seen.
[1:46] Speaker 2: When y'all met, he was still married going through a divorce.
[1:49] Speaker 2: How did you take that?
[1:50] Speaker 4: So?
[1:51] Speaker 3: He thought he was divorced?
[1:53] Speaker 4: What you mean?
[1:53] Speaker 3: He thought, I'll say this much.
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[5:46] Speaker 2: Podcast to be a platform where people share their journeys
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[5:57] Speaker 2: they were going through divorce.
[5:58] Speaker 4: Let's talk about it.
[6:00] Speaker 2: And I think I'm very thankful to this couple sees
[6:04] Speaker 2: value in this platform to share their story and their journey. So,
[6:08] Speaker 2: without further ado, welop to their future WIFEI podcast Tasha Page,
[6:14] Speaker 2: I'm about to call you Lockhart.
[6:15] Speaker 1: It's not Lockhart is the stage name. So that's around.
[6:19] Speaker 4: But yeah, Tasha Page Lockhart. And my homie di'angelo Lofton,
[6:24] Speaker 4: what's up.
[6:26] Speaker 3: In Detroit?
[6:26] Speaker 4: What up? Though? That's what's up? Let me up? So
[6:30] Speaker 4: he said, what up in Virginia? Yeah, Virginia, I say,
[6:33] Speaker 4: what up?
[6:34] Speaker 1: Oh?
[6:34] Speaker 4: Yeah, there it is. So let me ask you this.
[6:36] Speaker 2: So, even when you as an artist and you get married,
[6:40] Speaker 2: do you feel any type of pressure to change your
[6:43] Speaker 2: name when you get married? Like you say, the stage
[6:45] Speaker 2: name is Tasha Page Lockhart, but you're married, you can
[6:49] Speaker 2: still keep the same initials. Are you going to ever
[6:51] Speaker 2: change it and be Lofton by the stage.
[6:54] Speaker 1: Every everything legally on my license, on my everything that
[6:59] Speaker 1: you can look up as say Lofton. Okay, But I
[7:01] Speaker 1: mean it's just a smart business move because that's the
[7:04] Speaker 1: name that I branded over thirteen years ago.
[7:06] Speaker 3: You have coming off a Sunday best so.
[7:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and Diageo. How do you feel about that?
[7:12] Speaker 4: I'm cool with it. I'm cool.
[7:13] Speaker 5: I met her as Tasha Page Lockhart, and I understand
[7:17] Speaker 5: it's business.
[7:19] Speaker 1: I like that you said that I understand this business.
[7:23] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[7:23] Speaker 5: Yeah, boy, when it's business, you completely understand that. And
[7:28] Speaker 5: you know, but I know that. You know she's going
[7:32] Speaker 5: to take care of business behind the scenes. You can't
[7:35] Speaker 5: look up for records and find Tasha Page Lockhart nowhere.
[7:39] Speaker 5: When it's all said and done, there it is all right.
[7:43] Speaker 4: Let me ask you just what song would people remember
[7:46] Speaker 4: you by? What? What song? If you were to sing this,
[7:49] Speaker 4: people go, that's who that is?
[7:51] Speaker 3: Uh, you're putting me on the spot.
[7:54] Speaker 4: Uh.
[7:57] Speaker 1: Back when I was seventeen, like every girl, I used
[8:01] Speaker 1: to have big dreams. But then I got introduced to
[8:05] Speaker 1: some other things and sudden lead the church and sudden
[8:09] Speaker 1: lead the church girl I was originally became different. See
[8:13] Speaker 1: the wrong things could call your name. I chose to
[8:16] Speaker 1: answer when the spirit should walk away, And now I
[8:19] Speaker 1: want to live with circumstances down a candy raise Now
[8:23] Speaker 1: I just wish I could go back now of yesterday.
[8:27] Speaker 1: But that's not a hole too deep that God won't
[8:31] Speaker 1: reach down and shame me me, you see it, clean
[8:35] Speaker 1: me up? And maybe you should have welcome back. And
[8:37] Speaker 1: now I'm standing here in front of you.
[8:41] Speaker 2: Although you gotta stop get people happy in there. You
[8:44] Speaker 2: gotta quit. Stops. Good Lord, Sunday Best is in the building.
[8:50] Speaker 2: Huh sir, how did you feel being on that show?
[8:53] Speaker 3: I didn't want to go on the show.
[8:54] Speaker 1: Why not, because first of all, my parents didn't want
[8:58] Speaker 1: me to get hurt with the politics of the end.
[9:00] Speaker 1: Everybody around me was saying, don't do it, don't do it.
[9:03] Speaker 1: And I was actually studying to audition for Motown the
[9:08] Speaker 1: musical m and then a close friend of mine called
[9:13] Speaker 1: and was like, no, I'm sending you to Texas. He
[9:17] Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm sending you to Texas to go
[9:19] Speaker 1: audition for Sunday Best.
[9:20] Speaker 3: So I'm like, should I do it?
[9:22] Speaker 1: And then my cousin called me twenty minutes later that
[9:25] Speaker 1: didn't know. I got the phone call from the other friend.
[9:27] Speaker 1: It was like, I'm sending you the link. You should
[9:29] Speaker 1: go audition for Sunday Best. I was like, Okay, I'm
[9:32] Speaker 1: gonna do it.
[9:32] Speaker 3: So that's how I happened.
[9:33] Speaker 4: What do you think about the outcome?
[9:34] Speaker 1: The outcome is great. God used it to expose me
[9:37] Speaker 1: to millions of people all at once. So it's been
[9:40] Speaker 1: a tremendous blessing.
[9:41] Speaker 2: A tremendous blessing put you in households all across the world,
[9:46] Speaker 2: because even people pull it up and watch stuff on
[9:48] Speaker 2: YouTube or whatnot in other countries. It just put them
[9:51] Speaker 2: in households across the world. Bron what is your background?
[9:55] Speaker 4: I'm not brown?
[9:58] Speaker 2: No, you know what, I can't think it was my
[10:00] Speaker 2: homework Brian Lofton. I got a homework. That's a musician
[10:03] Speaker 2: named Brian Lofton. He looked just like it I can.
[10:05] Speaker 2: And even when he says his name was Lofton, I said,
[10:07] Speaker 2: do not call him Brian.
[10:09] Speaker 4: My brother is a musician. No, okay, that your brother
[10:16] Speaker 4: went on tour me when I was doing places. Here's
[10:19] Speaker 4: my MP. Here's my MP. So what is your background?
[10:24] Speaker 5: Uh, it's extensive. My background. I started off in church
[10:29] Speaker 5: as a musician, been to church my whole life. Grandfather's
[10:34] Speaker 5: a bishop. Uh, and so I've been a musician for
[10:37] Speaker 5: a long time. But I decided when I uh got
[10:42] Speaker 5: eighteen that music won't paying the bills, and so I
[10:46] Speaker 5: didn't want to really like push to go hard and
[10:49] Speaker 5: travel and all that type of things. So I went
[10:51] Speaker 5: into work working sector and began to dive into my
[10:56] Speaker 5: own business and uh so I started uh uh this
[11:00] Speaker 5: is called loft.
[11:00] Speaker 4: And exterminating that.
[11:02] Speaker 5: I've been in business for the past fifteen years doing that.
[11:06] Speaker 5: And then we dived into community engagement with the handicapped
[11:12] Speaker 5: IDD and d D type. Yeah, so we've been diving
[11:16] Speaker 5: into that stuff and God has been good.
[11:18] Speaker 4: So basically making a lot of money, you know. Yeah,
[11:22] Speaker 4: you started talking about all those and when you're in
[11:24] Speaker 4: that that that's it's some money made in that industry.
[11:27] Speaker 5: So it is I'm striving to get to get where
[11:31] Speaker 5: I want to go. And so we're doing some transitioning
[11:35] Speaker 5: because we're transitioning from Virginia to North Carolina.
[11:38] Speaker 2: Okay, so you know we're working on some stuff. Yeah,
[11:40] Speaker 2: Virginia North. So where do y'all live? Y'all live in
[11:42] Speaker 2: North Carolina? Okay, so you you moved to North Carolina
[11:47] Speaker 2: as a woman whereas you ever like had the ideology
[11:52] Speaker 2: that you wasn't going to move for your husband or
[11:53] Speaker 2: you were very open to say wherever my husband lives
[11:56] Speaker 2: or whatever, I'd be.
[11:57] Speaker 4: Willing to move.
[11:58] Speaker 3: I didn't want to move to virgin so off rip.
[12:01] Speaker 1: When I started visiting him there, I was like, I
[12:03] Speaker 1: am not moving to Virginia. He was like, just give
[12:05] Speaker 1: it a chance. Give every He was like, let me
[12:08] Speaker 1: just show you this part, and he would show me
[12:09] Speaker 1: a different part, and I would still be like, No, it's.
[12:12] Speaker 4: Not for me.
[12:14] Speaker 1: It didn't feel like home. You know, I'm not knocking it.
[12:17] Speaker 1: It's not It's not a good place. It just didn't
[12:19] Speaker 1: feel like.
[12:19] Speaker 3: Home for me.
[12:20] Speaker 4: Where's home for you?
[12:21] Speaker 1: Home for me?
[12:21] Speaker 3: Originally?
[12:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, But when I went to North Carolina to visit
[12:27] Speaker 1: my godparents that lived there, I've been going back and
[12:30] Speaker 1: forth there for like thirteen years, visiting them. Last year
[12:33] Speaker 1: in January, I heard the lord say pack up and move,
[12:37] Speaker 1: and so I went home. Seven days later I was
[12:40] Speaker 1: living in North Carolina. Really seven days seven days I
[12:43] Speaker 1: had packed up, Yes, did you.
[12:45] Speaker 4: Move in with them? You got your own place.
[12:47] Speaker 3: Until me and my godsister and I have a plan.
[12:49] Speaker 4: Okay, And seven days yes.
[12:54] Speaker 3: I met with my kids.
[12:55] Speaker 1: I set my two sons down and I explained to
[12:58] Speaker 1: them what I was doing, and I and my one
[13:01] Speaker 1: of my youngest son was like, you know what, I
[13:03] Speaker 1: really want you here, and I explained to him, this
[13:05] Speaker 1: is what it would cost me to live in Detroit.
[13:07] Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about financially.
[13:09] Speaker 1: It was just so many things that represented trauma for
[13:12] Speaker 1: me and negative experiences I was on. I was addicted
[13:15] Speaker 1: to cocaine in Detroit. I got molested in Detroit. I
[13:18] Speaker 1: was raped in Detroit. It was so many things that
[13:20] Speaker 1: went on in Detroit, Michigan for me. And it's not
[13:23] Speaker 1: that I'm not healed from those things. It's just it's
[13:26] Speaker 1: a reminder every time i'm there. And so when I
[13:29] Speaker 1: explained it to them that way, it was like, my
[13:32] Speaker 1: go really, And I showed.
[13:34] Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I show up real quick. How old are they?
[13:37] Speaker 3: Sixteen and twenty four?
[13:38] Speaker 4: Okay?
[13:39] Speaker 1: I showed them that I had six months of flights
[13:43] Speaker 1: that I committed to coming back to Detroit once a month,
[13:47] Speaker 1: and so I go, I've been doing it for almost
[13:49] Speaker 1: two years.
[13:50] Speaker 3: Once a month I'm in Detroit.
[13:51] Speaker 1: I spent like a week there with them, and then
[13:53] Speaker 1: I come on back to North Carolina because I found
[13:55] Speaker 1: peace there.
[13:56] Speaker 3: And so I had to go where my peace.
[13:58] Speaker 2: Was so D'Angelo. So when she said I'm not feeling
[14:05] Speaker 2: Virginia like that?
[14:06] Speaker 4: What made you acquiesce to her wishes to move to
[14:10] Speaker 4: North Carolina.
[14:11] Speaker 5: So it was a lot of lead up to me
[14:15] Speaker 5: being willing to move away. I wanted to change anyway. Honestly.
[14:20] Speaker 5: I was going through a divorce and at the same time,
[14:24] Speaker 5: I was losing the church I was pastoring, and so
[14:29] Speaker 5: Virginia started looking like a place of death for me,
[14:32] Speaker 5: a place where I just I couldn't see life in
[14:36] Speaker 5: it anymore. My children was the only thing that I
[14:41] Speaker 5: really felt that I had connections to, and so moving
[14:47] Speaker 5: into a different place, I was like, Okay, we can
[14:50] Speaker 5: make something happen. And then one day I was traveling
[14:53] Speaker 5: to her and I saw the sign that said Raleigh,
[14:56] Speaker 5: and I heard the Lord.
[14:57] Speaker 4: Tell me welcome home.
[14:59] Speaker 5: Really, And from that moment I was locked in to
[15:02] Speaker 5: move into North Carolina.
[15:03] Speaker 3: Was driving there to see me two or three times
[15:06] Speaker 3: a week.
[15:07] Speaker 4: Three hours, Yes, two or three times a week.
[15:10] Speaker 5: Was it was something special there? I had to get
[15:14] Speaker 5: to it, go to it, he said, two or three
[15:20] Speaker 5: times a week.
[15:21] Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. I was working then and head the room.
[15:24] Speaker 4: How old are your kids.
[15:26] Speaker 5: My son is eleven and my daughters fourteen.
[15:30] Speaker 4: And so you said, you said that was the only
[15:33] Speaker 4: thing holding.
[15:33] Speaker 5: You, And yeah, I mean I have a lot of family. Yeah,
[15:37] Speaker 5: but my family gonna love me regardless, huge family. Uh,
[15:40] Speaker 5: and they're gonna love me regardless.
[15:42] Speaker 4: Absolutely.
[15:43] Speaker 5: But I had to go where where my soul was
[15:47] Speaker 5: leading me. There it is, so let's go back.
[15:50] Speaker 4: How did y'all meet my God? So one day I
[16:00] Speaker 4: was like a preacher. One day mark bibles.
[16:09] Speaker 5: One day I was I was on Instagram. I followed
[16:12] Speaker 5: her a lot anyway. On Instagram, she was just so beautiful.
[16:16] Speaker 5: But you know, I want one of those awkward guys,
[16:18] Speaker 5: you know, jumping the d MS type thing. But one
[16:21] Speaker 5: day she took a picture and in this picture she
[16:25] Speaker 5: had no makeup on, and uh, it was like flawless
[16:31] Speaker 5: to me. And I was like, oh my god, I
[16:36] Speaker 5: have to jump in her d MS. And then she
[16:38] Speaker 5: had her toes out. It was just you know, uh, anyway, I'm.
[16:44] Speaker 4: Sorry, you must be related. I got a flip fetish lord. Yeah,
[16:48] Speaker 4: I don't know what.
[16:50] Speaker 1: That is.
[16:51] Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, but I think the Lord.
[16:56] Speaker 4: So I jumped in her d MS and.
[17:00] Speaker 2: And I was.
[17:00] Speaker 5: I was like, you know, it's a whim Like, you know,
[17:02] Speaker 5: she got three hundred and fifty thousand followers, so I'm
[17:07] Speaker 5: sure as a whole bunch.
[17:08] Speaker 4: Of men in her dms. Weren't a lot of video DMAs.
[17:12] Speaker 3: It was men and my dems.
[17:13] Speaker 1: It wasn't a lot, but it was, you know, on
[17:15] Speaker 1: a daily basis, somebody would say something to me.
[17:17] Speaker 3: It wasn't crazy.
[17:18] Speaker 5: So I was hoping to be the one that she
[17:20] Speaker 5: responded that she responded to. And I saw that picture
[17:25] Speaker 5: that morning and I d him her that morning. What
[17:28] Speaker 5: you say, ooh, it was so deep?
[17:32] Speaker 3: I mean, it was so deep.
[17:33] Speaker 1: That's why I responded, I always get the heart emojis, kissy,
[17:37] Speaker 1: So can I take you to dinner?
[17:39] Speaker 3: You're so pretty?
[17:40] Speaker 1: But he went down the line like it was like
[17:42] Speaker 1: two paragraphs really really took time.
[17:44] Speaker 3: It was just the words that he typed. I was
[17:46] Speaker 3: just like, I got to pay attention to this.
[17:49] Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I said some along the lines where
[17:51] Speaker 5: your your outward beauty I know, has.
[17:54] Speaker 4: To match your inward beauty. And I don't even know you.
[17:58] Speaker 2: And so.
[18:00] Speaker 4: Right there, holy goes right there again. She got Holy
[18:03] Speaker 4: ghost right there and shut the flash back it.
[18:04] Speaker 5: Was and it was a natural beauty though, because she
[18:07] Speaker 5: had no makeup on that picture.
[18:08] Speaker 4: She had just a dress. I don't know what she
[18:10] Speaker 4: like she was trying on.
[18:12] Speaker 3: I was in the dressing room trying on the dress.
[18:13] Speaker 4: So so so you're that comfortable to post yourself without makeup?
[18:16] Speaker 3: No, I wasn't.
[18:17] Speaker 1: Really my best friend shout out to Diane Roberts.
[18:22] Speaker 3: Brooks. She was like, uh, you need to bring this dress.
[18:26] Speaker 1: Because we was going on trying on like shapers, body
[18:28] Speaker 1: shapers and stuff. She was like, bring a dress with
[18:30] Speaker 1: you so you could try it on. We were just
[18:32] Speaker 1: trying on dresses. So when I was in there, she
[18:34] Speaker 1: was like, girl, take a picture in that. I'm like, Diane, no,
[18:38] Speaker 1: I don't have any makeup. My feet out. She's like,
[18:40] Speaker 1: take a picture. I'm telling you you snatched. So it
[18:42] Speaker 1: was just like a girl thing going back and forth.
[18:44] Speaker 1: I took the picture. It was like twelve am. I'm
[18:48] Speaker 1: just laying in the bed. I'm like, let me just
[18:50] Speaker 1: I was just gonna see you. I'm just go and
[18:52] Speaker 1: I just posted it and left it alone. Then that
[18:54] Speaker 1: next morning when I looked, he had DMV and we
[18:57] Speaker 1: think the Lord.
[18:57] Speaker 4: So tell me why it was important from a man's
[19:00] Speaker 4: that point to see her with no makeup.
[19:04] Speaker 5: Honestly, it's not you know, I'm pro women, so pictures
[19:09] Speaker 5: before I did. I did, but okay, so for this one,
[19:14] Speaker 5: it was like, if you can look this good in
[19:17] Speaker 5: your natural beauty, then the makeup is just a you
[19:21] Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So I know that you know,
[19:24] Speaker 5: I'm just I'm picturing well in the future, don't even notice.
[19:27] Speaker 4: That I'm like pitching, wake it up nextican come to her.
[19:31] Speaker 4: God on mine.
[19:33] Speaker 5: Absolutely, And that's what it was for me, you know,
[19:43] Speaker 5: because let's be really, when we first see a lady,
[19:47] Speaker 5: it's not the mind.
[19:51] Speaker 2: Over you.
[19:53] Speaker 5: You got to be a chatted to a person before
[19:55] Speaker 5: you can even talk to a person. Absolutely, because we
[19:58] Speaker 5: ain't walking up to busted.
[20:01] Speaker 4: At all.
[20:02] Speaker 5: But so that's what it was, you know, just seeing
[20:05] Speaker 5: her in that that natural form and knowing like cook,
[20:08] Speaker 5: like I can say good, I said, cook, God, my father,
[20:14] Speaker 5: and then I zoomed into them, told and my God.
[20:19] Speaker 1: Imagine being with somebody that has a foot fetish, but
[20:21] Speaker 1: you don't like your feet touched. At first, I was like,
[20:28] Speaker 1: please know what I said.
[20:36] Speaker 3: Okay, So.
[20:38] Speaker 4: She came around, came around, came over, came and so
[20:45] Speaker 4: and so what did how did you feel when she responded?
[20:47] Speaker 4: And what did you say when you respond? Do you remember, Tasha?
[20:50] Speaker 1: It was a back and forth exchange about He said
[20:54] Speaker 1: something about taking you out, and then he was like,
[20:57] Speaker 1: but you living Carrie. He tried to make fun trying
[21:00] Speaker 1: when I told him I lived in Carrie, North Carolina.
[21:02] Speaker 1: He was trying to say, it's no places, there ain't
[21:04] Speaker 1: nothing to carry. I'm like, wait a minute, I heard
[21:06] Speaker 1: Eli Busk got a house and Carrie, so why were
[21:08] Speaker 1: just going back? And then he didn't even ask me,
[21:13] Speaker 1: but I di vibe was just there. So I just
[21:16] Speaker 1: sent them my number.
[21:18] Speaker 4: I ain't asked, nothing to ask.
[21:21] Speaker 1: I'm like, let me get out of the Instagram. It's
[21:23] Speaker 1: too much for ig. Let's try to take this to
[21:27] Speaker 1: the next level.
[21:31] Speaker 5: Said your number. You think I could not believe it.
[21:35] Speaker 5: I was like, wait for cool, so let me zero
[21:39] Speaker 5: back a little bit, let me go back a little bit.
[21:41] Speaker 5: So when she responded, she kind of hearted my message.
[21:45] Speaker 5: So I'm thinking, you know, it's like she gave me
[21:47] Speaker 5: like one of those was praised God. You know, I'm like,
[21:51] Speaker 5: praise God.
[21:51] Speaker 2: What?
[21:53] Speaker 1: Because I went to his page and saw he was
[21:55] Speaker 1: a pastor. So at first, I mean I did read it,
[21:57] Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh, I got to pay
[21:59] Speaker 1: attention to this. Then I started doing some research. I'm like, pastor, No,
[22:04] Speaker 1: not another one.
[22:06] Speaker 4: No, not another one, another one, another one?
[22:16] Speaker 1: Right.
[22:18] Speaker 4: I gave her.
[22:18] Speaker 5: I gave it an hour, and I was like, man,
[22:21] Speaker 5: she done responded, How can I respond back? And so
[22:26] Speaker 5: I responded by, like, I know a thousand men talked
[22:30] Speaker 5: to you on a regular basis, but you responded back
[22:34] Speaker 5: to me. I just want to say thank you. I
[22:36] Speaker 5: understand your celebrity status and you know. And and then
[22:39] Speaker 5: she responded by And then that's when she told me
[22:41] Speaker 5: she lived in Curry. And I was like, well, the
[22:43] Speaker 5: only thing we can go to is a gas station
[22:45] Speaker 5: out there, because yeah, there ain't nothing out there. Whatever,
[22:52] Speaker 5: got the best she is everywhere. Get a little sandwich
[22:57] Speaker 5: or sheets. And then and then she sent me her number,
[23:01] Speaker 5: and I was like, wait a minute, one of my love.
[23:04] Speaker 1: Languages, if you could make me laugh, you're making me
[23:07] Speaker 1: laugh through text vibe too strong?
[23:10] Speaker 3: Bye, I g no.
[23:16] Speaker 5: And we got on the phone and we talked for
[23:18] Speaker 5: two hours. Yeah, the first time it was in the
[23:21] Speaker 5: morning time. First time and for two hours, and then
[23:24] Speaker 5: she hung up the phone, went to be with her
[23:27] Speaker 5: sisters and her mother and facetimed because honestly, the whole time,
[23:31] Speaker 5: I'm thinking it's fake. I don't know her voice like that. No,
[23:35] Speaker 5: I'm thinking it's somebody playing with me for real. But
[23:39] Speaker 5: then she facetimed me. Later on her mother was on
[23:42] Speaker 5: the phone. I was like about to wreck my car
[23:44] Speaker 5: because I was like, wait a minute, while am I
[23:46] Speaker 5: asking answer FaceTime?
[23:48] Speaker 4: Driving anyway? But anyway, and I was like.
[23:51] Speaker 5: Wow, she's this down to earth. We just vibing like crazy,
[23:57] Speaker 5: and honestly, from there it just took off.
[24:00] Speaker 2: I met I met Tosha on the phone last year
[24:03] Speaker 2: when I wanted to get your mom on the podcast,
[24:07] Speaker 2: mom went super duper viral. What would people know that
[24:12] Speaker 2: people that were introduced to her what TikTok vocal was
[24:17] Speaker 2: going on?
[24:19] Speaker 1: The Devil is a lie Yah yeah, yeah, And we
[24:23] Speaker 1: thought she was just playing, like how in the world
[24:27] Speaker 1: is this thing?
[24:29] Speaker 3: We just I thank God for.
[24:31] Speaker 1: What he's doing in her life. Is how everything happened,
[24:33] Speaker 1: It's been amazing.
[24:34] Speaker 2: And so that came at a very interesting time for
[24:39] Speaker 2: her life, the loss of her husband or how many.
[24:42] Speaker 3: Years, twenty seven No, yeah, twenty seven years.
[24:45] Speaker 4: Twenty seven years.
[24:46] Speaker 2: And we talked about her coming on the podcast, but
[24:49] Speaker 2: beautiful story, beautiful thing, and then that moment was her
[24:54] Speaker 2: You encourage her to get back record, get back into
[24:57] Speaker 2: the music industry, and she's like, don't nobody want ain't nobody.
[25:01] Speaker 1: I don't think I can do this without Dad. She
[25:03] Speaker 1: just kept saying, I don't know if I can do
[25:04] Speaker 1: this without him. He wasn't just her husband. He discovered her.
[25:07] Speaker 1: He was her producer, he wrote all the songs, he
[25:10] Speaker 1: was her manager, he was her pastor. It was a
[25:13] Speaker 1: lot losing all the line up, all those people. I
[25:16] Speaker 1: just said, that's like five jobs, that's five different people.
[25:20] Speaker 1: You lost all of that in one suit.
[25:23] Speaker 3: So it's been tough.
[25:26] Speaker 2: And then just recording that moment and that going super
[25:30] Speaker 2: duper viral and introducing her the generations that wouldn't even
[25:34] Speaker 2: know of her existence.
[25:36] Speaker 4: How encouraging was that for her?
[25:38] Speaker 1: It was very encouraging because it let her know like,
[25:40] Speaker 1: you still got a lot left in you. No people
[25:43] Speaker 1: need what you have, and so I thank God for that.
[25:46] Speaker 4: And so how do you feel about your future?
[25:51] Speaker 2: Dad is going to either be Willie Moore Junior, or
[25:53] Speaker 2: it's going to be Jonathan mc reynold's like, how do
[25:56] Speaker 2: you feel?
[25:57] Speaker 4: How you been coming to the acceptance of that. I
[26:01] Speaker 4: carry a pistol, You carry a pistol.
[26:03] Speaker 3: I go to the rain.
[26:04] Speaker 4: I understand that. But you got to let it.
[26:06] Speaker 2: You're too old to try to stop your mama from love.
[26:08] Speaker 2: You know these two men are pursuing your mama. Heavy
[26:14] Speaker 2: You feel like that. You know you done got on.
[26:16] Speaker 2: You not moved on and got your love. Your mama can't.
[26:18] Speaker 2: Your mama can't find her.
[26:19] Speaker 1: First of all, I want all of these young guys
[26:21] Speaker 1: to stay away from from mama. It's so funny. It's
[26:27] Speaker 1: just a fun We just got going. Willie Morton talked
[26:29] Speaker 1: about her a couple of times on the radio. The
[26:32] Speaker 1: White Stone to text me like where your mama? Tell
[26:34] Speaker 1: her to get over here, Willie works, I'm like, y'all
[26:36] Speaker 1: leave my bahlone. I talked about Obama. You stopped walking
[26:39] Speaker 1: away from that camera. Now walking away from walking away
[26:42] Speaker 1: from that camera, right all right?
[26:46] Speaker 2: Stop walking away from standing there looking at the camera
[26:53] Speaker 2: and so so yeah, man shout out to her. How
[26:56] Speaker 2: she's been doing.
[26:57] Speaker 1: She's doing good.
[26:58] Speaker 4: So she's doing great, she just wants to Yeah.
[27:01] Speaker 1: I think it's traditional female Gospel Artists of the Year.
[27:04] Speaker 1: That's our second one.
[27:06] Speaker 2: People don't even know. Ye, yes, legend, that's a legend.
[27:12] Speaker 2: I want you all go look who that is. That
[27:14] Speaker 2: is an absolute legend. And you'll see what we're talking
[27:18] Speaker 2: about when you start deep down.
[27:20] Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, that's the voice on his blessed words.
[27:24] Speaker 4: Yes, yes, legend.
[27:28] Speaker 2: And so pop up on FaceTime. You see the Mama,
[27:30] Speaker 2: you see Tasha. You're like, Okay, this is real, you know,
[27:34] Speaker 2: And what did you think? Where were you at in
[27:37] Speaker 2: your relationship journey? Like had you been divorced at this
[27:41] Speaker 2: moment or you been divorced with X amount of years?
[27:43] Speaker 4: What? What? What was your relationship journey at this point?
[27:46] Speaker 1: Will the truth.
[27:48] Speaker 4: The truth?
[27:49] Speaker 5: Amen?
[27:50] Speaker 4: Amen? Amen? So I was.
[27:53] Speaker 5: I was in the process of going through divorce. I
[27:58] Speaker 5: was in my own home, you know, in my own place,
[28:02] Speaker 5: and still pastoring and losing my mind, all of it,
[28:09] Speaker 5: all of it. I was at the altar crying out
[28:12] Speaker 5: to the Lord asking him why am I going through this?
[28:15] Speaker 5: Like the bird and the pain, everything was happening all
[28:19] Speaker 5: at once. This is you know, months before I met her,
[28:22] Speaker 5: and I was like, God, I don't want to go
[28:25] Speaker 5: through this. I don't understand this, you know. And the
[28:28] Speaker 5: Lord spoke to me and said, he said, I'm about
[28:32] Speaker 5: to place something in front of you that eyes have
[28:36] Speaker 5: not seen.
[28:37] Speaker 4: And I'm like, I don't want to see.
[28:39] Speaker 5: It, you know, because because I'm being real, Like I
[28:44] Speaker 5: was striving to keep what I had, you know, because
[28:47] Speaker 5: no man wants to go through something that he invested in.
[28:50] Speaker 5: Another man wanted to lose something that he invested in
[28:52] Speaker 5: at the time. But you know, I had to accept
[28:56] Speaker 5: what God allowed. I had to accept the moment and
[28:59] Speaker 5: accept what was going on in my past and so.
[29:05] Speaker 4: Be real. Can I be real?
[29:07] Speaker 5: A real platform what it is. I did not want
[29:10] Speaker 5: to get married again. I had to say it like that,
[29:15] Speaker 5: you told me to tell the truth. I was about
[29:19] Speaker 5: to be for the streets, absolutely the whole. I was like,
[29:23] Speaker 5: I'm not doing this again. I was about to be
[29:27] Speaker 5: outside and in these streets and and and I didn't
[29:35] Speaker 5: want another church girl, none of it. Long she loved
[29:40] Speaker 5: the Lord.
[29:40] Speaker 4: I was fine with it. You know, God, Okay, let's go.
[29:43] Speaker 5: You know.
[29:47] Speaker 4: Jesus, You know Jesus so and that's that's the mind
[29:51] Speaker 4: where how many years were you married. I was married, uh.
[29:58] Speaker 2: Six years, all right, six years? He and it was
[30:01] Speaker 2: at your first marriage only, man, oh that was my
[30:03] Speaker 2: that was my second marriage. Second marriage.
[30:05] Speaker 5: First marriage was ten years, ten years, so.
[30:08] Speaker 4: Sixteen years of marriage combined. You like, I don't want
[30:10] Speaker 4: to do it, no more, don't want to do it.
[30:12] Speaker 5: Don't want to do it because I was like, something's wrong,
[30:14] Speaker 5: must be wrong with me where you know, I need
[30:18] Speaker 5: to fix me. You know, although I can bring up
[30:21] Speaker 5: a whole lot of a whole lot of things from
[30:26] Speaker 5: the other end, but I was like, Lord, I need
[30:29] Speaker 5: to fix me. So I immediately went into counseling. And
[30:33] Speaker 5: I was in counseling for a year. Even I was
[30:35] Speaker 5: still in counseling when I met her.
[30:37] Speaker 4: You know that's good.
[30:39] Speaker 5: And I just kept going going because I did. I
[30:42] Speaker 5: didn't want to because I knew that honestly when I
[30:46] Speaker 5: married her. When I met her, I knew that the
[30:49] Speaker 5: Lord was setting us up. So I won't just meeting
[30:51] Speaker 5: her just to have fun. She wasn't a part of
[30:55] Speaker 5: the me being in the streets, and so I knew
[30:58] Speaker 5: that if God was, you know, well, let.
[31:00] Speaker 2: Me ask you just Tasha, you know, because you like
[31:03] Speaker 2: I ain't trying to marry another pastor?
[31:04] Speaker 4: Where was your heart at? Did you desire marriage at
[31:06] Speaker 4: that time?
[31:07] Speaker 3: I still desire I never gave up on love. I
[31:09] Speaker 3: always be married. And best version of me is when.
[31:12] Speaker 4: I'm married and you've been married how many times?
[31:14] Speaker 3: I had been married twice before?
[31:16] Speaker 2: All right, so you been married twice? He been married
[31:18] Speaker 2: twice before. But you still was hopeful. But you just
[31:20] Speaker 2: didn't want to pass us.
[31:21] Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
[31:22] Speaker 1: Why not because of the situation I was in before.
[31:25] Speaker 1: It was so traumatic and I was just like a
[31:30] Speaker 1: basketball player, a football player, a plumber something.
[31:35] Speaker 2: Just have a job.
[31:36] Speaker 1: Just love God, you got you gotta speak a tongue though,
[31:42] Speaker 1: you gotta be able to lay.
[31:43] Speaker 3: Hadn't zob me?
[31:44] Speaker 4: But you can't be a pastor league?
[31:46] Speaker 1: No, So I was just like God, why it was
[31:49] Speaker 1: just the be was just too strong, like really, the
[31:51] Speaker 1: chemistry it was so strong, it was undeniable.
[31:56] Speaker 2: And so when you found out, So when y'all met,
[31:58] Speaker 2: he was still married going through divorce.
[32:00] Speaker 4: How did you take that?
[32:02] Speaker 1: So he thought he was divorced, thought you're talking about
[32:11] Speaker 1: So I'll say this, I'll say this much.
[32:15] Speaker 3: I'll say I'll say this much.
[32:19] Speaker 1: It was a situation to where all the paperwork wasn't
[32:24] Speaker 1: turned in yet, it wasn't all way all the way
[32:27] Speaker 1: fu out and there was a out of sight, out
[32:29] Speaker 1: of mind type of thing.
[32:30] Speaker 3: It's like, oh, yeah, I signed it. You know what
[32:32] Speaker 3: I mean.
[32:32] Speaker 1: You're busy with your life. You passed around, you moving,
[32:34] Speaker 1: and you moving, you're moving, and then all of a sudden,
[32:36] Speaker 1: it's like, no, this is not all the way done.
[32:38] Speaker 1: And so we were faced with something early on in
[32:41] Speaker 1: our relationship, after we were already after we already had
[32:45] Speaker 1: feelings for one another, where I had to make a
[32:47] Speaker 1: decision do I stay or do I leave? And so
[32:51] Speaker 1: I chose to stay because I saw work in it.
[32:53] Speaker 1: I saw I saw him for the man who he
[32:55] Speaker 1: really is.
[32:56] Speaker 4: So he told you that, he told you that, hey,
[32:58] Speaker 4: this wasn't foul.
[32:59] Speaker 5: Uh uh.
[33:00] Speaker 3: I'm still honest with me from the beginning, absolutely.
[33:02] Speaker 4: And let you make an informed decision. Yes, and you
[33:06] Speaker 4: did that.
[33:06] Speaker 1: That's what won me over though. Like when because it
[33:10] Speaker 1: was out of state relationship, London's relationship, I had caught
[33:14] Speaker 1: like four people trying to vent him. I was like,
[33:16] Speaker 1: what do you know about die? I called four people,
[33:20] Speaker 1: And when I called those people, they confirmed everything he
[33:23] Speaker 1: told really everything he told me.
[33:25] Speaker 3: He never lied from the beginning, so they.
[33:26] Speaker 4: Knew that you were separated.
[33:29] Speaker 5: Yeah, so I mean you wouldn't try a lot of
[33:32] Speaker 5: people didn't know my business. Yeah, I kept my business private.
[33:36] Speaker 5: But you know, through different circumstances, a lot of people
[33:40] Speaker 5: started realizing that, oh they're not together no more, you know,
[33:44] Speaker 5: you know, because it was it has been a year already,
[33:47] Speaker 5: and you know, we just I was just very.
[33:49] Speaker 4: Private with mine.
[33:51] Speaker 5: I didn't go on Facebook and put separated like people do,
[33:55] Speaker 5: like you know, and so I just kept moving and
[33:58] Speaker 5: kept dealing with what I had to deal with.
[34:00] Speaker 4: Uh.
[34:00] Speaker 5: And I didn't even know that she knew anybody from Virginia,
[34:05] Speaker 5: so for me, But I know in the music industry,
[34:09] Speaker 5: and it just people just know think they know everything
[34:13] Speaker 5: and really don't know half of nothing. You know, they
[34:15] Speaker 5: just know what they think they know. But you know,
[34:18] Speaker 5: I just chose to be honest from the from the beginning.
[34:20] Speaker 5: That's good though, Yeah, And you know, honestly is the
[34:23] Speaker 5: best policy. It is, regardless of how much it hurts,
[34:27] Speaker 5: because I honestly hurts sometimes it does, you know, But
[34:31] Speaker 5: I thank God for opening up doors now now she
[34:34] Speaker 5: ain't telling the full truth because she broke up with
[34:37] Speaker 5: me about three times, and.
[34:45] Speaker 1: It wasn't anything that he was doing. Because I had
[34:48] Speaker 1: never given my chance, given myself a chance to actually.
[34:51] Speaker 3: Date like I was. I wanted to see. I wanted
[34:54] Speaker 3: to see from.
[34:55] Speaker 4: From your divorce and meeting him. How many? How long
[34:59] Speaker 4: was that from your past husband, Sonny?
[35:05] Speaker 3: Three years?
[35:06] Speaker 4: And you still didn't have enough time dating three year olds?
[35:08] Speaker 1: Because that first year after that was healing, all right.
[35:11] Speaker 1: I wasn't no, It wasn't no. I wasn't even in
[35:14] Speaker 1: a mindset or wasn't no dating after that. It was healing.
[35:18] Speaker 1: It was get your mind back. So once I did
[35:23] Speaker 1: get permission from the Lord to start dating again, I did.
[35:28] Speaker 1: I wasn't in a relationship that didn't that ended, and
[35:32] Speaker 1: then I was just dating different people I wanted to see.
[35:36] Speaker 1: Twenty year old Tasha and forty year old Tasha is
[35:38] Speaker 1: two different things. When you're dating in your twenties, you're
[35:42] Speaker 1: talking about what you aspire to be. This is what
[35:44] Speaker 1: we're gonna do together, and we're gonna travel the world,
[35:46] Speaker 1: and we're gonna write songs, and we're gonna tour and
[35:48] Speaker 1: we're gonna d da da da da. We're gonna have
[35:50] Speaker 1: two kids and a dog and a picket fit and
[35:53] Speaker 1: it's all that. When you're forty years old, it's like
[35:56] Speaker 1: a history lesson and this snow over here. You know,
[36:00] Speaker 1: I felt and broke my arm when I was eleven,
[36:02] Speaker 1: and that's what that's from. And then I had surgery,
[36:04] Speaker 1: and then.
[36:05] Speaker 4: That's why this is crooked.
[36:07] Speaker 1: I was tired of it. It was too much. I'm
[36:11] Speaker 1: just going to have to keep repeating all of this
[36:13] Speaker 1: every time, like, come on.
[36:15] Speaker 4: History lesson, it is and so, but you still wanted
[36:20] Speaker 4: more time you met this guy.
[36:21] Speaker 2: You felt the vibe was undeniable, y'all clicking, y'all that,
[36:25] Speaker 2: And then at what point how long were y'all dating
[36:29] Speaker 2: each other before you said I just need more time
[36:33] Speaker 2: to go explore.
[36:34] Speaker 3: I never said that.
[36:35] Speaker 1: I never said I need more time to go explore.
[36:37] Speaker 1: I was just like, I can't remember how I said.
[36:42] Speaker 4: What she said the first time?
[36:45] Speaker 5: What does she say, Lord ha mercy, I'm trying to
[36:47] Speaker 5: remember the circumstance she.
[36:49] Speaker 4: Just came back from.
[36:51] Speaker 1: I went on a fashion.
[36:54] Speaker 5: It was because here's the problem. The Lord told me
[36:57] Speaker 5: in the midst of us dating that she was going
[37:00] Speaker 5: to be my wife. So here shit comes going on
[37:04] Speaker 5: the fast at the end of the fast, telling me, oh,
[37:08] Speaker 5: I don't think this is gonna work.
[37:10] Speaker 4: I was say.
[37:15] Speaker 1: To be sure.
[37:16] Speaker 5: I was like, cause I ain't tell her at that
[37:19] Speaker 5: time what the Lord was sharing with me. But I'm like,
[37:22] Speaker 5: these moves ain't making sense, Like what are you talking about?
[37:26] Speaker 4: And you know, so I let it.
[37:28] Speaker 5: You know, the next day, you know, I'm thinking, to
[37:32] Speaker 5: my mind, man, I missed this girl so much and
[37:35] Speaker 5: we talked all day law every day, so I'm like talking.
[37:39] Speaker 5: But when she called me, I'm like, oh my god,
[37:42] Speaker 5: she called, what's the first time? Okay, the second time.
[37:47] Speaker 4: I get back together. I just kept talking, just kept
[37:49] Speaker 4: talking every day.
[37:50] Speaker 5: I kept talking every day.
[37:51] Speaker 1: Stop talking to her, I keep talking to him and
[37:56] Speaker 1: was like, I don't think this is going to work.
[37:57] Speaker 1: My initial reason though, even though I need the time,
[38:00] Speaker 1: when when I said I don't think this is going
[38:02] Speaker 1: to work after coming off of that fast, it's because
[38:04] Speaker 1: the Lord has spoke something to me during that fast
[38:06] Speaker 1: and he was like, you've given me everything but your body. Okay, God,
[38:11] Speaker 1: you know you've given it every and I need you
[38:13] Speaker 1: to give me that. And so I had to do
[38:15] Speaker 1: that that was that was for me. I had to
[38:17] Speaker 1: do that because the vibrus.
[38:18] Speaker 4: The vibe was too too strong.
[38:20] Speaker 5: And I was like, God, oh oh so, and imagine
[38:24] Speaker 5: me and like, hold on, how you leaving me because
[38:28] Speaker 5: we vibing too How you.
[38:31] Speaker 1: Leave somebody that's too good?
[38:33] Speaker 4: I was like no, God said, sabotage, And y'all just
[38:37] Speaker 4: kept each other. And then and then she did it again.
[38:40] Speaker 4: How long from the first time and second time? About
[38:43] Speaker 4: two months she did it again.
[38:45] Speaker 5: I said, wait a minute now. So at this point
[38:48] Speaker 5: I'm frustrated. I'm like, you ain't gonna keep doing that.
[38:51] Speaker 4: And by the time, you still didn't tell her that
[38:52] Speaker 4: you that God told you that wife. I didn't, and
[38:56] Speaker 4: I didn't changed anything.
[39:00] Speaker 1: The second time he did tell me.
[39:01] Speaker 2: But the first time after he told you the first time,
[39:03] Speaker 2: if he said, listen, God said you my wife, like
[39:07] Speaker 2: I want to marry you and it's going to be
[39:09] Speaker 2: in this period of time, would that have changed anything.
[39:12] Speaker 3: He had already told me he wanted to marry me.
[39:13] Speaker 1: He didn't say God said, already told me he wanted
[39:17] Speaker 1: to marry me, like two weeks.
[39:21] Speaker 5: There's a reason why two weeks, two weeks, two weeks
[39:25] Speaker 5: I already knew.
[39:26] Speaker 4: But here's the reason. She told me.
[39:28] Speaker 5: Do you know all these men always say that the
[39:30] Speaker 5: Lord said that I.
[39:32] Speaker 1: Was they, I said, I went on five dates and
[39:36] Speaker 1: all of them said, in the first week, you're my wife.
[39:39] Speaker 1: I said, what makes you anything?
[39:41] Speaker 5: I'm telling y'all, I ain't going to ever say that. Then, No,
[39:46] Speaker 5: I'm saying that. But I old the Lord I served
[39:49] Speaker 5: on a lot of me.
[39:50] Speaker 4: So what is this going on.
[39:53] Speaker 1: I'm just tired of hearing that you're going on a
[39:56] Speaker 1: date with somebody. For the first time, we had Ruth
[39:58] Speaker 1: Chris and you lean over. We and the Lord said
[40:01] Speaker 1: you my wife?
[40:02] Speaker 4: What Lord?
[40:07] Speaker 5: So that second time, honestly, she did it again, and
[40:12] Speaker 5: she called back the next day and I did not
[40:14] Speaker 5: want to answer the phone. I looked at that, I
[40:17] Speaker 5: looked that name, and I said hello, I said, it's
[40:23] Speaker 5: just like that. So the frustration, man.
[40:27] Speaker 4: Because I felt like she was playing with me. Now,
[40:29] Speaker 4: why why are you playing with me?
[40:31] Speaker 5: And then this is the right and then this is
[40:34] Speaker 5: the Lord reminded me, I told you she's going to
[40:37] Speaker 5: be your wife. I said, well, Lord, you need to
[40:39] Speaker 5: tell her because because I keep breaking up with me
[40:42] Speaker 5: in my life. Right for getting me all just my
[40:46] Speaker 5: grains and the hot burn. But it was a true
[40:53] Speaker 5: test of when the Lord speaks, and you know it's him.
[40:57] Speaker 5: You can't you can't, you can't get distracted that, you
[41:00] Speaker 5: can't run away. You can allow other things in. You know,
[41:04] Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest with you. You know, I started
[41:07] Speaker 5: looking to entertain something else because I'm like, she keep breaking.
[41:10] Speaker 4: Up with me, serious about me.
[41:13] Speaker 5: Let me not set my heart up for failure, and
[41:17] Speaker 5: so in order to do that, let me entertain something else.
[41:21] Speaker 5: But I just could not get away from number one
[41:24] Speaker 5: what the Lord said.
[41:25] Speaker 3: But you know what I want to sorry to cut
[41:27] Speaker 3: you off.
[41:27] Speaker 1: I want to interject right here because I'm glad you
[41:29] Speaker 1: didn't pull that card. I'm glad you didn't because it
[41:32] Speaker 1: could seem like manipulation what I'm saying for him, somebody
[41:36] Speaker 1: say no to say God said you're my wife. For
[41:39] Speaker 1: him not to say that, Yeah, I'm glad he didn't
[41:40] Speaker 1: say that, and he allowed me to see it for myself.
[41:43] Speaker 4: Yeah, and so when did you start saying it? After
[41:45] Speaker 4: the third time?
[41:46] Speaker 1: Lord reminded me three times three times after that, the
[41:51] Speaker 1: Lord reminded me of a prayer that I prayed right
[41:53] Speaker 1: before I met him, which is what. So I was
[41:55] Speaker 1: walking through a hotel lobby. I had been doing different
[41:58] Speaker 1: things to prepare to be married. I knew it was
[42:00] Speaker 1: going to happen. I didn't know it was going to
[42:02] Speaker 1: be that soon. I didn't know who was going to
[42:04] Speaker 1: be and I had almost narrowed it down. It was
[42:06] Speaker 1: like two or three contenders. I was like, okay, one
[42:09] Speaker 1: of them. It's gonna be one, two.
[42:11] Speaker 3: Or three mm hmmm.
[42:14] Speaker 1: And the lords and my godmother was like, it's you're
[42:17] Speaker 1: doing too much and it's like a traffic jam and
[42:19] Speaker 1: you need to stop.
[42:21] Speaker 3: And I shut it all down.
[42:24] Speaker 1: I shut it. It's like a traffic jam, you need
[42:26] Speaker 1: to stop. And I shut it all down. And I
[42:30] Speaker 1: was reminded of a prayer. Two prayers that I prayed.
[42:33] Speaker 1: One was, Lord, recalibrate my frequency so that I can
[42:36] Speaker 1: attract something different, because I keep attracting the same type
[42:40] Speaker 1: of men. So I started deep, digging deep and looking
[42:44] Speaker 1: internally to see the things that I am requiring.
[42:48] Speaker 3: From a man. Am I doing those things myself? How
[42:51] Speaker 3: is my credit? What am I doing?
[42:53] Speaker 4: Like? Well?
[42:53] Speaker 3: How am I functioning? Am I heeled? Am I was?
[42:56] Speaker 3: I in therapy?
[42:57] Speaker 2: Was I.
[42:57] Speaker 1: So I started like really diving deep in to my
[43:00] Speaker 1: own personal healing and doing the work. And then I
[43:03] Speaker 1: prayed a prayer walking through a hotel lobby. I said, God,
[43:07] Speaker 1: please let my husband find me. Please. It was that simple.
[43:10] Speaker 1: I was like, please let my husband find me. And
[43:13] Speaker 1: then that's when he had DM me. Two weeks later,
[43:15] Speaker 1: the Lord reminded me of that. He was like, I
[43:17] Speaker 1: gave you all the confirmations that you need. You asked
[43:21] Speaker 1: me for this, and I gave you what you asked
[43:22] Speaker 1: me for. And I was And then he took me
[43:24] Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico for my birthday. And when we went
[43:27] Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico, the moment that we shared it was
[43:29] Speaker 1: just like we came back from there.
[43:31] Speaker 3: I was like, okay.
[43:33] Speaker 1: We had a conversation at his apartment and we was like.
[43:36] Speaker 1: I was like, are you gonna stop playing with me?
[43:38] Speaker 1: He was like, you're gonna stop playing with me, because
[43:39] Speaker 1: that's how we talked to each other.
[43:41] Speaker 4: You're gonna stop.
[43:41] Speaker 3: Playing with me. I was like, okay, Ya'm gonna stop playing.
[43:43] Speaker 2: So the third breakup happened before Puerto Rico. Yes, And okay,
[43:47] Speaker 2: when the third why did how far? So?
[43:50] Speaker 4: Was it every two months?
[43:52] Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't like planned or time somehow on
[43:55] Speaker 1: the system. You gotta understand for the first time the
[44:00] Speaker 1: first time I got married, I got married because my
[44:04] Speaker 1: son's father, CJ's father, Cliff, helped me get off drugs.
[44:08] Speaker 1: I was addicted to cocaine and we were I've been
[44:11] Speaker 1: knowing him all my life.
[44:12] Speaker 4: We grew up.
[44:13] Speaker 1: That was my first boyfriend. I ever had everything. So
[44:16] Speaker 1: he helped me get off drugs. And when he took
[44:19] Speaker 1: me from Detroit to Atlanta, we was living together and
[44:23] Speaker 1: so we grew up in church and holiness. He looked
[44:25] Speaker 1: at me and was like, do you still love me?
[44:27] Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I love you.
[44:28] Speaker 1: I was like, you still love me? He said yeah,
[44:30] Speaker 1: And he was like, we can't be shocking up. We
[44:33] Speaker 1: can't live, we can't sleep in the same bed together,
[44:35] Speaker 1: we can't be having sex.
[44:36] Speaker 3: We got to get married.
[44:37] Speaker 1: So it wasn't you know it was it was that
[44:40] Speaker 1: it was like we just wanted to please God, but
[44:42] Speaker 1: neither one of us was equipped to be married.
[44:45] Speaker 3: We didn't have the tools. We didn't we just were young.
[44:47] Speaker 1: I was twenty three years old and I just was
[44:49] Speaker 1: scared that if I went back to Detroit, I was
[44:51] Speaker 1: going to get back on cocaine.
[44:53] Speaker 4: Did what led you to drugs? Was it battling with
[44:57] Speaker 4: the sexual assauce that you experienced at a young age.
[45:00] Speaker 4: It was.
[45:00] Speaker 3: It was battling with that.
[45:02] Speaker 1: It was keeping that secret because I didn't want to
[45:06] Speaker 1: be I didn't want to tear my family up, and
[45:08] Speaker 1: I was afraid of the person that did it. So
[45:12] Speaker 1: it was a lot going on in my mind. And
[45:14] Speaker 1: I saw other people in the family try to come
[45:16] Speaker 1: forward and nobody believed them, so that victim shaming was
[45:19] Speaker 1: a big issue for me. And I'm like, they're not
[45:21] Speaker 1: going to believe me anyway, So why would I even
[45:23] Speaker 1: put myself out there like that? And I held that
[45:26] Speaker 1: for I didn't start talking about it until I was
[45:29] Speaker 1: thirty years old.
[45:30] Speaker 5: Wow, And it happened in middle school?
[45:34] Speaker 4: And how were you introduced to cocaine.
[45:37] Speaker 1: Being in the studio around different people that were doing it,
[45:41] Speaker 1: just being influenced that way and wanting to do music
[45:44] Speaker 1: so bad, And you know, I always looked at rug
[45:48] Speaker 1: drug drug addiction and drug abuse when you see people
[45:51] Speaker 1: on the streets and homeless people and stuff like that,
[45:53] Speaker 1: So I never wanted to look like that. That was
[45:56] Speaker 1: it was drug addiction for me, had a look to it,
[45:58] Speaker 1: but the people that I was around, they didn't look
[46:00] Speaker 1: like that. And I was like, yeah, wait a minute,
[46:03] Speaker 1: if y'all could do in the night. It took me
[46:05] Speaker 1: down a five year ride. I mean, it really broke me.
[46:11] Speaker 4: At what ages you're in your twenties, yeah, I was
[46:15] Speaker 4: in my twenties, I was.
[46:16] Speaker 1: It started when I was like maybe between like seventeen
[46:18] Speaker 1: and eighteen. It started with like exsta cpls, volumes and vikings,
[46:22] Speaker 1: and then it escalated all the way to cocaine to
[46:25] Speaker 1: we were putting heroin in our blunts.
[46:27] Speaker 3: Like yeah, I was a hardcore drug addict.
[46:30] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[46:30] Speaker 4: Wow. He did that for five years and it just
[46:34] Speaker 4: you said he helped you get off of it. Did
[46:36] Speaker 4: you go through treatment or just I never went through treatment.
[46:39] Speaker 4: I went through the Bible. Really, I went through every
[46:42] Speaker 4: time the doors opened.
[46:43] Speaker 1: I was at that church, every service, every Bible study, everything,
[46:47] Speaker 1: and I'll never forget. I am so grateful to Bishop
[46:52] Speaker 1: Jerron Williams out of Atlanta, Georgia and New Life International
[46:56] Speaker 1: Family Church. They really and doctor LaToya Hey Williams, they
[47:00] Speaker 1: really took time with me and loved me where I
[47:04] Speaker 1: was and helped me get delivered.
[47:05] Speaker 4: Yes, during that time, you're still singing.
[47:07] Speaker 3: I was still singing, and you'll.
[47:09] Speaker 4: You'll be singing and then your goal on a three four.
[47:11] Speaker 3: Day binge of getting high.
[47:13] Speaker 4: Wow.
[47:14] Speaker 3: And then I would stay going.
[47:15] Speaker 1: Like I would tell my mom when I was still
[47:17] Speaker 1: living at the house with them, I would say, I'm
[47:19] Speaker 1: going downstairs, because we lived in the high rise and
[47:21] Speaker 1: we had a penthouse on the nineteenth floor. And I
[47:23] Speaker 1: would say I'm going downstairs to wash clothes, and she
[47:26] Speaker 1: was like, okay. They wouldn't see me for two weeks.
[47:31] Speaker 1: What would would you get high? Having sex, getting high,
[47:34] Speaker 1: parlaying out at the club, strip club? I was singing
[47:37] Speaker 1: at strip clubs while girls was dancing. I want to
[47:39] Speaker 1: tell you, I'm listen.
[47:40] Speaker 4: I've lived.
[47:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've done a lot. And so when you
[47:46] Speaker 1: see me singing like I'm crazy, it's because I used
[47:49] Speaker 1: to be crazy. God didn't work over me.
[47:52] Speaker 4: But buddy, yeah, victory is mine and so here it is.
[48:06] Speaker 4: So now you broke up with the third time, you'll
[48:08] Speaker 4: know where that was, Whether that was every two months,
[48:10] Speaker 4: you don't know because you just you just responding in trauma.
[48:14] Speaker 4: And what the third time? How you responded at D'Angelo.
[48:19] Speaker 5: It was the same way, but one thing about me,
[48:23] Speaker 5: When the Lord tells me something, I have to hold
[48:25] Speaker 5: on to it. And with that, her birthday was coming
[48:30] Speaker 5: up and we won't even together, we won't officially like together,
[48:36] Speaker 5: and I was like, you know what, I love her
[48:39] Speaker 5: though I'm already head over here. And it's not because
[48:44] Speaker 5: of her celebrity. I found her mind like we our
[48:49] Speaker 5: minds connected, our hearts connected, and and so I was.
[48:53] Speaker 5: I would be so heartbroken when she would break up
[48:56] Speaker 5: with me, but I could not let it go. I
[48:59] Speaker 5: knew it was something there when she kept calling me
[49:01] Speaker 5: even though she was breaking up with me. And so
[49:04] Speaker 5: when her birthday came, I said, look, let me take
[49:07] Speaker 5: you out. She had no plans, and I asked her
[49:10] Speaker 5: and she was like, I don't know, and I'm thinking
[49:13] Speaker 5: to my mind here here, I'm thinking of my mind,
[49:15] Speaker 5: which one of them negroles is trying to take her out?
[49:20] Speaker 4: And let me be the first. Absolutely, I ain't never
[49:22] Speaker 4: told her that, So that's why she looked at me.
[49:25] Speaker 4: So I was like, you know what, your play even
[49:29] Speaker 4: if even if we ain't together for real, I'm gonna
[49:31] Speaker 4: put someone.
[49:32] Speaker 5: The mind going to I'm going to make her let
[49:34] Speaker 5: her know that loften ain't nothing to play with.
[49:37] Speaker 3: It, and so, uh, I'm sorry.
[49:45] Speaker 4: So with Puerto Rico getting back to the hotel room
[49:50] Speaker 4: and just keep talking that this all before.
[49:54] Speaker 1: God.
[49:56] Speaker 4: I went to Puerto Rico with your name my God
[50:02] Speaker 4: cash in.
[50:06] Speaker 5: I went there and had a great time. Uh that
[50:10] Speaker 5: was my first time, you know, going to Puerto Rico
[50:12] Speaker 5: as well.
[50:12] Speaker 4: And so came back and.
[50:16] Speaker 5: We sat down and she was like, look, I know
[50:19] Speaker 5: you've been messing around. I went on a few dates.
[50:24] Speaker 5: What are we doing because I'm willing to drop everything
[50:29] Speaker 5: to be with you because I love you.
[50:31] Speaker 4: Who said that? Tom said that? So where did this
[50:34] Speaker 4: come from?
[50:35] Speaker 1: I just never had somebody to not play about me
[50:38] Speaker 1: like you, never had anybody to really stand on their
[50:42] Speaker 1: words and everything he said he was going to do,
[50:45] Speaker 1: he always doesn't.
[50:46] Speaker 4: That's good.
[50:48] Speaker 5: Yeah, And so I was like, well, let me go.
[50:52] Speaker 5: I'm serious about you too. I already know what the
[50:54] Speaker 5: Lord said. But I begin to entertain before then because
[50:59] Speaker 5: I didn't want my heart absolutely crush.
[51:02] Speaker 4: And so, and with good reasons, you keep doing it.
[51:06] Speaker 1: I don't, please, don't, don't don't watch this and be like,
[51:09] Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm gonna do. Listen, it's only by the
[51:11] Speaker 1: grace of God that this man still ask his phone.
[51:13] Speaker 1: After all, don't try that at home.
[51:18] Speaker 4: A man.
[51:19] Speaker 3: Don't play with him like that.
[51:20] Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you why you shouldn't play with him,
[51:22] Speaker 2: because at a certain point, when a man gets healed,
[51:26] Speaker 2: it's certain things.
[51:27] Speaker 4: He knows his own threshold. And so it's prayers that
[51:30] Speaker 4: I prayed. I said, God, I want my wife to
[51:32] Speaker 4: recognize me as I recognize her, so you may give
[51:36] Speaker 4: me confirmation that you're not the one, because you may
[51:39] Speaker 4: be playing games and I'm like, oh no, my wife
[51:41] Speaker 4: would never play with my heart like that.
[51:42] Speaker 2: You don't know what my threshold of pain is. You
[51:45] Speaker 2: don't know what my threshold of value is. That if
[51:47] Speaker 2: I know that I keep letting you do that, then
[51:49] Speaker 2: that's going to send me back in the therapy that
[51:51] Speaker 2: I've been through, because my therapist may be like, may
[51:54] Speaker 2: sit down with me and say another Terrris, this is
[51:57] Speaker 2: a thread in your life. You keep trying to earn value.
[52:00] Speaker 2: You keep trying to my love like when just words
[52:02] Speaker 2: of affirmation. And so if I don't manage that well,
[52:05] Speaker 2: then I may put myself in a place where I'm
[52:07] Speaker 2: trying to seek approval from somebody, and at the end
[52:10] Speaker 2: of the day, when you get healed in value like
[52:12] Speaker 2: oh you you don't see me, you don't know me,
[52:13] Speaker 2: God bless you. I'm gonna go to somebody who does.
[52:16] Speaker 4: And so I can understand what my brother DiAngelo is saying,
[52:19] Speaker 4: because he's saying, Okay, you.
[52:20] Speaker 2: Keep I'm being serious about you, but you keep rejecting me. Now,
[52:24] Speaker 2: I can't force myself to.
[52:25] Speaker 4: Be with you.
[52:26] Speaker 2: I can't make you, I can't convince you, I can't
[52:28] Speaker 2: persuade you. I'm showing up as a man. Do you
[52:30] Speaker 2: see me the way I see you? No? Well, it's
[52:33] Speaker 2: the third time you said no. I don't need to
[52:34] Speaker 2: be convinced anymore. But here's the thing, though, what kept
[52:37] Speaker 2: me just wanting to hold on is because she had
[52:41] Speaker 2: all the intangibles that I love, and in fact, she
[52:43] Speaker 2: kept calling you right, and she kept calling me because
[52:46] Speaker 2: I went through you know, I had to find out
[52:50] Speaker 2: what I even loved as a child.
[52:54] Speaker 5: I've never shared this publicly. As a child, I was abused,
[53:00] Speaker 5: actually abused by my father, and I didn't know what
[53:06] Speaker 5: love is. But I did everything I could do to
[53:10] Speaker 5: ensure that I wouldn't fall into the stereotypical type that
[53:15] Speaker 5: if you are sexually molested by the same gender, that
[53:21] Speaker 5: you're going to turn up being attracted to the same gender, right,
[53:26] Speaker 5: And so everything I did growing up, I tried to
[53:31] Speaker 5: fight that narrative and I did you know what I'm saying,
[53:34] Speaker 5: and I pray and I asked the Lord never to
[53:37] Speaker 5: allow me to be attracted to that and or fall
[53:40] Speaker 5: into that, because that was a seed, you know, that
[53:42] Speaker 5: was being planted.
[53:43] Speaker 4: And so.
[53:45] Speaker 5: While doing that, though, I found myself not knowing what
[53:50] Speaker 5: I desired because the only thing that I knew love
[53:56] Speaker 5: was or thought love was, was from the wrong thing.
[54:01] Speaker 5: And the Lord had to show me me. He had
[54:05] Speaker 5: to deliver me out of the mindset of hatred. He
[54:09] Speaker 5: had to deliver me out of the mindset of stop
[54:12] Speaker 5: trying to cover up you're trying to stop trying to
[54:17] Speaker 5: cover up things, or how can I say, stop trying
[54:21] Speaker 5: to overdo things so you won't feel a certain way,
[54:26] Speaker 5: because I was trying to at some point mess with
[54:30] Speaker 5: as many as women as I could so I would
[54:33] Speaker 5: never fall or sink into thinking that being with the
[54:37] Speaker 5: same gender as something I should do. So instead of
[54:41] Speaker 5: being delivered. I was trying to deliver myself there it is,
[54:46] Speaker 5: but that ain't the right way to go either. Absolutely,
[54:50] Speaker 5: you know, now you fallen into being a hormonger and
[54:54] Speaker 5: all kinds of things. And so it took the Lord
[54:58] Speaker 5: God Almighty to really delivered me out of that mindset.
[55:03] Speaker 4: And and that's how you know.
[55:05] Speaker 5: I was young when I got in my first marriage,
[55:08] Speaker 5: and so very very young, and I had no idea.
[55:11] Speaker 5: I was twenty two and you were hallo tas to
[55:14] Speaker 5: twenty three. Yeah, so yeah, we had the same stories. Yeah,
[55:20] Speaker 5: you know, and so the Lord had to grow me
[55:24] Speaker 5: up real good. And so from that moment, I'm growing
[55:27] Speaker 5: and growing. And I thought in my second marriage, I
[55:30] Speaker 5: thought I found what I was looking for. And I
[55:34] Speaker 5: was just really trying to escape the first yep. So
[55:38] Speaker 5: but when I met her, literally everything that I desired
[55:43] Speaker 5: from a woman, everything that I wanted her, touch her,
[55:48] Speaker 5: feel her cotton, the fabric of our life, everything, y'all
[55:56] Speaker 5: can use that, everything that I always dreamed of.
[56:00] Speaker 2: I mean, because clearly the third time you got to
[56:03] Speaker 2: know the fact you introduced therapy into your life. So
[56:09] Speaker 2: you know, after the second time, had you gone through therapy, after.
[56:12] Speaker 5: The first divorce did not did not first or the second.
[56:15] Speaker 4: So you say, I'm gonna do something different, right.
[56:17] Speaker 5: And so that's how I knew that the Lord was
[56:20] Speaker 5: really moving and really ordaining the moment. It is because
[56:25] Speaker 5: He brought forth something in front of me that I
[56:29] Speaker 5: always desired my entire life. And and and so some
[56:34] Speaker 5: people are not going to understand our relationship.
[56:38] Speaker 4: And it's okay, right, Why do you say that?
[56:41] Speaker 5: Because you know people not going to understand timelines, They're
[56:45] Speaker 5: going to feel like, oh, y'all should have waited longer
[56:48] Speaker 5: than that. Y'all should have you know, you should have
[56:51] Speaker 5: did this, and you should have did get out my
[56:53] Speaker 5: business number one. But absolutely, but number two, when it's God,
[56:58] Speaker 5: God is going to do so then if we're looking
[57:01] Speaker 5: for God to do something extraordinary, then my timeline ain't
[57:06] Speaker 5: gonna work. None of the things that you think I
[57:10] Speaker 5: should do isn't gonna work when it's God.
[57:13] Speaker 4: Right now, I don't you know?
[57:14] Speaker 5: Of course, be healed, be made free, absolutely, but save
[57:20] Speaker 5: room for God to work. H How in the world
[57:23] Speaker 5: am I gonna say it ain't time enough when God
[57:26] Speaker 5: is setting before me everything that I desire.
[57:30] Speaker 1: You Confirmation after confirmation it's like.
[57:33] Speaker 4: Prophecies after prophecy.
[57:34] Speaker 2: He's gonna give me a timeline y'all. Y'all when y'all
[57:37] Speaker 2: met and then said I do well? Was no, when
[57:40] Speaker 2: y'all met and got engaged. What was the timeline?
[57:44] Speaker 1: We in September, September of twenty four, twenty twenty four,
[57:49] Speaker 1: got engage and.
[57:53] Speaker 2: No, that's in June, June. I'm sorry, Junior, this year. June,
[57:57] Speaker 2: this year, y'all got engaged in June.
[58:00] Speaker 4: So what is that about? Nine months later?
[58:02] Speaker 3: About eight?
[58:04] Speaker 4: Yeah, and then y'all got married June twenty six, so'all
[58:08] Speaker 4: got engaged and it got married the same month. Yes, sir,
[58:10] Speaker 4: so y'all got engaged. So what happened to?
[58:12] Speaker 1: Were talking, talking, talking, just like he did with the
[58:16] Speaker 1: other thing.
[58:17] Speaker 4: Were looking at each other.
[58:18] Speaker 1: We had we had a dinner table full of his
[58:19] Speaker 1: family and were just laughing and having a good time.
[58:22] Speaker 1: He was like, girl, you look so good. I marry you.
[58:25] Speaker 1: I marry you this week. I'm like, stop playing, or
[58:29] Speaker 1: you won't? He like, I will I marry you Thursday.
[58:32] Speaker 1: I was like, if you don't shut up, So I
[58:37] Speaker 1: overhear him on the phone talking to his uncle. That's
[58:39] Speaker 1: the pastor like, yeah, what you're doing Thursday?
[58:42] Speaker 3: I said, is for real?
[58:47] Speaker 1: I said about mine? You know how you were talking
[58:49] Speaker 1: to you.
[58:50] Speaker 4: It's I went to Dealerts.
[58:54] Speaker 1: I spent two hundred dollars on the dress. I went
[58:56] Speaker 1: to Michael's. I made my bouquet. My mother just had
[59:00] Speaker 1: to be in town. His mother was there. My mother
[59:03] Speaker 1: was there in the basket.
[59:05] Speaker 4: As I said, it was sacred, it was holy.
[59:07] Speaker 1: I cried when that music came on Mali Music. It's
[59:11] Speaker 1: a song called Still by Mali Music.
[59:13] Speaker 4: Still I go.
[59:15] Speaker 1: And I stood at that door and the lady was like, okay,
[59:18] Speaker 1: he's ready for you. Walked down, you can walk down.
[59:20] Speaker 1: I just lost it. It was like, this is where
[59:23] Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be. I finally felt like I this
[59:26] Speaker 1: is where I belong like and it was just the
[59:30] Speaker 1: most beautiful moment. And I didn't have to perform for anybody.
[59:34] Speaker 1: It wasn't a room full of people there. I wasn't
[59:36] Speaker 1: worried about my makeup being messed up. I weren't worried
[59:38] Speaker 1: about any of that. I was just walking to my.
[59:40] Speaker 3: Man, like I'm coming to you. It was beautiful. It
[59:44] Speaker 3: was beautiful.
[59:45] Speaker 4: Yeah, that is amazing.
[59:47] Speaker 2: I don't want to get too far from this moment
[59:50] Speaker 2: that DeAngelo shared a place that a lot of men
[59:54] Speaker 2: don't share, and especially I've never heard it with that
[59:58] Speaker 2: much weight when it been the offense being a male's
[1:00:02] Speaker 2: father like that is very very heavy. And I just
[1:00:07] Speaker 2: want to salute you King for actually sharing that, because yeah,
[1:00:12] Speaker 2: very brave and courageous, and I believe that you gave
[1:00:15] Speaker 2: reference to somebody else watching It's men. God always showed
[1:00:20] Speaker 2: me something in the spirit round. When certain things happen
[1:00:23] Speaker 2: on the podcast, it's a man that's going to end
[1:00:26] Speaker 2: up dming you telling you that man, thank you for
[1:00:29] Speaker 2: sharing that.
[1:00:30] Speaker 4: You know, I was sexually assaulted by my uncle. This
[1:00:32] Speaker 4: right here happened to me.
[1:00:34] Speaker 2: And they're going to start sharing stuff with you, and
[1:00:36] Speaker 2: now you're going to understand why God allowed you to
[1:00:39] Speaker 2: share that, because you're going to be walking other brothers
[1:00:41] Speaker 2: through that. A lot of men have attached their masculinity
[1:00:45] Speaker 2: to their sexuality where they've been like, no, I ain't
[1:00:49] Speaker 2: no feeling the blank and then they say, all right,
[1:00:51] Speaker 2: I'm finna just go on to smashing spree. And now
[1:00:53] Speaker 2: you're just breaking hearts all across the globe because you're
[1:00:57] Speaker 2: trying to prove a point to yourself.
[1:00:59] Speaker 4: And the devil said, got him, got him.
[1:01:01] Speaker 2: However, however way he wants to get you, got him,
[1:01:04] Speaker 2: and now he got you damaging all these women because
[1:01:07] Speaker 2: you don't want to be looked at internally as that.
[1:01:10] Speaker 5: You don't even want to get close to that mindset.
[1:01:13] Speaker 2: That at all, you know, So you say, because what
[1:01:15] Speaker 2: is it that made him feel like it was okay
[1:01:17] Speaker 2: to do me? So I must be giving off something?
[1:01:19] Speaker 2: And it's like, no, it's a demonic attack. You ain't
[1:01:22] Speaker 2: gave off nothing. You're an innocent young man.
[1:01:24] Speaker 4: It was a demonic attack assigned to derail your whole
[1:01:27] Speaker 4: life and come against that spirit, that that that is
[1:01:32] Speaker 4: coming against your mind and spirit to try to have
[1:01:34] Speaker 4: you take a turn for the worst. And the same
[1:01:36] Speaker 4: thing with you, Tasha is the same fact is that
[1:01:39] Speaker 4: we don't talk about this enough in the Kingdom of
[1:01:43] Speaker 4: violations and sexual assault. Even using the language on my
[1:01:47] Speaker 4: podcast video makes them say, oh, this is a trigger word.
[1:01:51] Speaker 4: You get now now advertisers can advertise on the episode
[1:01:54] Speaker 4: because you said these words. So we talk around it.
[1:01:58] Speaker 4: We try to figure out a way to say it.
[1:01:59] Speaker 2: Man, I don't care as sexual assault and so at
[1:02:02] Speaker 2: the end of the day, we got to come against
[1:02:03] Speaker 2: that spirit. We got to come against the spirit of
[1:02:05] Speaker 2: being silent because we can't talk about it because we
[1:02:08] Speaker 2: don't out of fear of not being believed. We need
[1:02:12] Speaker 2: our parents, those people that are in leaderships to be
[1:02:15] Speaker 2: able to listen when a child comes forth and shares
[1:02:18] Speaker 2: that and not be like, Ah, you just because your
[1:02:21] Speaker 2: mama didn't let you go outside yesterday. Yeah, you're throwing
[1:02:24] Speaker 2: a temper chantrum because of whatever reason. No, take it
[1:02:28] Speaker 2: to heart, do the research and handle that thing with
[1:02:31] Speaker 2: the gravity that is due. So thank you so much,
[1:02:34] Speaker 2: salute to both of y'all for sharing that. And it
[1:02:37] Speaker 2: just gives another reason, not that this is some trauma
[1:02:40] Speaker 2: bond situation, but it's a place of healing, it's a
[1:02:43] Speaker 2: place of restoration, it's a place of safety that y'all
[1:02:45] Speaker 2: found with each other. That now, even having these backgrounds
[1:02:50] Speaker 2: and you talk about these history lessons that you jokingly share,
[1:02:53] Speaker 2: God is going to use the history lessons that y'all
[1:02:56] Speaker 2: shared in y'all's own life to bring deliverance to other
[1:02:59] Speaker 2: people that have gone through some of the same similar experiences.
[1:03:02] Speaker 2: So I just heard that in the spirit as we
[1:03:04] Speaker 2: were talking that history that y'all gone through, y'all have
[1:03:07] Speaker 2: an anointing over that nowhere y'all able to discern it
[1:03:10] Speaker 2: when y'all see it show up as in y'all's sphere
[1:03:13] Speaker 2: of influence, where y'all can have conversations that other people
[1:03:16] Speaker 2: can have because you know what it looks like, sound like,
[1:03:18] Speaker 2: smell like, and you go, hey, come here, let me
[1:03:21] Speaker 2: talk to you real quick.
[1:03:22] Speaker 1: And being with someone, it's one thing to have a
[1:03:25] Speaker 1: person who seeks to want to understand you, who does
[1:03:31] Speaker 1: their research. I know people who are married to people
[1:03:34] Speaker 1: who have been molested or raped or abused in any
[1:03:38] Speaker 1: type of way. They read books, they go to classes,
[1:03:41] Speaker 1: they do We understand one another to our core. Yes,
[1:03:45] Speaker 1: he understands my pain. He understands the things that I
[1:03:48] Speaker 1: deal with, the things that I go with that I'm
[1:03:50] Speaker 1: still dealing with. Yeah, and I'm healed, Yeah, but I'm
[1:03:53] Speaker 1: still it's still certain things, certain conversations that have to happen.
[1:03:58] Speaker 1: But then family and different things that you know, it
[1:04:00] Speaker 1: takes time to get over, it takes time to work through.
[1:04:04] Speaker 1: And so I understand him and he understands me, And
[1:04:07] Speaker 1: it's definitely a Kingdom assignment, why God brought us together
[1:04:11] Speaker 1: for beautiful.
[1:04:13] Speaker 2: Family and friends. So y'all feel like all your family
[1:04:15] Speaker 2: and friends were in agreement with it? Or did you
[1:04:18] Speaker 2: have people like y'all moving too fast? I heard what
[1:04:20] Speaker 2: you said, DiAngelo. You say everybody's not gonna agree with it?
[1:04:23] Speaker 2: Are you talking about the public at large? D you
[1:04:25] Speaker 2: feel like you're in a circle. You still had to
[1:04:27] Speaker 2: deal with people saying y'all moving too fast.
[1:04:30] Speaker 5: A lot of people both I would say, they'll tell
[1:04:34] Speaker 5: you to take your.
[1:04:35] Speaker 3: Time, you know, Uh does it take your time?
[1:04:42] Speaker 4: You know?
[1:04:43] Speaker 5: Because they cared for me, you know what I'm saying,
[1:04:45] Speaker 5: And they cared about my life, and they a lot
[1:04:48] Speaker 5: of people saw what I went through, uh, and my
[1:04:51] Speaker 5: past experience, and so they was like, man, you just
[1:04:55] Speaker 5: need to take your time, you know, Uh, don't don't
[1:04:58] Speaker 5: rush nothing. And and so I was, you know, I'm
[1:05:02] Speaker 5: battling that mindset, like take my time, don't rush. But
[1:05:06] Speaker 5: then I hear the Lord say, marry her.
[1:05:10] Speaker 4: So listen to I'm not gonna listen to y'all.
[1:05:14] Speaker 5: I love y'all, but I'm not gonna listen to you
[1:05:16] Speaker 5: because I know when the Lord speaks as a reason why.
[1:05:22] Speaker 2: And what they don't know is the state of mind
[1:05:25] Speaker 2: that you were in, you was about to be in
[1:05:27] Speaker 2: these streets. And so God, God can save us from ourselves.
[1:05:31] Speaker 2: God said, hold on, son, I know what's in your heart.
[1:05:34] Speaker 2: I know you're gonna take this brokenness and go out here.
[1:05:36] Speaker 2: I'm gonna go on to smashing spree. Come come to me,
[1:05:38] Speaker 2: someone back, Come to me. I need you and the covenant.
[1:05:42] Speaker 2: I don't need you out here in these streets. And
[1:05:44] Speaker 2: so they don't know that part. That's why God is
[1:05:46] Speaker 2: so gracious to know us. He's he's omniscient, he's all knowing.
[1:05:49] Speaker 2: So he's he's like, I if I leave you single
[1:05:52] Speaker 2: too long, it's gonna take you too long to even
[1:05:54] Speaker 2: get married again. Because the minute that you start getting
[1:05:57] Speaker 2: used and accustomed to a certain lifestyle, it's you just
[1:06:00] Speaker 2: further away from covenant.
[1:06:02] Speaker 4: And so God knows that. That's why I said, can't
[1:06:04] Speaker 4: listen to what people say? What about your end? Tashi?
[1:06:06] Speaker 2: Were you hearing people saying you're rushing at you too soon?
[1:06:08] Speaker 2: This man just put a ring on your finger and
[1:06:10] Speaker 2: the next week want to marry you.
[1:06:11] Speaker 4: What are y'all doing?
[1:06:13] Speaker 3: Same with him?
[1:06:14] Speaker 1: You know, my family knows what I went through before,
[1:06:17] Speaker 1: and they saw the process of me coming out of
[1:06:20] Speaker 1: that and how it took a toll on me mentally
[1:06:23] Speaker 1: and physically and emotionally spiritually, like every part of me
[1:06:27] Speaker 1: was affected by that. And so they were just like,
[1:06:31] Speaker 1: we know, we can't tell you what to do, but
[1:06:33] Speaker 1: are you there. It was just are you sure?
[1:06:35] Speaker 4: You know?
[1:06:36] Speaker 1: Sure, we love him, we love him, but if you
[1:06:38] Speaker 1: say you know, you ain't doing it, We're gonna ride
[1:06:41] Speaker 1: with you. It was that type of thing, just checking
[1:06:43] Speaker 1: on me, making sure. And then once I confirmed with them,
[1:06:47] Speaker 1: confirmed and like, no, this is it. I'm I'm sure
[1:06:50] Speaker 1: about this. They love him, they love My children loved him.
[1:06:54] Speaker 1: That was a big thing for your kids because in
[1:06:57] Speaker 1: the second marriage, I didn't give my children an opportunity
[1:07:00] Speaker 1: to even have a say so to even they never
[1:07:04] Speaker 1: had a chance to really bond with him. They never
[1:07:07] Speaker 1: were around and never and so that hurt them and
[1:07:10] Speaker 1: I had to go back and apologize to my kids
[1:07:12] Speaker 1: for that. And so the relationship that he has with
[1:07:16] Speaker 1: them and the relationship that I have with his children.
[1:07:19] Speaker 1: God gave us this and it's a beautiful thing, us
[1:07:22] Speaker 1: merging our families together, and so we're just taking one
[1:07:26] Speaker 1: day at a time and having fun.
[1:07:27] Speaker 4: And so when he said, when you heard them over
[1:07:30] Speaker 4: a whispering, we're gonna get married next thursday, that that
[1:07:34] Speaker 4: scare you.
[1:07:34] Speaker 1: I know, I got nervous.
[1:07:36] Speaker 4: I did.
[1:07:37] Speaker 3: I got nervous.
[1:07:37] Speaker 4: I was like, what made you say, No, I don't
[1:07:41] Speaker 4: want to get married next week.
[1:07:42] Speaker 1: I want to get married because I wanted to.
[1:07:44] Speaker 3: I wanted to be with him?
[1:07:45] Speaker 4: Really? Yeah, absolutely, so you had peace. You had peace
[1:07:51] Speaker 4: in marrying him quickly. It just was a whiplash moment
[1:07:56] Speaker 4: of getting married in.
[1:07:57] Speaker 3: The next because this is a big decision. Yeah, I
[1:07:59] Speaker 3: don't look at it.
[1:08:00] Speaker 1: We're just walking to this to going to the store.
[1:08:02] Speaker 1: Were just going grocery shop and we'll be back. No,
[1:08:04] Speaker 1: this is a lifetime commitment. Nobody gets married and plans
[1:08:08] Speaker 1: to get divorced.
[1:08:08] Speaker 4: So watch. So what made you lean into it like that?
[1:08:11] Speaker 5: Though?
[1:08:11] Speaker 1: I just knew it was God, I knew it was
[1:08:14] Speaker 1: too many different confirmations. I'll give you one. One one
[1:08:17] Speaker 1: of the confirmations was my mother said, I got baptized
[1:08:21] Speaker 1: when I was a kid. I don't remember being baptized
[1:08:24] Speaker 1: as an I've never been baptized as an adult.
[1:08:26] Speaker 3: I was being baptized as a child, and.
[1:08:28] Speaker 1: I wanted I wanted to I've been telling talking to
[1:08:30] Speaker 1: the Lord like I want to be baptist. I got
[1:08:32] Speaker 1: to get baptized again. Every time they do it at
[1:08:34] Speaker 1: the church, I'm out of town, I'm on the row.
[1:08:36] Speaker 1: I'm like I've been saying this. I've been saying this.
[1:08:39] Speaker 1: So he was with me one time and we were
[1:08:40] Speaker 1: I had to sing somewhere. We were together, and when
[1:08:44] Speaker 1: I got done singing, he was like, you know, while
[1:08:46] Speaker 1: you were singing, I saw me baptizing you.
[1:08:49] Speaker 4: Oh wow.
[1:08:49] Speaker 1: It was it was specific things that the Lord. I mean,
[1:08:53] Speaker 1: I would I would be thinking something and he would
[1:08:56] Speaker 1: call me. He would say he was like yeah. So
[1:08:59] Speaker 1: it's like he always knew. He always knew where I was.
[1:09:02] Speaker 1: He always met me where I was. He could always
[1:09:04] Speaker 1: feel me, like if I'm not feeling well, if I'm
[1:09:06] Speaker 1: dealing with something, what's wrong with you?
[1:09:08] Speaker 3: Call me like, you know, let's pray.
[1:09:10] Speaker 1: So we started this thing where he the Lord told
[1:09:13] Speaker 1: him to stop and pray at twelve noon Monday through Friday.
[1:09:16] Speaker 1: And he started doing it and he would get off
[1:09:18] Speaker 1: the phone and I'm like, why are you getting off
[1:09:20] Speaker 1: the phone.
[1:09:20] Speaker 3: I got to pray at twelve. So I started doing
[1:09:22] Speaker 3: it with him.
[1:09:23] Speaker 1: So the first couple of months while we were dating,
[1:09:26] Speaker 1: twelve no no matter where we were, we stopped and prayed.
[1:09:31] Speaker 1: No matter where we were, no matter what we were doing,
[1:09:33] Speaker 1: we stopped and prayed. And so now we kept doing it.
[1:09:35] Speaker 1: And then one day he said the Lord told him
[1:09:37] Speaker 1: to open it up. So Monday through Friday twelve New
[1:09:40] Speaker 1: Eastern Standard time, we're on zoom praying and there's people
[1:09:42] Speaker 1: on there. Sometimes we share a word, sometimes we prophesize.
[1:09:45] Speaker 1: Some people are getting healed, coming back with testimonies of
[1:09:49] Speaker 1: getting jobs, bodies being kids, being saved. So God didn't
[1:09:53] Speaker 1: just bring us together for us to have a good time,
[1:09:55] Speaker 1: and we do have a great time, but this is
[1:09:57] Speaker 1: a kingdom assignment, like this is a real partnership. And
[1:10:01] Speaker 1: I told him that, yes, I've been married twice, but
[1:10:04] Speaker 1: when I married you, I felt like I've never been
[1:10:07] Speaker 1: married before. I feel like I've never done this before,
[1:10:10] Speaker 1: Like I feel really feel like this is the first
[1:10:12] Speaker 1: time I've ever been married. And it's amazing, it's beautiful.
[1:10:17] Speaker 1: I can't say it enough.
[1:10:18] Speaker 3: I just thank God for it.
[1:10:19] Speaker 1: I thank God for you.
[1:10:20] Speaker 4: I love you too.
[1:10:22] Speaker 5: Okay, and we do this thing and we tell people
[1:10:25] Speaker 5: because every couple has arguments, every couple has you know,
[1:10:29] Speaker 5: when you're getting learned each other, you're gonna you're gonna
[1:10:32] Speaker 5: run into that. Uh. And I might say it in
[1:10:34] Speaker 5: my interpretation, she's gonna correct me. But our motto is
[1:10:39] Speaker 5: let love lead. Just let love regardless. Like because when
[1:10:45] Speaker 5: we first started getting in arguments, one time we got
[1:10:48] Speaker 5: an argument and we didn't talk.
[1:10:50] Speaker 4: We was driving in the thought.
[1:10:52] Speaker 3: On the road trip five hours five my headphones on and.
[1:10:56] Speaker 5: Turned off Hulu, and I'm just I'm just a stubborn.
[1:11:00] Speaker 5: And then I'm enjoying map quests.
[1:11:04] Speaker 1: And the whole time I'm looking at my show and
[1:11:06] Speaker 1: the show was good too. I'm like, this man ain't
[1:11:09] Speaker 1: gonna say nothing to me nothing. Who's gonna be the
[1:11:11] Speaker 1: first one to say I'm sorry? Who's gonna be the
[1:11:12] Speaker 1: first one to break it? I said, now, now this
[1:11:14] Speaker 1: is dangerous because we're both too stubborn for this. We
[1:11:16] Speaker 1: got I looked at him, I said, so what are
[1:11:18] Speaker 1: we doing?
[1:11:19] Speaker 2: What is this?
[1:11:20] Speaker 4: So you broke it?
[1:11:23] Speaker 5: And from there and she she said those words and
[1:11:27] Speaker 5: it and it stuck with me and so we we
[1:11:31] Speaker 5: lead with that every in every situation, every up and down.
[1:11:35] Speaker 5: So when you are engaging in an argument or anything,
[1:11:39] Speaker 5: it should be the love that's leading regardless, so that
[1:11:44] Speaker 5: you ain't gonna say nothing crazy. You know, I don't
[1:11:47] Speaker 5: cuss like that. I don't cuss and so like that
[1:11:53] Speaker 5: because people will pull that out.
[1:11:55] Speaker 4: But you know, so I don't.
[1:11:58] Speaker 5: I will never call her out her name, you know
[1:12:00] Speaker 5: what I'm saying that that's something I just want to do.
[1:12:03] Speaker 5: Like the insult thing we're not gonna do. And then
[1:12:05] Speaker 5: if you're letting love lee, you're not going to do
[1:12:07] Speaker 5: that anymore. Absolutely, And so even so we're not trying
[1:12:11] Speaker 5: to win.
[1:12:12] Speaker 4: And that's the thing.
[1:12:13] Speaker 5: I'm not trying to win an argument. Yeah, I don't
[1:12:16] Speaker 5: want to win an argument. I want to I want
[1:12:18] Speaker 5: to stay in love good good, So you know, and
[1:12:22] Speaker 5: that's you know what we're learning in our process.
[1:12:24] Speaker 4: We're not perfect, you know, none of it.
[1:12:27] Speaker 5: We're trying to learn each other and and so, but
[1:12:31] Speaker 5: we're going to be married for the next forty fifty years.
[1:12:34] Speaker 4: There it is, there it is. How old are you, Tasha?
[1:12:37] Speaker 3: Forty two?
[1:12:38] Speaker 4: How are you forty one? No, he said, forty fifty years.
[1:12:42] Speaker 1: Sixty seventy sixty seven, still be throwing that thing undred.
[1:12:49] Speaker 4: Baby in.
[1:12:52] Speaker 1: You because I can, I will.
[1:12:59] Speaker 4: I can out.
[1:13:00] Speaker 2: That's a new Bible verse. Listen, how can we support you?
[1:13:04] Speaker 2: You got an album coming out? Well, how can we
[1:13:06] Speaker 2: support you?
[1:13:07] Speaker 1: I got some new music that's coming out, and I
[1:13:11] Speaker 1: actually have something to give you too, because I want
[1:13:12] Speaker 1: you to hear the new song. Oh, I got some
[1:13:14] Speaker 1: new music coming out. The first single is called come
[1:13:18] Speaker 1: to Pass. Yeah, it's called come to Pass.
[1:13:21] Speaker 4: It's it's about her meeting her boas.
[1:13:25] Speaker 1: I'm just excited. I'm excited about what God is doing
[1:13:28] Speaker 1: in my music ministry. I haven't released a full body
[1:13:31] Speaker 1: of work since twenty seventeen.
[1:13:32] Speaker 4: Twenty seventeen.
[1:13:34] Speaker 3: Long, been that long.
[1:13:35] Speaker 1: I wasn't ready to release music, Like, I didn't want to.
[1:13:37] Speaker 1: I didn't want to let my supporters rush me, and
[1:13:40] Speaker 1: I didn't want to do it for the sake of
[1:13:41] Speaker 1: get music out. You got to release content. You got
[1:13:43] Speaker 1: to stay relevant. You got the Lord allowed me to
[1:13:45] Speaker 1: stay really through features, through just relationships and his favor Like,
[1:13:51] Speaker 1: how is it that I'm on the road almost every
[1:13:53] Speaker 1: weekend with no new music out.
[1:13:56] Speaker 3: That's God that has to be gone.
[1:13:57] Speaker 2: Do you know Anita Hawkins. Yeah, remember I met you
[1:14:01] Speaker 2: at her birthday party? You did you go to a
[1:14:04] Speaker 2: birthday thing that she had in Dallas? It was something?
[1:14:06] Speaker 2: Was it her thing?
[1:14:07] Speaker 4: It was something?
[1:14:09] Speaker 3: I remember her being there.
[1:14:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, she was there, but who's was it? I thought
[1:14:14] Speaker 2: that was her thing? But it was a birthday thing
[1:14:16] Speaker 2: that she had a couple of years ago. And I
[1:14:18] Speaker 2: remember meeting you there. Yeah, So I don't know.
[1:14:21] Speaker 3: Was that nice?
[1:14:22] Speaker 1: Was I don't know. I just have a serious look sometimes.
[1:14:27] Speaker 4: When I talked to you, you was cool.
[1:14:29] Speaker 2: You've always been cool with me and matter of fact,
[1:14:30] Speaker 2: we've got on the phone and talked extensively about your
[1:14:33] Speaker 2: whole background and your mom and the loss of your
[1:14:36] Speaker 2: dad all that stuff.
[1:14:37] Speaker 4: So I always was like, she's solid to me. And
[1:14:39] Speaker 4: so yeah, always been solid.
[1:14:42] Speaker 2: So I ain't, like I said, I ain't in the
[1:14:44] Speaker 2: gospel industry that much to know what people may say
[1:14:46] Speaker 2: about you.
[1:14:47] Speaker 4: So if you've been mean the people, I.
[1:14:54] Speaker 2: No more.
[1:14:56] Speaker 1: In these days, you gotta earned the with me.
[1:15:00] Speaker 3: It's been I haven't been through too much.
[1:15:04] Speaker 4: You got to earn the real And so your album
[1:15:08] Speaker 4: is coming out today. You have a website to Shay.
[1:15:11] Speaker 1: Ministries dot com, follow me on Instagram. Part we have
[1:15:16] Speaker 1: a lot going on. I have a women's ministry that
[1:15:18] Speaker 1: my husband urged me to relaunch called Daughters of Eve
[1:15:21] Speaker 1: and so we do every third Monday on Zoom. All
[1:15:24] Speaker 1: of that is on my social media stuff and then
[1:15:26] Speaker 1: him and I you could talk about Yeah, we are.
[1:15:30] Speaker 4: Going into ministry. Good.
[1:15:32] Speaker 5: I pastored for the past seven years in Virginia and
[1:15:38] Speaker 5: now we are moving forward. Not a timeline yet, but
[1:15:43] Speaker 5: we're moving forward seeking the face of the Lord, and
[1:15:45] Speaker 5: we'll be doing full live ministry in Uh the Raleigh
[1:15:50] Speaker 5: Durham area, North Carolina is a burden that I carry
[1:15:54] Speaker 5: and I can't let it go there it is and
[1:15:56] Speaker 5: so we're doing that and uh, that's you know, that's
[1:16:01] Speaker 5: all I'm doing. You can follow me on t lofton one,
[1:16:04] Speaker 5: two three at an ig and then DiAngelo Lofton on
[1:16:08] Speaker 5: Facebook and all others.
[1:16:10] Speaker 4: And we're good. If I'm available, I want to come
[1:16:13] Speaker 4: to your first service that I want to pull up
[1:16:16] Speaker 4: that great. Yeah, that'd be great.
[1:16:18] Speaker 2: I love it when people are being assigned by God
[1:16:22] Speaker 2: in the city to go and speak to the demonic
[1:16:25] Speaker 2: influences there so they can bring souls to the Kingdom.
[1:16:28] Speaker 4: Ten toes down in that song and.
[1:16:30] Speaker 1: Thank you for what you're doing. Thank you for what
[1:16:32] Speaker 1: you're doing for people who have lost hope. I mean
[1:16:34] Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who did give up
[1:16:36] Speaker 1: on love.
[1:16:37] Speaker 4: Absolutely, it felt like this is not for me.
[1:16:38] Speaker 3: I haven't found my person or one of them.
[1:16:43] Speaker 1: Breaks. But then no, seriously, thank you for extending this
[1:16:47] Speaker 1: platform for us to be able to share our stories
[1:16:49] Speaker 1: and for just extent creating this for people to know
[1:16:53] Speaker 1: that there is somebody out there for you and to
[1:16:55] Speaker 1: get the tools. That's the thing part, to get the
[1:16:58] Speaker 1: tools to be think you want to be in a mirror,
[1:17:01] Speaker 1: and you think you want to be in a marriage,
[1:17:03] Speaker 1: you need the most selfless version of yourself has to
[1:17:07] Speaker 1: emerge at that point.
[1:17:08] Speaker 4: If you want to be in a marriage, that's the
[1:17:10] Speaker 4: best version of yourself. Yeah, yeah, you ain't lying. That's
[1:17:13] Speaker 4: as powerful.
[1:17:14] Speaker 5: Well, listen, DiAngelo, you have social media, yes, Instagram, t
[1:17:20] Speaker 5: Lofton one two three, t Lofton one two three, and
[1:17:23] Speaker 5: Facebook is D'Angelo lofton.
[1:17:25] Speaker 4: There it is?
[1:17:26] Speaker 2: And so again, fellas, I want you to reach out
[1:17:29] Speaker 2: to him if his testimony resonated with you, so that
[1:17:32] Speaker 2: you can get free from this, so that when you
[1:17:34] Speaker 2: decide to take vows again. You take vows as a
[1:17:37] Speaker 2: whole man in the name of Jesus. Y'all give it
[1:17:40] Speaker 2: up for the lofty John.
[1:17:41] Speaker 5: Let's shure less you stay tuned to the end for
[1:17:44] Speaker 5: a letter to my future wife.
[1:17:46] Speaker 4: Right and least love letters.
[1:17:53] Speaker 2: Ladarian thrust it suddenly into child protective services. In twenty fifteen,
[1:17:59] Speaker 2: my nephew, black a boy.
[1:18:02] Speaker 4: The likelihood have been adopted outside of kinship? Slim to none?
[1:18:07] Speaker 2: Rmione, sixteen years old, black a boy with five years
[1:18:12] Speaker 2: in the Falter care system before I even knew his name.
[1:18:15] Speaker 4: The likelihood have ever been adopted? Yep, you guessed it.
[1:18:20] Speaker 4: Slim to none.
[1:18:22] Speaker 2: While Laderian and OURMIONI were trying to survive and barely
[1:18:25] Speaker 2: thrive in an overpopulated and underfunded Falseter care system, I
[1:18:29] Speaker 2: was living my own life, doing well professionally, having been
[1:18:32] Speaker 2: a single father with a daughter who at that point
[1:18:34] Speaker 2: was doing well in college. It was my time to
[1:18:37] Speaker 2: live my life right wrong. I felt unsettled, tireless, agitated.
[1:18:44] Speaker 2: There are just too many of our black children stuck
[1:18:48] Speaker 2: in ambiguity and in the limbo of the Falter care system.
[1:18:52] Speaker 2: In twenty seventeen, I legally adopted my nephew Ladarian.
[1:18:56] Speaker 4: Fast forward to twenty nineteen.
[1:18:57] Speaker 2: I had no ties to this other young king, but
[1:19:00] Speaker 2: God instructed me to adopt them also on an babe.
[1:19:03] Speaker 2: Starting over with parenting should have been enough. Right, Working
[1:19:06] Speaker 2: with various foster care and adoption agencies to help bring
[1:19:09] Speaker 2: awareness to the countless young Black Kings and the Falster
[1:19:12] Speaker 2: care system should have decreased my agitation.
[1:19:15] Speaker 4: Right.
[1:19:16] Speaker 2: Joining the board of directors of Advantage of Adoption and
[1:19:19] Speaker 2: organization that helps find permanent adoptive homes for children in
[1:19:22] Speaker 2: FALSI care should have led to some type of resolve.
[1:19:25] Speaker 4: Right, No, not at all. None of it felt like
[1:19:30] Speaker 4: I had done enough.
[1:19:32] Speaker 2: I now realized that every one of those experiences was
[1:19:36] Speaker 2: land the fundamental foundation for my life's mission.
[1:19:40] Speaker 4: Kingdom Royal.
[1:19:41] Speaker 2: Kingdom Royal would be a luxury, state of the art
[1:19:44] Speaker 2: home for foster boys. Our first location will be in
[1:19:47] Speaker 2: the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex. We will utilize the whole
[1:19:50] Speaker 2: person approach that instills identity, empowers them to advocate for themselves,
[1:19:55] Speaker 2: and enlightens them regarding new perspectives and limitless options that
[1:19:59] Speaker 2: they thought were impossible. Though, the young Kings will attend
[1:20:04] Speaker 2: the local public schools that are in proximity the King
[1:20:07] Speaker 2: of Royale. Our at home curriculum will broaden their worldview
[1:20:11] Speaker 2: through participating in the arts, attending various cultural events, learning
[1:20:15] Speaker 2: about and engaging in multifaceted discussions about current events and
[1:20:19] Speaker 2: even relevant historical contexts, Introducing them to gardening and landscaping,
[1:20:24] Speaker 2: and even caring for our animals on our form and
[1:20:27] Speaker 2: on site stables. We just launched our startup capital campaign
[1:20:32] Speaker 2: with the goal of raising two point eight million dollars.
[1:20:34] Speaker 4: Now why two point eight million dollars? Well.
[1:20:36] Speaker 2: In twenty seventeen, I created a web series in which
[1:20:39] Speaker 2: I performed random acts of kindness for targeting the homeless community.
[1:20:43] Speaker 4: One of the most notable successes was.
[1:20:45] Speaker 2: That one of the videos went viral, garnering twenty eight
[1:20:48] Speaker 2: million views. However, one of my biggest regrets is that
[1:20:52] Speaker 2: I didn't raise a single dollar to help in implementing
[1:20:55] Speaker 2: a more sustainable plan for the homeless community. So, throughout
[1:20:59] Speaker 2: the years, with much remorse, I reflect that I'm not
[1:21:03] Speaker 2: maximizing that moment. I knew if at that time just
[1:21:07] Speaker 2: ten percent of the viewers donated one dollar, we would
[1:21:10] Speaker 2: have raised at least two point eight million dollars that
[1:21:13] Speaker 2: could have really established long term support for the homeless community,
[1:21:17] Speaker 2: or at least started a long term initiative to do so.
[1:21:21] Speaker 4: This is my do over, this is our new beginning.
[1:21:25] Speaker 2: Together, we can attack this at the route by specifically
[1:21:29] Speaker 2: helping our homeless Black boys who are already disproportionately represented
[1:21:34] Speaker 2: in the American fossil care system.
[1:21:36] Speaker 4: I'm a tarisaar Wickfield.
[1:21:38] Speaker 2: I've been nominated for three regional Emmys documenting my work
[1:21:41] Speaker 2: with the homeless as well as my personal adoption journey.
[1:21:45] Speaker 2: Despite those accolades, the greatest award for me is truly
[1:21:49] Speaker 2: providing the infrastructure for a transformed life. Visit Kingdomroyal dot
[1:21:55] Speaker 2: com for more details Crown of.
[1:21:57] Speaker 4: King and make a donation today.
[1:22:07] Speaker 2: Here's my favorite part of the podcast where I speak
[1:22:08] Speaker 2: to my future wife, their future wifeing our scars will
[1:22:13] Speaker 2: not be wasted, the tears we've cried in secret, the
[1:22:17] Speaker 2: nights we wrestle with loneliness, the seasons we thought would
[1:22:20] Speaker 2: break us. God was weaving them into a greater purpose.
[1:22:24] Speaker 2: When we come together, our marriage will not just be
[1:22:27] Speaker 2: for our joy, it will be for His glory. I
[1:22:31] Speaker 2: believe the Lord will take the ashes of our past
[1:22:33] Speaker 2: trauma and exchange them for beauty that touches nations. Where
[1:22:38] Speaker 2: pain once silenced us, He will give us platforms where
[1:22:42] Speaker 2: heartbreak tried to destroy us. He will give us healing
[1:22:45] Speaker 2: words for the broken hearted. Together, our transparency will be medicine.
[1:22:50] Speaker 2: Our story will remind people that God still restores, still redeems,
[1:22:54] Speaker 2: and still resurrects dead things.
[1:22:58] Speaker 4: We won't hide from what we been through.
[1:23:01] Speaker 2: Well stand as living testimonies that trauma does not define us,
[1:23:05] Speaker 2: grace does. Our union will be a lighthouse for those
[1:23:09] Speaker 2: lost in storms, of safe harbor for those searching for hope,
[1:23:12] Speaker 2: and a declaration that love can grow even out of
[1:23:16] Speaker 2: fractured souls. So, my Love, let us embrace the assignment
[1:23:21] Speaker 2: not just to love each other well, but to love
[1:23:25] Speaker 2: the world better. Because of what we've endured, the nations
[1:23:28] Speaker 2: will find healing and the overflow of our obedience. Dear
[1:23:33] Speaker 2: Future Hoopy, I hope you enjoyed this episode of the
[1:23:37] Speaker 2: Dear Future Wife podcast. Remember belt live intentionally and transparently,
[1:23:43] Speaker 2: and don't stop loving.
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