# john powell - Othering and Belonging

An episode of [Mind & Life](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1504112670), 10 Jun 2020, 1 h 00 min.

Audio: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/hy3dok/johnpowell_060620_AIR4.mp3

In this episode, Wendy speaks with law professor and civil rights expert john a. powell about his work at the intersection of social justice and spirituality. This conversation was recorded during the 2019 Summer Research Institute. They discuss a wide range of topics, including: • the problem of othering; • the roots of whiteness; • recent changes in the world and how we react to them; • how our minds create mental schemas; • implicit bias and how to change it; • the importance of narrative and bridging stories, and the role of leadership; • the self as a construction; • spirituality and interconnection; • the roles of science and religion in society; • identity politics, and more. Full show notes and resources

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