# Nato’s moment of truth

An episode of [The Rachman Review](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1504048545), 12 Jun 2025, 29 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/acast/s/therachmanreview/e/68494e7a44a17fa6a1589f23/media.mp3

Gideon talks to Oana Lungescu, Nato's former and longest-serving spokesperson, about what to expect from this month’s summit and what's at stake? Can Europe convince the Trump administration that Russia is a risk they need to take seriously, and will an agreement to increase defence spending be enough to satisfy the US president? Clips: Sky; Channel 4, Aljazeera Free links to read more on this topic: Europe, the US and the question of values Europe confronts Trump’s triple threat on Ukraine, Nato and trade Europe has a weaker hand than it thinks on Ukraine Nato defence ministers to discuss path to 5% military spending Subscribe to The Rachman Review wherever you get your podcasts - please listen, rate and subscribe. Presented by Gideon Rachman. Produced by Fiona Symon. Sound design is by Simon Panayi and the executive producer is Flo Phillips. Follow Gideon on Bluesky or X @gideonrachman.bsky.social, @gideonrachman Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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