# Cozying up with Monty Don & Slow Media | Season 30

An episode of [Homemaker Chic](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1499566932), 10 Nov 2026, 58 min.

Audio: https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/audio3.redcircle.com/episodes/1c6d44e0-8774-4398-9ab3-95a791053a4c/stream.mp3

🌿 WHAT WOULD MONTY DO? Slow media, intentional nostalgia & being bothered 🍂 Monty Don has aired his last Gardener's World, and we're not okay. (Angela's fake eyelash isn't either.) We were already crying 12 seconds into the pre-chat, so we're grabbing the tissues and talking about why Monty means so much to two homemakers who spent years gardening as if he might roll up the driveway. From hacking down a hated juniper to staring at the wall for 45 minutes, slow-form shows like River Cottage and Wartime Farm, and building nostalgia on purpose for your kids this holiday season, this one is heart-cozy. Grab a cup of something warm and join us. ☕✨ 🍂 IN THIS EPISODE A shout-out to a listener who FaceTimed in while canning tomatoes, and Angela's blue vest solution to our color-matching cameras 💙 Monty has aired his last Gardener's World, and why we're taking it so hard 🌱 Monty Don vs. Montague: the difference between the person on camera and the person at home 🎬 Espresso machine fires, live classes & hitting record anyway 🔥 Gardener's World as comfort through a hard winter, and gardening as a remedy 🛏️ "Don't be precious about it" & "What would Monty do?" as a pruning philosophy ✂️ Shaye's juniper: if you hate it, rip it out (and change it today) 🌲 Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall, Gill Meller, Alex Langlands & the British men Stu worries about 😂 Family nights watching River Cottage, Edwardian Farm, Victorian Farm & Wartime Farm 📺 Staring at the wall for 45 minutes, and what happens when you let your mind wander 🧠 Slow-form media: five-second shots, four days of charcoal & a trip to the lime kilns ⏳ Angela's morning ritual of no phone, no agenda & just sitting with her coffee ☕ One-sided friendships, Elisabeth Elliot's voice & how people we've never met shape our lives 💛 Intentional nostalgia: handmade ornaments, travel ornaments & a tree full of pacifiers 🎄 Old cookbooks as family albums, plus goose egg custard & fighting geese with tennis rackets 🪿 Five years goes fast: from newborn to kindergarten 👶 No-screen November (soccer matches and family movie night excepted) ⚽ Pizza by the fire, nesting before the holidays & Angela's "Jurassic Park" deer fence 🍕 A living room taken over by Dungeons & Dragons, and the homemaker's pivot-and-walk-away move 🎲 Walking your house with fresh eyes, and why we put off the two-minute fixes (that trim! that doorknob!) 🔨 Discipline creates space: how small choices make room for little projects 🗓️ The temptation to stop doing hard things once the gallery wall is done 🖼️ "Good stories suck to make": choosing adventure in your home and life 🌍 Monty's stoic, stiff-upper-lip goodbye, and not going through life as a walking apology 🇬🇧 📚 MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Gardener's World with Monty Don Fork to Fork by Monty & Sarah Don River Cottage Edwardian Farm, Victorian Farm & Wartime Farm Elisabeth Elliot The Rest Is History podcast 🍲 Grab Shaye's NEW Soups & Stews ebook — her 20 most popular soup and stew recipes from The Cooking Community, ready to print at home: https://stan.store/shayesitaliankitchen/p/soups--stews--shayes-italian-kitchen 💛 COME HANG OUT WITH US 🎙️ Support Homemaker Chic: https://www.patreon.com/homemakerchicpodcast 🇮🇹 Cook alongside Shaye — join an Italian culinary retreat or The Cooking Community: https://shayesitaliankitchen.com 🇫🇷 Shop French treasures with Angela — or book your next trip to France: https://parisiennefarmgirl.com 📸 Follow along on Instagram: @homemakerchicpodcast 📬 Curl up with our newsletters: Shaye: https://shaye.substack.com/ Angela: https://parisiennefarmgirl.substack.com/ 🎁 OUR FAVORITE THINGS (+ EXCLUSIVE CODES!) ✨ Natural skincare & makeup — Toups & Co: http://www.toupsandco.com/HMC | Code HMC for 25% off your first order! 🌸 Toxic-free perfumes, colognes & candles — Salt & Light by Sami: https://saltandlightbysami.com | Code HOMEMAKERCHIC 🧼 Clean, non-toxic home — Branch Basics: https://branchbasics.com | Code…

## Transcript

[0:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Homemaker's Shukepad guest.
[0:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You guys.
[0:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've already been in tears before we even pushed record or I'm 12 seconds in on the pre-chat on the pre-chat, which is like 30 seconds long or are you in tears?
[0:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So here we are.
[0:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is the podcast where we are rescuing the art of home making.
[0:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I love you guys.
[0:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Can I just say, I love you.
[0:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You guys?
[0:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You guys are the best audience.
[0:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We did your comments last week.
[0:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Had such great comments come in this week.
[0:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You guys have been with us for six years, almost seven years with Angela Reed of Preation Farm Girl.
[0:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm Shale, I'm Shale's Italian Kitchen.
[0:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And you guys are, you're our people, and it's just fun to be here with you.
[0:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because we can cry and we can laugh and we can,
[0:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: sweat.
[0:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm so fun.
[0:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm sweating right now.
[0:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No sweating.
[0:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I do have to say hello to Erin, who is a podcast listener and all her friends came into the store the other day and I got to face time her and meet her.
[1:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Her friends were living it up in Door County and she was
[1:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay.
[1:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Sorry, Erin.
[1:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So, okay.
[1:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And if I don't have your name right, it's because I don't have a note right in front of me.
[1:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that's the name my brain attached to.
[1:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So, you know who you are if I have it wrong.
[1:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Thank you for listening.
[1:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And, Shay, I also, but miss named you the other day.
[1:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think on YouTube.
[1:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think I shouted out your old brand on YouTube.
[1:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And for that, I am sorry.
[1:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You are, Shay is Italian.
[1:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I'm just doing my best, okay?
[1:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You can just hold me crap.
[1:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And my fake eyelash out here on the end is falling off, so I'm just gonna like push it back up here, and because I need an eyelash fill.
[1:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, we gotta talk about it, Angela.
[1:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know if I dare.
[2:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, go ahead.
[2:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The last.
[2:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: If you're watching on the videos, you will notice how our camera sort of matched today.
[2:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because we're forever struggling where my scene is very blue because I have like these Persian rugs and
[2:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: blue apparently going on and she's is obviously very yellow because of her office.
[2:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, I thought, well, I'm going to nip this in the bud.
[2:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And so I got out my wool funky blue clay, bouquet, vest thing, and so now we're matching.
[2:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yep, we're obviously good.
[2:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's visually good today.
[2:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It is, uh, instead of a very ugly
[2:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm sweating.
[2:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm Monti has, I'm going to try his last gardener's world.
[2:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Frick, my eyelashes going to flow out.
[3:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And so you guys are going to watch this on Monday.
[3:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I wrote a sub stack on Friday about it.
[3:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I was like, oh, I don't know what I need to write.
[3:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Apparently, I had something to say.
[3:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I needed to write about Monti.
[3:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, what I was thinking about is how we should feel really grateful because I watched this great interview actually, a podcast listener emailed to us a long time ago.
[3:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And it was this wonderful interview with Monti Monticue.
[3:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he talked about how he had this friend over.
[3:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he's garden and they're chatting and having a great time.
[3:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, brother.
[3:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And Monti's shushed him.
[3:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, yeah, okay, I gotta keep going.
[3:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And his friend goes, oh yeah, yeah, sorry, you're Monti, you have to be Monti Don.
[4:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The, exactly.
[4:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And the interviewer asked him, you know, okay, well, when do you get to be Montiq?
[4:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he goes, well, when I'm with my wife and when I'm with my grandchild and when I'm just at home, when I'm writing a book, like I'm just Montiq.
[4:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm not Monti Don.
[4:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I felt, yeah, you, we can relate like your angel of read of pervasion farm girl.
[4:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, Donna, show Marilyn Monroe used to say, do you want me to be her?
[4:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I know that feeling.
[4:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, are you ready for it when you do want me to fake the switch?
[4:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, not that not that we're not authentic.
[4:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, but like I remember doing a live class one time in my kitchen and my espresso machine caught
[4:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And we're putting out a literal fire.
[4:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You can imagine, I'm frazzled, sweating, and then you hit that record button.
[5:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You got to go.
[5:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're just like, okay, here we are, ladies.
[5:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Anyway, I just feel really grateful, Monty.
[5:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: If you're listening to this, if you know Monty.
[5:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Good socks.
[5:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Thank you for letting us stay up.
[5:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Stop it.
[5:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm not kidding.
[5:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Frick, I'm not kidding.
[5:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I had too many changes in my life for Monty Don to retire.
[5:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not kidding.
[5:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That is like Xanx for me.
[5:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That show is like a Xanx.
[5:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, that's what I was, when I was thinking about what it meant as I was typing.
[5:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This all's like, you know, when I went through a challenging time last winter, winter's not good for me.
[5:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's even worse now like early spring.
[5:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I would lay in bed being sad and I would watch gardeners work.
[5:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I would just watch gardeners world and Monti's voice and like,
[6:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And no shade to the other ones, but when it was like some other host, I'd be like, Oh, dang it.
[6:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Give me one tea.
[6:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[6:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Anyway, I just feel super grateful.
[6:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I, and I just think about the way that Monty doesn't know us.
[6:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He should, but he does.
[6:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He should.
[6:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But our lives, yours and my lives are actual literal land in our literal gardens, are like very shaped by him.
[6:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I think in a small way, our homemaker ship, our homemaker Sheek audience is the same, like we're just talking to each other.
[6:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, but then every once in a while we get these comments, we're like, oh, this is, we really mean something to somebody.
[6:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, and, yes, okay.
[6:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And now I'm sweating, goodness.
[6:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is too, Perry menopause.
[6:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, this is too much.
[7:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not kidding, like, when something, I know things change, right?
[7:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I met this stage in my life where,
[7:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: hold the line, I mean like the gladiator like Russell Crow at the beginning of the battlefield everyone just hold, just let me get my bearings please before one more thing changes and how silly I'm aware for people that are dealing with really really really big things.
[7:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: for me to go.
[7:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, I really need Monti to introduce this sort of gardener's world.
[7:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But at the same time, like I said, it's been for so many years, it's been so soothing for me.
[7:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And in the middle of that winter, you know, SAT, like depression, to just hear the intro music and even
[7:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't really have words.
[7:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I really wanted him to come to our gardens.
[7:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I really wanted him to like to wear like basic, not like rich people gardens, but like people that are out there like duking it out and creating something.
[8:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: For a year, Angela and I gardened as if Monty was going to go.
[8:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: As if Monty was going to go.
[8:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I remember two years ago to me that was my game plan.
[8:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, I'm out here because he might go to fall up down the driveway.
[8:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Man, I remember he'd be like, it's okay.
[8:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's okay that that work like he's not on his way.
[8:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Or I'd be like, you know, cursing him because I was like, Monty has staff.
[8:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, he's flopping.
[8:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He goes out to plant something in the lome.
[8:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I ain't gotten a lome.
[8:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've got crusty, yeah, crusty soil.
[8:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I think like online stuff can get, it can get a really bad rap.
[8:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I'm not saying it's like this, it's a replacement for in-life community and tangible things.
[9:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But when you've actually seen somebody's face, and I think in particular when you hear their voice, sure, there is something that happens.
[9:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And you
[9:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: you connect with them and there is so much good too that can come from these these modern tools.
[9:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's a lot of good.
[9:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, that can come from yes.
[9:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I think that the bad rap with social and with our love for the screen, which we all have in our own way, you know, there is
[9:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, so like it's like an echo chamber where for wherever you're dealing with or you just want to watch somebody be miserable or somebody be tackier What not you don't you don't want to but a lot of that that's what a lot of the consumption is based around and then there are programs and entertainers and persons persona's that are presenting you with something that's
[10:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: really, really edifying and really, really encouraging and very soothing.
[10:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I, for one, when I'm joking about Xanx, but like, I find his voice and just his overall presentation to be very, very, it feels authentic.
[10:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't even care if it is authentic.
[10:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It feels authentic to me.
[10:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's soothing to me.
[10:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It feels encouraging to me when he started, you know, a few years ago saying, like, don't be precious about it.
[10:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I latched onto that.
[10:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So hard.
[10:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like yeah.
[10:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, somebody's pulling in my driveway.
[10:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Somebody must go out out for a curly.
[10:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't need to, this isn't, I don't need to be precious about this.
[10:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, when you're out there like pruning your roses, it's literally like a, what would Jesus do, bracelet?
[11:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What would Monti do?
[11:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He would hack this rose down to the nub.
[11:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Don't be precious about it.
[11:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Move on, like trust, trust the process, trust the garden.
[11:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just found so much encouragement.
[11:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: with him over the years.
[11:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And the show is still going to be fabulous.
[11:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I love the show, but there's something about him in particular that especially knowing that he went to the garden as a remedy for his own depression or as a method for his own depression and just dang, dang it anyways.
[11:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, there were pieces that I really, his writing and his, in his cookbook, he wrote a cookbook with his wife.
[11:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it's just the most like British farmer, little cookbook home, done effort.
[11:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I love it.
[11:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's beautiful.
[11:56] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he wrote, in a way, I think he was really authentic.
[12:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I think you see pieces of that like long meadow is his garden, you can't go, it's they do not let to people come because it's his home and he's like, this is where my grand kit plates, this is, this is where we have supper, sorry, you can't, you can't come here, yeah, but he shared it with us in a way that we could, you know, in a small way anyway.
[12:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Or like one of the things I took, like you took don't be precious.
[12:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I remember him saying, like if it doesn't work, just rip it out.
[12:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Change it.
[12:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Who cares?
[12:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Change it.
[12:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Change it now.
[12:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because it'll just, if you just wait, wait, wait, you're still gonna hate it.
[12:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So when I had that juniper in my courtyard, I planted it and I thought it was gonna be really awesome and I really ended up hating it.
[12:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I stared at it, I didn't even know that.
[12:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, to tear that out.
[12:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Well, I cut it down, yes, it worked.
[13:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, but I looked at it and I looked at it and I looked at it and I looked at it and I looked at it and I was like, you know, well, or Monti do exactly, I don't like it.
[13:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I instinctively, I don't like it.
[13:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I'm going to change it.
[13:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm going to do something to change it today, which is a very, very, very long segue into what you said you would like to talk about.
[13:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't even remember, Shay.
[13:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Which was like doing the things, how we can build them up and build them up, is it time for a change?
[13:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Should I do this?
[13:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I just got that hacksaw and I just hacked this student up or down.
[13:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've never regretted it.
[13:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was exactly what I knew instinctively needed to happen.
[13:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And how applicable is that to life?
[13:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right.
[13:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: One thing I love you.
[13:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I get out of the sauce all.
[13:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Stu is often said, the only two men I have ever have to worry about you leaving me for.
[13:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Heal-faring, but still, in the month he died.
[13:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: God help me.
[13:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, it's was 68 year old, 70 year old British men that were really, currently are like back in the day with the friends, yeah, yeah, it was just logging it out in a little ram shackle cottage, a man, 20 years ago, here are very nice all speaking of crack.
[14:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, that.
[14:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There was an era with our family where like, I mean, my kids were, you know, Aiden was like nine.
[14:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That was what we, oh, this eyelash is going to be the death of me.
[14:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That is, I need a fill so bad.
[14:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I popped some fake ones on the edge for recording the show in there.
[14:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, that was what we did as a family.
[14:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We watched River Cottage, we watched Edwardian Farm, we watched Victorian Farm, we watched wartime farm, wartime farm, like over and over, I can just see, you know, two houses ago.
[14:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can just see like the bed piled with children and a laptop and I was just watching these shows.
[15:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, sometimes making the switch to natural ingredients is a big sacrifice.
[15:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And sometimes it is a big upgrade.
[15:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Tups and co is a natural skincare and makeup company that makes saying yes to these non-toxic products easy.
[15:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Take a peek at their foundation.
[15:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's clean.
[15:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It doubles the skincare.
[15:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's safe for your hormone health and it wears beautifully.
[15:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: In fact, women love it so much that alongside the frankincense balm and their reparative serum, it's one of their most popular products ever.
[15:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But tube sign of products doesn't stop there.
[15:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They cover body scrubs, body oils, lipsticks, mascara, face primer, eye shadows, tinted lip balms, and more.
[15:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So not only can your skin absolutely glow this season, but it can actually be free from harmful chemicals and hormone disruptors.
[15:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: As you fill stockings, as you prepare a small little gifts for your friends, or you're stocking up your own bathroom and makeup bag at home, you can shop tupses luxury natural skincare at tupsinko.com forward slash HMC that special link will save you 25% off if you're a first time tupses customer.
[16:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: his the season for tucking into a gorgeous bed dressed with American blossom linens.
[16:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This amazing brand brings crisp, soft and luxurious cotton sheets to us that will give you a great night's sleep keeping you cool in the summer and warm in the winter and the joy doesn't stop there.
[16:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: As you're layering your bed, your couches and cozy chairs this season or gift giving for a friend, be sure to check out their herringbone weave cotton blankets,
[16:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: new sheet patterns do vay covers pillows and Chevron soft wool throw blankets use code homemaker 2026 and enjoy a 15% discount from American blossom linens.
[16:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Those were really impactful Gilmour, Gilmour, Gilmour, Gilmour and River Cottage.
[16:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh my gosh, bless you.
[16:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And every seed he came in, I was like, wow, Gilmour.
[17:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Cooked me some meat outside.
[17:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And now like Alex Langley, he's like a little bit more, well, maybe it's just the algorithm.
[17:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: He's he just keeps popping up for me.
[17:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like you can't really find Ruth, she's hard to find but Alex is like still out there doing all the things, you know, he's like weaving a basket.
[17:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, I've been in this this shacks for four months.
[17:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I love it.
[17:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I, you know, I really really have so much respect for it though because he's just stayed like, you know, he's just somebody who's like, this is who I am.
[17:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is what I'm interested in.
[17:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not done changing.
[17:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, and he's not making reals about it.
[17:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's not.
[17:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's like, look, if you find this Randopost, good for you.
[17:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There ain't no hatch tags.
[17:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, she loved people like that.
[17:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The absolute tearing of my soul.
[18:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I was sick the other day and by sick, I mean, I had a rager of a period.
[18:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I was just laying in bed, just feeling sorry for myself.
[18:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Whew, and all the things that come along.
[18:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I was laying in bed, I didn't have my laptop, I didn't have my phone, I sat there in bed, Angela laid and stared at the wall, like I stared at my fireplace and it was wild.
[18:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I probably laid there for like 45 minutes.
[18:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Eyes open, just staring at this wall.
[18:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was like, I got to be hit again.
[18:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's really good for you, Shay.
[18:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I know.
[18:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's why I'm telling you.
[18:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That is really good for you.
[18:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, in my brain.
[18:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Where are we going?
[18:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What do you want to do?
[18:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What do you want to remember?
[18:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What do you want to create?
[18:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Beautiful.
[18:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was beautiful and I'm telling you.
[19:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: hate such media.
[19:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I hate it.
[19:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I do it because I have to, but if some magic fairy was like, look, right, photograph, cook, create, weave a basket.
[19:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I would be so happy to just do that and share it with people in slow, form ways.
[19:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like this, this is a long-form conversation.
[19:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Sure.
[19:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: are YouTube videos.
[19:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Those are long, formics, artistic expressions.
[19:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay.
[19:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: 20 minutes of video.
[19:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's a lot of footage, actually.
[19:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's a lot of stuff.
[19:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[19:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: writing, you know, these just longer, slower consumption forms.
[19:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's what River Cottage was, was like, or Edwardian farmers, like, here's eight episodes.
[19:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Those are not fast-paced episodes.
[19:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, we're going to spend half of an episode deconstructing a brass bed and cleaning it for bed bugs.
[20:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That we're going to spend another half of an episode.
[20:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: putting like paint on the ram.
[20:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So when he does his thing, you can tell which you he's been with.
[20:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, it's just like a member of all for four days.
[20:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Lime, we should now go to the lime kilns.
[20:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Lime, you'd be as true.
[20:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Remember that?
[20:24] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yes, I mean, I think that is the answer.
[20:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Jesus and slow for media.
[20:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think those are the answers.
[20:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Obviously Jesus is the most important, but I'm being serious.
[20:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I can't say sure.
[20:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, no, it's true.
[20:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I laid there.
[20:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I stared at the wall.
[20:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I thought, when was the last and you laid here?
[20:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It stared at a wall.
[20:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And what happens when you garden this.
[20:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Who happens when I garden?
[20:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't listen to anything when I garden.
[20:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I let my mind go.
[20:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I've talked about this so many times over.
[20:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I let it go wherever it wants because it needs to take off the trash.
[20:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, like you want to think about that stupid thing you said in high school for 15 minutes while you prune those girls.
[21:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay.
[21:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Think about it.
[21:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then do whatever it is you need to do with it for a I think that giving your split yourself space to quiet quiet quiet and it doesn't need to be
[21:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: enjoyable source of media.
[21:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yes, all you have to do, like, as a modern consumer, if you watch this show, just consider the length of the shots.
[21:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay, we're going to capture this flower blowing in the breeze.
[21:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Probably for a good two and a half seconds longer than your brain really is a custom too.
[21:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I was thinking, I bet that shot would be held for five seconds on Gardener's World and you have a bridge for social media or you were even told on YouTube it's two and a half seconds.
[22:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So yeah, exactly two and a half seconds longer.
[22:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's longer.
[22:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Sometimes when I'm feeling really hungry on YouTube, I'm like, actually we're just gonna stay here.
[22:09] \[UNKNOWN\]: Ha ha.
[22:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Stay.
[22:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Stay.
[22:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Stay and cut.
[22:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's just like yeah.
[22:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Um, okay, so I did it in the morning when I wake up.
[22:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I try not to just like jump out of bed.
[22:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I lay there and I just let my mind wander and I try.
[22:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: to, I mean, I guess, wander and try.
[22:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't really work together.
[22:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I do try to not let it just start ticking through today's to-do list.
[22:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just kind of, I want it to just be fluid.
[22:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And like, what do you want to think about?
[22:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, really, I'm here in the dark.
[22:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then I try to continue that.
[22:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I come downstairs and I make my coffee.
[22:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And even before I pray, I just sort of, I stare at the wall.
[22:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I like you were saying, I just stare at the wall.
[22:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No agenda, I put my phone, like, good five feet away, face down, because my phone's upstairs.
[23:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I do walk downstairs with it.
[23:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I set it down and make my coffee.
[23:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I've like, that ritual, pull, you know, ritual.
[23:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then I just sit.
[23:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then I pray, then I'll check my email, then I'll go work out.
[23:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I've been trying to be more mindful of just like,
[23:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I like not reaching for it to be down stimuli or whatever, you know, just just let me down time.
[23:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[23:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There is something so cathartic and healing about I think that particular time of things for you and I too, because it was when we were more thing in a lot of ways.
[23:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: and babies and homes, building homes, and like super, super beautiful wild sticky lovely time.
[24:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then it's like, it was like a nourishing food that we stopped feeding ourselves.
[24:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, and also at the time, it was like a, it was a validation.
[24:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Hey, these weird things you're interested in, they're, they're legitimate.
[24:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're people are out there like going for broke, interested in this, you know, like, yeah.
[24:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, and then you sort of, you know, we did use them as learning tools too.
[24:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So then, okay, well, I know how to make bacon, so I don't need to watch that episode anymore.
[24:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You kind of just graduate as it were, um, but then Alex Langley pucks up, pops up on your feed and you think, oh, man, lots of them are that again, you know, yeah, yeah.
[25:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's a one-sided relationship, which is a change in the context of relationships, but they affect in really powerful, tangible ways, the direction of your life.
[25:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: What did one of those comments call her relationship with us last week?
[25:24] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Polly something.
[25:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There was a word for like a one-sided friendship.
[25:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Somebody did say it in the comments last week.
[25:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[25:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's for sure.
[25:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That doesn't mean like the show.
[25:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: An unvalid.
[25:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not unvalid.
[25:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's not an important.
[25:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No.
[25:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[25:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's.
[25:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, it's strange.
[25:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I can think of a lot of, I think it can think of a lot of people like that, where, you know, I didn't know of Elizabeth Elliott till she was dead.
[25:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I know the sound of her voice, like I listen to her every day.
[25:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[25:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So that's strange.
[26:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And now she's already gone and yet her words are impacting my mood.
[26:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Her words are impacting the way I'm acting towards my children after I just talked to myself
[26:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There is something to me so incredibly, I know our theme for this season is cozy, okay?
[26:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Those like an astaltic sort of pieces of things are those are like heart cozy to me.
[26:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[26:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then you still have to be.
[26:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that's really good for this time of year or two because you're trying to take your house and like steer it in a direction for the holidays and, you know, especially as the kids are getting older, you know, I always say like with the kids, I have this very cognizant of the fact that.
[27:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: All these memories that I hold always makes me think of the first about Mary pondering up these things in her heart, but all the memories that I hold, they don't necessarily hold.
[27:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: In fact, they probably don't, because they were children.
[27:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And so there's only so much memory bank, you know?
[27:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And so where I'm just like oozing with nostalgia,
[27:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're just trying to like get their place in the world, you know?
[27:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I think the holidays are this unique opportunity for the homemaker, maybe more so the mother to
[27:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: to really like frolic in that nostalgia and like, no, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pour concrete around these traditions and I'm gonna get out those old Christmas decorations that you made.
[27:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I'm gonna make sure that to a certain extent, my memories are also your memories.
[28:02] \[SPEAKER_01\]: My cozy is also your cozy.
[28:05] \[SPEAKER_00\]: My first thought was little handmade ornaments because every year when they pull them out,
[28:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: they'll keep remembering, they'll keep remembering.
[28:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So Angela has this tradition to where she travels, she'll make sure she gets a Christmas ornament from.
[28:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because when you bring them out, I've started doing the same thing.
[28:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: When you bring them out, you say, oh, yeah, this.
[28:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is when I saw this person and you're creating, you have to create it.
[28:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, you have to say it a lot, you have to, it's intentional, it's intentional, cozy, I have two children at least and they have their, I saved all my children's as many as I could save and find, you know, their pacifiers, okay, so every year it's like, wait, who's this one?
[28:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's mine, you know, like, but the two oldest children, they started this on their own, they, they would try to put theirs, the highest on the tree.
[29:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, so I, I saved them and we use them as ornaments, so it's it's fun to get those out and have them say like, no mine was one that said I love mom, you know, mine was had to teddy bear on it, whatever, you know, yeah, well, I was at my mom's for dinner the other night and she had one of my old cookbooks out.
[29:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I just, you know, you don't, oh, I don't open it that often.
[29:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And so the kids sat down and we're looking through it.
[29:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And of course, there were sweet little pictures of them when they're all just scrumptious.
[29:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mine feels like a family album.
[29:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's so cute.
[29:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You're like, breaks my heart that's the picture of Aiden chewing on the grass and the grass.
[29:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Nope.
[29:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Nope.
[29:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And now he's like, oh, yeah.
[29:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly it that it is that being a snapshot of what we were eating and what we were doing and you know like there's a goose egg custard in family table and I was like, oh yeah, we had our geese it like everyone's sharing all these memories about being chased around by the geese they said to go with tennis rack.
[30:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think that's one of the things that's challenging is a homemaker.
[30:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like some of that nostalgia is intentional and some of it is just living life.
[30:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Some of it's just living life and then and then look, we all six months changes things.
[30:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh my gosh, I saw a video of myself from five years ago.
[30:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, wow, what I looked like five years ago.
[30:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I look great!
[30:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh my gosh, you look the same, you're not that long.
[30:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No, but you notice differences, but you notice differences.
[30:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay, and five years doesn't seem like that long.
[31:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And then it is.
[31:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, but that's the creepy thing.
[31:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Think about five years, a newborn de Kindergarten, a newborn de Kindergarten,
[31:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, that's what they don't tell you about when you become a mother.
[31:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, like hate those four months.
[31:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Those four months, they're going to be like, no, I know, except if you have a baby will use a little baby for and burn.
[31:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, just so little, so little and so sweet.
[31:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, so we're doing no screen of number, except soccer matches don't count.
[31:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: family movies.
[31:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We get to do a family movie on the weekend together.
[31:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But, you know, rewatching all of those rewatching whatever show it is that like scratches.
[32:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like watching wartime farmers something I would or old river cottage.
[32:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[32:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think wartime was my favorite.
[32:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I didn't want it to be, but I think it ended up being my absolute favorite.
[32:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, I was my favorite.
[32:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think I'm going to have Julia.
[32:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So Julian's like, just up to his eyeballs in World War II right now for school.
[32:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: knock yourself out.
[32:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then if you want to supplement with the rest of the history podcast, let me know and we'll flesh out whatever.
[32:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I cannot believe what that kid can read and they just come upstairs and re-gourge back to me.
[32:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, in all my boys, every every man in our families, like super in they can name every plane, every tank, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[32:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And we want to see my grandma a few weeks ago and driving down
[33:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't even know, I guess it's 94.
[33:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I know how to get places.
[33:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't necessarily know what all the highways are called.
[33:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can get anywhere.
[33:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I was driving, and I'm like right at the state line Wisconsin, Illinois, and I look over, and I see like tanks and planes, and I just start shrieking, boy, look, look, look over there, look over there.
[33:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And sure enough, it's like an old military museum.
[33:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that was cool.
[33:29] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I think, but he's watched wartime farm.
[33:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[33:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But probably it's been a whole time.
[33:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No, I bet he was five years old.
[33:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: That's what I'm saying.
[33:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like it's time to circle back around.
[33:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[33:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[33:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think he'd really be into it.
[33:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And yeah.
[33:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[33:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[33:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[33:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is the time of year for it.
[33:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Have you been at your Christmas stuff?
[33:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I mean, I know it's.
[34:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But also I want to like put out my not Christmas, but like my Thanksgiving stuff like my Okay, my greenery garlands in like a few of those things that but it's still been just really beautiful here So I haven't felt it just need poopy here like three days ago I did so just day before yesterday I just went and caught all my snaps and they were magnificent I brought a big bouquet in that was cool.
[34:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Otherwise it's done.
[34:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have like
[34:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I need to bring the dolly in and it's super done because now it's just going to be like 52 to 42 degrees and it's just clouds the next 10 days are just we haven't seen the sun in days it's already my kids are already like well this is depressing.
[34:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right, right, it's really bad.
[34:52] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was gorgeous day after day after day October.
[34:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think the sun shown every day in October.
[34:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was magnificent.
[34:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then it just was like a switch flipped.
[35:00] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, that's what happens.
[35:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is what happens.
[35:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So we don't have any to create it.
[35:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We have to create it.
[35:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We have to find ways to create it.
[35:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, I think cooking yourself something that makes you happy.
[35:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's a little lift.
[35:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh yeah, we're like big with the homemade pizzas outside, especially at this time here, like when during the summer we're in town because we've been at the beach all day, but now like tonight I'm going to make pizzas outside and it's cozy, you know, get the fire and
[35:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Right now, I'm like in clean.
[35:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm still in I think I did a YouTube video about a couple weeks ago Like I'm I meant like nesting mode before the holidays I am that's what I did all morning.
[35:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know like you were talking about yeah execution list I'm just thinking like what needs to be done do it check.
[35:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, what needs to be done do it check
[35:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like with a vengeance, so and and some things are timely like I bought the the big deer fence for my garden.
[36:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's just sitting out in the garden.
[36:08] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's just sitting out in the yard and I told you all this at baby.
[36:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I cannot, my soul cannot take waking up and seeing deer in the garden all winter.
[36:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I can't do it.
[36:20] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're just eating my roses, eating my apple trees, the big like netting obviously that I put up.
[36:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The spring is down.
[36:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They bust right through it.
[36:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I bought like a fortress.
[36:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's like Jurassic.
[36:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay.
[36:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I like Jurassic Park and it just needs to be installed.
[36:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And so
[36:37] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Today he cleaned the kitchen ceiling in preparation to paint it because it's just baking grease and nasty It's been nine years since it's been painted and I got home I had to run to the shop to like get the wine order and I got home and I'm looking around He's like okay, so I can paint it this day this day.
[36:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I said actually actually actually is we say in our family actually Hold that thought until January when we're snowed in because that looks good enough.
[37:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I accept that
[37:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: move on to the fence or something like that is good.
[37:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I will put everything back.
[37:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The copper is polished and so I'm just like trying to make my way to bringing the Christmas tubs up so I have a little bit more to do.
[37:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I probably won't start decorating until like the week before Thanksgiving.
[37:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just have this thing about.
[37:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: every year.
[37:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just like to rearrange a little, clean a little, there's light bulbs around, replace the light bulbs, store them on broken, fix the door knob, you know, just do a few things before you bring in the chaos of the Christmas decor, because it's a lot.
[37:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It ends up paying a lot.
[37:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: and then by January it's like burn it all burn it all yeah you have a special space and you want to make it beautiful some of the most powerful ways we transform our spaces is with light and scent and the gorgeous candles and fragrances from salt and light by Sammy will do just that well my gosh you guys I have their candles all over my bedroom I cannot get enough of how thoughtful and refined the scent smell Sammy and Ben are on a mission with their family
[38:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: to help you make your home less toxic.
[38:19] \[SPEAKER_00\]: This is a brand that you can trust to bring you clean, cozy comfort this autumn with their gorgeous line of candles.
[38:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're made from 100% coconut and beeswax.
[38:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Have these beautiful woodwicks that sound gorgeous when the candle is being burned.
[38:35] \[SPEAKER_00\]: and they sent their candles with non-toxic fragrance oils and essential oils.
[38:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Each candle is hand-pored and burns for over 45 hours in their autumn line.
[38:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You can choose from sense-like salted pumpkin butter, country pear, homestead, or my very personal favorite, cider and bourbon.
[38:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Apple with the little spies, all about it, it's gentle, it's moving, it's the easiest way to transform your space into something magical this season.
[39:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You can shop salt and light by Sammy, that's s-a-m-i.com and use the code homemaker chic for 10% off their gorgeous line of autumn candles at checkout homemakers unless you live in some magic world, my guess is that you have to clean your
[39:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Is it something that could potentially be causing harm to those in your home?
[39:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Is it toxic?
[39:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Is it one of those grocery store brands that claims to be clean?
[39:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But is anything but maybe it's time for a real change.
[39:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Branch basics is disrupting the cleaning space in a few really intentional ways, like fully disclosing all ingredients on their packaging, which is something that most conventional cleaning brands
[39:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: still don't do.
[39:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Everything is fragrance-free and made with safe ingredients designed for every day use across your home.
[39:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's safe for your babies, for your pets, for your hormones, for your skin, for you.
[39:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Their line of cleaners is built around one powerful plant and mineral-based concentrate.
[40:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So you just take that concentrate, dilute it to different ratios for different cleaning needs.
[40:09] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And here's the good news.
[40:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Branch Basics is now available everywhere you shop at Target, Amazon, and of course branchbasics.com.
[40:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: For anyone grabbing the premium starter kit, you can get 15% off at branchbasics.com with our code, homemaker's chic, all-one word, and let them know you heard about Branch Basics right here on homemaker's chic podcast.
[40:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I went through my house as I was cleaning through today and I
[40:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: cleaning and also you do have a clean home to look forward to when you come back from school and also the kids have to live outside.
[40:47] \[UNKNOWN\]: Yeah.
[40:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why?
[40:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Because and also you're not allowed anywhere.
[40:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You ferole little there monsters.
[40:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're monsters.
[40:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I went into my living room the last time I
[41:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And so we, you know, you guys know, kids are mobs to a flame when there is a clean room.
[41:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They feel that energy.
[41:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're like pigs.
[41:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like no offense to them.
[41:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: They're just like pigs.
[41:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So I walk into living room.
[41:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: All the lights are shut off.
[41:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm already mad.
[41:20] \[SPEAKER_00\]: All the lights are shut off.
[41:21] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's a fire in the fireplace.
[41:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's an ambiance on the television.
[41:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Oh, when is in his blue velvet?
[41:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, um,
[41:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What's it called when they're like a dungeon master a DM a dungeon master DM for Dungeons and Dragons.
[41:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's got his hood on.
[41:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like a wizard pointy blue velvet cloak hood thing.
[41:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He's got all the books and he looked there being super sweet like he's making special characters for Georgia and Julie at will.
[41:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're all like totally geeking out with all the dice and they've got all things.
[41:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: moved the table, moved the couches, all the pillows piled onto the floor.
[41:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why would you leave the coffee table where it goes, Shay?
[42:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I just, I had to just walk away, you guys, I was like, okay, okay, I'll guard.
[42:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Why did you really mean all that move?
[42:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's like a dance move, it's like an pivot.
[42:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Look somewhere else, ball of the foot, kick ball change, go in the other way.
[42:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But as I was thinking through my house and I, you're with a pat in a paper, I don't know if any of you guys do this, but and I was just like, okay, try to see it with some fresh eyes.
[42:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Hmm.
[42:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because when you live in a space, you can really get used to things.
[42:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like, what are, what are you not saying here that may be, you need to see.
[42:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[42:41] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Thanks.
[42:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And yeah, there are some, there are some things to take care of.
[42:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Mm-hmm.
[42:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, we have a shendler in the kitchen with one stem, one arm that works.
[42:54] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I brought Joel over.
[42:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was like, and do you see this?
[42:58] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[42:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No one can learn in this environment.
[43:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It is a dungeon.
[43:02] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You must fix it.
[43:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So you have a matter of originally you wanted to talk about the things that we put off.
[43:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: that really don't take that much to do.
[43:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And why do we do it?
[43:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Because those things bring us such pleasure in our homes when we finally do them.
[43:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So if I told you guys about that stupid piece of trim in my kitchen, A, it's not painted to match the rest of the trim.
[43:30] \[SPEAKER_00\]: B, it popped out of the wall a hundred years ago.
[43:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Every time somebody walks in the kitchen or they kick it off, it's got all kinds of creatures living underneath and I'm just sure of it.
[43:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And it's awful.
[43:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I don't, I just, why don't I just go get a nail and pound it in and spend two and a half minutes painting it.
[43:48] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Why don't I do that?
[43:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: What is that?
[43:49] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And why do we do that?
[43:50] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And how do we not do that?
[43:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Go.
[43:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, I think the amount of time you spend thinking about it is like equal to the the time of execution.
[44:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, I think.
[44:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's the rumination that, I don't know.
[44:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, I've done a couple things this week.
[44:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm like, well, that wasn't so hard.
[44:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Was that?
[44:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, I have this vintage French door knob on our downstairs bathroom and it fell off.
[44:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I need just to be put back together and then put back on.
[44:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So putting it back together was step one.
[44:28] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's in my toolbox, like it's not rocket science.
[44:31] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I went and got it and I screwed it back together.
[44:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Now the next part is like taking a little tiny, tiny screwdriver and I have to make sure it doesn't fall out again.
[44:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But even just holding it, I was like, there it is.
[44:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: There's the mystery door knob that's been vexing you.
[44:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: all here because people just have to use the hook at night to close the bathroom door because there's no door knob on it or are you in it yet like what is this what is the big deal about this thing why would you do that yeah and some things I need Joel's help for a way of like
[45:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Remember when we went to New Orleans and made that cute dresser sink thing in the hallway and that totally inspired me to do the same thing in our upstairs bathroom.
[45:15] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I did it and I put all these mega coats of poly on the wood thinking that would be good enough.
[45:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: because I have feral children that will lay a shopping wet washcloth on the same spot every single day, day after day after day for years.
[45:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So it rotted the wood out like the veneer was peeling.
[45:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was like a good like half inch missing from the top of the stressor.
[45:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well, I'm not willing to like, oh, it's awful.
[45:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, wow, awful.
[45:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not willing to undo my whole creative, this inspired me when I was somewhere with Shay, project.
[45:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I told Joel, I've been telling him, like, I think he knew to fix that.
[45:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I need you to fix that.
[45:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have an idea.
[45:51] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So then I had him get some Bondo and he patched it.
[45:57] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Well that's done now.
[45:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Now all I have to do is get some paint.
[46:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm going to do a full marble finish.
[46:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm going to do a epoxy on the top just like I did at the shop.
[46:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then there's stupid soggy washclots.
[46:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We won't ruin the top of it.
[46:10] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And we don't have anywhere to hang a towel.
[46:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I got towel holders for the bathroom.
[46:14] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So maybe now they can drape their soggy washclots over the towel holder.
[46:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's just like little things.
[46:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And I don't know
[46:22] \[SPEAKER_01\]: you know, I don't know what it is.
[46:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We're suddenly like on any given week.
[46:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You have the mental capacity for something I've in my own life working really hard on being organized.
[46:32] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have my menu going again things are tidy.
[46:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm I'm up earlier.
[46:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, so I think as much as we want to say.
[46:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, I mean, we did a whole season like it doesn't just happen.
[46:48] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm sure some of the groundwork I've been laying in other areas where I've been choosing to be more disciplined.
[46:55] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I've been choosing to be the kind of person I want to be, which takes action.
[47:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: then all the sudden, there's like little gaps where I, oh, I can do this now.
[47:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, I'm sure it's not just some magical moment where I've been able to do XYZ.
[47:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have to believe that maybe some of the ideas where I've been more disciplined or maybe made better choices for myself and for my schedule are then eventually creating space.
[47:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's not instant.
[47:26] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Do you remember
[47:31] \[SPEAKER_00\]: you would just dive into something, like, oh, that was not a shame.
[47:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Let's, I know that's what I'm saying, though, like, I mean, that goes back to the Leanne Morgan episode.
[47:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: The, the interview of, like, there's a big difference between, like, being a mom and being surrounded by kids.
[47:46] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And then all of a sudden, you're like, oh, I have some time, you know?
[47:50] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Oh, yeah, that was an happen.
[47:52] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I was a big secret about the details more, you can think about the details more
[47:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: some of those, like, bigger projects sort of die down.
[48:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But I do think the temptation, I found myself getting like this, where our home is pretty settled, like, there's not a lot of shuffling that can happen in our house, rooms or what they are, we're not adding on, we're not doing anything, so there's a lot of little things that's always true of a house.
[48:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: There's plenty of things, but some of the bigger construction things that we had to take on when we moved in, those are done now.
[48:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It was real big nasty projects.
[48:36] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[48:38] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And so I can clean my house really quickly and things are for the most part more or less the way they need to be and you could always swap out like I could swap out my kind of shabby chic side tables for something much nicer those kinds of things right but those are small things.
[48:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I could clean out my cabinet and have more time to devote to that.
[48:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think the temptation though, and maybe we have slightly older listeners, and I'm curious if this is true.
[49:06] \[SPEAKER_00\]: The temptation can kind of be like, I don't know, now I'm tired and I don't want to do hard things anymore.
[49:12] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't want to do like big, heavy lifts of things anymore, where when you're younger and you just have this, this unbridled ambition and this desire to build this life, you're like, you know what?
[49:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, this is going to be insanely hard and okay, it'll just be a season of temporary balance and let's do it.
[49:33] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And now you don't want to get like the, it makes me think of that Aladdin, like, who
[49:43] \[SPEAKER_00\]: do you know what I mean you know I don't hey nothing can don't rock the boat this is my clean cozy life it's all tidy you know I can't have the grandkids coming in here jumping on the couch is right like or even bigger things were like maybe the Lord's calling you to like hey it's time to go time to go somewhere else or it's time to do something else or it's and you're like
[50:11] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I got my pictures on the wall just the way I like them.
[50:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: My gallery wall is done.
[50:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Don't you think that it seems like that could be a temptation?
[50:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm imagining it good.
[50:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[50:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm not anywhere near that, but I'm imagining it good.
[50:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: But I mean, I look at my, like, you know, okay, okay, so maybe that is a temptation.
[50:35] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I won't speak for my mom, but
[50:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: you know my mom's always been a really like giving in generous person but um but busy okay she's a she's a business woman she has her own brand she's busy she's creative but i would say that's after my grandpa passed uh he was so he was just so giving right it i remember her being like not rattled but being
[51:07] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like having a sort of a moment where she realized what she wanted to be like, or what she wanted to be more like, and I would say that since then.
[51:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Like, yes, her house is just so, yes, they have their little projects that they do and some of them are quite big, but she is super present and super involved and so, so maybe she did have her moment where she realized I want to.
[51:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Two more than just the gallery wall.
[51:42] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I don't know.
[51:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I mean, I don't want to like put my mom down But I can definitely see like a change.
[51:47] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's really interesting to see somebody that you love so much and that you're super close to pivot And it wasn't even I didn't really even think the pivot was needed But now that she's done pivoted.
[51:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like wow You know Yeah Yeah, I think that's interesting.
[52:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think that the
[52:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I guess what I don't want as a homemaker is to get to a point where you kind of can't be bothered or the adventures over.
[52:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So like, you know, you guys moving to dark county, buying your house, building your garden, renovating things, opening a store like these are those are grand adventures.
[52:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: They're huge.
[52:33] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah.
[52:34] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Those are grand adventures.
[52:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Stewart and I were watching something the other day and it said, look, good stories suck to make.
[52:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That was like, okay.
[52:44] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[52:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm just like this, true.
[52:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like the stories that we tell, they weren't stories where we were laughing.
[52:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: this is fabulous.
[52:58] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is character building.
[53:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I'm learning so much along the way.
[53:01] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Thank you, Lord.
[53:04] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's not what we were thinking.
[53:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: No.
[53:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't know.
[53:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think when you have enough of those experiences, you're like, I don't really want to opt in to that.
[53:16] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I think that happens to allow us people get older, right?
[53:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like we see that sometimes with people on our trips, like going to Europe,
[53:25] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's like you're just going to, okay?
[53:28] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Whether it's like misplights or train strikes or like I have a thousand from the first time I went to Europe.
[53:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right, none of them were fun in the moment.
[53:39] \[SPEAKER_00\]: None of them.
[53:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But when we're thinking about the way that that applies to the home, I guess what I would encourage filmmakers at at this time of the year, especially it's like, yeah, just be bothered, like the point isn't to to decorate your home and have it all perfect and lovely and just so that's not the point.
[54:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Right, like we're talking about building nostalgia and
[54:07] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Building a home, and that's just adventurous, man.
[54:10] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's yeah, that's messy.
[54:14] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That's that's different That's the different kind of go to other goal and Different kind of cozy Different kind of go through that Through that Well, Monty Who I love you
[54:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And I wish you, well, you know, he's not coming out.
[54:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Like he's just going to hold up it long metal.
[54:40] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And that's it.
[54:42] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I don't have it again again.
[54:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Yeah, I can't, I'd be shocked.
[54:47] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I would be shocked, too.
[54:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, I did really have the initial announcement that I sent you.
[54:53] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I had a lot of respect for that announcement.
[54:56] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Just as we're closing out the way we opened.
[55:00] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I had a lot of respect for it, okay?
[55:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I'm, you know, in a certain stage of life and there's certain less hormones and you just get a little bit more blunt and you just get a little bit more.
[55:11] \[SPEAKER_01\]: This is just the way things are.
[55:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You're not apologizing as much, you're not explaining near as much.
[55:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: And that's, I do think that's harder for women.
[55:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So I really, really respected his announcement.
[55:27] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was short, it was brief.
[55:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Tell people what it was like, I don't even remember because it was weeks and weeks ago that I sent that to you But he was just like in the garden with the dog and he's just like hey, Ned I'm not doing gardener's world anymore.
[55:44] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's been great.
[55:45] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Thanks so much I don't know what's next to you soon.
[55:49] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was just like it was just not apologetically gushing all over everybody in their fandom and
[55:59] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I have to make changes in my personal life.
[56:01] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It wasn't anything like that.
[56:03] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was stoic.
[56:04] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was British.
[56:05] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was concise.
[56:06] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It was stiff upper lip, carry on.
[56:09] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know, I loved it.
[56:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I did.
[56:12] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I took a cue from that.
[56:13] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I think that's your...
[56:16] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I loved noted.
[56:17] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Noted.
[56:18] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I just thought, that's what I thought.
[56:19] \[SPEAKER_01\]: I thought noted.
[56:21] \[SPEAKER_01\]: You know?
[56:22] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mm-hmm.
[56:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah.
[56:23] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I think he said something along lines.
[56:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: it's time or like it's time something just like yeah sure it's that and uh i think i know i've told the story but i have this friend and she said to me one time she's like i just go through life like a walking apology and uh it just broke my heart and i was like oh i do not want to be like that oh sorry sorry i'm so sorry i said like you're just constantly living in this idea that you're disappointing people like my team you
[56:54] \[SPEAKER_00\]: leaving.
[56:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: He was going to disappoint people.
[56:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Mm-hmm.
[56:57] \[SPEAKER_00\]: You people are going to be sad.
[56:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: But he's still just he's just Montague.
[57:03] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And he has to like get in bed as a person every night.
[57:08] \[SPEAKER_00\]: And live in like live alongside his efforts and his work and his schedule at all.
[57:13] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We don't have to do any of that.
[57:15] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We're just consumer consumers.
[57:17] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Yeah, for sure.
[57:18] \[SPEAKER_00\]: So
[57:23] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Love y'all.
[57:25] \[SPEAKER_01\]: So much.
[57:26] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It'll be fine.
[57:27] \[SPEAKER_00\]: That'll be great.
[57:29] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Don't think you find.
[57:30] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's all going to be okay.
[57:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It'll help you.
[57:32] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Okay.
[57:34] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Lady, we didn't even get to comments, Angel.
[57:36] \[SPEAKER_00\]: We didn't do any.
[57:37] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I have a lot of bold up here.
[57:38] \[SPEAKER_01\]: We didn't do anything.
[57:39] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's a good show.
[57:40] \[SPEAKER_01\]: It's okay.
[57:41] \[SPEAKER_01\]: Okay.
[57:43] \[SPEAKER_01\]: No apologizing.
[57:45] \[SPEAKER_00\]: I'm just really funny.
[57:46] \[SPEAKER_00\]: It's about a big Norwegian Ed getting stuck in a spider.
[57:51] \[SPEAKER_00\]: All right, we'll get to that next week.
[57:53] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Um, I'll leave you now.
[57:55] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Thanks for being here with us and we'll get cozy with you next Monday.
[57:59] \[SPEAKER_00\]: Cheers.

Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. Every show and episode belongs to its publisher and plays from the publisher's own feed; this site hosts none of them.