# Jessica McKenna Disobeys Bridger

An episode of [I Said No Gifts! A comedy interview podcast with Bridger Winegar](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1499562159), 15 Jan 2026, 1 h 11 min.

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Bridger takes a nonviolent path even after Jessica McKenna (Off Book) bombards him with an unwanted gift. The two discuss rich children, cooking with citrus, and Red Lobster's decline. Don't forget to review the podcast, it's the least you can do. Join the Patreon for bonus episodes and more Follow the show on Instagram I Said No Gifts! Merch Have a question for I Said No Emails or a Gift or a Curse suggestion? Email us at isaidnogifts@gmail.com and Bridger may or may not read it aloud on the show. Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3Uw1W4v See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:08] Speaker 1: But I invited you here. I thought I made myself
[0:14] Speaker 1: perfectly clear. But you're a guest to my home. You
[0:21] Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty, And I said.
[0:26] Speaker 2: No, guests.
[0:27] Speaker 1: Your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff.
[0:35] Speaker 1: So how do you dance?
[0:36] Speaker 2: Surbey me?
[0:49] Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. We're
[0:54] Speaker 3: here in the studio. I made it here safely. I
[0:57] Speaker 3: did a little dancing in the car. I'm in layers.
[1:01] Speaker 3: It's a great way to wear two shirts. What's going on?
[1:05] Speaker 3: I had another electrifying weekend. That's about all I can
[1:10] Speaker 3: say about that. I had a real conflict this morning.
[1:13] Speaker 3: I almost wore the podcast t shirt, just because I
[1:15] Speaker 3: love it so much. But I feel like, I think
[1:18] Speaker 3: we all know that's extremely tacky, and I don't know
[1:20] Speaker 3: what to do. Could I wear the shirt if I
[1:23] Speaker 3: just scratched out the name of the podcast? You know,
[1:26] Speaker 3: so it's just the graphic. I don't know, But don't
[1:30] Speaker 3: reach out. I'll figure out. I'll go on that journey
[1:32] Speaker 3: on my own. What happened over the weekend. I saw Hamnet,
[1:37] Speaker 3: which is you know, it's beautiful. The big revelation for
[1:40] Speaker 3: me is that Shakespeare was married to a heckler. I
[1:45] Speaker 3: don't know what to say. I imagine they had a
[1:46] Speaker 3: hard time going to comedy shows together. Didn't go to
[1:49] Speaker 3: the Little House on the Prairie. They had some sort
[1:53] Speaker 3: of meetup or show reunion somewhere in Santa Clarita, and
[1:59] Speaker 3: all of the VIP tickets were sold out. They were
[2:03] Speaker 3: also six hundred dollars, which made me think, there are
[2:07] Speaker 3: people with bigger problems than me. But maybe one year,
[2:10] Speaker 3: maybe we could do a gofund me to get me
[2:12] Speaker 3: to go to the Little House on the Prairie reunion.
[2:15] Speaker 3: We did watch an episode of Little House on the Prairie,
[2:18] Speaker 3: the most recent one we watched. The basic story was
[2:23] Speaker 3: a morphine addict came through town and taught Mary how
[2:26] Speaker 3: to play a little piano. That was a good one.
[2:30] Speaker 3: We had to skip the one with the centennial picnic.
[2:32] Speaker 3: That's the most boring episode of television ever made. Okay,
[2:37] Speaker 3: is there anything else I need to talk about? No,
[2:39] Speaker 3: I don't think so. We're here changing your life, rocking
[2:42] Speaker 3: your world. That's what the point of this podcast is.
[2:46] Speaker 3: Let's get into it. Today's guest is just absolutely fantastic.
[2:49] Speaker 3: It's Jessica McKenna, Jessica, welcome to Issaid No kids.
[2:53] Speaker 2: Wow, Hi, thank you.
[2:54] Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so happy to have you here in your
[2:57] Speaker 3: kind of representing your favorite corporation in this Disney T shirt.
[3:01] Speaker 2: Everyone has to pick one and you know, uh, and
[3:04] Speaker 2: there are two. There's two, and they're both bad, but
[3:08] Speaker 2: this one has fun rides.
[3:10] Speaker 3: I yes, yeah, I think that's a good way to
[3:13] Speaker 3: pick a corporation. Which one will let you go on
[3:15] Speaker 3: a rind? Which one has a haunted mansion.
[3:18] Speaker 2: Who has fireworks? You know? Who has a duck with
[3:21] Speaker 2: no pants?
[3:22] Speaker 3: Right? And very few of them, very.
[3:24] Speaker 2: Few of the two. And so I picked my side. No,
[3:26] Speaker 2: I apologize, I'm really time stamping. You're as No.
[3:29] Speaker 3: I like this. We're recording mid December. This will come
[3:32] Speaker 3: out mid January, and now people's people are going, oh.
[3:36] Speaker 2: God, I put the Holidays behind me.
[3:38] Speaker 3: Life was so different then. How am I supposed to
[3:40] Speaker 3: relate to this episode? But I love that it's got
[3:44] Speaker 3: Donald Mickey and Minnie and Daisy. Yeah yeah, oh and goofy.
[3:48] Speaker 3: Let's see things.
[3:50] Speaker 2: I know, right, it's uh and I tried to figure
[3:52] Speaker 2: this out. Oh gosh, I we're just talking about switching
[3:56] Speaker 2: to a visual medium in podcasts. But when I first
[3:59] Speaker 2: got it, I was like, what is the pattern? And
[4:01] Speaker 2: then this is interesting, Right, I'm wearing a shirt if
[4:05] Speaker 2: you're just listening, I'm wearing a shirt that has squares
[4:07] Speaker 2: with the main Disney characters and it's holiday. They're all
[4:09] Speaker 2: in Santa hats and there's a snow quality about it.
[4:12] Speaker 2: But the pattern actually goes vertical, not horizontal.
[4:15] Speaker 3: That's why I write it was so confusing. It's confusing, baffling.
[4:19] Speaker 3: It's almost like reading English versus reading Chinese right exactly right,
[4:24] Speaker 3: up and down right.
[4:25] Speaker 2: So once I saw that, I thought, oh, now it
[4:27] Speaker 2: makes sense. One line I would say is the main
[4:30] Speaker 2: three of Mickey Donald goofy. And then we got Daisy
[4:35] Speaker 2: Mini Pluto.
[4:36] Speaker 3: Okay, so that makes me think is Pluto a woman?
[4:40] Speaker 2: Right?
[4:41] Speaker 3: I don't think we ever got to the bottom of that.
[4:43] Speaker 2: Pluto full of mysteries.
[4:44] Speaker 3: In general, that's the one animal that doesn't talk right.
[4:47] Speaker 2: But is also a dog, right, and is the size
[4:51] Speaker 2: that a mouse can own them.
[4:53] Speaker 3: But there's a lot going on, a lot going on.
[4:58] Speaker 3: That poor creature a servant to the rest of these
[5:01] Speaker 3: evil animals.
[5:03] Speaker 2: Much like the corporation, we have to pick and Pluto
[5:06] Speaker 2: has picked. He thought, Now, do I love a mouse
[5:09] Speaker 2: having dominion over me? No? But what are the alternatives?
[5:13] Speaker 3: Does he belong to Mickey? Yeah, okay, yeah he does.
[5:17] Speaker 3: Does they need to? They've got to figure out what's
[5:19] Speaker 3: happening in the world of Mickey Mouse. I think, like
[5:21] Speaker 3: I feel like the world is too chaotic. It's anarchy.
[5:24] Speaker 2: You know, it'd be great. We had this happen last
[5:27] Speaker 2: year when the Steamboat Willie cartoon hit one hundred years
[5:30] Speaker 2: So now it's public domain. Oh right, right, we should agree,
[5:33] Speaker 2: you and I together right now that when Pluto becomes
[5:37] Speaker 2: public domain, we write his originc figure it out for
[5:40] Speaker 2: cure you.
[5:40] Speaker 3: No.
[5:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's corporate espionage. I think he
[5:43] Speaker 2: works for Paramount.
[5:46] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why he's been so quiet. Yeah, he's kind
[5:48] Speaker 3: of a slug worth of the Willy Wonka world. Interesting?
[5:52] Speaker 3: Are you a Do you go to Disneyland often?
[5:54] Speaker 2: I do? I grew up. I'm an Orange County kid,
[5:57] Speaker 2: So I we did, like hear the fireworks from my backyard?
[5:59] Speaker 3: Oh god, were you calling and reporting it all.
[6:05] Speaker 2: Before or after the parade? I can't get the timing right.
[6:07] Speaker 2: Uh No, I really do love it. Rachel Bloom wrote
[6:11] Speaker 2: a memoir like a collection of stories. She has a
[6:14] Speaker 2: story about loving Disney. She's also a SOCU kid, and
[6:17] Speaker 2: she has a line that really resonated with me more
[6:19] Speaker 2: than any other poetry or piece of religious thought or
[6:22] Speaker 2: anything I've ever read in my life, where she said,
[6:24] Speaker 2: the right amount of loving Disney is the amount that
[6:28] Speaker 2: I love it.
[6:29] Speaker 3: Oh wow, that.
[6:31] Speaker 2: Anymore is insane and detached from reality and like grow
[6:34] Speaker 2: up and anything less is cynical. And I was like,
[6:37] Speaker 2: Rachel and I have a lot in comment, but I
[6:38] Speaker 2: was like, this might be the most significant thing we
[6:40] Speaker 2: haven't got got a connection.
[6:41] Speaker 3: I know, how often are you going to Disneyland?
[6:44] Speaker 2: When I grew up on the and the passes were
[6:46] Speaker 2: like more affordable, we would go a lot, Like I
[6:47] Speaker 2: would do a thing where I would get like dropped off,
[6:49] Speaker 2: like it was my mall.
[6:50] Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah that makes sense.
[6:51] Speaker 2: It was cool, like you'd go on like one ride,
[6:53] Speaker 2: get a dinner, and like someone else's parents would pick
[6:55] Speaker 2: you up. Right now, I probably go twice a year.
[6:58] Speaker 3: Twice year.
[6:58] Speaker 2: I take like my nisse and nephews in the summer
[7:01] Speaker 2: usually and then probably have like one other time where
[7:04] Speaker 2: I go with like there'll be some other occasion.
[7:07] Speaker 3: Right, so you're not like an annual pass holder. How
[7:10] Speaker 3: much does that cost? That must be nine thousands to.
[7:12] Speaker 2: Get rid of it for a little bit, So I
[7:14] Speaker 2: don't know, but I just went this shirt is actually
[7:16] Speaker 2: from World. Oh my god, I don't often. I've only
[7:20] Speaker 2: been like twice because why go there when you grow
[7:23] Speaker 2: up by land? And I actually was like, I do
[7:26] Speaker 2: kind of want merch here because I also love holiday merch.
[7:29] Speaker 2: But I ended up refusing to get anything that said
[7:31] Speaker 2: World because it felt like it was confusing, confusing for
[7:34] Speaker 2: my personal brand.
[7:36] Speaker 3: Yeah, it raises too many questions and suddenly people are
[7:38] Speaker 3: asking you all the time.
[7:39] Speaker 2: Like why were you there? That's not where you live.
[7:44] Speaker 3: People get very violent serious about that type of thing.
[7:47] Speaker 3: You wouldn't have been able to leave the house.
[7:48] Speaker 2: No, And I just can't handle that right now.
[7:50] Speaker 3: You have enough problem.
[7:52] Speaker 2: I can't be taking that on. I have to buy
[7:54] Speaker 2: up all the VIP tickets for a little house in
[7:56] Speaker 2: the fray.
[7:59] Speaker 3: Oh god, that was disappointing to see. I don't know
[8:02] Speaker 3: if it was disappointing for me or just disappointing to
[8:04] Speaker 3: see people paying that much money for a VIP that's tough.
[8:07] Speaker 3: A lot of the cast is gone, so what are
[8:10] Speaker 3: you paying for? It's tough. And the whole I don't
[8:14] Speaker 3: know if you're aware of this, but they blew up
[8:16] Speaker 3: the whole set of Little House on the Prairie.
[8:18] Speaker 2: Oh that's devastating.
[8:19] Speaker 3: So you're not even getting to see the set. You're
[8:20] Speaker 3: just driving to Santa Clarita for no reason.
[8:23] Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.
[8:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess how many reasons are there to drive
[8:27] Speaker 3: to Santa Clarita, right, My apologies to Santa Clarita. But
[8:31] Speaker 3: I think one of.
[8:31] Speaker 2: Us Red Lobsters?
[8:33] Speaker 3: Is that true?
[8:34] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[8:34] Speaker 3: Oh, have you been to it?
[8:35] Speaker 2: Uh?
[8:36] Speaker 3: Huh? Are you a big Red Lobster fan? Yeah, I've
[8:40] Speaker 3: never been to Red Lobster. Where'd you grow up in Utah?
[8:43] Speaker 2: Did you have them at all?
[8:44] Speaker 3: There were? I think there was like one, Yeah, And
[8:47] Speaker 3: for whatever reason, we just never got to go to
[8:49] Speaker 3: Red Lobster.
[8:49] Speaker 2: It was the It was both my sister and I's
[8:52] Speaker 2: pick for birthday dinner. No, we felt very fancy.
[8:55] Speaker 3: That feels like a very birthday dinner type place.
[8:57] Speaker 2: We'd get like crab legs for the table, which, oh,
[9:00] Speaker 2: sort of scad. Oh that's like you're an eight year
[9:03] Speaker 2: old trying to get gout. You know, you're you feel
[9:05] Speaker 2: very regal. And then and then I would always get
[9:07] Speaker 2: popcorn trip, which is just a chicken tender. You know,
[9:10] Speaker 2: it's just a chicken nugget.
[9:11] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's probably I guess it's the fancy
[9:14] Speaker 3: chicken nuggets. I've never really thought about.
[9:16] Speaker 2: It, and that I think is a perfect window into
[9:18] Speaker 2: my nine year old self, which is like, huh, have
[9:21] Speaker 2: you met me? I have quite an advanced palate for
[9:24] Speaker 2: my age, But I would like it to be deep
[9:25] Speaker 2: fried and I'm gonna dunk it.
[9:27] Speaker 3: And ketchup and they have the biscuits that everyone goes
[9:30] Speaker 3: crazy for. Yes, I feel like that the biscuit will
[9:34] Speaker 3: never happen for me. How could it?
[9:37] Speaker 2: Oh? I want it to, though I don't know if that.
[9:39] Speaker 3: You know, I feel like, if you like grew up
[9:41] Speaker 3: eating them, it's probably like the taste is built in
[9:44] Speaker 3: for you. But I think approaching that as an adult
[9:46] Speaker 3: might be difficult.
[9:48] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[9:49] Speaker 3: Ches biscuits.
[9:50] Speaker 2: They're quite they're quite objectively good.
[9:52] Speaker 3: I think what would you compare it to?
[9:57] Speaker 2: Let's see, are you a scone person at all? Like
[9:59] Speaker 2: I do like a because it has almost more. I
[10:02] Speaker 2: would stay closer to like when you get a really
[10:04] Speaker 2: good cheddar and chrive scone, okay, versus like a country
[10:09] Speaker 2: biscuit that you're covering in gravy. Right, it has like
[10:11] Speaker 2: a thicker.
[10:12] Speaker 3: You will be choking.
[10:14] Speaker 2: It's dense, but it's got like a nice salty melt
[10:17] Speaker 2: point right because it's still a ton of butter. And
[10:20] Speaker 2: I don't know if they still do this, but they
[10:21] Speaker 2: used to sell like at home kits where you could
[10:24] Speaker 2: make them.
[10:25] Speaker 3: Oh did you ever try that?
[10:26] Speaker 2: My mom did and they it felt accurate, So that
[10:29] Speaker 2: was your journey.
[10:30] Speaker 3: That feels bad for the company. Maybe that's why they're
[10:32] Speaker 3: in such financial trouble. They gave away the one thing
[10:34] Speaker 3: that everyone yes went there for.
[10:36] Speaker 2: And they were letting us have way too much shrimp.
[10:39] Speaker 3: That's right. That was like a real thing.
[10:41] Speaker 2: Yeah. My husband several times went with like trying to
[10:45] Speaker 2: join the centennial club, which is having more than one
[10:47] Speaker 2: hundred shrimp.
[10:48] Speaker 3: At a time. Yeah, putting one hundred shrimp in your stomach.
[10:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, he succeeded multiple times. But you have to pick
[10:55] Speaker 2: them just that way. I mean, I've stopped trying to
[10:59] Speaker 2: mask that math.
[11:00] Speaker 3: You know, were they like regular sized shrimp.
[11:02] Speaker 2: Sometimes they're small or you know, he'd like you can
[11:04] Speaker 2: pick the preparation, so he'd be doing like scampy or chill,
[11:09] Speaker 2: like just like cocktail shrimp. I don't know, but it's
[11:12] Speaker 2: still one hundred srimp.
[11:13] Speaker 3: That still must be like five pounds of food at least. Yeah.
[11:16] Speaker 2: And also that's really an awareness of like that's one
[11:19] Speaker 2: hundred individual animals.
[11:21] Speaker 3: Yeah, which is that's an entire population.
[11:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a village.
[11:25] Speaker 3: So and that was like an endless shrimp thing.
[11:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, and that they did that. It was like a
[11:30] Speaker 2: promotion they would do for like one weekend and then
[11:32] Speaker 2: it was popular, say let it grow, and that's financial
[11:35] Speaker 2: ruin right then. I think there are a few years
[11:37] Speaker 2: where you could always get endless shrimp or something.
[11:39] Speaker 3: So the company was self sabotage in the way they
[11:42] Speaker 3: had hit the self destruct button and said let's just tank.
[11:46] Speaker 2: You know, and not to time sampus again. But it
[11:47] Speaker 2: should be like Christmas. That's what keeps it special.
[11:49] Speaker 3: Oh right, I mean that's well, as a business owner,
[11:52] Speaker 3: you think, well, if we're giving away too much of
[11:54] Speaker 3: a thing, maybe we should only do that for a
[11:56] Speaker 3: short period. Yeah, that's how business.
[11:58] Speaker 2: Works, and then people will be so excited they'll make
[12:00] Speaker 2: it an annual trip.
[12:02] Speaker 3: Rather than well, we can get that anytime, right.
[12:04] Speaker 2: And now I'm never going to go because it's.
[12:05] Speaker 3: Special, granted, not knowing that we have a limited time
[12:09] Speaker 3: with the ones we love. That's right, that kind of
[12:11] Speaker 3: that's right now. They're probably by the time this comes out,
[12:13] Speaker 3: they may be fully out of business. I don't know.
[12:16] Speaker 2: I don't know either.
[12:17] Speaker 3: The last headline I saw it was they've been ruined
[12:19] Speaker 3: by endless Shrimp.
[12:20] Speaker 2: But I think they're in a rebrand where they are
[12:23] Speaker 2: pivoting towards that style of shrimp eating that's more like
[12:26] Speaker 2: a low country boil or like louisyan or you can
[12:30] Speaker 2: get like the bag of shrimp.
[12:31] Speaker 3: Have you ever done one of those across the table?
[12:34] Speaker 3: It's a sloppy mess. Yeah, So they're gonna have to
[12:36] Speaker 3: kind of redesign the restaurant, and I.
[12:38] Speaker 2: Think they've reduced their menu, which any anyone who's watched
[12:41] Speaker 2: you know, kitchen.
[12:43] Speaker 3: What restaurant impossible? One knows kitchen.
[12:46] Speaker 2: Hell, if the menu is too large, you're doomed. Right,
[12:48] Speaker 2: Although Cheeseak Factory is here thumbing, they've.
[12:51] Speaker 3: Really kind of said no that's not.
[12:53] Speaker 2: True, not true. For us, we are the exception that
[12:55] Speaker 2: proves the rule.
[12:56] Speaker 3: Novella. Yes, yeah, that's a one place that that kind
[13:01] Speaker 3: of has worked for whatever reason, I don't. And then
[13:04] Speaker 3: every other place, if you see more than fifty items
[13:07] Speaker 3: on a menu, you're saying, I gotta get.
[13:10] Speaker 2: Out of call Robert irvmine and I gotta get out
[13:13] Speaker 2: of here.
[13:14] Speaker 3: Robert Irvine I've had I've talked about him on the
[13:16] Speaker 3: show before because he has a new protein bar. How
[13:19] Speaker 3: is this revolting? Oh, they're discussed hair bars. They're my
[13:25] Speaker 3: boyfriend bought some at Costco. He overbought, and now they're
[13:29] Speaker 3: just sitting in our cupboard waiting for the next pandemic.
[13:31] Speaker 3: Terrible and I hate the thing so much. Too sweet.
[13:37] Speaker 2: I can't have.
[13:37] Speaker 3: Something that sweet in the morning. It's a real sugar
[13:39] Speaker 3: alcohol tasting bar. But they should have got He should
[13:42] Speaker 3: start going to giant corporations to rescue them rather than
[13:45] Speaker 3: these small businesses that he's picking on.
[13:47] Speaker 2: Right, it would be great to watch him save red Lobster.
[13:50] Speaker 2: Oh my god, I would watch that as a mini series.
[13:53] Speaker 3: You know, Wow, that could be a good limited series.
[13:56] Speaker 3: That's who lose next, Big Fat checked Red Lobster, right,
[14:00] Speaker 3: And that's also they have a kind of a at
[14:02] Speaker 3: least the name isn't like one of these things where
[14:04] Speaker 3: that you know, I've been complaining about Hampton and trying
[14:06] Speaker 3: to run from their name. Recently they've rebranded as Hampton
[14:10] Speaker 3: Get out of here. You can't rebrand as Lobster. No,
[14:13] Speaker 3: that becomes confused. Yeah, and Red doesn't tell you enough,
[14:18] Speaker 3: so then it's like, yeah, you'd have to do maybe
[14:20] Speaker 3: add a word red Lobster Express.
[14:23] Speaker 2: Right. Oh my gosh, can you imagine having like a
[14:26] Speaker 2: mini biscuit and shrimp before you got on a plane
[14:28] Speaker 2: like at Chili's too.
[14:31] Speaker 3: Just a plane full of extremely sick people speaking of
[14:38] Speaker 3: business renovations. And this is something else that people want
[14:41] Speaker 3: to want me to stop talking about, is have you
[14:42] Speaker 3: ever heard of Tabitha's Takeover? Get into this show?
[14:46] Speaker 2: Yes, remind the name is immediately because Tabitha is such
[14:50] Speaker 2: a unique name. Did you watch ever watch Passions? Oh?
[14:54] Speaker 3: I love whatever this is?
[14:55] Speaker 2: No, it was it was a soap opera like when
[14:58] Speaker 2: we were children, like lived shorter.
[15:01] Speaker 3: Lived okay, I mean compared to like a soap opera
[15:03] Speaker 3: that goes ninety.
[15:04] Speaker 2: Years exactly exactly. I believe there was a witch named
[15:08] Speaker 2: Tabitha on it or something.
[15:10] Speaker 3: It was.
[15:10] Speaker 2: It was wild. It would be the kind of thing
[15:11] Speaker 2: where you like were watching your Saturday Morning like or
[15:14] Speaker 2: you're like Tuesday morning Summer brainless TeV before you like
[15:18] Speaker 2: had to go to pool camp or something, and sometimes
[15:25] Speaker 2: you'd get all the way through the run up where
[15:26] Speaker 2: you'd get to like, now the only thing now I'm
[15:28] Speaker 2: into soap opera.
[15:30] Speaker 3: Right Anyway, Tabitha was soap operas have a witch.
[15:34] Speaker 2: That's what made Passions.
[15:35] Speaker 3: So that's what made it such a failure. Failure, but Passions, Oh,
[15:42] Speaker 3: Tabitha Takeover is not a soap opera. Yeah, it mean
[15:46] Speaker 3: kind of the dramas.
[15:47] Speaker 2: Is it like a TLC Ish program?
[15:49] Speaker 3: Yeah, it was on Bravo. It's this Australian woman and
[15:52] Speaker 3: she says, I'm tough, I'm talented, I'm taking over.
[15:55] Speaker 2: Was it Salons?
[15:56] Speaker 3: Initially it was Salons Tabitha's Salon Takeover that was the
[16:00] Speaker 3: successful series or relatively sure. Then she moved into Tabitha's
[16:04] Speaker 3: Takeover and you know, I just watched one where she
[16:07] Speaker 3: takes over a yogurt shop and it was just simply
[16:09] Speaker 3: not as compelling. Yeah, you want to watch her yelling
[16:11] Speaker 3: at hairdressers.
[16:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, I can picture her hair now.
[16:14] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's a very two thousand and eight like blondelde,
[16:21] Speaker 3: not spiky, kind of a dramatic bang. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
[16:25] Speaker 3: it's just a phenomenal show and I just love watching it.
[16:28] Speaker 3: But where did she go? Oh? I know what she did?
[16:32] Speaker 3: She started. She's now kind of a self help guru.
[16:34] Speaker 3: She has something called bitch Camp, which she teaches.
[16:37] Speaker 2: How to go after pool camp. Does she want us
[16:41] Speaker 2: to be more or less bitch? That's what I need
[16:43] Speaker 2: to know.
[16:44] Speaker 3: She wants you to be more. She wants you to
[16:46] Speaker 3: be much much more. And I hope that she's doing. Okay,
[16:49] Speaker 3: I think maybe I should reboot the show. I'm sure
[16:51] Speaker 3: there are plenty of salons that still need help.
[16:54] Speaker 2: Also, just your takeover of Tabitha's takeover.
[16:57] Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Tabitha has taken over. This is the new
[17:00] Speaker 3: category of reality shows. Somebody who comes in and revamps
[17:03] Speaker 3: failed reality.
[17:04] Speaker 2: Shows, like someone should have been able to come. I mean,
[17:07] Speaker 2: we'll see how it goes. But with like vander Pump
[17:09] Speaker 2: and them, or like they can't get a new rony
[17:11] Speaker 2: cast figured out, Like someone gets to come in and
[17:14] Speaker 2: be like the Robert Irvine of like the menu's too many.
[17:17] Speaker 2: It's too many, friend of I don't care about. Right,
[17:19] Speaker 2: You need to start with some relationships that are real
[17:22] Speaker 2: and build out from there. Everyone can't be purely cast.
[17:24] Speaker 2: Some of this has to be organic.
[17:26] Speaker 3: We know we no no longer know what they're fighting about.
[17:28] Speaker 3: This is a fight about a fight about a fight
[17:29] Speaker 3: about a fight. Yes, it could be kind of Project
[17:32] Speaker 3: green Light meets Tabitha's Takeover and we just go into
[17:36] Speaker 3: Bravo et cetera TLC.
[17:38] Speaker 2: And one of the biggest notes that I would give
[17:39] Speaker 2: the Bravo shows is you are not allowed to have
[17:43] Speaker 2: drama from outside blog podcast sources.
[17:48] Speaker 3: What about do you watch Salt Lake City?
[17:50] Speaker 2: Of course?
[17:50] Speaker 3: Yeah, what about like the TikTok or tweet because there's
[17:54] Speaker 3: been some explosive drama about the tiktoks and tweets.
[17:57] Speaker 2: Well really just Merediths reaction to the TikTok that then,
[18:00] Speaker 2: are we going to see footage from this plane.
[18:03] Speaker 3: The pl where Todd was looking at the other gal
[18:05] Speaker 3: on his iPad? How did I forget that's all they're
[18:09] Speaker 3: talking about.
[18:10] Speaker 2: It's crazy or at least that actually how was there.
[18:13] Speaker 3: No, you bring up such a good point. There should
[18:16] Speaker 3: there's footage of everything else that's ever happened on a
[18:18] Speaker 3: plane since twenty ten. Yes, how was that not filmed
[18:22] Speaker 3: by somebody on that plane? Brittany not filming it?
[18:25] Speaker 2: So true? Well, apparently she was crying into her hair.
[18:29] Speaker 2: Her hair was wet with tears. Here's evidence that we
[18:31] Speaker 2: have sopping West sopping wet with tears.
[18:35] Speaker 3: She had to towel off after this flush.
[18:37] Speaker 2: Here's the person sorry to just arail into Salt Lake
[18:39] Speaker 2: City for a second.
[18:40] Speaker 3: Don't apologize, but I mean the.
[18:43] Speaker 2: Person that I do trust in that situation is Mary,
[18:45] Speaker 2: cause because she has no reason to lie or fabricate,
[18:50] Speaker 2: you know, like I understand why Meredith would downplay and
[18:52] Speaker 2: why Lisa has chosen to stick with Meredith to downplay.
[18:55] Speaker 2: Heather was a sleep for some of it, so she's
[18:57] Speaker 2: an unreliable nearby. Plus she's like always in the pocket
[19:00] Speaker 2: of moving story right right, Whitney will fall in line
[19:04] Speaker 2: with whatever happens there. Britney sobbed to tears into her hair.
[19:08] Speaker 2: Angie is like riding high but doesn't really need the drama,
[19:12] Speaker 2: only wants us to love grease. Mary has no reason
[19:16] Speaker 2: to lie. So the fact that she has said, Meredith,
[19:19] Speaker 2: it was out of hand, and why won't you just
[19:21] Speaker 2: admit it was out of hand and we can move forward.
[19:23] Speaker 2: I'm like, it was out of hand, like it was.
[19:26] Speaker 2: Mary to me is the like the ding in the
[19:28] Speaker 2: scales that makes me go it was.
[19:30] Speaker 3: This is the thing about Mary Cosby is she has
[19:34] Speaker 3: been brought into the show and she does not care
[19:36] Speaker 3: about being involved in the show. Yes, so it's like
[19:38] Speaker 3: she's she's essentially the one normal person.
[19:42] Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, she couldn't be further from normal. But
[19:44] Speaker 2: she is objective because she doesn't.
[19:46] Speaker 3: Care, because she refuses to listen to producer.
[19:49] Speaker 2: Yes, and she's not interested in machinations or like let's
[19:51] Speaker 2: build a storyline or can you help move this forward?
[19:54] Speaker 3: She's just like no, yeah, she like often i'll watch her,
[19:57] Speaker 3: it's like she's not even aware that it's a reality.
[20:00] Speaker 3: She'll be like, she's not. She's like, why are they
[20:02] Speaker 3: fighting with each other? Why are you fighting with each other?
[20:04] Speaker 3: You should apologize? But she's thinking of them as human
[20:07] Speaker 3: beings rather than character Right, it's so fascinating. That's such
[20:10] Speaker 3: a good point. But who how small was this plane
[20:13] Speaker 3: that no one was filming it. There was a simply
[20:15] Speaker 3: there was a gay flight.
[20:16] Speaker 2: Attendant, and I'm thinking, are they holding it to the reunion?
[20:20] Speaker 3: Oh? Interesting? But what oh yeah, that's a great How
[20:26] Speaker 3: did it not.
[20:27] Speaker 2: Leak unless they bought out the footage? And they're like,
[20:30] Speaker 2: this is part of the rule is we will pay
[20:32] Speaker 2: you this amount of money for the footage, but if
[20:35] Speaker 2: it leaks, we you only get it if we make
[20:37] Speaker 2: it to the reunion with it being sealed.
[20:39] Speaker 3: Right, Andy Cohen kills you Yeah, wow, I bet everyone
[20:42] Speaker 3: on the plane had to sign an NDA well.
[20:45] Speaker 2: And also the production must have bought out first class entirely.
[20:48] Speaker 2: Oh interesting, And then you have that little curtain.
[20:50] Speaker 3: Here's my question. We frequently see them on these planes
[20:53] Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, they're not even in business class.
[20:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like what was this flight coming home from?
[21:00] Speaker 2: It was like, oh, from the from the island, the
[21:03] Speaker 2: Lillys Playground or whatever. The frink like it looked like
[21:06] Speaker 2: a sette to go on the yacht okay, right, And
[21:09] Speaker 2: it was like and this is an SLC recap podcast, right,
[21:12] Speaker 2: but you recap episodes from six weeks ago.
[21:15] Speaker 3: That you're basically describing. My patreon, I do talk about
[21:21] Speaker 3: this thing constantly. I mean, what I'm going I'm going
[21:25] Speaker 3: to Utah for for Christmas, and I'm going to I'm
[21:28] Speaker 3: going to visit Uh. Something I've learned recently is the
[21:30] Speaker 3: angiut sort of a Nepo baby. Her father owns this
[21:34] Speaker 3: chain of Utah famous Utah hamburger restaurants called Crown Burger.
[21:38] Speaker 3: So I'll probably make a stop there. I'm going to
[21:40] Speaker 3: go to Mary's Church beauty. Oh, I mean, I go
[21:43] Speaker 3: there every single time I'm there. I've been there. The
[21:47] Speaker 3: only time I haven't been there was my most recent
[21:49] Speaker 3: time because I went to jay Z Styles, which is
[21:52] Speaker 3: from the other show, Yeah, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
[21:55] Speaker 3: And I can't go to two different beauty places in
[21:57] Speaker 3: one trick.
[21:57] Speaker 2: And will you be cruising around with a dirty soda?
[22:00] Speaker 3: You know what? I try. I've been to Swig twice
[22:03] Speaker 3: and I regret it every time.
[22:04] Speaker 2: I just can't imagine drinking doctor pepper with coffee meat
[22:08] Speaker 2: in it. I just can't imagine.
[22:10] Speaker 3: Well, you can't imagine until you are, I know, and
[22:13] Speaker 3: then everything changes.
[22:15] Speaker 2: Now.
[22:15] Speaker 3: I didn't do that. I tried. I've tried other ones
[22:17] Speaker 3: that don't have I'm not going to try the cream
[22:19] Speaker 3: in a in the Doctor Pepper. But every time I go,
[22:23] Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I'll try the more controlled option and
[22:25] Speaker 3: it's still disgusting, revolting drink. But it's extremely popular. They're
[22:32] Speaker 3: on every corner there. Wow, And so maybe I'll try again.
[22:35] Speaker 3: I don't know. My boyfriend hasn't been there yet, so
[22:38] Speaker 3: maybe we'll go through swig once.
[22:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, you got you gotta do it.
[22:44] Speaker 3: Have you been to your towel?
[22:45] Speaker 2: Yes?
[22:45] Speaker 3: Okay, have you win?
[22:47] Speaker 2: I've been a bunch of times. Like I've not done
[22:50] Speaker 2: a lot of like Salt Lake City like city time,
[22:53] Speaker 2: Like we went on a ski trip there growing up,
[22:56] Speaker 2: and then I've gone to like the National Park.
[23:00] Speaker 3: Since Okay, so nothing really since the shows have become famous. No, okay, yeah,
[23:05] Speaker 3: so now that that don't have to be a whole tour,
[23:07] Speaker 3: I don't.
[23:07] Speaker 2: Have to be a whole trip.
[23:08] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[23:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder how.
[23:09] Speaker 3: Much longer Salt Lake City Housewives will last.
[23:13] Speaker 2: I feel like SLC is the crown jewel.
[23:14] Speaker 3: Right, yes, but it's like, how long does something like
[23:17] Speaker 3: this go?
[23:18] Speaker 2: Has like two more good seasons?
[23:20] Speaker 3: Well that's rough to hear two.
[23:22] Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe not. It's just like eventually people tire.
[23:26] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I always say, bring Monica and Linda back. Oh,
[23:30] Speaker 3: and then you've got I mean that will revive the
[23:32] Speaker 3: show for five seasons. Yeah, true, but I think they
[23:34] Speaker 3: will also.
[23:35] Speaker 2: Do you think we'll ever just merge ourt?
[23:38] Speaker 3: Oh, at some point one of the Secret Lives gals
[23:42] Speaker 3: is going to come over. Wow, it'll probably be Whitney Levitt. Yeah,
[23:45] Speaker 3: she's done with I mean, she is soaring.
[23:47] Speaker 2: I loved her honesty of like, I am here because
[23:51] Speaker 2: I can be on Dancing with the Stars. I was like, God,
[23:53] Speaker 2: bless it. This is a type of character I've never
[23:55] Speaker 2: seen on reality TV.
[23:57] Speaker 3: I am using all of you, and I'm open about it.
[24:00] Speaker 3: But this is a sisterhood, and I do.
[24:02] Speaker 2: Wish we could be friendlier, but I'm not that worried
[24:04] Speaker 2: about it. And it's working for Oh my gosh, it's brilliant.
[24:08] Speaker 3: She's going to be in a Hulu show at some point, she's.
[24:10] Speaker 2: Getting I'll get tickets to the Oscars. I golly, I
[24:16] Speaker 2: love it.
[24:16] Speaker 3: She's a talented gal and we love her.
[24:18] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[24:19] Speaker 3: Well, speaking of things I don't love. Look, I was
[24:23] Speaker 3: excited to have you here today.
[24:25] Speaker 2: Thank you.
[24:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Jessica we'll come by, we'll have an
[24:27] Speaker 3: incredible time, and then we'll just you know, go on
[24:31] Speaker 3: with our lives. Yeah, the podcast is called I said
[24:34] Speaker 3: no gifts, right, and you waltzed in today whistling, holding
[24:38] Speaker 3: a little gift bag over your shoulder, and I thought, well,
[24:41] Speaker 3: now here comes trouble.
[24:42] Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's the holiday season, and you know,
[24:46] Speaker 2: my mother raised me right that you don't ever show
[24:48] Speaker 2: up without a host. Get so you know, maybe if
[24:53] Speaker 2: I was booked at a different time of year, I would
[24:54] Speaker 2: have obeyed it, Okay, but I just simply couldn't come
[24:58] Speaker 2: in empty, not to your beautiful study right now in
[25:02] Speaker 2: this the festive time of year.
[25:03] Speaker 3: None of that makes any sense to me. But I
[25:06] Speaker 3: mean the damage is done. Should we open it here
[25:09] Speaker 3: on the podcast?
[25:10] Speaker 2: I mean I'd love it if you would. Okay, fine,
[25:13] Speaker 2: you know, just you know, and I like to you know,
[25:15] Speaker 2: they say, don't don't make more work for a host,
[25:18] Speaker 2: So sometimes rude to bring flowers and now they must
[25:21] Speaker 2: fetch a vase or that before. Don't make work for
[25:24] Speaker 2: the host. Don't bring something that now needs a platter, right,
[25:27] Speaker 2: bring a bottle of wine, bring.
[25:30] Speaker 3: You know, whatever's going to happen.
[25:32] Speaker 2: And whatever's going to happen in here? Oh if we.
[25:36] Speaker 3: Haven't had tissue in a while. Oh oops, okay, okay,
[25:47] Speaker 3: reaching there, it seems like there are two things.
[25:49] Speaker 2: There's two well ones, like I would say, you know thin,
[25:52] Speaker 2: think about think about the festive season. One is a
[25:55] Speaker 2: gift and one's more of a stocking stuff.
[25:56] Speaker 3: Which one should take out first?
[25:57] Speaker 2: I think maybe the gift the thing that you can
[25:59] Speaker 2: really get your.
[26:00] Speaker 3: We'll take both. Yeah, perfect, let's just ignore you. I'll
[26:03] Speaker 3: ask for your advice that they ignore.
[26:07] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[26:07] Speaker 3: Oh I love this. I love Uh it's a juice
[26:12] Speaker 3: and citrus squeeze. Excuse me, Yeah, I've I've received one
[26:17] Speaker 3: of these before from Paul fig Wow. So you really
[26:21] Speaker 3: you two are twins?
[26:22] Speaker 2: Now, wow, that's an honor.
[26:25] Speaker 3: And you know, I used to do more videos of
[26:28] Speaker 3: demonstrating how to use the gifts. And I demonstrated and
[26:32] Speaker 3: everyone said, well, have you ever used one of these before?
[26:35] Speaker 3: You're doing it so wrong apparently, like and I've already
[26:38] Speaker 3: forgotten the way to do it, but like, how would
[26:41] Speaker 3: you do this?
[26:43] Speaker 2: Okay, so I would, uh, you know, cut the piece
[26:47] Speaker 2: of citrus in half. Yes, and then and this one's
[26:51] Speaker 2: really good for limes. This is very lime size, and
[26:53] Speaker 2: you'll remember because it's green.
[26:55] Speaker 3: Yes, of course I need.
[26:56] Speaker 2: Don't try to put a grape fruit in here, okay,
[26:58] Speaker 2: This one's mostly for limes or a small lemon.
[27:00] Speaker 3: Trying to put a grape fruit in this is mostly.
[27:02] Speaker 2: For limes, okay. And then I would put the lime
[27:05] Speaker 2: cut side down over these holes. It's little butt facing
[27:09] Speaker 2: up and then you press down right, and it, I mean.
[27:15] Speaker 3: It is.
[27:16] Speaker 2: It's such a game changer to have a citrus squeezer.
[27:19] Speaker 2: I'm sorry that this is doubling up, but I mean,
[27:21] Speaker 2: I know he's a martini man and it is essential
[27:25] Speaker 2: for any home bar, but also just cooking as well.
[27:28] Speaker 2: And anytime that I think, oh I don't want to
[27:30] Speaker 2: dirty it, let me not get it out right now,
[27:33] Speaker 2: it only calls for a squeeze of lemon. I'm always like,
[27:36] Speaker 2: what the hell am I doing? I'm getting way less
[27:39] Speaker 2: juice every time I use my.
[27:40] Speaker 3: Dumb hands, And why else do you own it? Well?
[27:43] Speaker 2: Exactly, And you know I used I watched a lot
[27:46] Speaker 2: of like Cooking Network Food Network growing up, and Alton
[27:49] Speaker 2: Brown used to rage against the single purpose tool. But
[27:55] Speaker 2: I feel like this doesn't apply because the difference of
[27:59] Speaker 2: the juice yield is massive.
[28:01] Speaker 3: I also think, like, I don't know, I feel like
[28:05] Speaker 3: this doesn't really get that dirty.
[28:06] Speaker 2: No, no, no, And it's just like a city. You
[28:09] Speaker 2: could literally just wipe it and put it back because
[28:11] Speaker 2: it's got all that acid.
[28:12] Speaker 3: I just assume it'll just burn away any bacteria.
[28:14] Speaker 2: And it's what we use for savich exactly.
[28:16] Speaker 3: Wow, great points. Yeah, tell at and Brown, how often
[28:21] Speaker 3: are you using a citrus to make up food or drink?
[28:24] Speaker 2: I would say a lot, Like you know, you do
[28:27] Speaker 2: like a little. And then also the seeds can't get through,
[28:29] Speaker 2: So if you want to brighten up a dish with
[28:31] Speaker 2: a little lemon across.
[28:32] Speaker 3: The top, uh huh. I have a couple of trees
[28:35] Speaker 3: in my backyard and I've been in my house for
[28:37] Speaker 3: five years and the orange tree has finally got fruit
[28:40] Speaker 3: on it, and I'm losing my mind. Yeah, eating, And
[28:44] Speaker 3: I've decided my favorite fruit is a blood.
[28:45] Speaker 2: Orange, and so now that's a lovely choice. You might
[28:48] Speaker 2: be able to fit a blood orange in there.
[28:49] Speaker 3: Yes, these are and this is about the size.
[28:51] Speaker 2: Oh.
[28:52] Speaker 3: And I will say that the way you demonstrated you
[28:54] Speaker 3: were doing it correctly, and I was doing it wrong,
[28:57] Speaker 3: did you I was putting it in, uh with the fruit? Yeah,
[29:02] Speaker 3: because you know it's like.
[29:03] Speaker 2: It looks like it looks like it's a cubby. Yeah.
[29:06] Speaker 3: They need to re shape these.
[29:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more like I'm going to use force to
[29:11] Speaker 2: make it fit. It's not going to.
[29:13] Speaker 3: Fit right, And I stand by the way I chose
[29:17] Speaker 3: to use it. How was I supposed to know?
[29:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's confused.
[29:20] Speaker 3: Was humiliated on the line.
[29:23] Speaker 2: You don't put anything in that top there, and yet
[29:25] Speaker 2: it looks like it's meant to ho right.
[29:26] Speaker 3: The top is like an ice cream scoop. This could
[29:32] Speaker 3: easily scoop an ice cream. Why do they have that?
[29:34] Speaker 3: They should just block this off. They should have a
[29:36] Speaker 3: little cover over the tope.
[29:37] Speaker 2: They have a piece of caution tape at least.
[29:39] Speaker 3: Yeah, do not use that.
[29:41] Speaker 2: You don't get confused.
[29:42] Speaker 3: I mean this could be used as a spoon, a
[29:44] Speaker 3: gravy ladle, all kinds of things. So maybe that that's
[29:49] Speaker 3: I feel like there has to be some purpose for this.
[29:52] Speaker 2: It could just be filled.
[29:53] Speaker 3: That could simply be filled. And but maybe I bet
[29:56] Speaker 3: there are worse ones than this, and they fill them
[29:58] Speaker 3: in like a cheaper But this is more delicate class.
[30:01] Speaker 2: And they want you to. They're not using any unnecessary metals,
[30:05] Speaker 2: you know.
[30:05] Speaker 3: Right right, it's very efficient efficient. Where did this come from?
[30:10] Speaker 2: This came from the general store across the street from
[30:12] Speaker 2: where I live. I thought that place will have something fun,
[30:15] Speaker 2: and I popped around and there were lots of like
[30:18] Speaker 2: dumb things, and then ultimately I was like, I mean,
[30:21] Speaker 2: I'd actually use a citrus squeezer.
[30:23] Speaker 3: General stores are a confusing concept. Yes, they're kind of
[30:28] Speaker 3: at this point like what is it to go buy
[30:31] Speaker 3: like a like gifts for guys.
[30:34] Speaker 2: So I think this one is a little bit more
[30:37] Speaker 2: operating like a convenience store. I would say it has
[30:41] Speaker 2: like beer, wine, alcohol snacks. It it's almost like a
[30:45] Speaker 2: fancy seven to eleven that also has like incense and
[30:48] Speaker 2: candles and citru squeezers, right, and funny cards and like
[30:52] Speaker 2: and then it's attached to a pizza place. So it's
[30:54] Speaker 2: got a little bit more of a function. I remember
[30:56] Speaker 2: when it was like first coming in, it was like
[30:58] Speaker 2: this neighborhood does not need a twee pendleton blanket and
[31:01] Speaker 2: wood pencils, but it does have like food and not
[31:06] Speaker 2: only and not like tweet food, and how you can
[31:08] Speaker 2: get like talkies there.
[31:09] Speaker 3: I've seen this place before. Yeah, I've been. Yeah, I
[31:12] Speaker 3: know the pizza place it's attached to. I'm not going
[31:14] Speaker 3: to docs you, but I'm familiar with this place and
[31:17] Speaker 3: I have not visited it yet. It's nice, but I
[31:19] Speaker 3: was attempted to go in and get like a soda
[31:21] Speaker 3: or something.
[31:22] Speaker 2: You could get a soda. Right.
[31:23] Speaker 3: There's a general store in Silver Lake. That's a little
[31:26] Speaker 3: bit more of what you're describing. Yes, every time I
[31:28] Speaker 3: go in there, I just think, well, how are you
[31:29] Speaker 3: in businesses? Who's buying any of this?
[31:32] Speaker 2: I think that about the Strip and Atwater, where I
[31:34] Speaker 2: feel like there are four and I'm like, how are
[31:35] Speaker 2: you all sustained?
[31:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, there are a lot of I think it's rich children.
[31:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I was just gonna say it's their
[31:43] Speaker 2: parents are successful and that's what they do.
[31:45] Speaker 3: It's like, now I'll open a place where like you
[31:47] Speaker 3: can buy like a leather bookmark. Uh huh yeah right.
[31:53] Speaker 3: I just like, and you never see anybody in them.
[31:56] Speaker 3: I have no I know exactly what's happening and that
[31:58] Speaker 3: everything will be way too expensive. So I just and
[32:02] Speaker 3: there are at least four in at Water, And I.
[32:04] Speaker 2: Also feel like I always feel like it's too personal somehow,
[32:08] Speaker 2: like that's the type of store that I feel like
[32:09] Speaker 2: I need to say goodbye when I leave.
[32:12] Speaker 3: Because that's the sort of store where I have to
[32:14] Speaker 3: lie yeh, I'm like I'll be back.
[32:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, oh thank you? Oh good you do have? Okay? Great?
[32:19] Speaker 2: Good to know? Okay, good to know.
[32:23] Speaker 3: And I always feel embarrassed that I might like even
[32:25] Speaker 3: looking at the price tag because I know they're looking
[32:26] Speaker 3: at me and they know that I'm going to think
[32:29] Speaker 3: it's too expensive. I hate those places. I do like
[32:32] Speaker 3: them for like cards, Okay, when you want to spend
[32:35] Speaker 3: nine dollars in a card, yeah, I guess that's you
[32:38] Speaker 3: know where I like to get a card. Trader Joe's
[32:41] Speaker 3: me too.
[32:42] Speaker 2: I love their cards. But also sometimes I feel like
[32:46] Speaker 2: they'll have like the main ones, and then you'll be like,
[32:49] Speaker 2: wait a second, you're missing like a whole main category,
[32:52] Speaker 2: like what funerals they'll have that, but they like won't
[32:56] Speaker 2: have like thank you or something oh right, which I
[32:59] Speaker 2: guess like I don't know. I think you should always
[33:01] Speaker 2: have like birthday, thank you, getting well, get well, thinking
[33:05] Speaker 2: of you, congratulations.
[33:07] Speaker 3: Right, I feel like you should never have they should
[33:10] Speaker 3: all be completely blownd. Just put an image on the
[33:13] Speaker 3: front and let me figure it out. Yeah, I'm always
[33:16] Speaker 3: so uncomfortable with whatever any card says.
[33:18] Speaker 2: So usually do they have writing inside the Trader Joe's cards.
[33:21] Speaker 2: It's like rare or it's very similarre.
[33:24] Speaker 3: I think that's how they keep prices down. They only
[33:25] Speaker 3: print on.
[33:26] Speaker 2: The front, just like the Squeezer. They're very yes, yes,
[33:29] Speaker 2: but the front will make it clear. The front will
[33:31] Speaker 2: say like, right, here comes your birthday and it'll be
[33:35] Speaker 2: like a train. That's like birthday train.
[33:38] Speaker 3: That makes up the majority. We all love the Trader
[33:43] Speaker 3: Joe's Birthday train.
[33:44] Speaker 2: No.
[33:44] Speaker 3: I like the ones where it's like, oh, here's a
[33:46] Speaker 3: here's the ocean washing up on the beach, and now
[33:50] Speaker 3: I can apply this to whatever. It's the birthday beach,
[33:52] Speaker 3: it's the death beach, it's the baby is coming to shore.
[33:56] Speaker 3: Just let me sign the wedding wave at it's a dollar.
[34:00] Speaker 3: And I think every other car card company is scamming. Yeah,
[34:04] Speaker 3: there's just no justifying more than a dollar for a card.
[34:07] Speaker 2: It's true.
[34:08] Speaker 3: I don't know what to say, but how did we
[34:11] Speaker 3: get to car We were complaining about general stories and
[34:14] Speaker 3: this is a beautiful item to have gotten there. Do
[34:17] Speaker 3: you have a favorite fruit?
[34:19] Speaker 2: I think it's pineapple, really good mangos up there.
[34:23] Speaker 3: I'm trying to start to think about favorite things. I
[34:27] Speaker 3: feel like as a child, you have all of your
[34:28] Speaker 3: favorite things. Then that all goes away and.
[34:30] Speaker 2: You're constantly getting drilled on.
[34:32] Speaker 3: Them constantly people. I'm even quizzed constantly, I get pulled over.
[34:36] Speaker 3: I'm being asked what my favorite fruit?
[34:38] Speaker 2: That answer ready?
[34:39] Speaker 3: But eating a blood orange recently, I was thinking, Wow,
[34:41] Speaker 3: this is my favorite fruit.
[34:43] Speaker 2: That's nice.
[34:43] Speaker 3: I like a fruit that's not too sweet that if
[34:46] Speaker 3: I eat too many of them it will give me
[34:47] Speaker 3: a stomach ache. So the tartness, I feel like, controls
[34:50] Speaker 3: how many you can eat, but I do the blood orange.
[34:55] Speaker 3: Blood orange is excellent.
[34:56] Speaker 2: I like a I like a grape well, I like
[34:58] Speaker 2: grapefruit flavored. I like citrus a lot.
[35:02] Speaker 3: In general, I love grapefruit juice. But I've recently realized
[35:06] Speaker 3: that it interacts with my medication.
[35:08] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yet what a weird one.
[35:10] Speaker 3: It's like kind of a magic fruit in a way
[35:11] Speaker 3: that like you're on well, U turn and suddenly that
[35:13] Speaker 3: grapefruit is saying no, you can't, So I can't. I
[35:16] Speaker 3: guess I can't drink it that often. It's more of
[35:17] Speaker 3: a treat, but it feels dangerous. It's like, well, maybe
[35:20] Speaker 3: I'll be really depressed today.
[35:22] Speaker 2: And ultimately I would say, no, grapefruit's worth that.
[35:25] Speaker 3: I'll say it absolutely is send me to the edge
[35:29] Speaker 3: of depression. I love the taste of grapefruit. I love
[35:33] Speaker 3: to eat a grapefruit. I don't own any grapefruit forks though.
[35:36] Speaker 2: Oh okay, do you know, but all right, future guests.
[35:41] Speaker 3: Please mark it. I love a little grapefruit fork.
[35:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, very delicate.
[35:47] Speaker 3: I guess you can eat them with a regular.
[35:48] Speaker 2: Fork, but I mostly ate them with spoons. With spoons, yeah,
[35:53] Speaker 2: it was like really carving segment.
[35:55] Speaker 3: It is kind of a disaster. As far as eating
[35:58] Speaker 3: it should be shaped like an orange. The segments should
[36:02] Speaker 3: be more like an orange.
[36:03] Speaker 2: I guess they are. If you seal them, no, they
[36:07] Speaker 2: would be big.
[36:07] Speaker 3: It would be massive. I've never peeled a grape.
[36:10] Speaker 2: I think it was just the aesthetics of the eighties
[36:12] Speaker 2: of diet culture, like we're gonna cut this and you're
[36:15] Speaker 2: gonna eat it like it's cereal, and that'll trick your brain.
[36:18] Speaker 3: I've never thought about that.
[36:20] Speaker 2: Is each segment. You're really gonna work for it, But
[36:23] Speaker 2: it means exactly the same.
[36:25] Speaker 3: I feel like you would feel insane peeling one. No
[36:28] Speaker 3: you can Wow, you'd feel so small.
[36:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, but that'd be good.
[36:33] Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd feel like a little mouse, like when we
[36:35] Speaker 3: look at the stars. Right, it's exactly the same experience
[36:38] Speaker 3: as looking at the big dipper.
[36:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, remind reminding you of your place. Oh it's grapefruit.
[36:43] Speaker 3: I'm probably not that big.
[36:46] Speaker 2: Yes, this doesn't matter. Look at those grapefruit. Okay, take
[36:49] Speaker 2: a deep breath.
[36:51] Speaker 3: What was the last thing you made with your juice squeezer?
[36:54] Speaker 2: In the summer, my husband and I love a gin
[36:57] Speaker 2: and tonic. Oh, and we make something called an HV
[37:00] Speaker 2: G and T, which is a high volume G and
[37:02] Speaker 2: T because we love a G and T. But you're
[37:05] Speaker 2: but in the summer, you we actually desire more liquid,
[37:10] Speaker 2: especially if it's like the sundown or it's like the
[37:12] Speaker 2: like a happy hour cocktail. You don't want to like
[37:15] Speaker 2: have like a strong mixed drink. You actually want to
[37:17] Speaker 2: be like sipping on something exactly. So we invented the
[37:21] Speaker 2: HVG and T and we had cups made and so
[37:25] Speaker 2: that is a regular it's like two shots of gin,
[37:28] Speaker 2: usually drum shambo of the Irish gin. It has like
[37:31] Speaker 2: kind of notes of earl gray and then some tonic
[37:36] Speaker 2: and then you top the whole like rest of it
[37:39] Speaker 2: with like almost a whole can of pure bubbly Oh see,
[37:44] Speaker 2: like water it down with club soda. So now you're
[37:46] Speaker 2: gonna drink the equivalent of two drinks, but it's going
[37:48] Speaker 2: to take you way longer. And the key of it
[37:51] Speaker 2: to make the flavors balance is to put a lot
[37:53] Speaker 2: of lime, so it'll be like a full lime in each.
[37:57] Speaker 3: And what are the cups you had designed for them?
[37:59] Speaker 2: They're like the Yetti cup that's like one size. This
[38:03] Speaker 2: is not an official YETI no friads, but this is
[38:06] Speaker 2: it's like the size bigger than this that has the
[38:08] Speaker 2: like bulb out. Okay, and you can get those monograms.
[38:11] Speaker 2: So he got it for our anniversary, one for him
[38:14] Speaker 2: and one for me and they say HVG and T
[38:16] Speaker 2: and then our name on the back.
[38:18] Speaker 3: Oh hgt kind of HGTV very close. Wow, that could
[38:22] Speaker 3: be confused. Yeah, that feels like some sort of lawsuits. Yeah,
[38:26] Speaker 3: just on the fridge. Do you guys do a lot
[38:27] Speaker 3: of anniversary gifts?
[38:28] Speaker 2: No?
[38:29] Speaker 3: No, it was rare. Did you ever do? How long
[38:31] Speaker 3: have you been together?
[38:32] Speaker 2: We've been together fifteen years and we've been married for
[38:35] Speaker 2: ten and we have pretty like set rules about like
[38:38] Speaker 2: we don't give gifts for we say, no gifts, no
[38:42] Speaker 2: god loss. We give birthday gifts and Chris we have
[38:47] Speaker 2: like Christmas is like give one big gift and maybe
[38:50] Speaker 2: like four stocking stuffers. We try to keep it like
[38:53] Speaker 2: even no gift for Valentine's Day, no gift for anniversary.
[38:57] Speaker 2: So he kind of broke it.
[38:58] Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, that was a He always forgets that. We
[39:01] Speaker 3: do cards, okay.
[39:02] Speaker 2: And then I'll be like I have a card and
[39:04] Speaker 2: it's nine dollars from a general store.
[39:07] Speaker 3: We don't. Uh, we're really like slowing down on gifts.
[39:10] Speaker 3: I just yeah, I just don't need any. And you know,
[39:13] Speaker 3: it's like as an adult, you just buy everything you
[39:15] Speaker 3: need or yeah.
[39:16] Speaker 2: Or if something occurs to you organically, then it's really
[39:19] Speaker 2: cool that you know someone can think of you, right,
[39:21] Speaker 2: But when it's forced and it's in like a if
[39:24] Speaker 2: you don't have a good idea and you end up
[39:25] Speaker 2: being like, okay, I bout you five shirts, Like I
[39:27] Speaker 2: don't know why'd I do that?
[39:28] Speaker 3: You know, you probably would have bought once that you
[39:30] Speaker 3: like more.
[39:31] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[39:32] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a giant Yeah. I don't think we're getting
[39:34] Speaker 3: I mean it's we're getting past the idea of being
[39:36] Speaker 3: a sad thing. Yeah, it's like, well, we just have
[39:39] Speaker 3: agreed what would I buy you?
[39:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, And we did a thing where for a while
[39:44] Speaker 2: we were like, oh, let's just make sure we do
[39:47] Speaker 2: something fun on our anniversary.
[39:49] Speaker 3: Oh interesting, right.
[39:50] Speaker 2: Let's go make sure we like, let's go away for
[39:53] Speaker 2: the weekend, or let's like like this year is our tenures?
[39:56] Speaker 2: Just like, so we went away for the weekend.
[39:57] Speaker 3: Where did you go? Oh? Hi, Oh that's nice.
[40:00] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[40:00] Speaker 3: I'm not a no high person.
[40:02] Speaker 2: I feel full of general stores.
[40:03] Speaker 3: It feels like to me, like Mother's Day as a city.
[40:07] Speaker 3: Does that make any sense?
[40:10] Speaker 2: It makes perfect sense.
[40:11] Speaker 3: It's for whatever reason, it doesn't have anything for me there,
[40:14] Speaker 3: but I totally understand why other people like it.
[40:16] Speaker 2: Do you enjoy like a spa.
[40:18] Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever actually been to like a spa.
[40:21] Speaker 3: You stay at and I don't drink so like wine,
[40:24] Speaker 3: I feel like you do need to have a glass
[40:25] Speaker 3: of wine while you're there.
[40:26] Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would say, like a little massage and
[40:29] Speaker 2: then like a bike ride into town for brunch, you know.
[40:32] Speaker 3: See Mother's Day. Yeah, that's literally well, there's nothing wrong
[40:37] Speaker 3: with Mother's Day. Yeah, but I think if you were
[40:39] Speaker 3: to turn it into a physical place that would be oh.
[40:43] Speaker 2: Hi, yeah, I think that's probably true.
[40:45] Speaker 3: But that sounds like a lovely anniversary. True.
[40:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nice.
[40:47] Speaker 3: I didn't mean to.
[40:48] Speaker 2: No, no, no. We rode bikes and we sat by
[40:50] Speaker 2: the pool and.
[40:51] Speaker 3: We totally relaxing. I mean it's I mean, that's essentially
[40:53] Speaker 3: what I do in Palm Springs, yes.
[40:56] Speaker 2: But very similar, like if you go in the right
[40:59] Speaker 2: weather where you're gonna be by a pool. To me,
[41:00] Speaker 2: it's pretty similar to like a Palm Springs experience.
[41:03] Speaker 3: I just need somewhere to read. Yeah, I don't know. Okay,
[41:06] Speaker 3: let's uh. We've got this other thing here, which it's
[41:08] Speaker 3: a fortune teller fish.
[41:10] Speaker 2: Have you ever done this?
[41:11] Speaker 3: I have no idea what this is. Oh really, listener.
[41:13] Speaker 3: It's a little like plastic uh what would you say, bag?
[41:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, like a small plastic sleeve.
[41:19] Speaker 3: And it says fortune teller miracle fish with a very
[41:22] Speaker 3: cute fish on the front.
[41:23] Speaker 2: I didn't realize how seafood themed this was gonna it
[41:26] Speaker 2: was going to be. But okay, so I have a
[41:28] Speaker 2: very vivid memory that when I saw a little mermaid
[41:30] Speaker 2: in the theaters, we got these. But they're just like,
[41:33] Speaker 2: you know, it's in the same sort of vein as
[41:35] Speaker 2: like a finger trap or like a yo yo or
[41:39] Speaker 2: something like some small trinket, but or like a mood rink.
[41:42] Speaker 2: So if you open the sleeve, there's a small fish
[41:46] Speaker 2: in it. Oh my god, you're going to put it
[41:47] Speaker 2: on your palm, hold your palm out, and it's going
[41:49] Speaker 2: to tell your fortune.
[41:50] Speaker 3: So just like this, yeah, just put it on it.
[41:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Okay, okay, so it's like curling up.
[41:55] Speaker 2: Uh huh, it's actively curly, really curly. Oh my gosh,
[41:58] Speaker 2: fall curl tail flip what Okay, So then you can
[42:01] Speaker 2: look at the sleeve and it'll tell you your fortune.
[42:04] Speaker 3: Let's see. So uh with them, it says moving tail.
[42:08] Speaker 2: But uh, you definitely had moving tail, but you might
[42:11] Speaker 2: have is full curl.
[42:12] Speaker 3: One of the curling curls up entirely. Yeah, passionate, that's you.
[42:19] Speaker 2: The fish has told your fortune.
[42:21] Speaker 3: Everybody knew that already. I live a life of passion.
[42:23] Speaker 2: And what's tailed tail?
[42:25] Speaker 3: Moving tail? Indifference.
[42:27] Speaker 2: When it fully moved, it didn't just like flop like
[42:30] Speaker 2: a dead fish.
[42:31] Speaker 3: Right, It really curled up there in a way that
[42:34] Speaker 3: you know, I'm a fiery, passionate person.
[42:36] Speaker 2: That's a tight curl for a fortune fish.
[42:37] Speaker 3: Look at that, well, look at that full tube. Wow,
[42:41] Speaker 3: this has been I can't believe. I've never heard of this.
[42:43] Speaker 3: I've never used one.
[42:45] Speaker 2: You know, they might not be allowed in the city
[42:47] Speaker 2: of Utah.
[42:48] Speaker 3: How does this even work? What is that made of that?
[42:50] Speaker 3: That it's reacting to the heat of your hand or
[42:53] Speaker 3: just the who I am?
[42:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, the pulse of your heart. You know, it's sensing you.
[42:58] Speaker 2: It's making a home in your hand.
[43:00] Speaker 3: And this is interesting because I feel like I have
[43:02] Speaker 3: horrible circulation and usually my hands and feet are very cold.
[43:05] Speaker 3: So today something with the universe was saying passion, passion.
[43:09] Speaker 3: When was the last time you did one of those?
[43:12] Speaker 2: I think maybe this. There was a time like recently
[43:17] Speaker 2: where we were somewhere and we saw them and my
[43:18] Speaker 2: family was like laughing because we hadn't seen them in years,
[43:21] Speaker 2: and we like made my nephews and niece like try it.
[43:23] Speaker 2: We were just like fortune fish. It's been ages.
[43:26] Speaker 3: I love it. Yeah, Are you big into like psychics
[43:29] Speaker 3: this kind of thing? No, No, have you ever been
[43:31] Speaker 3: to a psychic?
[43:32] Speaker 2: No?
[43:33] Speaker 3: What a shame? Not in LA. You've got to go
[43:35] Speaker 3: to one.
[43:36] Speaker 2: I know. I'm just trying to hold the line.
[43:39] Speaker 3: For what line are you holding? Not losing your mind?
[43:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, just trying to just trying to keep those feet
[43:47] Speaker 2: on the ground.
[43:48] Speaker 3: Good luck. Yeah, No, I think I've held the line
[43:52] Speaker 3: pretty well. But I love the experience. Sure, It's just
[43:55] Speaker 3: like I haven't been to one of those ones that
[43:56] Speaker 3: says fortune teller the window, which I think that would
[43:59] Speaker 3: be incredible.
[44:00] Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and I sometimes like try to keep an
[44:01] Speaker 2: open mind, Like if I'm walking the streets of New
[44:04] Speaker 2: Orleans and I see something like that could be almost
[44:07] Speaker 2: like a I guess it's here too, Like if it
[44:09] Speaker 2: feels so ingrained in the culture, you're just being like
[44:13] Speaker 2: an open hearted tourist. Really, but I one time, for
[44:17] Speaker 2: a quiz for my friend's bachelor party, called a psychic
[44:22] Speaker 2: for their behalf and invented a game called like is
[44:26] Speaker 2: this something the psychic said? Or is this a lyric
[44:28] Speaker 2: from a musical?
[44:31] Speaker 3: That's great? Yeah, what musicals were using for every music?
[44:35] Speaker 2: Any like, really really broad You're a.
[44:38] Speaker 3: Big musical person. Yeah, have you been to New York
[44:42] Speaker 3: recently to see any shows?
[44:43] Speaker 2: I just was in New York with like a sort
[44:45] Speaker 2: of dedicated purpose that I wanted to see shows. But brag.
[44:49] Speaker 2: I have two friends who are in place, The World
[44:52] Speaker 2: of Tomorrow, which is with Tom Hanks and then Marjorie
[44:55] Speaker 2: Prime with June Squib. My friends Tom Hanks and June. Yeah,
[44:58] Speaker 2: of course my friends in plays, and so the plays
[45:01] Speaker 2: we saw were their plays.
[45:02] Speaker 3: Oh that's great, which is lovely.
[45:03] Speaker 2: But I was like, this is funny because it's been
[45:05] Speaker 2: a minute since I've been able to like go to
[45:07] Speaker 2: New York for shows.
[45:08] Speaker 3: And about your friend's work.
[45:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like a work friend. I wasn't like,
[45:11] Speaker 2: let me see death becomser or something right, right.
[45:15] Speaker 3: And you'll never see Queena Versailles.
[45:18] Speaker 2: I'll never see it that one before my very eyes.
[45:22] Speaker 3: I think it was like three weeks or something.
[45:24] Speaker 2: Tough, tough, it's a tough business.
[45:26] Speaker 3: Yeah, talking to somebody about this, I think that is
[45:29] Speaker 3: that the first Oh no, that's not the first documentary
[45:32] Speaker 3: to musical because there's great gardens gardens, but it was No.
[45:37] Speaker 2: I was going to say, like it might have just
[45:38] Speaker 2: been a zeitgeist thing where I feel like spelling Bee
[45:41] Speaker 2: was at the similar time as the Spelling and it's
[45:43] Speaker 2: not based on but it feels of a similar like oh,
[45:46] Speaker 2: group think moment where we decided spelling Bee's.
[45:49] Speaker 3: Were Spelling Bee the documentary. I loved that. I wonder
[45:52] Speaker 3: where those kids are now, we need to do a
[45:54] Speaker 3: catch up?
[45:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, where are they?
[45:55] Speaker 3: Where did the Spelling Bee take them? And it's been probably.
[45:59] Speaker 2: At least hundred years, so it's public domain.
[46:03] Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder that's hard. Somebody's got to catch up
[46:05] Speaker 3: a spelling Yeah. I imagine it probably wouldn't be very
[46:08] Speaker 3: fun to watch.
[46:09] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[46:09] Speaker 3: I feel like anytime you're catching up with people from
[46:11] Speaker 3: a documentary, it's usually.
[46:13] Speaker 2: They did that one documentary where they followed like a
[46:16] Speaker 2: certain group.
[46:16] Speaker 3: Of kids for seven up. Yeah, the British thing.
[46:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, I never watched it, but I know how to
[46:21] Speaker 2: reference it in this moment.
[46:22] Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's just watching time. Yeah,
[46:28] Speaker 3: it's uh, the funnest experience.
[46:31] Speaker 2: And that's why I feel like our dear sweet SLC.
[46:34] Speaker 2: Maybe you know you don't want it to overstay. It's
[46:37] Speaker 2: welcome and become.
[46:38] Speaker 3: But the thing I'll say is with you know, you
[46:41] Speaker 3: start with people whose lives are already a complete mess, right,
[46:44] Speaker 3: so it's just like, let's just watch it become a
[46:45] Speaker 3: different type of mess.
[46:47] Speaker 2: And I'm just like, are any of these I mean,
[46:49] Speaker 2: I feel like the longer they stay, the more like
[46:52] Speaker 2: the marriages don't last.
[46:53] Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, well, and these marriages were all hanging
[46:56] Speaker 3: by a thread. The fact that there hasn't been a
[46:59] Speaker 3: big dival until now, right, Todd? Goodbye Todd? Wait?
[47:03] Speaker 2: Is that a fish?
[47:04] Speaker 3: I thought it was? I thought Bronwin was divorcing him.
[47:08] Speaker 2: Is that outside the show? Is that news?
[47:11] Speaker 3: That's news outside of the show?
[47:12] Speaker 2: That's huge?
[47:13] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like recent outside of you know, because they
[47:15] Speaker 3: probably shot it in the spring of twenty five. What
[47:20] Speaker 3: is time?
[47:20] Speaker 2: I mean, it seemed bad. He stole the cherry out
[47:22] Speaker 2: of her Sunday after she explicitly said that's my favorite part,
[47:26] Speaker 2: and that's.
[47:27] Speaker 3: Just a red flag about both of them. No one
[47:28] Speaker 3: likes that cherry.
[47:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, as an adult, like that was like something I
[47:32] Speaker 2: would get out the bottom of my Shirley Temple is like, hooray.
[47:36] Speaker 3: The fact that he stole that was so crazy and
[47:39] Speaker 3: it was such a father daughter day. I know everything
[47:42] Speaker 3: about it was tough to watch. Yeah, he wasn't you know,
[47:45] Speaker 3: like age gap things you can be like sometimes like
[47:48] Speaker 3: oh he's charming or he's really good looking. He was
[47:50] Speaker 3: just kind of nothing. He was just like a Yeah,
[47:53] Speaker 3: he should have been married to Muzzy. Yeah, those two
[47:56] Speaker 3: would be an excellent couple. Yes, maybe that's maybe she
[48:00] Speaker 3: was the gal he was looking at on a plane.
[48:02] Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Muzzy.
[48:04] Speaker 3: She was sending him photos. Now wow, how did I
[48:10] Speaker 3: not piece that together? She was living in his house.
[48:12] Speaker 3: It was all under Bronwin's nose.
[48:14] Speaker 2: And here's what we've been able to do today. We've
[48:15] Speaker 2: been sleuths.
[48:18] Speaker 3: Get your magnifying glass, put on your hat, and you're
[48:21] Speaker 3: smoking pipe. Wow.
[48:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like we could be a segment on
[48:25] Speaker 2: the reun your world, Like, don't tell us anything yet,
[48:27] Speaker 2: let us guess.
[48:30] Speaker 3: Do you know what I heard recently? Part of the
[48:32] Speaker 3: reason Lisa has makeup every day is she can't see
[48:36] Speaker 3: very well. I think that's what I heard.
[48:39] Speaker 2: That kind of breaks my heart.
[48:40] Speaker 3: But it's the sort of thing where it's like, why
[48:42] Speaker 3: doesn't she say that, that's the one thing that could
[48:44] Speaker 3: humanize this person. She's like, no, I want to be
[48:46] Speaker 3: a monster.
[48:47] Speaker 2: Why don't you You can't just like put on this
[48:49] Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean my mom will often be like,
[48:52] Speaker 2: will you check my eyeliner? You know, and there's like
[48:56] Speaker 2: a dexterity thing. And but apparently my sister was just like, mom,
[49:01] Speaker 2: just line with shadow instead and use this brush and
[49:04] Speaker 2: it'll blend softer anyway.
[49:06] Speaker 3: Wow, what a great tip.
[49:07] Speaker 2: I know.
[49:08] Speaker 3: See this is how podcasts change people's lives. So listeners like, oh,
[49:11] Speaker 3: now I can fix my I'm a mess. But yeah,
[49:14] Speaker 3: apparently I think Heather said that on an after show
[49:18] Speaker 3: or something that is interesting, big secrets that should be
[49:21] Speaker 3: the drama of Dex season. Yeah, that revelation you never know.
[49:26] Speaker 2: And that's why she's always wearing big glasses.
[49:28] Speaker 3: Oh interesting, do you know? Wow? Those are all giant
[49:33] Speaker 3: prescription glasses.
[49:34] Speaker 2: There's a chance and maybe she doesn't have good she's
[49:38] Speaker 2: not a candidate for contacts.
[49:39] Speaker 3: Maybe And we never see her driving, do we. I
[49:42] Speaker 3: feel like it's usually John driving. Yeah, and she's eating
[49:45] Speaker 3: chicken nug Yeah. Oh wow, it's one of these.
[49:49] Speaker 2: It's all becoming clear. Oh my gosh.
[49:52] Speaker 3: It's all like it's very sixth sense, where it's.
[49:54] Speaker 2: Like it's been there the whole time.
[49:56] Speaker 3: It was all the little can't.
[49:58] Speaker 2: Hear and Lisa can't see I have to stick together.
[50:01] Speaker 3: Wow.
[50:02] Speaker 2: And they're both not from Utah.
[50:07] Speaker 3: Fascinating and they're both very sensitive about it.
[50:10] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[50:11] Speaker 3: Interesting interesting, interesting, And if they would both just own
[50:15] Speaker 3: up to it are a little bit more, yeah, I'd
[50:18] Speaker 3: be like, Oh, I get it now, Yeah, you're not
[50:20] Speaker 3: just the devil. I don't know. Well, I'm passionate. I've
[50:24] Speaker 3: got my lime squeezer. I think we should play a game. Great,
[50:28] Speaker 3: we're gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse.
[50:29] Speaker 3: But I need a number between one and ten from
[50:31] Speaker 3: you four. Okay. I have to do some light calculating
[50:34] Speaker 3: to get our game piece. So right now, you can recommend, promote,
[50:37] Speaker 3: do whatever you want. I'll be right back.
[50:39] Speaker 2: Okay, great, I don't really have anything to super promote
[50:42] Speaker 2: right now. I tour a lot, but we won't be
[50:45] Speaker 2: touring un till April. I guess if you live in Texas,
[50:47] Speaker 2: you can see off Book, which is my former podcast
[50:51] Speaker 2: that now just tours where we improvise a musical. So
[50:54] Speaker 2: if you're in Texas and you want to come to Moontower,
[50:57] Speaker 2: you can come see off Book also I'll recommend a
[51:00] Speaker 2: sitch a squeezer. I really think it's worth it. And
[51:02] Speaker 2: anytime you have ever cut just like a wedge of
[51:05] Speaker 2: a lime and tried to do that, it's not the same.
[51:09] Speaker 2: And that squeeze is going sideways. It's not going down
[51:12] Speaker 2: into your cup, okay, And that's how you get that's
[51:14] Speaker 2: how you get it in an open cut. You know
[51:17] Speaker 2: that's not nice. And also more recipes than you think
[51:20] Speaker 2: could benefit from a little bit of citrus to brighten
[51:23] Speaker 2: it up. Do you know about acid in your food?
[51:28] Speaker 3: Very good?
[51:28] Speaker 2: Thanks, very good.
[51:29] Speaker 3: I mean I will say, when you're out squeezing the
[51:32] Speaker 3: thing into the drink, go for it. And I also
[51:35] Speaker 3: think getting it in a cut nothing wrong with that. Wow,
[51:38] Speaker 3: it's a little prairie advice. But now suddenly it's so clean.
[51:42] Speaker 3: It is clean, fresh smelling. Yeah, but ultimately we need
[51:45] Speaker 3: the squeezer in the home.
[51:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, I agree. Like if you are
[51:49] Speaker 2: at a wedding and you got like a you waited
[51:51] Speaker 2: fifteen minutes for a vodka cran and you're like, gotta
[51:53] Speaker 2: get this lime in here, do your best, but no,
[51:56] Speaker 2: most of that juice is going sideways when you squeeze it.
[51:59] Speaker 3: And now you have thing floating at the bottom of
[52:01] Speaker 3: your drink, kind of a little dead shrimp down there.
[52:04] Speaker 3: Tough to hear. Okay, do I have anything to recommend her?
[52:09] Speaker 3: I already said, We've got the T shirt. Now the
[52:11] Speaker 3: merch go to exactly right store dot com. Yeah, that
[52:17] Speaker 3: seems right.
[52:18] Speaker 2: Okay, seemed exactly right.
[52:22] Speaker 3: This is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm
[52:23] Speaker 3: going to name three things, so you'll tell me if
[52:25] Speaker 3: there are a gift or a curse and why I
[52:26] Speaker 3: don't tell you if you're right or wrong, because there
[52:28] Speaker 3: are correct answers, you can lose the game. Great, all right?
[52:31] Speaker 3: This first one is from a listener named Emily. Gift
[52:33] Speaker 3: or a Curse looking at a menu online right before
[52:36] Speaker 3: dining at the restaurant.
[52:40] Speaker 2: I think this is ultimately a curse. Why I have
[52:43] Speaker 2: done that before? Sometimes right before. I don't think I've
[52:46] Speaker 2: ever done right before. I've sometimes if it's a really
[52:49] Speaker 2: big splurge, or or if you're in charge of like
[52:52] Speaker 2: picking a food place for maybe disparate dietary needs and
[52:56] Speaker 2: you have to look at the menu to make sure, like, oh,
[52:58] Speaker 2: everyone could get something here, or this is gonna be
[53:01] Speaker 2: the right vibe for this, you know, hangout that I'm
[53:04] Speaker 2: trying to plan. But ultimately, I think one of the
[53:08] Speaker 2: great joys and I'm I'm glad that the QR codes
[53:11] Speaker 2: have like been pushed back a little bit and they're
[53:14] Speaker 2: mostly just at like very very fast casual type restaurants now.
[53:18] Speaker 2: But I think a great joy is to sit down
[53:20] Speaker 2: and have that like discovery. It's a great small talk
[53:24] Speaker 2: to the beginning of the night to have that, like,
[53:28] Speaker 2: you know, let's break the ice here. We can be like,
[53:29] Speaker 2: oh wait, did you see they actually have fetuccini? And
[53:33] Speaker 2: now we're and now we can talk about that before
[53:35] Speaker 2: we talk about like, hey, did you hear the uh
[53:38] Speaker 2: Todd and Brownwood are getting a divorce? You know, you
[53:40] Speaker 2: can't just go right to that. It's like the emmuz
[53:42] Speaker 2: boosh for the conversation is the menu And if everyone's
[53:47] Speaker 2: like I already looked ahead and I know what I'm getting.
[53:49] Speaker 2: I'm getting duck comfee and I'm like, whoa should we
[53:52] Speaker 2: share the duck comfie? Like you know, And also I
[53:54] Speaker 2: think it's very nice to sit down at a meal
[53:56] Speaker 2: and try to be on even footing. So if you've
[53:58] Speaker 2: looked at the menu, and some hasn't. I understand there's
[54:03] Speaker 2: a time and place, but I think ultimately.
[54:05] Speaker 3: Occurs correct, thank you, but for different reasons. I'm seeing
[54:10] Speaker 3: the words right before. No, no, no, it should have
[54:13] Speaker 3: been weeks. You should have been studying the menu. Uh huh.
[54:16] Speaker 3: Worrying about the price is panicking about what you'll eat,
[54:20] Speaker 3: deciding and looking and going back and forth, really weighing
[54:23] Speaker 3: the pros and cons of each menu item, saying if
[54:26] Speaker 3: you even trust the restaurant, then looking at it again,
[54:30] Speaker 3: maybe showing it to your partner, showing it again, then
[54:32] Speaker 3: going to the restaurant, and still asking the waiter for suggestions. Yes,
[54:36] Speaker 3: I think that ultimately you need to have you need
[54:38] Speaker 3: to essentially have memorized the menu in advance.
[54:43] Speaker 2: Well, so that's an example where maybe I would have
[54:45] Speaker 2: gotten points deducted in my show the work, but but
[54:48] Speaker 2: you would have ultimately said some of the points because
[54:50] Speaker 2: you're like you did get the right answer. The hypot
[54:52] Speaker 2: news is this.
[54:53] Speaker 3: But but we know you cheated. You looked at somebody.
[54:56] Speaker 3: All right, You've gotten one right so far. The second
[55:00] Speaker 3: from a listener named Samantha Gift or a curse gravestone recipes.
[55:04] Speaker 3: Have you heard of this. Now, this is something I
[55:06] Speaker 3: recently became familiar with. I don't know if this is
[55:08] Speaker 3: something that's bubbling up online or what, but there, you know,
[55:11] Speaker 3: it's literally what it is. I think it's like on
[55:13] Speaker 3: your gravestone, you have your favorite recipe or something.
[55:18] Speaker 2: I don't know about this, Okay, let me think about it.
[55:22] Speaker 2: Let me not just be knee jerk. Okay. I'm torn
[55:27] Speaker 2: because I think I'm becoming anti grave in general. Like
[55:31] Speaker 2: I think we should all be made into seed pods
[55:33] Speaker 2: or dust.
[55:34] Speaker 3: Like.
[55:34] Speaker 2: I don't like the idea all grieving machinations and businesses
[55:41] Speaker 2: are for the living, and so I get that, do
[55:44] Speaker 2: what you think. But I don't want people to like
[55:46] Speaker 2: come to a little like granite square for me. I
[55:50] Speaker 2: want them to think about me any other place and
[55:52] Speaker 2: not just have this very morbid place where they go
[55:55] Speaker 2: where they're surrounded by other granite squares, where you're like,
[55:57] Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this is really set. I mean up
[56:00] Speaker 2: visiting my grandmother's grave, and it was always very sad.
[56:03] Speaker 2: It didn't make me feel closer to her or like,
[56:06] Speaker 2: you know, I felt closer to her when I would
[56:08] Speaker 2: remember something, or we'd laugh about something, or someone would
[56:10] Speaker 2: tell the story about something funny she did, or that
[56:14] Speaker 2: was how we kept her memory alive. The granite stone
[56:16] Speaker 2: I don't like. Also recipes, they get splatched, they get
[56:20] Speaker 2: like things spilled on them. They're meant to like live
[56:22] Speaker 2: in the kitchen, because ultimately you're gonna have to have
[56:24] Speaker 2: a picture of this gravestone. So if you're like, hey,
[56:26] Speaker 2: does anyone remember how grandma made her Swedish meatballs? Here,
[56:29] Speaker 2: let me send you a screenshot of a photo I
[56:32] Speaker 2: have of her grave. Whereas that should just be in
[56:35] Speaker 2: a recipe card or something that you all have as
[56:37] Speaker 2: her grandchildren. So I'm gonna say curse, although I like
[56:41] Speaker 2: the idea of that. I like part of that, which
[56:44] Speaker 2: is like honoring something joyful about their life and not
[56:48] Speaker 2: just dates and like list of familial roles they held.
[56:53] Speaker 3: Well, first of all, just say I heard almost nothing
[56:55] Speaker 3: you were saying. Because I was thinking about being turned
[56:57] Speaker 3: into a bath ball. I think that should be an option,
[57:01] Speaker 3: a death option, being turned into a bath bomb. If
[57:03] Speaker 3: that's not already, what is it called bed? No bath
[57:08] Speaker 3: and body works? That should be their new thing.
[57:12] Speaker 2: Oh that's brilliant.
[57:13] Speaker 3: Bath and body works. Ash bombs, ash bath bombs, brilliant.
[57:17] Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's okay. I'm so sorry I was distracted.
[57:20] Speaker 2: I mean, you were having a once in a generation idea.
[57:24] Speaker 3: But I will say I did hear what you said.
[57:26] Speaker 3: I think that well, first of all, you're wrong. They
[57:30] Speaker 3: are a gift. I think every gravestone should come with
[57:33] Speaker 3: a recipe. This is the this is the only place
[57:35] Speaker 3: where you should be able to get recipes. We should
[57:37] Speaker 3: take them all off of the Internet, and people should
[57:40] Speaker 3: be scouring graveyards for people's favorite recipes.
[57:43] Speaker 2: Now that I agree with, because the experience of looking
[57:46] Speaker 2: up a recipe online is a healthscape.
[57:48] Speaker 3: Oh it's a tough one. It's I mean, the you know,
[57:51] Speaker 3: I feel bad for the recipe authors because it's obviously
[57:54] Speaker 3: a nightmare and that's how they get trying to make
[57:56] Speaker 3: money on whatever.
[57:57] Speaker 2: But it's horrific that you have to read a posts
[58:00] Speaker 2: and they'll like they'll like soft dole out the information
[58:03] Speaker 2: where they tell you like some of the ingredients, and
[58:05] Speaker 2: then you're like, wait, wait, wait, no, where's the list
[58:06] Speaker 2: of the ingredients? And you're like scrolling, scrolling, scrolling millions
[58:10] Speaker 2: of pop ups. And I didn't think about this about
[58:12] Speaker 2: taking recipes from graves you're not connected to, right, and
[58:16] Speaker 2: then that would make a cemetery much more pleasant. You
[58:18] Speaker 2: could just like walk among the gravestones and say, oh
[58:21] Speaker 2: my gosh, I've never thought to do that with Ricotta.
[58:23] Speaker 3: All right, and maybe the grave the graveyard has a
[58:27] Speaker 3: grocery store attached trull, so we can do all our
[58:30] Speaker 3: shopping and recipe gathering with the dead.
[58:32] Speaker 2: That's nice.
[58:33] Speaker 3: So you were wrong, but that's fine. You made some
[58:35] Speaker 3: good points you thanks, all right. This final one is
[58:38] Speaker 3: from Peter Gift. You're a curse reacting to texts or
[58:41] Speaker 3: shared posts with a non red heart, for example, orange, green,
[58:46] Speaker 3: et cetera.
[58:48] Speaker 2: I'm even caught up in the semantics that I believe
[58:50] Speaker 2: the original one was more like pink and you actually
[58:53] Speaker 2: have to scroll to get there to get the true red.
[58:56] Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Well, we had our starter pack of thumbs up,
[58:59] Speaker 2: thumbs down question and mark heart. It's more of a
[59:02] Speaker 2: pink heart. You have to scroll to get a red heart, right,
[59:06] Speaker 2: But I don't think that's what Peter meant, and I
[59:08] Speaker 2: don't purposely difficult. Yeah, I don't need a drag Peter
[59:11] Speaker 2: about like shades of pinks and reds.
[59:12] Speaker 3: Well, he's not a tech head like you are.
[59:14] Speaker 2: Yeah me, no one can ever accuse me of being
[59:18] Speaker 2: a luddite. I think it's okay. Just different color hearts, yes,
[59:26] Speaker 2: not like oh I'm searching for like a ding bell,
[59:29] Speaker 2: or like a lightning bolt, or a snowman.
[59:32] Speaker 3: Right, or a weird little silhouette of a man. That
[59:34] Speaker 3: means that's so ominous.
[59:36] Speaker 2: I'm gonna say a curse. Why because you have to
[59:40] Speaker 2: do work for that, and that's such a lateral move
[59:42] Speaker 2: and I have nothing connected to green heart, Purple heart.
[59:46] Speaker 2: Purple heart makes me think of someone who got injured
[59:48] Speaker 2: in war. Orange heart, m.
[59:52] Speaker 3: H, what does orange heart that one? Really?
[59:55] Speaker 2: Holland nothing? You're you're excited that the Holland national soccer
[1:00:00] Speaker 2: team is doing well.
[1:00:02] Speaker 3: That comes up all the time for me.
[1:00:03] Speaker 2: I'm always talking about that.
[1:00:06] Speaker 3: I have several different threads about the Holland team. You're correct,
[1:00:10] Speaker 3: this is a curse. I uh, we should have stopped
[1:00:13] Speaker 3: at the one color at heart, red or pink, whatever
[1:00:15] Speaker 3: it was, the one Valentine's the heart.
[1:00:17] Speaker 2: Yes.
[1:00:18] Speaker 3: I can't continue to read into whatever your your reaction
[1:00:21] Speaker 3: is to my text. I just need to know that
[1:00:23] Speaker 3: you wanted to stop talking to me, Yes, that you
[1:00:25] Speaker 3: were done.
[1:00:25] Speaker 2: With the conversation, you're putting a period on it.
[1:00:28] Speaker 3: Yes, thank you. I will not be responding to this
[1:00:30] Speaker 3: any firm.
[1:00:31] Speaker 2: I used to send my my manager and I when
[1:00:33] Speaker 2: we text, when I was sort of done with the conversation,
[1:00:36] Speaker 2: or when I was like cool, I got it. I
[1:00:38] Speaker 2: would just send back, not react, but would send just
[1:00:41] Speaker 2: the sunglasses emoji.
[1:00:42] Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one, you know, like.
[1:00:43] Speaker 2: Cool cool, gotcha. We were big, cool, cool kids to
[1:00:46] Speaker 2: each other. You know, he's also so cowboy, so it's
[1:00:48] Speaker 2: a lot of.
[1:00:48] Speaker 3: Like cool cool, cool, surfs.
[1:00:50] Speaker 2: Up, calban guy, hang loose, toasts the nose, and then one.
[1:00:55] Speaker 2: And I always thought it was a charming way in
[1:00:56] Speaker 2: the conversation. And then one time he was like, oh,
[1:00:58] Speaker 2: so you're done talking to me.
[1:01:01] Speaker 3: Well, yes, but it's a nice way to answer, I know.
[1:01:03] Speaker 2: I was like, sorry, it's a good exit point. I mean,
[1:01:05] Speaker 2: weel olled. It was appropriate ribbing. But I was like, oh,
[1:01:08] Speaker 2: so you did see what I was doing.
[1:01:10] Speaker 3: Yes, but when you see what somebody's doing, just doing it.
[1:01:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, let it be whisper words.
[1:01:18] Speaker 3: Okay, we got two out of three. Not too terrible.
[1:01:21] Speaker 3: All right. This is the final segment of the podcast.
[1:01:24] Speaker 3: This is I said no emails people write into I
[1:01:26] Speaker 3: said no gifts at gmail dot com begging for answers.
[1:01:29] Speaker 3: Can help me answer a question I love to all Right,
[1:01:31] Speaker 3: this is hybridg or and guest. I am a Day
[1:01:33] Speaker 3: one listener and love the podcast. Well, this is a
[1:01:35] Speaker 3: huge red flag for us. This person's a problem person.
[1:01:39] Speaker 3: I'm writing with a bit of a unique gift situation.
[1:01:42] Speaker 3: I'm hoping you can help me with. My husband had
[1:01:43] Speaker 3: a stroke last weekend at the age of thirty five.
[1:01:47] Speaker 2: Oh gosh.
[1:01:47] Speaker 3: She's doing really well and is recovering at home now,
[1:01:50] Speaker 3: but it was the most terrifying experience of our lives.
[1:01:52] Speaker 3: The future remains somewhat unknown in terms of what of
[1:01:55] Speaker 3: when he'll be able to return to work and what
[1:01:57] Speaker 3: kinds of activity he'll be able to do. Now that
[1:02:00] Speaker 3: I've thoroughly killed the vibe you have, you've ruined the episode.
[1:02:04] Speaker 3: Here's my question. With Christmas coming up? Okay, and so
[1:02:07] Speaker 3: now this is tough tough all.
[1:02:09] Speaker 2: Around for Ida really timestamped this, but I'm sorry you
[1:02:14] Speaker 2: will now get this advice after.
[1:02:15] Speaker 3: Christmas is always coming up. Ultimately true, start the Mariah Carey.
[1:02:20] Speaker 3: Now just get into the spirit of the season in January. Absolutely,
[1:02:24] Speaker 3: I'm okay. So with Christmas coming up, I'm struggling to
[1:02:27] Speaker 3: think of gift ideas. Everything I would normally get him
[1:02:29] Speaker 3: doesn't feel meaningful enough to express how thankful I am
[1:02:32] Speaker 3: for him, how much I love him, and how much
[1:02:34] Speaker 3: he means to me and our son. I'm almost limited
[1:02:37] Speaker 3: by the I'm also limited by the unknown future. He
[1:02:40] Speaker 3: loves his craft beer, but can't drink right now. We
[1:02:44] Speaker 3: love to travel together, but he can't travel yet, et cetera.
[1:02:47] Speaker 3: He enjoys music, video games, and his job as a
[1:02:49] Speaker 3: behavior specialist in in middle school. God bless this person.
[1:02:53] Speaker 3: He's the best person I know. I appreciate any ideas
[1:02:56] Speaker 3: you can give me to make this Christmas special Alex.
[1:02:59] Speaker 3: And then there's a ps. It says, I know this
[1:03:01] Speaker 3: is a serious topic, a serious and not very funny topic,
[1:03:04] Speaker 3: but my husband and I both have a sense of humor,
[1:03:06] Speaker 3: so feel free to joke about it. Well, I was listen.
[1:03:09] Speaker 3: I was gonna do whatever I wanted, no matter what.
[1:03:11] Speaker 2: That's very sweet, she says.
[1:03:12] Speaker 3: I almost brought his The Strokes T shirt to the
[1:03:15] Speaker 3: hospital for him to go home in and then he
[1:03:17] Speaker 3: was disappointed, disappointed that I didn't. I would. I would say,
[1:03:20] Speaker 3: you have to have multiple strokes if you're gonna wear
[1:03:22] Speaker 3: that T shirt. That's true, So that would have been
[1:03:24] Speaker 3: a bad thing.
[1:03:24] Speaker 2: Unless she taped over the final less Yes, exactly the stroke,
[1:03:29] Speaker 2: the stroke, But I love that they're aligned. You gotta laugh.
[1:03:32] Speaker 3: You got what else can you do?
[1:03:34] Speaker 2: Alex? Oh Man? That is tough to you.
[1:03:36] Speaker 3: And what a tough year for both of them. Because
[1:03:39] Speaker 3: now the Christmas email has been read in January.
[1:03:41] Speaker 2: Yes, but hopefully like his birthday, this will still be
[1:03:45] Speaker 2: applying always. There's always another occasion.
[1:03:48] Speaker 3: It will always have had the stroke. Yes, So it's
[1:03:52] Speaker 3: totally fine. And by now, you know, maybe he's up
[1:03:56] Speaker 3: and running.
[1:03:57] Speaker 2: Okay, So I mean without wow trying to show appreciation.
[1:04:04] Speaker 2: What's the what's Alex's husband's name?
[1:04:07] Speaker 1: Uh?
[1:04:08] Speaker 3: We never found out. That was the one piece of
[1:04:10] Speaker 3: information that from Alex's life that we didn't.
[1:04:13] Speaker 2: Get, Okay, So without knowing Tony Tony, you know, I
[1:04:20] Speaker 2: would need to know Tony's love language, I feel because
[1:04:23] Speaker 2: I think, you know, appreciation when you really want to
[1:04:26] Speaker 2: show like meaning a lot of times it's like doing
[1:04:30] Speaker 2: the thing that they have been putting off for themselves,
[1:04:33] Speaker 2: you know, like changing the dome light in your car
[1:04:37] Speaker 2: or like that's a big one.
[1:04:39] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:04:39] Speaker 2: One time my husband replaced the ram in my computer.
[1:04:42] Speaker 2: Oh wow, I was like cool and he was like
[1:04:44] Speaker 2: it probably saved you like two years on getting a
[1:04:46] Speaker 2: new computer. And those don't always get the showiest reaction
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: for me because that doesn't mean as much to me.
[1:04:53] Speaker 2: But I think it's like thinking of things that make
[1:04:58] Speaker 2: life easier is always I used for your partner, or like,
[1:05:01] Speaker 2: oh I I you mentioned obviously that's always the best.
[1:05:04] Speaker 2: Is someone like mentioned it if we're laughing? I mean,
[1:05:07] Speaker 2: is there a cameo we can get from the Strokes where.
[1:05:10] Speaker 3: They say in Casablancas cameo, you know, have him say
[1:05:13] Speaker 3: or do you've had a stroke?
[1:05:14] Speaker 2: You know, maybe a little song right, but like they
[1:05:17] Speaker 2: can play every time things are getting kind of bleak,
[1:05:19] Speaker 2: they can like maybe we should actually dance out to
[1:05:21] Speaker 2: your bespoke song that's like, hey, it's okay, We're so
[1:05:25] Speaker 2: glad that you're here, don't be afraid.
[1:05:28] Speaker 3: You know, that's a good one. We're wondering, are any
[1:05:30] Speaker 3: of the Strokes on cameo that feels like.
[1:05:35] Speaker 2: We can always like reach out to their record label
[1:05:37] Speaker 2: and their manager and say this is a very specific ask,
[1:05:39] Speaker 2: but I think it would really bring a smile to
[1:05:41] Speaker 2: his face. And it's something that you could replay and
[1:05:44] Speaker 2: laugh about, like it's a little evergreen.
[1:05:47] Speaker 3: In their Instagram comments and just reply over and over,
[1:05:50] Speaker 3: comment after comment. Please write myself, Please, please husband a song. Yeah,
[1:05:53] Speaker 3: he had a stroke, Write him a song. Yes, as
[1:05:56] Speaker 3: many times as you want.
[1:05:57] Speaker 2: Okay, then a completely different direction, but just so that
[1:06:00] Speaker 2: I would enjoy if I was in a place of
[1:06:01] Speaker 2: like needing to take things a little slower and be
[1:06:03] Speaker 2: at home. But I'm sensitive that I hope there's if
[1:06:07] Speaker 2: there aren't any dexterity fall out issues from the stroke.
[1:06:10] Speaker 2: But I love a really complicated lego set.
[1:06:13] Speaker 3: Oh I've never been able to complete a lego set.
[1:06:17] Speaker 3: My older brother would always complete them for me.
[1:06:19] Speaker 2: Have you ventured as an adult? No?
[1:06:21] Speaker 3: I don't think I have the skills. I don't have
[1:06:23] Speaker 3: the spatial skills.
[1:06:24] Speaker 2: No, you do. And they're so peaceful and they are
[1:06:28] Speaker 2: brilliantly organized. Where here's the best thing about them as
[1:06:31] Speaker 2: an adult because I like a puzzle too, But then
[1:06:33] Speaker 2: it's like sitting out. You know, a big lego set
[1:06:36] Speaker 2: is divided by bags, so I like, I recently did
[1:06:40] Speaker 2: like a floral arrangement and it was tense bags, right,
[1:06:43] Speaker 2: and so I could like keep the box away and
[1:06:45] Speaker 2: be like, oh, you know what I could do right now?
[1:06:47] Speaker 2: One bag.
[1:06:48] Speaker 3: Oh that's a very contained and.
[1:06:52] Speaker 2: It's very peaceful and zen and fun. And they have
[1:06:55] Speaker 2: like a cool guitar. There's a typewriter. Also, my mom
[1:06:59] Speaker 2: had some health stuff last year, and when I was
[1:07:01] Speaker 2: like sitting at home with her, I did this really
[1:07:03] Speaker 2: elaborate Nintendo set with a like a companion TV with Mario,
[1:07:08] Speaker 2: and it was really fun to like take my brain
[1:07:09] Speaker 2: off of it. So you could do it together. I
[1:07:11] Speaker 2: don't know how your son is probably probably too young
[1:07:13] Speaker 2: to help with a complicated set, but it is kind
[1:07:16] Speaker 2: of a fun. You can do it slowly. You could
[1:07:19] Speaker 2: do a really hard one, like you know, the taj
[1:07:22] Speaker 2: Mahal or something.
[1:07:23] Speaker 3: Put on some music in the background.
[1:07:25] Speaker 2: Chill out, We'll just keep strokes.
[1:07:29] Speaker 3: Get the strokes on vinyl and blast it while you're
[1:07:32] Speaker 3: doing some legos.
[1:07:33] Speaker 2: Okay. And then also I've seen and I keep thinking
[1:07:35] Speaker 2: that I would like these. There's a there's like these
[1:07:38] Speaker 2: drumsticks that are just like they you just like drum
[1:07:41] Speaker 2: in the air and does it make noise? It makes noise,
[1:07:44] Speaker 2: and like I think you can have your headphones on too,
[1:07:46] Speaker 2: And I feel like that's a good like that's a
[1:07:49] Speaker 2: good like physical thing that if you if you feel
[1:07:51] Speaker 2: mad about, like why this happened to me? This is
[1:07:53] Speaker 2: this is dumb that this happened to me, you can
[1:07:56] Speaker 2: give yourself a little like rage it out a little bit.
[1:07:59] Speaker 3: You know, I want those drums. Sounds delightful. Okay, Shoot,
[1:08:02] Speaker 3: I love to air drum. Yeah, I love to air guitar. Wow.
[1:08:06] Speaker 3: Well then I mean I feel like, look, did we
[1:08:08] Speaker 3: miss Christmas? Did we ruin their year?
[1:08:11] Speaker 2: Yes?
[1:08:11] Speaker 3: Absolutely?
[1:08:13] Speaker 2: Have we potentially helped their next year a full year,
[1:08:16] Speaker 2: which is way better than way better. I mean right
[1:08:18] Speaker 2: now we only have we have like fifty sixteen days left.
[1:08:21] Speaker 3: Right if this had been a Christmas one, they would
[1:08:22] Speaker 3: have had like two weeks. Yeah, and then who knows
[1:08:25] Speaker 3: what twenty six is for them?
[1:08:27] Speaker 2: And a lot of those big lego sets are on
[1:08:28] Speaker 2: back order.
[1:08:29] Speaker 3: Oh they are crostillar toilets. The teens, Yes, the teens
[1:08:33] Speaker 3: are loving and me and me, the teens especially are
[1:08:38] Speaker 3: getting the floral design ones.
[1:08:40] Speaker 2: Yeah you know which one? I did a few years
[1:08:42] Speaker 2: ago is amazing. The home alone house.
[1:08:44] Speaker 3: Oh wow, they've really gotten into some crossovers.
[1:08:48] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's beautiful.
[1:08:50] Speaker 3: Does that have little traps?
[1:08:51] Speaker 2: Oh yeah?
[1:08:52] Speaker 3: Does that have an iron slam somebody in the face? Incredible?
[1:08:56] Speaker 2: It has a small lego that is Kevin's plan the
[1:08:59] Speaker 2: battle in.
[1:09:00] Speaker 3: Wow. Does that have a Joe Pesci Yeah?
[1:09:03] Speaker 2: Wow, including the van that they drive in. It's a
[1:09:06] Speaker 2: very special set.
[1:09:08] Speaker 3: Well, we answered the question perfectly, I think, so we
[1:09:10] Speaker 3: can't get any more complaints.
[1:09:11] Speaker 2: Still right back in, Maybe get that set and you
[1:09:13] Speaker 2: can work on it slowly through the whole year and
[1:09:15] Speaker 2: that then it'll take you up to next Christmas.
[1:09:17] Speaker 3: Oh interesting, and then you can surprise him with some
[1:09:19] Speaker 3: other gift. Right back in.
[1:09:20] Speaker 2: Uh huh.
[1:09:22] Speaker 3: Actually again, don't right back in, but think about what
[1:09:24] Speaker 3: we told you. Yeah, yes, we answered the question perfectly.
[1:09:28] Speaker 3: I have this go absolutely gorgeous lime green citrus squeezer,
[1:09:33] Speaker 3: and I've found who I am. The question fish, I'm
[1:09:36] Speaker 3: very passionate and indifferent.
[1:09:40] Speaker 2: The fish was like, could could he be indifferent? And
[1:09:43] Speaker 2: then it's like, actually.
[1:09:44] Speaker 3: No, this guy's an absolute freak. Uh huh, So what
[1:09:49] Speaker 3: do we know. I've had such a lovely time with you.
[1:09:52] Speaker 2: Thank you as well well.
[1:09:54] Speaker 3: Listener, the podcast is over. You know I have nothing
[1:09:58] Speaker 3: left to say to you or the guests, and so
[1:10:01] Speaker 3: you have to stop listening right now. I love you, goodbye.
[1:10:09] Speaker 3: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our
[1:10:13] Speaker 3: senior producer is on Alisa Nelson, and our episodes are
[1:10:16] Speaker 3: beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme song is by
[1:10:20] Speaker 3: miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without
[1:10:23] Speaker 3: our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on
[1:10:27] Speaker 3: Instagram at I said no Gifts, That's where you're going
[1:10:29] Speaker 3: to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting.
[1:10:32] Speaker 3: And don't you want to see the gifts?
[1:10:35] Speaker 2: Lie? Why did you hear?
[1:10:39] Speaker 1: Thot a man? Myself perfectly clear?
[1:10:43] Speaker 2: But you're a guest to me.
[1:10:47] Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests,
[1:10:53] Speaker 1: your presences presents and.
[1:10:57] Speaker 2: I'm already that stuff. So how do you dance to
[1:11:03] Speaker 2: survey me

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