# Ashley Ray Disobeys Bridger

An episode of [I Said No Gifts! A comedy interview podcast with Bridger Winegar](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1499562159), 25 May 2023, 1 h 12 min.

Audio: https://podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/f93205e7-c5a4-44c7-9cc9-b24b013639d4/d11e83cf-a123-47da-9d07-b2760176791e/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=08c966fa-bc75-44f3-80ce-b24b013639ea

Bridger maintains a carefree attitude when Ashley Ray (TV, I Say with Ashley Ray) rudely arrives with a gift. The two discuss jam bands, microchips, and TikTok therapists. Don't forget to review the podcast, it's the least you can do. Follow the show on Instagram I Said No Gifts! Merch Send a Question to I Said No Emails! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:08] Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.
[0:17] Speaker 1: But you're a guest to my home. You gotta come
[0:22] Speaker 1: to me empty, And I said, no, guests, your own
[0:28] Speaker 1: presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So
[0:35] Speaker 1: how do you dare.
[0:36] Speaker 2: To surbey me?
[0:48] Speaker 3: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineker. We're
[0:54] Speaker 3: in the backyard. I believe the garbage trucks are done
[0:59] Speaker 3: for the day. It is garbage day. Believe they've passed
[1:01] Speaker 3: through the neighborhood, so you won't be getting a little
[1:05] Speaker 3: taste of that today. Unfortunately, I'm having an incredible morning,
[1:09] Speaker 3: incredible morning of emailing. What else have I done? I
[1:14] Speaker 3: put on some Christmas socks and thought I was gonna
[1:16] Speaker 3: be able to get away with it, went out in public,
[1:18] Speaker 3: realized I wasn't getting away with it. People could tell.
[1:22] Speaker 3: So I've switched and now I'm at total ease, total
[1:27] Speaker 3: complete ease, and I'm so excited about our guest. Let's
[1:31] Speaker 3: get into the podcast. It's Ashley Ray.
[1:33] Speaker 2: Hello, I'm so happy to be here.
[1:36] Speaker 3: I'm so happy to have you. Welcome to, I said,
[1:37] Speaker 3: no gift.
[1:38] Speaker 2: I am I mean, I just want to say I
[1:41] Speaker 2: am a fan. Oh, you're my favorite. I absolutely love
[1:44] Speaker 2: that you have any man doing her theme. Oh, I've
[1:47] Speaker 2: loved her since I was like a middle schooler, and
[1:49] Speaker 2: it's Lesbian Visibility Week. I feel like that is just
[1:52] Speaker 2: so tied to my identity.
[1:53] Speaker 3: So incredible, Yeah, I mean she is the Queen's Yeah,
[1:57] Speaker 3: the ultimate ultimate person.
[1:59] Speaker 2: I think, just such star amongst the Lilith Fair crowd.
[2:02] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course, of course. Yeah. I feel unbelievably lucky. Yeah.
[2:07] Speaker 3: But it's because she's incredible and the idea of like
[2:10] Speaker 3: I've probably said this on this podcast before she was
[2:13] Speaker 3: able to come up with the song and probably no
[2:15] Speaker 3: time at all. That would have taken me literally a lifetime,
[2:19] Speaker 3: yeah years, How do you write a song?
[2:21] Speaker 2: And she's just like, I'm ammy man, she's brilliant. Do
[2:25] Speaker 2: you play any instruments? I do. I play guitar actually
[2:29] Speaker 2: since I was twelve and I played in jazz band
[2:31] Speaker 2: in high school and then in college. I was like,
[2:34] Speaker 2: I'm not taking this seriously. I'm not trying to be
[2:36] Speaker 2: a musician, right, right, but you can fool around. Yeah yeah,
[2:40] Speaker 2: I can you know, read music, play some tab.
[2:43] Speaker 3: That's I mean more than a lot of professional musicians.
[2:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, I could get by in a jam band. I
[2:47] Speaker 2: would say, like if someone was like, we need Like
[2:50] Speaker 2: if someone if I was sitting here, someone ran into
[2:52] Speaker 2: your backyard, we need a guitarist, I could jump up
[2:55] Speaker 2: and volunteer.
[2:56] Speaker 3: I feel like anyone can get away in a jam band.
[2:59] Speaker 2: I think. I mean no, I mean that is very true.
[3:02] Speaker 2: That is yes.
[3:04] Speaker 3: Actually I'm going to get the jam band audience after me,
[3:06] Speaker 3: and it's a passionate crew.
[3:08] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[3:08] Speaker 3: I look, I'm ignorant of jam bands. I'm just going
[3:12] Speaker 3: off the little I know. When I'm at a concert
[3:14] Speaker 3: and we're jamming, I'm I'm losing patience exactly.
[3:18] Speaker 2: I'm an impatient man. I'm a little like, Okay, you're
[3:20] Speaker 2: playing around. I get it, we get it. Let's wrap
[3:23] Speaker 2: it up. Let's get back to this song that I know.
[3:26] Speaker 2: But again, jam band fans, I love you, we support. Yes,
[3:30] Speaker 2: everyone has their thing, and you obviously have a they've
[3:34] Speaker 2: got bad fish, they're so patient. Yeah, they're nice people. Yes,
[3:38] Speaker 2: I've been to a jam bands. They're nice, lovely. It's
[3:40] Speaker 2: like a little community. It's glad for them. Have you
[3:43] Speaker 2: been to a fish concert? I have, Actually I have
[3:46] Speaker 2: seen Fish eleven times.
[3:50] Speaker 3: That's not am I'm just shitting all over jam bands
[3:55] Speaker 3: and you've been to a total of a thousand hours.
[3:58] Speaker 2: I truly had a very like hippie phase. I feel
[4:03] Speaker 2: like this was two thousand and two thousand and four.
[4:06] Speaker 2: I feel like that was in the the era, like
[4:08] Speaker 2: you know, that was a theme of the day, Like
[4:10] Speaker 2: you opened deely As and it was girls and like
[4:12] Speaker 2: peasant skirts. It was like that vibe. And I had
[4:15] Speaker 2: like Janish Joplin posters on my locker. Wow, And I
[4:18] Speaker 2: was very tied. I pants tight, I shirts everywhere and
[4:22] Speaker 2: went to see fish a lot.
[4:25] Speaker 3: What how long is the typical fish concert?
[4:27] Speaker 2: Oh? I mean if you're getting there for the pregame,
[4:32] Speaker 2: So it starts in the parking lot before the show,
[4:34] Speaker 2: and that's for the dead fish like there usually there's
[4:37] Speaker 2: gonna be like an alley in the parking lot of
[4:40] Speaker 2: like you know, neighborhood jam bands and and your local gestures,
[4:45] Speaker 2: and you know people who are just like swallowing swords
[4:48] Speaker 2: that are on fire and they're just like hanging in
[4:50] Speaker 2: the parking lot. That's a show into itself. That's probably
[4:52] Speaker 2: gonna start it like noon. Then you hang out there
[4:55] Speaker 2: all day. The actual show. They're they're gonna open doors
[4:58] Speaker 2: like six thirty. You're it's like four or five hours,
[5:01] Speaker 2: I feel like, and there's usually not an opener. If
[5:03] Speaker 2: there is, it's like they all just kind of jam together.
[5:07] Speaker 3: Oh wow, fifteen minutes into a concert that starts on time,
[5:11] Speaker 3: I'm ready to go home.
[5:12] Speaker 2: So for this experience to me is and there's people
[5:15] Speaker 2: who don't, who are enjoying the parking lot and they
[5:17] Speaker 2: don't even go inside to the show. Interesting a friend, Yeah, yeah,
[5:20] Speaker 2: I have friends who would be like, oh, we're going
[5:21] Speaker 2: to the fish show today, and we'd get there and
[5:24] Speaker 2: they'd go, oh, no, we don't have tickets. We're here
[5:26] Speaker 2: for the parking lot. Yeah.
[5:27] Speaker 3: We want to be hot in a parking lot.
[5:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to hear it kind of far away,
[5:31] Speaker 2: but just be you know, in the vibe. Okay.
[5:34] Speaker 3: And so when the concert begins, the nature of and
[5:38] Speaker 3: I apologize to truly the planet right now. But I'm
[5:42] Speaker 3: curious about like they start playing. Are you recognizing music
[5:45] Speaker 3: they're playing?
[5:47] Speaker 2: Usually yes, yeah, like you know you they they have tracks.
[5:50] Speaker 3: They draw you in with something familiar.
[5:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, oh, yes, this is farmhouse. Here we
[5:55] Speaker 2: go I farmhouse I'm a fish, fantastic fish. Yes, yes,
[5:59] Speaker 2: that's one of their bigger and you're like, oh, here
[6:01] Speaker 2: we are my song, and then like two minutes in,
[6:05] Speaker 2: something changes, like all of a sudden, there's like a
[6:08] Speaker 2: triangle that shouldn't be there, or a bass is being
[6:11] Speaker 2: slowed down, and you're like, oh no, here we go.
[6:15] Speaker 2: And then it turns into some kind of live jam
[6:17] Speaker 2: band remix with like a new twenty minute solo added,
[6:21] Speaker 2: and you're like, well, it was fun when it started
[6:25] Speaker 2: and here we go.
[6:26] Speaker 3: That's very interesting to me. I mean, maybe I need
[6:28] Speaker 3: to give it a shot.
[6:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I say everyone should give it
[6:33] Speaker 2: a shot. Get there early, go to the hippie alley,
[6:36] Speaker 2: find some acid molly whatever, you know, something probably the candy,
[6:40] Speaker 2: and yeah, dive right in.
[6:42] Speaker 3: I mean, I will say, when I go to a concert,
[6:45] Speaker 3: I appreciate when the musician or band mixes things up
[6:48] Speaker 3: a bit. I don't like to go there and just
[6:50] Speaker 3: hear what I've heard recorded. Yeah why am I doing that?
[6:53] Speaker 2: Yeah? I like something a little fresh. I think Beyonce
[6:55] Speaker 2: is really good at that. She'll like throw in a
[6:57] Speaker 2: little remix, like mix it up. But yeah, I mean,
[7:00] Speaker 2: unless it's.
[7:01] Speaker 3: Like a musical, then that could be interesting musical theater.
[7:06] Speaker 2: You go and they're jamming, and they're just a little
[7:08] Speaker 2: jam You go see a chorus line and they're just like,
[7:10] Speaker 2: we mixed it up this time.
[7:11] Speaker 3: The show is now seven hours long and totally incomprehensible.
[7:16] Speaker 2: I might be into that.
[7:17] Speaker 3: I know, maybe that maybe we found what'll sun an idea.
[7:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, we just say Broadway.
[7:22] Speaker 3: They don't have to put a casino in anymore. No,
[7:24] Speaker 3: have you heard about the casino they may put in.
[7:26] Speaker 3: I've heard a little bit. I've heard angry rumblings people
[7:30] Speaker 3: just the thing, saying it spits in the face of
[7:32] Speaker 3: all that Broadway stands for. And I'm just like, I
[7:36] Speaker 3: don't know, Like, what what about the eminem Store, right.
[7:40] Speaker 2: The eminem Store, the like the Disney restaurant and hard
[7:43] Speaker 2: Rock Cafe. We're all honoring this period of Broadway. Yeah,
[7:47] Speaker 2: the giant foot locker.
[7:48] Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean I hate, I don't like a casino,
[7:51] Speaker 3: but I also am like, do whatever you.
[7:54] Speaker 2: It's it's a part of New York that I think
[7:56] Speaker 2: is beyond having a culture.
[7:58] Speaker 3: That part it's what's I'm sacred about any part of
[8:01] Speaker 3: Times Square.
[8:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's like, I don't know, it'll be
[8:04] Speaker 2: a casino next to like the latest Legally Blonde musical
[8:08] Speaker 2: spin off. I don't know.
[8:10] Speaker 3: Jam band version. That's important, that is very important to it,
[8:15] Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Actually, speaking of Times Square,
[8:17] Speaker 3: this is kind of Time Square adjacent. Everybody, it seems like,
[8:21] Speaker 3: is standing in the way. At this point, I go
[8:23] Speaker 3: out in public, yeah, I cannot go out without someone
[8:26] Speaker 3: being in the way, in the way.
[8:27] Speaker 2: People are in the way, people are in the way.
[8:29] Speaker 2: Is this an after pandemic thing? People don't know where
[8:32] Speaker 2: to be anymore, They don't know how to stand or
[8:35] Speaker 2: where to be around people. I've noticed to this in
[8:37] Speaker 2: grocery stores, just walking like you're walking and people will
[8:40] Speaker 2: just stop and be really so in front of you,
[8:42] Speaker 2: and it's like they don't have that awareness anymore.
[8:45] Speaker 3: They just feel like they're in the living room at
[8:47] Speaker 3: all time.
[8:47] Speaker 2: At all times. And in grocery stores, I've had people
[8:50] Speaker 2: who just will get too close and it's like what
[8:51] Speaker 2: are we doing here? And then or they'll just be
[8:54] Speaker 2: in the way. Like fully, a woman left a cart
[8:56] Speaker 2: right in front of me and just walked away, and
[8:58] Speaker 2: I was like, hey, man, you left your car here.
[9:01] Speaker 3: This makes me feel so good because I've been spiraling
[9:03] Speaker 3: in the last couple of weeks of like maybe it's me,
[9:06] Speaker 3: maybe I'm losing pace.
[9:07] Speaker 2: It's not us.
[9:09] Speaker 3: Couldn't be us, simply, I mean, what was the last
[9:12] Speaker 3: thing I did wrong? You have to go back.
[9:15] Speaker 2: But I just I went to the bike path by
[9:18] Speaker 2: my house, and it's very clear where the fast people
[9:22] Speaker 2: should go and the slow people. There's markings of where
[9:25] Speaker 2: a bike should be, and everyone was in the wrong place.
[9:28] Speaker 2: I just felt like everyone. I was just like, what
[9:30] Speaker 2: are you doing? There's girls falling on roller skates like
[9:33] Speaker 2: in the bike lane, and there's like girls running and
[9:36] Speaker 2: taking like tiktoks where people are trying to walk, and
[9:39] Speaker 2: it's just it's all a mess. It's uh.
[9:41] Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to bring it up, and we should
[9:43] Speaker 3: just say to the listener, pause right now, yeah, and
[9:46] Speaker 3: look around at your surroundings.
[9:47] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[9:47] Speaker 3: Look to your left, to your right, to your back.
[9:50] Speaker 3: Are you in the way?
[9:50] Speaker 2: Are you in the way?
[9:51] Speaker 3: Get out of them? By the way, move Are you
[9:54] Speaker 3: standing in front of the soda fountain? Get out out
[9:56] Speaker 3: of the way.
[9:57] Speaker 2: I went.
[9:58] Speaker 3: I was at home state the taco place recently they
[10:00] Speaker 3: have a water jug or whatever. There's a man just
[10:04] Speaker 3: standing there taking glass after glass of water.
[10:07] Speaker 2: Oh I hate this.
[10:08] Speaker 3: I'm just standing there whiting. He finally turns around and says, Oh,
[10:11] Speaker 3: I'm just really thirsty.
[10:13] Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think the rest
[10:15] Speaker 2: of us are doing here? It's infuriating. I had a
[10:18] Speaker 2: similar experience at Salazar. It's, you know, mostly like a
[10:22] Speaker 2: walk up bar experience, some tables. I'm in the bar
[10:26] Speaker 2: area and there was a group, like a party group
[10:29] Speaker 2: that was waiting to be seated. They all were like, well,
[10:31] Speaker 2: wait at the bar, we'll order drinks. And there's an
[10:33] Speaker 2: empty standing table where they could convert the but they
[10:36] Speaker 2: stay right in front of the bar at the one
[10:39] Speaker 2: area where like the bartenders can get to you, and
[10:42] Speaker 2: they don't move, and everyone is coming up like are
[10:44] Speaker 2: they in line? Are we? And I'm just saying like
[10:46] Speaker 2: they're not. They ordered, There is no lie. They're just
[10:49] Speaker 2: just disrespecting the natural order of how this should work.
[10:52] Speaker 3: And then when you ask to get in your the
[10:54] Speaker 3: root and then I'm rude.
[10:55] Speaker 2: Yeah I'm rude because I was giving them looks like.
[10:57] Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, it's too much for me. It's absolutely
[11:02] Speaker 3: too much. Thank you for validating my feeling.
[11:05] Speaker 2: I feel it, and I feel like I've been experiencing
[11:07] Speaker 2: it a lot. My car got stolen like a month
[11:09] Speaker 2: ago at this point, so I have been walking a
[11:12] Speaker 2: lot and people get in your way when you walk,
[11:14] Speaker 2: they get in the way a lot.
[11:16] Speaker 3: People get it in your way in the car.
[11:18] Speaker 2: True. True, but let's I mean you're talking.
[11:20] Speaker 3: You bring up your car being stolen, So we have
[11:22] Speaker 3: to just jump into this. Yeah, to walk me through
[11:25] Speaker 3: what happened. I mean, I had COVID, so I was
[11:29] Speaker 3: in the house. Yeah, I'm I'm like in quarantine. At
[11:34] Speaker 3: the same time, I have a drop like a garage
[11:37] Speaker 3: parking spot that has a door that closes. Sure, but
[11:40] Speaker 3: it was broken like it was when we had all
[11:41] Speaker 3: that rain, so like the censor had been like flooded
[11:44] Speaker 3: and it was stuck up. So I was just like whatever,
[11:47] Speaker 3: my landlord says, they're gonna fix it. I'm not gonna
[11:49] Speaker 3: worry about this. I'm quarantining. I'm not leaving the house anyway.
[11:53] Speaker 3: Like day four of my quarantine, I go to take
[11:56] Speaker 3: my trash out and my car just isn't in the
[11:58] Speaker 3: karate and I'm just like, maybe I parked on the
[12:04] Speaker 3: street and I just don't remember. And I'm looking and
[12:06] Speaker 3: I'm like, it's not on the street. And I text
[12:08] Speaker 3: my neighbors and I'm like, hey, so, when's like the
[12:10] Speaker 3: last time you saw my car in the garage And
[12:12] Speaker 3: they're like, I don't know, maybe Friday.
[12:14] Speaker 2: At this point, it's Monday, and I hadn't left the house,
[12:17] Speaker 2: so I had no way of knowing when it was
[12:19] Speaker 2: like taken or when it was gone. I call the
[12:22] Speaker 2: police and they're just like, that's not helpful. You provided
[12:26] Speaker 2: zero information. What You're just like, oh, you parked it
[12:30] Speaker 2: in your garage Wednesday and you noticed it was missing Monday,
[12:36] Speaker 2: Like you're very responsible car owner, ma'am. And I'm just
[12:38] Speaker 2: like no, I'm explaining like I had.
[12:40] Speaker 3: COVID, but you could have been on vacation.
[12:42] Speaker 2: People cars, you know. And the police truly did not care.
[12:50] Speaker 2: All they really let me know was that if they
[12:52] Speaker 2: did find it, I did have parking tickets that I
[12:54] Speaker 2: would have to pay to get the car. Oh god what.
[12:58] Speaker 2: They pulled the record up and they were like, mam,
[12:59] Speaker 2: you have like three parking tickets in West Hollywood. Because
[13:02] Speaker 2: I don't recognize that, I don't I choose not to
[13:05] Speaker 2: recognize you shouldn't. Yeah, no, no, West Hollywood, I don't
[13:08] Speaker 2: know what. You're just a scam.
[13:10] Speaker 3: I mean, there are way too many parking rules in LA.
[13:14] Speaker 2: Forget it, I forget it. Just passing through. Yeah, okay,
[13:17] Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? Well, now, I know if
[13:19] Speaker 2: they your car gets stolen, they will eventually be like,
[13:21] Speaker 2: you have got to pay those.
[13:23] Speaker 3: So we're sure it wasn't towed.
[13:25] Speaker 2: Yes, they checked like all the toe yard things and
[13:28] Speaker 2: like check with the police. And then two weeks I
[13:32] Speaker 2: think later, they found like my back bumper and some
[13:36] Speaker 2: of the stuff that was inside my car, just like
[13:38] Speaker 2: on the street. And they said, because of all the
[13:40] Speaker 2: rain we were getting that people were stealing cars just
[13:43] Speaker 2: to like sleep in them. Oh interesting, Yeah, because it's
[13:45] Speaker 2: you know, better than a tent in the rain. So
[13:48] Speaker 2: they were like, it might turn up, you might get
[13:50] Speaker 2: lucky and someone's just like been camping in it for
[13:52] Speaker 2: a bit. And I was like, okay, I'll hold out
[13:53] Speaker 2: hope like that. Okay, you know, I honestly don't mind that.
[13:57] Speaker 3: But this is the thing. You don't want to find
[13:58] Speaker 3: your car after someone's been care You just want the
[14:00] Speaker 3: insurance to say for the story. I just want the
[14:02] Speaker 3: insurance to get the car back after somebody's probably used
[14:05] Speaker 3: it as a bathroom.
[14:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, and a shot. You know, then you have to
[14:08] Speaker 2: drive around at that point, just keep it to you.
[14:10] Speaker 2: It's yours, it's your house, it's your house, it's yours.
[14:13] Speaker 2: It's fine. My insurance will take care of it. But
[14:16] Speaker 2: I have been using just a mix of like uber
[14:19] Speaker 2: and like you know, get around rental cars walking. I
[14:24] Speaker 2: don't understand LA without a car. Honestly, it can be
[14:27] Speaker 2: a rough time. I do.
[14:28] Speaker 3: I will walk, but I feel like people are worried
[14:31] Speaker 3: about me. When I'm walking long distances. I feel like
[14:34] Speaker 3: cars are passing me, like that's somebody who's up to something. Yeah,
[14:37] Speaker 3: because nobody's ever.
[14:38] Speaker 2: Doing Yeah, no one's ever walking. And I feel like
[14:40] Speaker 2: they're like, if you're not running, like you're exercising, what
[14:43] Speaker 2: are you doing? What's your scam?
[14:44] Speaker 3: And I simply won't be running. Yeah, so if you
[14:47] Speaker 3: if I can't saunter, I won't be doing anything, not
[14:50] Speaker 3: at all. So does your is your insurance covering the car?
[14:53] Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh so it's that's all taken care of, but
[14:55] Speaker 2: it's slow. They had to wait for the police to
[14:58] Speaker 2: be like reinvestigated it's just it's gone, which I think
[15:02] Speaker 2: was just the cops being like, we looked around in
[15:04] Speaker 2: our garage and we didn't see a yellow hond to
[15:07] Speaker 2: fit there. So I love my I love that car,
[15:11] Speaker 2: and it's so tiny it doesn't get in the way.
[15:13] Speaker 3: I know. It's such a great car's perfect.
[15:16] Speaker 2: Love it. Yeah, if they're listening, please sponsor me give
[15:18] Speaker 2: me a new one for free. Maybe, But the cops
[15:22] Speaker 2: were just kind of like, yeah, we did our best,
[15:24] Speaker 2: didn't find it. So then my insurance was like, okay,
[15:26] Speaker 2: we'll send you a check. But now I'm just kind
[15:28] Speaker 2: of like test driving lots of cars to really see
[15:31] Speaker 2: if I want to get something different, just get another
[15:34] Speaker 2: hond to fit, you know. I'm taking my time with it.
[15:36] Speaker 2: Are you feeling?
[15:37] Speaker 3: What's that you been your experience at car dealerships, because that,
[15:40] Speaker 3: of course is also changed because of the car shortage.
[15:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, my friends were all like, oh, Ashley, you can
[15:47] Speaker 2: just do it online now. You much as well. They
[15:49] Speaker 2: were like, you just go online and you order a
[15:51] Speaker 2: car and they bring it to your house, and that's
[15:53] Speaker 2: how we do things.
[15:53] Speaker 3: Now because well, if you go to the car dealership,
[15:56] Speaker 3: these salespeople have been emboldened a way.
[15:58] Speaker 2: That's I feel like the last time I went I
[16:01] Speaker 2: mean the car that I had, I did get out
[16:03] Speaker 2: a dealership because they lured me in with some sort
[16:06] Speaker 2: of like Memorial Day saale and they were like at
[16:10] Speaker 2: the time, I was working at Google, and they were
[16:12] Speaker 2: like Google employees, get a discount if you come in.
[16:15] Speaker 2: And I did all that, and then by the time
[16:16] Speaker 2: I was leaving, they were like, well, actually you have
[16:18] Speaker 2: to pay this like tire fee blah blah blah. And
[16:20] Speaker 2: I was like, with all of this, I saved no money.
[16:23] Speaker 2: The tire fee took it up. What's the tirefee. I
[16:25] Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. They did have to drive
[16:28] Speaker 2: it from Massachusetts or from Michigan because I really wanted
[16:31] Speaker 2: the yellow I was specific about that. I was a
[16:33] Speaker 2: little picky. I can't get picky with car colors. I
[16:37] Speaker 2: don't want to I can be picky with car colors.
[16:39] Speaker 2: I was truly like, this is my you know, I
[16:42] Speaker 2: saved up like first real money car job. And I
[16:45] Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna be picky. I'm gonna get something nice.
[16:48] Speaker 2: And then it got stolen. So don't do that, listeners,
[16:50] Speaker 2: don't do that. Don't follow your dreams. When it comes
[16:52] Speaker 2: to her about any just don't care. I wish I'd
[16:54] Speaker 2: gotten like a beaten up two thousand and three whatever,
[16:57] Speaker 2: and just.
[16:58] Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, how long had you had it for?
[17:00] Speaker 2: I'd had it for four years, which and it was
[17:04] Speaker 2: just like a few payments from like being paid off,
[17:06] Speaker 2: truly being like mine and the bumper still had the
[17:10] Speaker 2: license plate show. Yes it's still. So they were like,
[17:13] Speaker 2: and they had thrown out some of my stuff, did
[17:16] Speaker 2: not care about. They actually did find this bag which
[17:20] Speaker 2: I used to bring your gift in, which says hard
[17:23] Speaker 2: for Bernard the Santa Claus. Yes, from the Santa Claus. Yes,
[17:28] Speaker 2: that is so. They the police recovered this from the
[17:31] Speaker 2: vehicle and made sure I got it back.
[17:33] Speaker 3: That's a hard thing to get back.
[17:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they were like, they were like, they
[17:37] Speaker 2: had your bumper this. There were some like just like
[17:41] Speaker 2: papers that I had in my car, I like scripts
[17:44] Speaker 2: from like sides from like callbacks and stuff that were
[17:47] Speaker 2: just like scattered around, I guess. And then they found
[17:53] Speaker 2: one of like a pair of high heel shoes that
[17:55] Speaker 2: I loved my car because.
[17:57] Speaker 3: This person had no interest in going out for auditions
[18:00] Speaker 3: or they.
[18:01] Speaker 2: Were like, oh, I could make a buck selling the
[18:04] Speaker 2: latest Damon Wayne's script somewhere. It's a hotscript. It's a
[18:08] Speaker 2: hot script. People, just the wifelines.
[18:13] Speaker 3: Do you know what I was going to ask, Well,
[18:15] Speaker 3: this is what I'm curious about. Why are we not
[18:17] Speaker 3: microchipping cars like we microchip pets?
[18:19] Speaker 2: Right? Are we microchipping cars? And so? Shouldn't someone know
[18:23] Speaker 2: where it is? I feel like every time Google is
[18:26] Speaker 2: like your cars parked here, I feel why doesn't Why
[18:29] Speaker 2: doesn't Handa be like it here? Is it a fear
[18:31] Speaker 2: of surveillance? I guess so? And I do think. At
[18:34] Speaker 2: one point in my insurance they were like, you can
[18:36] Speaker 2: opt into this thing where we can always see where
[18:39] Speaker 2: you are, how fast you're driving, if you're breaking too fast,
[18:42] Speaker 2: and if you're a good driver, we'll give you extra
[18:44] Speaker 2: money off. And I was like absolutely not.
[18:47] Speaker 3: No.
[18:48] Speaker 2: I also didn't know that meant if my car got stolen,
[18:50] Speaker 2: they could do nothing to locate it. Wow.
[18:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, the microchip, I guess would I be on board
[18:57] Speaker 3: with it? It's hard to tell. I mean, do you
[19:00] Speaker 3: get a personal microchip?
[19:01] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[19:02] Speaker 3: Where do we get personal micro.
[19:03] Speaker 2: Chip that's basically a cell phone? Right?
[19:05] Speaker 3: Or like a tile?
[19:06] Speaker 2: Is that what those things are called, like a little tile. Yeah,
[19:09] Speaker 2: I wonder if that works in a car. Yeah, I
[19:11] Speaker 2: should have one in my car. I know they work
[19:13] Speaker 2: with my luggage, so I yeah, that's true. Yeah, okay,
[19:17] Speaker 2: I'm going to look into that. You know. I I'm adapting.
[19:20] Speaker 2: I'm living this La no car life and.
[19:24] Speaker 3: It's and you're in West Hollywood, so I'm in Silver Lake.
[19:28] Speaker 2: That's walkable. Yeah, like they're walkable. Silver Lake is okay.
[19:31] Speaker 2: But I'm a comic, so you know I go to
[19:34] Speaker 2: like Hollywood, Santa Monica, yeah, for shows. And that's when
[19:37] Speaker 2: it's just like, oh, this is impossible.
[19:40] Speaker 3: You know I've heard about the little micro bus or whatever.
[19:43] Speaker 3: If you heard about this, it's like a dollar a ride.
[19:45] Speaker 3: That's like now somewhere between a bus and an uber.
[19:47] Speaker 2: I know, nothing.
[19:48] Speaker 3: Seem very disinterested.
[19:51] Speaker 2: I just like when my car got stolen, a friend
[19:54] Speaker 2: was like, well the bus, and I was just like,
[19:56] Speaker 2: what are you saying to me? Not to I just
[20:00] Speaker 2: I've never ridden. I'm gonna be that person. I've never
[20:03] Speaker 2: written public transportation. And I did take the train one
[20:10] Speaker 2: time from like not far from Santa Monica to Santa Monica,
[20:14] Speaker 2: just because a friend was like, you know, you can
[20:16] Speaker 2: take the train, and I was like, oh, the train.
[20:20] Speaker 3: The Train's a different story. In La, it is a
[20:22] Speaker 3: little like it really does feel like you're underground in
[20:26] Speaker 3: a way that's not good. Like whereas like the New
[20:29] Speaker 3: York subway or whatever, it's like I can get out
[20:32] Speaker 3: of this situation. In La, it's like I'm in a dungeon.
[20:35] Speaker 2: I'm in a yeah and too deep and I know
[20:38] Speaker 2: this isn't this isn't safe.
[20:40] Speaker 3: Earth, right, and no one knows I'm here, Yeah.
[20:42] Speaker 2: And it's I don't like it, so I know, I
[20:46] Speaker 2: know that's bad. And I'm not a real Los Angelino
[20:49] Speaker 2: until I get on a bus, I know.
[20:51] Speaker 3: But get on the micro bus or whatever it's called
[20:54] Speaker 3: micro rides.
[20:55] Speaker 2: Had a car when I moved here. It just never
[20:57] Speaker 2: came up. But it just.
[21:00] Speaker 3: Well, a best of luck to you with this attitude.
[21:02] Speaker 2: I mean, I'm it's for seeing me to grow and
[21:06] Speaker 2: change in new ways and I'm embracing it.
[21:08] Speaker 3: I'm happy for your journey and you need to thank
[21:11] Speaker 3: that car thief.
[21:11] Speaker 2: Yeah. Ultimately, ultimately, I'm happy I'm becoming more in tune
[21:16] Speaker 2: with my neighborhood and my community.
[21:19] Speaker 3: Well, Ashley, I mean you already brought it up, so
[21:21] Speaker 3: we might as well get into it. Here. The podcast
[21:24] Speaker 3: is called I said no gifts. Yes I was, you know,
[21:27] Speaker 3: I started the podcast on a very high note. I
[21:29] Speaker 3: sent a bunch of emails this morning. I made the
[21:32] Speaker 3: decision to get out of a pair of socks that
[21:34] Speaker 3: I wasn't feeling great about.
[21:35] Speaker 2: And ners socks now amazing. Thank you.
[21:37] Speaker 3: Oh yes, this is actually a decent sock. Thank you mom.
[21:41] Speaker 3: I think she bought these marshals, so good for these socks.
[21:45] Speaker 3: But you know, I was feeling great, feeling incredible. The
[21:49] Speaker 3: coffee was hitting in a nice way, and then.
[21:52] Speaker 2: You show up. I'm showing a gift, a gift.
[21:56] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's now in a like a blue, gorgeous blue bag.
[21:59] Speaker 3: Yeahs where it came from?
[22:00] Speaker 2: Which yeah? Yeah, I mean, I will say as I
[22:03] Speaker 2: brought the bag that the cops returned to me, which
[22:06] Speaker 2: is what I had it in. And you see, I
[22:08] Speaker 2: my family, we don't do gifts. I've grown up in
[22:11] Speaker 2: a culture of like gifts are for children, and once
[22:15] Speaker 2: you hit eighteen, you don't get gifts. I can't remember
[22:18] Speaker 2: the last time like I really received a gift.
[22:21] Speaker 3: From anyone or just family wise, like.
[22:23] Speaker 2: Family and my friends because they know that, I think
[22:26] Speaker 2: they'll they know that I'm more of like an experienced person.
[22:29] Speaker 2: They'll be like, oh, we took Ashley to dinner. We
[22:31] Speaker 2: got her you know, we went on this trip, versus
[22:33] Speaker 2: like we got her a gift. So I don't know,
[22:38] Speaker 2: and I truly try, but I do get a lot
[22:41] Speaker 2: of like media gifts because I have like a podcast
[22:44] Speaker 2: about TV's so all, you know, around Christmas, it'll be like, oh,
[22:49] Speaker 2: TLC had me in their thoughts and they sent me
[22:52] Speaker 2: a robe and some notebooks, you know. But part of
[22:56] Speaker 2: it was that my mom, like by the time I
[22:58] Speaker 2: hit nineteen, she was just like, I don't know, here's
[23:00] Speaker 2: socks in some sheets and it wasn't even wrapped. It
[23:03] Speaker 2: would just be like, oh, you know yeah, And so
[23:06] Speaker 2: to me it was like the gift, it's all a
[23:09] Speaker 2: lot of pomp and circumstance, Like we know, this is
[23:11] Speaker 2: just a cultural agreement. You know, let's put away the charade.
[23:16] Speaker 2: Let's like lower the curtain. You want the thing, here's
[23:19] Speaker 2: the thing. I go to a housewarming, Am I gonna
[23:22] Speaker 2: wrap the bottle of wine? No? You know that I'm
[23:24] Speaker 2: bringing this because it's what we're supposed to do. So
[23:27] Speaker 2: I just threw it in a bag. Which is how
[23:30] Speaker 2: all my friends have ever gotten gifts for me? Is
[23:32] Speaker 2: they just like she throws it in a bag, and
[23:34] Speaker 2: then she's gonna be like, give me the bag bag.
[23:37] Speaker 3: I think that's a healthy attitude.
[23:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, So to me, it's I you know, it's what
[23:41] Speaker 2: matters is how useful it is, right and the item,
[23:45] Speaker 2: you know, the packaging that you know, that's.
[23:48] Speaker 3: The cover that look beyond that. So gifts are for children,
[23:52] Speaker 3: and they're all for show. They're useless, they're pointless. This
[23:56] Speaker 3: podcast is for children. It's useless.
[23:58] Speaker 2: It's pointless. You say, no gift. See See, it's like
[24:01] Speaker 2: you would like to just up like let's just be
[24:04] Speaker 2: real about it. Let's be real, let's be real. But
[24:07] Speaker 2: it's I know what you're doing, but.
[24:08] Speaker 3: No one, no one's not gonna catch me.
[24:11] Speaker 2: See it's a test, it's a test of the social order.
[24:15] Speaker 2: Will you still bring the gift? Even if it will ever? See?
[24:20] Speaker 2: Should I open it here on the podcast? I think
[24:22] Speaker 2: you should. I think there are multiple items, there's multiple
[24:43] Speaker 2: items I'm going to reach. Should they come out in
[24:46] Speaker 2: any specific world? No? No, Because I felt like I
[24:49] Speaker 2: as a as a TV person. You know, that's my
[24:52] Speaker 2: big passion. I wanted to gift you with an experience, wonderful, yes,
[24:57] Speaker 2: of creative experience.
[25:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking forward to this. I mean, the first
[25:04] Speaker 3: thing I can actually tell I can rarely tell. I'm
[25:06] Speaker 3: holding a baseball cap.
[25:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, holding it out. I've got the bill in my hand. Yes.
[25:10] Speaker 2: Oh what does this say?
[25:12] Speaker 3: It's a it's a khaki baseball cap that says, hey, baby,
[25:15] Speaker 3: what's your moon sign?
[25:16] Speaker 2: What's your moon sign? What is happening with this hat?
[25:19] Speaker 2: I believe that hat came from a TV show, a
[25:23] Speaker 2: reality show where they tried to match people based on
[25:26] Speaker 2: their zodiac. It lasted a beautiful one season, fourteen minutes,
[25:32] Speaker 2: a beautiful just fourteen minutes. But not before they could
[25:35] Speaker 2: send me this beautiful cap and immediate.
[25:37] Speaker 3: Kid, wow, this is I'm gonna just put it on now.
[25:40] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[25:40] Speaker 2: And I think it helps you feel that creativity, that flow.
[25:43] Speaker 2: It helps to open up the mind. Yeah.
[25:45] Speaker 3: I ran on the back it says struck. Is that
[25:47] Speaker 3: what it was called?
[25:48] Speaker 2: Maybe? Perhaps? And how much of the show did you see? Uh?
[25:52] Speaker 2: You know they did they give me access to pilots? Yeah?
[25:57] Speaker 2: Did I watch it?
[25:58] Speaker 3: It crossed your mind.
[25:59] Speaker 2: It did. I've heard great things, which is a.
[26:02] Speaker 3: Lot more than other shows. I mean, some shows have
[26:04] Speaker 3: never even crossed my mind.
[26:06] Speaker 2: I don't even know they exist. They've never sent me
[26:08] Speaker 2: a hat.
[26:09] Speaker 3: And you can at least kind of explain the basic
[26:11] Speaker 3: premise of this show, yes, which is more than I
[26:14] Speaker 3: can do with shows.
[26:15] Speaker 2: I watched exactly something with zodiac and signs and dating.
[26:21] Speaker 3: Are you a big zodiac person? Are you into the
[26:24] Speaker 3: I am.
[26:24] Speaker 2: I think that was one of the reasons they like
[26:26] Speaker 2: plugged me with the stunt so because they were like, oh,
[26:28] Speaker 2: she talks about that on you know, her socials, So
[26:32] Speaker 2: I do know, like Mercury's in retrograde right now? I
[26:35] Speaker 2: know my natal chart. Yeah, I always have a general
[26:38] Speaker 2: sense of where the planets are. What's your son? You know,
[26:40] Speaker 2: I'm a Sagittarius, Scorpio, rising aries moon Libra here.
[26:44] Speaker 3: I can't tell you anything else. A friend gave me
[26:47] Speaker 3: as a gift at one point, a whole birth chart reading.
[26:52] Speaker 2: You know, Libra is all about the pomp and circumstances
[26:54] Speaker 2: are all about the outer beauty. Now I see, Now,
[26:57] Speaker 2: I see. I should have wrapped the gifts if I
[27:00] Speaker 2: knew I was If I knew I was with a libra,
[27:01] Speaker 2: would have made it look pretty.
[27:03] Speaker 3: See, wow, we need to start sending that that information
[27:06] Speaker 3: out on this that should be in the emails. First thing.
[27:08] Speaker 3: Bridger's a Libra.
[27:10] Speaker 2: I mean then I would have made it gorgeous. Okay,
[27:13] Speaker 2: that like okay.
[27:15] Speaker 3: Wow, okay, so you are into the whole thing. Do
[27:18] Speaker 3: you get tarot done?
[27:19] Speaker 2: I do? Yeah. I can read cards, so usually like
[27:24] Speaker 2: I'll pull a daily card for myself, just something like
[27:27] Speaker 2: meditate on. But like like once every three months, I
[27:31] Speaker 2: go to a professional. There's a lovely girl on Melrose
[27:34] Speaker 2: that I go see. She has a wonderful little store,
[27:37] Speaker 2: and you know, she tells me what's going on. She
[27:39] Speaker 2: helps me get refocused, realigned, tells me what candle I
[27:43] Speaker 2: should give her money for, and it's great.
[27:47] Speaker 3: I love the ASIMR experience of it. I do feel
[27:50] Speaker 3: very cradled when someone's doing my tarot.
[27:53] Speaker 2: It's never hurt me, so it's like, yeah, pay like
[27:55] Speaker 2: you know, not yet, but I pay the eighty done.
[27:58] Speaker 2: I'm just like I feel better like it's hurting you.
[28:00] Speaker 2: Every three months well, I mean she uses three different decks.
[28:04] Speaker 2: It's very like, you know, interesting, Yeah, okay, full experience.
[28:09] Speaker 2: Did you pull a card today? I did? I did.
[28:12] Speaker 2: What did it have to say? Today's card? It was
[28:16] Speaker 2: the High Priestess? Okay, which I which is always means
[28:19] Speaker 2: a lot to because I actually have that one tattooed.
[28:21] Speaker 2: So anytime I get that card, I'm like, oh wow, goodness,
[28:24] Speaker 2: that's what's what's what's the world trying to tell me?
[28:27] Speaker 2: You know? What does?
[28:27] Speaker 3: What is the value of the high priests?
[28:29] Speaker 2: High priestess usually means listen to your intuition, your inner self, like,
[28:33] Speaker 2: trust your gut, what is it telling you? And then
[28:37] Speaker 2: do that? And yeah, I mean I don't really know
[28:40] Speaker 2: how it applies today today, not yes, yes, but it
[28:44] Speaker 2: could come up. Something's gonna happen and I'm gonna go
[28:46] Speaker 2: what what should I do?
[28:47] Speaker 3: Yeah, You're going to be like what should I eat
[28:49] Speaker 3: for dinner?
[28:49] Speaker 2: Oh?
[28:50] Speaker 3: I feel like that? Yeah, and then you'll go for that.
[28:52] Speaker 2: Follow the gut. It's just the in just knowing to.
[28:54] Speaker 3: You'll be able to make the decision.
[28:56] Speaker 2: Making the decision. Oh maybe I'll.
[28:58] Speaker 3: Try that today, try to make a decision without thinking
[29:01] Speaker 3: for three hours.
[29:02] Speaker 2: Yeah. And a lot of that intuition is how I
[29:04] Speaker 2: put your gift together to.
[29:05] Speaker 3: Okay, well, following my cuts, I've got my cap on.
[29:10] Speaker 3: I'm gonna dip back into the bag.
[29:13] Speaker 2: Let's see here.
[29:15] Speaker 3: Okay, this was like, it's two no items.
[29:18] Speaker 2: These are these are two notebooks. As I said, I
[29:20] Speaker 2: wanted to inspire a creative journey. I know, as creatives
[29:24] Speaker 2: we need, you know, the the ability to express ourselves.
[29:28] Speaker 2: A notebook. It can be so good for that. So
[29:30] Speaker 2: I've given you a notebook from Made for Love, the
[29:33] Speaker 2: HBO show kind of a dark comedy as far as
[29:38] Speaker 2: I it's a dark comedy that was canceled.
[29:41] Speaker 3: It's been canceled. Yeah, after two seasons. I remember they're
[29:46] Speaker 3: being too.
[29:46] Speaker 2: Good, wonderful on HBO Max and they they sent me
[29:50] Speaker 2: this beautiful media kit that had this notebook that just
[29:54] Speaker 2: makes you think and is open and just blank for
[29:59] Speaker 2: your design an expression.
[30:01] Speaker 3: This is confidential all over it just Made for Love.
[30:04] Speaker 3: I could write my love thoughts, your love thoughts, your
[30:08] Speaker 3: it's it's you know. And then the other notebook is
[30:11] Speaker 3: from the company Zell. And I received this at a
[30:16] Speaker 3: talk that Mindy Kaaling did for Zell.
[30:20] Speaker 2: Big Zell. She is she is, But I wanted to
[30:22] Speaker 2: give you that girl boss energy, so that you know,
[30:25] Speaker 2: when I have open mind, I'm ready to budget. And
[30:29] Speaker 2: so that's what I Yeah, you know.
[30:30] Speaker 3: I could use this for budgeting for budget, yes, yes,
[30:33] Speaker 3: do you know what? I've heard a few people recently
[30:35] Speaker 3: refer to this company as zelly and I don't have
[30:38] Speaker 3: the heart.
[30:38] Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
[30:40] Speaker 3: No, no company in twenty twenty three is calling it
[30:44] Speaker 3: is going to rhyme with jelly.
[30:47] Speaker 2: LLL. What do they call it? The magazine Ellie?
[30:50] Speaker 3: Like, oh, interesting, that should be my follow up question. Yeah,
[30:52] Speaker 3: do you read Ellie? Yes, that's but then that's how
[30:55] Speaker 3: you get called. What's the difference, Like, what are the
[30:58] Speaker 3: differences between zell and Venmo?
[31:00] Speaker 2: Are you bell? I mean Venmo I prefer Venmo to
[31:04] Speaker 2: me is like the Starbucks of the you know, Cayman
[31:08] Speaker 2: app world. If cash app is like the dollar tree
[31:13] Speaker 2: or dunkin Donuts, you know, like yeah, oh, cash app
[31:17] Speaker 2: is for the people who are like I don't have
[31:18] Speaker 2: a bank account, but I have.
[31:20] Speaker 3: A cash Interesting, Okay, that makes sense.
[31:22] Speaker 2: It's like very android userka Venmo.
[31:25] Speaker 3: The Android user. I'm I mean, I'm on your side.
[31:28] Speaker 3: I'm on the cash app user side.
[31:32] Speaker 2: I have ASP and I and I love it and
[31:34] Speaker 2: I use it. But let's be real, it's a run
[31:37] Speaker 2: to taco bell. Yeah, you know, but venmos flashy, it's classy.
[31:40] Speaker 2: It's in all the apps like already, like you can
[31:43] Speaker 2: pay with Venmo. It's right there. Everybody's got it. Everybody's
[31:46] Speaker 2: got it, you know. But and when someone doesn't, you're
[31:48] Speaker 2: kind of like, what's that? What happened there? Why don't
[31:51] Speaker 2: you have it? What? Okay? And then Zell to me
[31:54] Speaker 2: feels very boring. She's very like parental. It's like connected
[31:58] Speaker 2: to your bank account. You get into your bank account
[32:01] Speaker 2: in order to sell people, and it requires like an
[32:04] Speaker 2: email or phone number, which isn't very fun, right, So
[32:07] Speaker 2: I only use it. I feel like it's the one
[32:09] Speaker 2: you use for like moms.
[32:10] Speaker 3: It's a very new construction condo. Yeah, it's for.
[32:13] Speaker 2: The people like the boomers who are like I want
[32:16] Speaker 2: to make sure that the money goes to my you
[32:18] Speaker 2: know address, and they want it linked to the bank
[32:20] Speaker 2: account instead of just like in the Venmo money.
[32:23] Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. I feel like Venmo ultimately is
[32:25] Speaker 3: the most satisfying. Yeah, are you doing a And I
[32:30] Speaker 3: I hope that the answer to this is the one
[32:32] Speaker 3: I want to hear. Are you doing a public transaction
[32:35] Speaker 3: on Venmo? No, okay, that's what I wanted to hear.
[32:38] Speaker 3: Why does anyone in.
[32:40] Speaker 2: Anyone do that? Why have you not changed the setting?
[32:42] Speaker 2: Why do you not? I always make sure to check
[32:45] Speaker 2: any transaction is it private? Is it just? Why would
[32:49] Speaker 2: I need anyone to see anything I'm doing on Venmo?
[32:51] Speaker 2: I don't understand it, even paying my rent? I'm like,
[32:54] Speaker 2: that's disgusting. Why would I want people to see this.
[32:57] Speaker 3: I'm not doing like nefarious things that I hidden. I'm
[33:00] Speaker 3: just like, why does anyone need this information?
[33:02] Speaker 2: Ever? And it always surprises me with like people I
[33:05] Speaker 2: don't want to see, like whose numbers I forgot are
[33:07] Speaker 2: in my phone? And then I'm opening in it and
[33:09] Speaker 2: it's like, oh, a man you dated for a month
[33:11] Speaker 2: three months ago, like you know, paid for comedy tickets
[33:15] Speaker 2: at the store tonight, And it's like, why do I
[33:16] Speaker 2: need to know that?
[33:17] Speaker 3: It's almost entirely people you never want to hear from
[33:19] Speaker 3: again never.
[33:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's just like, oh, great, I'm glad that
[33:22] Speaker 2: he forced his friend to split the bill for popcorn
[33:25] Speaker 2: at a movie. He was always so cheap.
[33:27] Speaker 3: Like yes, yeah, I think I mean standing in people's
[33:31] Speaker 3: way and being out there on the public Venmo circuit.
[33:36] Speaker 3: Both of those things. People need to correct their behavior immediately, immediately,
[33:39] Speaker 3: get with that in any way. It's embarrassing.
[33:41] Speaker 2: It's embarrassing, it's it's gross.
[33:44] Speaker 3: Shouldn't be an option.
[33:45] Speaker 2: It shouldn't. I don't know why Venmo still thinks people
[33:48] Speaker 2: want this right. Let me ask you. Are you on Spotify?
[33:51] Speaker 2: I am?
[33:52] Speaker 3: Is your player public?
[33:55] Speaker 2: It is? But I did not realize it was until
[33:58] Speaker 2: actually somewhat recently. I don't know if you're familiar with
[34:01] Speaker 2: Daisy Jones in the sixth.
[34:02] Speaker 3: Oh frienda I mean, yeah, I'd like to hear a
[34:05] Speaker 3: friend had some interesting things to say about the show.
[34:08] Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, it is absolutely just like wild fan fiction.
[34:12] Speaker 2: It's like some adult was like, I want to write
[34:14] Speaker 2: a show about Fleetwood Mac, but that's illegal. I can't
[34:18] Speaker 2: get the rights to that, so I'll do something so close.
[34:21] Speaker 2: And then Amazon Prime was like, we love that idea.
[34:24] Speaker 2: Here's eighty million dollars. Go crazy, And I at first
[34:28] Speaker 2: was just like, this is silly. It's the slowest show.
[34:31] Speaker 2: And by episode four I was like, this is amazing.
[34:33] Speaker 2: It's an everything I've ever wanted in television. I want
[34:36] Speaker 2: a million episodes My Life is Empty without Daisy Jones.
[34:39] Speaker 2: In the six I've been listening to It's about a
[34:43] Speaker 2: band that is based on Fleetwood Mac. And then in
[34:45] Speaker 2: the real world they did release the album full album,
[34:48] Speaker 2: the full album Aurora that the band creates in the show.
[34:52] Speaker 2: It was released in the real world and I have
[34:55] Speaker 2: been listening to it non stop for date, like I
[34:58] Speaker 2: am obsessed with it.
[35:00] Speaker 3: Is it like fleet Fleetwood Mac cosplays like basically like.
[35:04] Speaker 2: And critics were like, this just sounds like B side
[35:07] Speaker 2: Fleetwood Mac songs and I was like, yeah, those are good,
[35:11] Speaker 2: like like Fleetwood Mac was a good band and they
[35:13] Speaker 2: were able to replicate a band.
[35:15] Speaker 3: There's no good the level of quality is b side
[35:18] Speaker 3: Fleetwood Mac. It maybe Ai generated Fleetwood Mac.
[35:23] Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, I know a few Daisy Jones
[35:28] Speaker 2: heads are listening because we roll deep and I'm just
[35:30] Speaker 2: gonna say that, like Aurora to like to like let
[35:35] Speaker 2: Me Down Easy, the Beatles didn't even have a run
[35:38] Speaker 2: like that, Okay, I'm I straight up tell people they
[35:41] Speaker 2: were a real band now, because I'd rather I'd rather
[35:45] Speaker 2: gaslight the world than myself. Like I've been talking to
[35:47] Speaker 2: men and I'm just like Oh you said you were
[35:49] Speaker 2: into classic rock, but you don't know Daisy Jones in
[35:51] Speaker 2: the six they were huge. They released one mega album
[35:54] Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy nine and were never heard from again.
[35:57] Speaker 3: Wow, who was actually writing the music? I know they
[36:02] Speaker 3: did an it's like an answer.
[36:05] Speaker 2: Yes, a songwriter named Blake Mills. But it's okay. Phoebe
[36:09] Speaker 2: Bridgers actually did like write for like I guess helped
[36:12] Speaker 2: him write a couple of songs. But credit it's like
[36:15] Speaker 2: a weird war around it. But yeah, she's involved in someone.
[36:18] Speaker 2: She was involved and did some.
[36:19] Speaker 3: Stuffy the studio one day.
[36:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, she and like I think a Mumford or son,
[36:23] Speaker 2: like a Mumford son I'm running. I mean, like they
[36:28] Speaker 2: just help to reach the Fleetwood Mac Viress is straight
[36:33] Speaker 2: up just like Fleetwood Mac, like AI mimicking it. Like
[36:38] Speaker 2: you listen to it and you're like, oh, this is
[36:40] Speaker 2: their version of the Chain, and it's just like fine,
[36:43] Speaker 2: this is great. I love it.
[36:44] Speaker 3: I mean, okay, I'm gonna give it a shot. But
[36:46] Speaker 3: then why am I not just listening to the chain.
[36:48] Speaker 2: So eventually you get to that point you listen to
[36:51] Speaker 2: the album so much that you're just like, you know,
[36:52] Speaker 2: what's good just listening to actual Fleetwood Mac Like, wow,
[36:56] Speaker 2: Aurora is so great, but you know what also if
[36:58] Speaker 2: I just listened to rumors.
[37:00] Speaker 3: Okay, so you've been listening to it a ton on
[37:03] Speaker 3: Spotify and friends reaching out and so yeah, that.
[37:05] Speaker 2: Is how friends were like, Ashley, do you know we
[37:07] Speaker 2: can see that you're listening to the album from Daisy
[37:11] Speaker 2: Jones in the six Like we thought it was a
[37:13] Speaker 2: bit because I kept talking about it, like on Twitter,
[37:16] Speaker 2: I like fully changed my name to like Ashley Ray Honeycomb,
[37:19] Speaker 2: which is a little Daisy Jones reference. It got you, yeah,
[37:23] Speaker 2: and there's a little reference. And my friends like, we
[37:25] Speaker 2: thought you were just like joking, But we open Spotify
[37:29] Speaker 2: and it's like every three hour it's like Ashley Ray's
[37:33] Speaker 2: listening to Aurora. And I was just like I need
[37:35] Speaker 2: to change that. I need to turn this setting off
[37:38] Speaker 2: because I guess that's embarrassing because they're not a real
[37:42] Speaker 2: band and it's an album for children.
[37:46] Speaker 3: I mean, I can't I can't be the judge of
[37:48] Speaker 3: any of these things yet. I mean I tend to
[37:51] Speaker 3: lean that way, but it shouldn't be embarrassing. You shouldn't
[37:54] Speaker 3: be embarrassed of what but I've I've hidden what I'm
[37:56] Speaker 3: listening to because I don't ever want to think about
[37:58] Speaker 3: what if somebody sees that.
[38:00] Speaker 2: And now I realize I should have hidden it. I mean,
[38:02] Speaker 2: I'm not ashamed. I'm a proud fan of Daisy Jones
[38:04] Speaker 2: in the six and that album, but it is embarrassing.
[38:08] Speaker 3: It's the musical where it's just like people could be
[38:11] Speaker 3: seeing at any time.
[38:12] Speaker 2: And I see like other people I can't see some
[38:15] Speaker 2: friends who still share their and they're all like listening
[38:17] Speaker 2: to like cool stuff I've never heard of before that
[38:19] Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, like that's Ice Spice. She's cool, she
[38:24] Speaker 2: is cool, she's very cool. But then I'm just like
[38:26] Speaker 2: what they're supposed to see me listening to like Stephen
[38:28] Speaker 2: Sondheim and Aurora.
[38:30] Speaker 3: Like, but they may that might all be calculated on
[38:33] Speaker 3: their part. They may be in their little prison where
[38:34] Speaker 3: they're like I've got to pick the best.
[38:36] Speaker 2: The best and like show people. I'm but I'm with it.
[38:38] Speaker 2: Their life is a living hell exactly, and I opt out.
[38:41] Speaker 3: And you're in there with Daisy Jones and the six
[38:44] Speaker 3: band name. I mean, that's not even close to Fleetwood
[38:47] Speaker 3: mac Well.
[38:49] Speaker 2: I mean, that is a whole part of that is
[38:52] Speaker 2: a whole part of the story is they have another name.
[38:54] Speaker 3: There's like, interesting, what's the other name.
[38:57] Speaker 2: It's like they're the guy's last name, kind of how
[38:59] Speaker 2: like Fleetwood comb their names or something or something. Yeah,
[39:03] Speaker 2: and so their original name is like the Something Brothers. Okay,
[39:07] Speaker 2: well but and then they're like, well, we should change
[39:09] Speaker 2: to the six even though there's only five of them.
[39:12] Speaker 2: It's interesting, I'm smelling the pilot now.
[39:15] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[39:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, well see, you would think that's the pilot. But
[39:18] Speaker 2: the show moves so slowly that it's not until like
[39:21] Speaker 2: episode five that they're like, we should call ourselves the six.
[39:25] Speaker 2: And it's not until like episode eight that they're like,
[39:27] Speaker 2: and hey, guys, we want you to meet Daisy Jones.
[39:31] Speaker 2: It is the slowest show in the world. Wow.
[39:34] Speaker 3: I hope they get a second season. Otherwise you are
[39:36] Speaker 3: going to be crushed.
[39:37] Speaker 2: Oh I'm crushed already. It's like the when the finale aired,
[39:40] Speaker 2: I haven't been the same person.
[39:41] Speaker 3: But how do you sustain a show? I mean people
[39:43] Speaker 3: are gonna expect a full other album. Yeah, with another
[39:46] Speaker 3: series please.
[39:48] Speaker 2: It is based on a book, so it is like, well,
[39:50] Speaker 2: we know what happens, but the book and the show are.
[39:54] Speaker 2: It's a fake documentary. And what people love about the
[39:58] Speaker 2: show is that it's set in like the seventies. You
[40:01] Speaker 2: see them talking about the seventies, but it's set in
[40:03] Speaker 2: like the nineties. Oh, in them in the future. But
[40:06] Speaker 2: they chose to do this thing where they don't age anyone.
[40:09] Speaker 2: Oh interesting, everyone just looks the same. But then they
[40:12] Speaker 2: kind of put some gray in their hair. Boy, and
[40:16] Speaker 2: it's like, was this a budget issue aging though? No?
[40:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, otherwise they're in like grotesque grotesque, and.
[40:24] Speaker 2: So they just chose to be like, you know what,
[40:25] Speaker 2: let's just make some of their hair a little longer.
[40:28] Speaker 2: And you're looking at them in the past and it's
[40:30] Speaker 2: supposed to be like they're eighteen, but it's the same
[40:33] Speaker 2: actress playing like seventeen year old Daisy Jones and modern
[40:36] Speaker 2: day Daisy Jones. And it's amazing and it's beautiful and
[40:39] Speaker 2: I love it.
[40:40] Speaker 3: So it just completely disorienting. Yeah, oh wow, well, uh,
[40:44] Speaker 3: Daisy Jones in the sixth.
[40:46] Speaker 2: You know you could actually you should put that on
[40:47] Speaker 2: while you use these notebooks to just like write about
[40:50] Speaker 2: your day, just like put on some Aurora and just
[40:53] Speaker 2: is there a song I should start with Oh my gosh,
[40:56] Speaker 2: look at us now is probably my favorite. Look at
[40:59] Speaker 2: us now, Honeycomb Aurora. The you know, titular track is
[41:03] Speaker 2: also very good. Let me down easy, uh regret me?
[41:10] Speaker 2: That one? Is that?
[41:12] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a cutting track.
[41:14] Speaker 2: Oh it is? It is? You know how there's a
[41:15] Speaker 2: story in Fleetwood Mac about how he like wrote these
[41:17] Speaker 2: songs that are basically like so they mimic that exactly
[41:23] Speaker 2: in the show because it is, like I said, just
[41:25] Speaker 2: Fleetwood macfan fiction int and the lead guy has her
[41:29] Speaker 2: saying this show that's like, oh, you only like kissing me,
[41:32] Speaker 2: like it's better to miss me, and it's very like edgy.
[41:37] Speaker 3: Oh, I will see how I feel.
[41:40] Speaker 2: I think we know how I'm going to feel. Give
[41:42] Speaker 2: it if you like Smash on NBC.
[41:44] Speaker 3: I never watched Smash.
[41:46] Speaker 2: That's what other people didn't. Yeah, but that those two.
[41:49] Speaker 3: Where people are like, it's extremely boring and expensive, but there's.
[41:53] Speaker 2: A lot of and for some reason I can't stop
[41:54] Speaker 2: watching it.
[41:56] Speaker 3: Okay, I'm grabbing into the bag again, seeing something here.
[41:59] Speaker 2: It's a leather so this is a laptop case. This
[42:03] Speaker 2: is interesting and it says email is hard.
[42:05] Speaker 3: I've been talking about emails already on the podcast.
[42:08] Speaker 2: And they're hard and they said, and so this is
[42:11] Speaker 2: a little this is nice, Yeah, girl boss, it is
[42:14] Speaker 2: from the wonderful show Hacks.
[42:16] Speaker 3: I mean this is HBO budget.
[42:17] Speaker 2: Then, yes, this is It's like a laptop container. Yeah,
[42:22] Speaker 2: like a laptop container traveling. It doesn't fit any laptop,
[42:26] Speaker 2: I owe, But like I said, it's it's inspiring of
[42:32] Speaker 2: this creative journey.
[42:33] Speaker 3: That I wanted to take you on laptop. We're going
[42:36] Speaker 3: to try.
[42:37] Speaker 2: I think it's going to fit. Oh this is nice,
[42:39] Speaker 2: Oh my god, very nice. I know.
[42:41] Speaker 3: I'm not fully on board with saying I'm gonna have
[42:43] Speaker 3: to get Yeah, the scratch.
[42:44] Speaker 2: Thing where it's like I would have preferred maybe just
[42:46] Speaker 2: the hack slogo or something.
[42:48] Speaker 3: It's just like a kind of anodyne, innocuous, just we
[42:53] Speaker 3: don't need a.
[42:53] Speaker 2: We don't need to. It's very live left love for
[42:57] Speaker 2: a millennial. Yeah, it's very like millennial live left love.
[43:01] Speaker 2: But you know, inspiring for the inner girl boss.
[43:06] Speaker 3: I'm always chasing my inner girl Boss. I'm going to
[43:10] Speaker 3: catch up to her one day and then I'm going
[43:11] Speaker 3: to make it in business, makeing it.
[43:14] Speaker 2: And she's gonna turn and say emails aren't that hard
[43:17] Speaker 2: and she's gonna and then she's gonna type And that's
[43:19] Speaker 2: that's what I wanted to get do with. Did you
[43:22] Speaker 2: watch the show girl Boss? I did? That?
[43:25] Speaker 3: Was that on Netflix?
[43:27] Speaker 2: I watched it binged it in like a day. If
[43:31] Speaker 2: you're not familiar, it is about the rise of the
[43:33] Speaker 2: woman who started the company nasty Gal. Okay, right, yes,
[43:37] Speaker 2: this is a which like a thousand years away. Yeah,
[43:40] Speaker 2: a thousand years away, And that's one point. Nasty Gal
[43:43] Speaker 2: was like the most exciting store you could buy clothes
[43:45] Speaker 2: from and now it's like owned by Walmart and no
[43:48] Speaker 2: one cares. But like, at a point, it was like
[43:50] Speaker 2: the it fashion thing. And it shows like her rise
[43:55] Speaker 2: to that, which was basically her going to thrift stores,
[43:57] Speaker 2: buying stuff and reselling it at a higher price. And
[44:00] Speaker 2: it is the thrilling story of her doing that. And
[44:05] Speaker 2: it's basically like halfway through you think it kind of
[44:08] Speaker 2: feels like everyone just kind of looks at each other like, wait,
[44:10] Speaker 2: why is this a show?
[44:11] Speaker 3: And no, remind me was it was the title officially
[44:15] Speaker 3: hashtag girl boss? Or am I imagined basically.
[44:18] Speaker 2: This hashtag girl But I do believe it was that
[44:21] Speaker 2: period of time when the hashtag was being used in
[44:24] Speaker 2: a title. It's hard to admit these days, we don't
[44:26] Speaker 2: like to tell people that, but there was a time
[44:29] Speaker 2: you would just a full network streaming platform, cable channel
[44:34] Speaker 2: would put a hashtag in front of a front of
[44:36] Speaker 2: a title.
[44:37] Speaker 3: Oh boy, I feel like I would actually have a
[44:39] Speaker 3: great time watching that show now, because there's no way
[44:42] Speaker 3: that's an age twelve.
[44:43] Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. I mean I think at the time
[44:46] Speaker 2: I kind of remember being like, this is a bit
[44:49] Speaker 2: too pass because it's trying to capture that like indie
[44:52] Speaker 2: sleeze era. Oh right, and there hasn't been any media
[44:56] Speaker 2: that's done that well catching sleezes sleeezes.
[44:59] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of in the air on the bathroom
[45:03] Speaker 3: floor and don't capture.
[45:05] Speaker 2: Still capture, And it was just a bit too clean cut.
[45:08] Speaker 2: It wasn't vice enough.
[45:11] Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense to me. It was a corporate
[45:13] Speaker 3: sleeve which doesn't work.
[45:15] Speaker 2: It doesn't work. It was just didn't get it. But
[45:18] Speaker 2: I do think it would probably make for a fun
[45:19] Speaker 2: drinking game.
[45:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, maybe I'm going to dive into that's
[45:23] Speaker 3: my new show. I'm going to be recommending the hashtag girls.
[45:27] Speaker 2: I feel like I wouldn't be shocked if that's one
[45:29] Speaker 2: of those shows. Netflix was like, we just took it off.
[45:33] Speaker 3: Yeah that makes sense. Well I like that. I actually
[45:37] Speaker 3: this and once I get rid of the email is hard.
[45:40] Speaker 3: I'm on the go with this.
[45:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, but the email that's you know the motivation, right? Yeah?
[45:47] Speaker 3: Is your laptop screen filthy?
[45:49] Speaker 2: It is? Mine is? Why is it so disgusting? I
[45:53] Speaker 2: don't know what happens that so much gets on it.
[45:57] Speaker 2: I tried one of those like screen things that people
[45:59] Speaker 2: like put this on it, but that was just annoying
[46:01] Speaker 2: and it made it hard to see. So I whip.
[46:03] Speaker 3: I just took it off and now it's Yeah, and
[46:05] Speaker 3: I've tried cleaning it, and I think it's made the problem. Yeah, exponentially, get.
[46:09] Speaker 2: Those wipes and you know, but maybe with this case.
[46:13] Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the outside be kind of clean or something,
[46:15] Speaker 3: then I'll be able to crack it open and the
[46:16] Speaker 3: inside will be absolutely discussed.
[46:18] Speaker 2: It's in a very difficult email.
[46:22] Speaker 3: I've talked about this on this podcast before, but I
[46:25] Speaker 3: think the new thing is using the chatbot to write
[46:27] Speaker 3: your emails for it.
[46:28] Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I actually recently had a writing gig where
[46:31] Speaker 2: they encouraged me to use chatpot. It was for this
[46:35] Speaker 2: weed company and they hired me to write like weed
[46:39] Speaker 2: shows for a weed streaming channel that I will not
[46:45] Speaker 2: name because it's not out and who knows if it
[46:46] Speaker 2: ever will be. It's very like Quibbi weed. It's like
[46:50] Speaker 2: they wanted to be like the weed Quibbi and they
[46:53] Speaker 2: hired me to like write shows and content and I
[46:55] Speaker 2: would do that and then they would go, you know,
[46:57] Speaker 2: we want to see what the robot would do, and
[47:00] Speaker 2: they and I would just be like, okay, well then
[47:03] Speaker 2: I don't know why you hired a person. And the
[47:05] Speaker 2: guy who ran the company was truly just like inputting
[47:08] Speaker 2: in the chat GPT like stone or recipe show that
[47:12] Speaker 2: will attract like ages nineteen to twenty four. What was
[47:16] Speaker 2: coming out of it? Oh, just the dumbest things you'd
[47:19] Speaker 2: ever imagine. It would really just be like here's a
[47:22] Speaker 2: perfect outline for a weed show that would like and
[47:24] Speaker 2: it would just be like, you should have a young
[47:26] Speaker 2: woman host who's like attractive, You should have her like
[47:30] Speaker 2: introduce like strain heavy and specific because you know young
[47:33] Speaker 2: boys and weed like when it's like this is you know,
[47:35] Speaker 2: percent baby like and just like absolute like nonsense and
[47:41] Speaker 2: made up like facts in some of the stuff where
[47:43] Speaker 2: they would just be like, and everybody knows Joe Rogan
[47:47] Speaker 2: like loves to smoke this before he blah blah blah.
[47:50] Speaker 2: And I was like, is that true? I just like,
[47:54] Speaker 2: can we say that is that true? Do we know
[47:56] Speaker 2: that Joe Rogan loves to like smoke on wedding cake
[47:59] Speaker 2: before he hits the UFC ring. I don't know if
[48:01] Speaker 2: that's true.
[48:03] Speaker 3: So what it was producing is the truly the goal
[48:06] Speaker 3: to be like, now we're producing this thing.
[48:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, and they would they would like it just reached
[48:10] Speaker 2: a point where they were like creating chat GPT scripts
[48:13] Speaker 2: and having me edit them to make sense and like
[48:15] Speaker 2: fact check it. And then I would come back and
[48:18] Speaker 2: be like, here's me trying to make sense of this
[48:21] Speaker 2: here stuff that is stolen from like magazine articles or
[48:25] Speaker 2: books that you probably can't use. And then they would
[48:28] Speaker 2: just kind of be like, well, yeah, who's gonna search
[48:30] Speaker 2: and see that we stole that line from something else?
[48:34] Speaker 3: Attorneys, Yes, that's the.
[48:37] Speaker 2: People who are paid to do that as a job.
[48:39] Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, yeah, maybe Joe Rogan, if you keep slandering
[48:43] Speaker 2: him with your jazz, that's true.
[48:45] Speaker 3: Here comes Joey I found a weakness with the chatbot recently.
[48:49] Speaker 3: I thought this would be a really easy thing for
[48:51] Speaker 3: it to do. It's like it could help me like
[48:54] Speaker 3: find fun new songs from different eras or whatever. It
[48:57] Speaker 3: was like, yeah, tell me so like this sort of
[48:58] Speaker 3: song from nineteen ninety eight. It would send me fifty songs.
[49:01] Speaker 3: Four of them would be from nineteen ninety eight and
[49:03] Speaker 3: then the rest are from truly any era.
[49:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not working. It's not working. Yeah. I would
[49:09] Speaker 2: try to do useful things and just be like, oh,
[49:12] Speaker 2: give me a bio of Like I did a piece
[49:15] Speaker 2: on Monique and her new special and I was like,
[49:17] Speaker 2: just give me like a quick bio of Monique.
[49:20] Speaker 3: It's the same thing you got for Joe Broke.
[49:21] Speaker 2: Yeah. It truly was just like made up stuff. Didn't
[49:24] Speaker 2: have like where she was actually born. It was like, oh, actually,
[49:28] Speaker 2: we only can tell you about her life up until
[49:30] Speaker 2: like twenty nineteen. That's all our software, right, and then
[49:33] Speaker 2: she just stops existing. Well they're not even using the
[49:36] Speaker 2: real facts, the real facts. It was just like and
[49:38] Speaker 2: her parents were teachers.
[49:40] Speaker 3: Yeah that's it. She's a very public figure. Yeah, I
[49:42] Speaker 3: should be able to find.
[49:43] Speaker 2: It just should be easy for it to just be like,
[49:45] Speaker 2: here's some stuff about Monique and her latest thing, and
[49:48] Speaker 2: I was just like what I could just go read.
[49:50] Speaker 3: Wikipedia, fascinating, what a piece of garbage. Well that makes
[49:53] Speaker 3: me feel better about our futures for a minute.
[49:55] Speaker 2: It's not taking our future. It's still about humans, us
[50:00] Speaker 2: humans writing.
[50:01] Speaker 3: Yes, the songs, Yes, the important things. Is there anything
[50:07] Speaker 3: left in this bag?
[50:08] Speaker 1: Or right?
[50:08] Speaker 2: There are actually like three more things I got in here.
[50:12] Speaker 3: There's another baseball carries another We're gonna switch caps mid yes,
[50:18] Speaker 3: mid stream here Now it's his documentary plus.
[50:20] Speaker 2: Yes, this is a cap for the streaming platform documentary plus. Oh,
[50:25] Speaker 2: I bet that's a good streaming platform. It is. They
[50:27] Speaker 2: have free documentaries.
[50:28] Speaker 3: Oh, free documentary documentary. So have you watched any documentaries
[50:33] Speaker 3: on it?
[50:34] Speaker 2: I have a few. They They had one that I
[50:36] Speaker 2: did that was called Finders Keepers and it's about this
[50:39] Speaker 2: man who had a drug problem. He overdosed and lost
[50:42] Speaker 2: his foot. They had to amputate it. Uh yeah, Oh,
[50:46] Speaker 2: and he mammifies his foot and like a barbecue tin,
[50:51] Speaker 2: he leaves it in a garage. It gets sold off
[50:54] Speaker 2: and a guy buys his foot and basically is like
[50:56] Speaker 2: I'm keeping it and the guy's like, we'll give it back,
[50:59] Speaker 2: and he's like, no finder keepers.
[51:00] Speaker 3: And what ends up happening? Who ends up getting Well,
[51:02] Speaker 3: don't spoiler, I.
[51:03] Speaker 2: Don't want to go watch. Yeah, and you can watch
[51:05] Speaker 2: it for free on.
[51:06] Speaker 3: Documentary Wow, this has really become paid content, you know.
[51:09] Speaker 2: I mean, which just gifts from my house that means
[51:12] Speaker 2: much so much to me, from the media companies that
[51:15] Speaker 2: care about me. Uh and you know, send me gifts.
[51:18] Speaker 3: We're marketing teams. Their plan has finally worked out. It's like, yeah,
[51:22] Speaker 3: it was a long journey, a long journey. Some of
[51:24] Speaker 3: our shows have been canceled, but they're now being talked about.
[51:27] Speaker 2: It would not actually tell you if this app still
[51:28] Speaker 2: exists or has gone the way of Quiby a Boy,
[51:31] Speaker 2: But if it's still.
[51:32] Speaker 3: Out there Documentary Plus, I'm going to check you out.
[51:36] Speaker 2: But you know, to inspire you along this journey to
[51:38] Speaker 2: create Yeah, you know, to see more of the human
[51:41] Speaker 2: experience with documentary Plus.
[51:42] Speaker 3: And this is this one to me feels a little
[51:45] Speaker 3: bit easier to wear in public. Yeah, it's not like
[51:47] Speaker 3: kind of picking up with the baby.
[51:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, that one's a little addressed.
[51:52] Speaker 3: That's for a sexier outing for me. Yeah, this is
[51:55] Speaker 3: when I'm at the live.
[51:56] Speaker 2: It's very cool. And I think at one point they
[51:58] Speaker 2: posted a picture of Katie Perry it too, So that's.
[52:03] Speaker 3: That's Katie watches document Yeah kat Watch is interesting, right? Okay,
[52:07] Speaker 3: which do you think I look better?
[52:09] Speaker 2: I like the documentary class that has like this nice
[52:11] Speaker 2: little pop of pink that really goes Okay, I'm not
[52:14] Speaker 2: seeing something else. And here's Made for this Isn't Made
[52:17] Speaker 2: for Love candle? Oh do you know what it smells like? Oh,
[52:20] Speaker 2: it's really nice. It's like a vanilla ish. Uh oh,
[52:23] Speaker 2: that's a pleasant can, really nice candle. It's not a
[52:27] Speaker 2: it's not overbearing right, nice clean sense. It's a nice, clean,
[52:30] Speaker 2: pretty scent, you know. So you can light it, you
[52:33] Speaker 2: can set a mood, you can write just see. Like
[52:36] Speaker 2: I said, there's a creative experience and journey this gifts.
[52:39] Speaker 3: So yeah, what was like? What was how does this
[52:41] Speaker 3: tie into Made for Love? Isn't that show about?
[52:44] Speaker 2: Actually?
[52:44] Speaker 3: I have no idea.
[52:46] Speaker 2: It's about like a fake Google company that like has
[52:49] Speaker 2: ai that like takes over people's brains. Okay, so that
[52:53] Speaker 2: like if someone loves you, they can be like I
[52:55] Speaker 2: want to merge our brains in our every thought. And
[52:57] Speaker 2: this guy is like, that's a good idea for love.
[52:59] Speaker 2: But then this other woman that everyone else is like, no,
[53:01] Speaker 2: like because people should have privacy. And then but a candle,
[53:07] Speaker 2: I don't know, actually.
[53:08] Speaker 3: A clear tie in.
[53:10] Speaker 2: It's a a clear, clear tie in. But for the
[53:13] Speaker 2: you know, with the notebooks lighting the candle, maybe it
[53:17] Speaker 2: makes the emails less hard. It's all an experience.
[53:21] Speaker 3: I'm going to try to utilize every one of these
[53:22] Speaker 3: objects at once. Oh please, I have a complete mental breakdown.
[53:26] Speaker 2: And and I mean the last one. I think there's
[53:28] Speaker 2: one more.
[53:30] Speaker 3: Oh, it's kind of a little like jewelry boxy box. Yes, yes,
[53:35] Speaker 3: this is where we begin to be engaged.
[53:38] Speaker 2: Let's stay here.
[53:39] Speaker 3: I'm opening oh.
[53:40] Speaker 2: Gorgeous, gorgeous little diamond jewel necklace that came to me
[53:48] Speaker 2: from a media kit for a CW show that I
[53:51] Speaker 2: don't know, maybe was based on like Pretty Little Liars
[53:53] Speaker 2: or something, I don't know, some TV show where like
[53:55] Speaker 2: there's a girl who has a necklace and she ends
[53:58] Speaker 2: up dead and this is a version of that necklace.
[54:02] Speaker 3: Well, it's a gorgeous necklace. I would kill for this
[54:04] Speaker 3: thing exactly.
[54:04] Speaker 2: I just had to host one hundred and fifty episodes
[54:06] Speaker 2: of a podcast to get it exactly. I'm gonna and
[54:09] Speaker 2: so it's based on this young girl and uh, it's
[54:13] Speaker 2: it's a replica. I don't know the name of the
[54:15] Speaker 2: show on Atlas.
[54:17] Speaker 3: We put this on me on Alys is gonna Yes, wow,
[54:19] Speaker 3: I feel so.
[54:20] Speaker 2: It's gorgeous. It's it's a little and it's very like
[54:23] Speaker 2: because this is a show about teens, it's the CW.
[54:25] Speaker 2: So it is very like a teen esque.
[54:28] Speaker 3: Yes, it looks like a Claire's product.
[54:29] Speaker 2: Yes, it is very like a giant just butterflies.
[54:33] Speaker 3: Oh, it's a joker.
[54:35] Speaker 2: Actually, I want to it's kill you.
[54:38] Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be able to. I don't know if.
[54:40] Speaker 2: It's a joker, if it's meant for like a teenage girl.
[54:44] Speaker 3: Teenage TV blugger or something. Yeah, it fits, but it
[54:47] Speaker 3: is there is.
[54:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely gonna be some like seventeen year old
[54:51] Speaker 2: out there who's very very jealous that you have the
[54:54] Speaker 2: necklace from like Ghost Spirits High or something. Wow, And
[54:59] Speaker 2: what is this little thing? It's a it's like a butterfly,
[55:01] Speaker 2: butterfly little she's a little butterfly. It looks like.
[55:03] Speaker 3: Wow, I feel so elegant, honestly look altogether but a
[55:09] Speaker 3: unique look. No one will be able to get this
[55:11] Speaker 3: exact look anywhere.
[55:12] Speaker 2: No, no, unless they are very very close with the
[55:15] Speaker 2: PR departments of c W, t LC and HBO Max.
[55:20] Speaker 3: I need to get on these mailing lists for these
[55:22] Speaker 3: shows garbage.
[55:23] Speaker 2: There are the gifts that people give me and I
[55:25] Speaker 2: and I love it as I don't get gifts in life,
[55:28] Speaker 2: but these you're getting all sorts of things, you know,
[55:30] Speaker 2: are the gifts that what were the most valuable thing,
[55:33] Speaker 2: like most useful thing you've actually gotten from this actually
[55:38] Speaker 2: made for love that was a gigantic media case you retail.
[55:42] Speaker 2: They sent me an or ring which is basically like
[55:45] Speaker 2: a fitbit ring that like tracks your heartbeat and your
[55:48] Speaker 2: calories and everything. Yeah, they're very expensive, and they gave
[55:51] Speaker 2: it to me in like a free year subscription. Uh.
[55:54] Speaker 2: And they gave me this like one of those projector
[55:56] Speaker 2: starlights for your room that like does the ASMRX experience.
[56:01] Speaker 2: Those were like the.
[56:01] Speaker 3: Most that's fancy. They have the money budget, yeah, pour
[56:07] Speaker 3: it into everything. The hacks budget was also very good.
[56:09] Speaker 3: They gave me like shot glasses, a bottle of like whiskey.
[56:12] Speaker 2: Do they all say email it is hard, yes?
[56:15] Speaker 3: Is that true?
[56:15] Speaker 2: No? Some of them weren't even word There was like
[56:18] Speaker 2: a pillow that said, like, uh, scream.
[56:21] Speaker 3: Here, and I was like, I can't imagine the people
[56:25] Speaker 3: behind hacks are happy with with the There's no chance.
[56:30] Speaker 2: It didn't line up with what I show, but it,
[56:34] Speaker 2: you know, it was very girl boss energy.
[56:37] Speaker 3: It's yeah, I mean beyond, but I'm I'm happy to
[56:41] Speaker 3: own it. This is my new persona. I'm the girl
[56:43] Speaker 3: Boss exactly. It's going to stand in my.
[56:45] Speaker 2: Way at the end of the day. That is what
[56:46] Speaker 2: I wanted this gift to represent, is that girl boss
[56:49] Speaker 2: believe in your self energy. I have, yes, right, budget it,
[56:55] Speaker 2: write it, and achieve it. The email is hard. Send
[56:58] Speaker 2: it anyway?
[57:01] Speaker 3: Oh millennial dialogue? Do you know what I think? I
[57:05] Speaker 3: don't know if it's millennials or gen Z, but I
[57:08] Speaker 3: think iconic is gen Z's.
[57:10] Speaker 2: Literally yes, yeah, does that make sense? I think it
[57:13] Speaker 2: feels like it lines up. Millennials did literally ruined literally,
[57:17] Speaker 2: we ruined literally literally I literally you know, and they
[57:20] Speaker 2: are just iconic. It's chic, She's iconic, and it's like, really.
[57:23] Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting way we just grind words into dust, like.
[57:27] Speaker 2: I've gone out looking like shit, and I'm on some
[57:30] Speaker 2: you know, comedy lineup with like a twenty three year
[57:32] Speaker 2: old who's just like Carob, you like iconic, and I'm
[57:34] Speaker 2: just like, I don't we don't need to patronizing me.
[57:36] Speaker 2: What's going on?
[57:38] Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I have so many gifts for my future breakdown.
[57:42] Speaker 3: I'll be wearing two hats, my choker, I'll have the candle,
[57:45] Speaker 3: and I'll be writing in two different notebooks. I'll do
[57:47] Speaker 3: my drafts of my emails in the note.
[57:49] Speaker 2: In the notebooks. Transfer yes, chat GPT, have it chat,
[57:54] Speaker 2: have it, do it, go through and that makes it
[57:56] Speaker 2: a little easier. And then you have the energy of
[57:59] Speaker 2: the ghosts. Girl Necklace and Daisy Jones had a deafening volume.
[58:03] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you get Aurora playing and let me
[58:06] Speaker 2: you get stuff done. It's such a good album, though
[58:10] Speaker 2: I know that people keep saying it's fake and chill,
[58:13] Speaker 2: but it's really good.
[58:14] Speaker 3: I'm so curious now people.
[58:17] Speaker 2: My friends, it's like kids Bob music. It's not. It
[58:19] Speaker 2: is like adult music. It's just a fake band.
[58:23] Speaker 3: I wonder how that would have reviewed had it been
[58:25] Speaker 3: just released into the wild without the TV show.
[58:27] Speaker 2: The TV show and I think it would have gotten
[58:30] Speaker 2: like ten out of ten on Pitchfork, and I think
[58:31] Speaker 2: it would have been like the biggest thing in the
[58:33] Speaker 2: world and everyone would have been like, oh my god,
[58:35] Speaker 2: we're shocked. But people want to hate just because it
[58:37] Speaker 2: comes from a TV show.
[58:38] Speaker 3: That was Amazon's big mistake. They should have released that
[58:40] Speaker 3: before the show came out, exactly. Put the feathers out there. Yeah, okay,
[58:45] Speaker 3: it's time to play a game. Yes, we're gonna play
[58:47] Speaker 3: a game called Gift to a Curse. I need a
[58:48] Speaker 3: number between one and ten from you.
[58:51] Speaker 2: Eight.
[58:51] Speaker 3: Okay, I have to do some light calculating right now.
[58:53] Speaker 3: You can recommend, promote, do whatever you want with the microphone.
[58:57] Speaker 2: Well, if you like all of this TV talk, feel
[58:59] Speaker 2: free to listen to podcast TV I say with Ashley Ray,
[59:02] Speaker 2: where I talk about most of the shows that send
[59:04] Speaker 2: me media kids and shows that don't send me media
[59:06] Speaker 2: kids even you know, if it's good enough, and I
[59:09] Speaker 2: talk a lot about Daisy Jones and the Six, which
[59:13] Speaker 2: again I just I'm glad you at least had heard
[59:16] Speaker 2: of it. It's a really good album. I mean, if
[59:18] Speaker 2: they're my friends, like, you're not even gonna listen to it?
[59:20] Speaker 2: In a few months. Guess what, I'm still listening to it.
[59:23] Speaker 2: I was listening to it on the drive here. It
[59:25] Speaker 2: just it's it sounds like Fleetwood mac Blea sides. I
[59:28] Speaker 2: don't know why we're mad about that. That's yeah. Wow,
[59:31] Speaker 2: oh interesting.
[59:33] Speaker 3: We did not expect the Uh, Daisy Jones, tous Daisy Jones,
[59:38] Speaker 3: you owe both of us. Yeah, Daisy Jones herself should
[59:42] Speaker 3: come on the podcast, honestly.
[59:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing, amazing gifts.
[59:47] Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, this is how we played the game.
[59:50] Speaker 3: I'm gonna name three things. You're gonna tell me if
[59:52] Speaker 3: they're a gift or a person why, and then I'll
[59:54] Speaker 3: tell you if they're correct, or if you're correct or
[59:57] Speaker 3: not right answer of course, yeah, okay. The The first
[1:00:00] Speaker 3: thing is from somebody, a listener named Katie. She suggested
[1:00:03] Speaker 3: gift to a curse when your therapist has a large TikTok, following,
[1:00:08] Speaker 3: oh curse, why absolute curse. You can't take someone seriously
[1:00:12] Speaker 3: who uses TikTok. You can't get advice in life from
[1:00:16] Speaker 3: someone who uses TikTok. They've already made a mistake. They
[1:00:19] Speaker 3: use TikTok.
[1:00:20] Speaker 2: And not only that, not in like a way we
[1:00:22] Speaker 2: all use it where we just have an account that
[1:00:23] Speaker 2: we just kind of don't really use, or we just
[1:00:25] Speaker 2: like promote stuff, but we're mostly like looking at people
[1:00:28] Speaker 2: create content. They have a following, so that means they're
[1:00:30] Speaker 2: good at it, and that's not okay. If someone that's not.
[1:00:33] Speaker 3: Okay, they're using part of their time too, yeah, to get.
[1:00:36] Speaker 2: Good at TikTok, and that doesn't sit well with me,
[1:00:40] Speaker 2: And that means they're probably gonna use you for content
[1:00:42] Speaker 2: at some point, Like they're definitely talking about you in
[1:00:45] Speaker 2: some kind of like like I don't know, group chat
[1:00:48] Speaker 2: TikTok of other therapists being like this person.
[1:00:50] Speaker 3: Sucks, actually wrong. Every professional in your life should have
[1:00:55] Speaker 3: a large TikTok following. It's the only way we can
[1:00:58] Speaker 3: freely know they're good. Your doctor, your therapist, a nail girl,
[1:01:04] Speaker 3: your nail girl, your dentist, your mechanic. If they don't
[1:01:07] Speaker 3: have a large TikTok following, drop them, Drop them as
[1:01:10] Speaker 3: soon as possible.
[1:01:11] Speaker 2: You know what, You're right.
[1:01:13] Speaker 3: They should have the charisma to have a million followers
[1:01:17] Speaker 3: on TikTok.
[1:01:17] Speaker 2: And their advice should be so good that people want
[1:01:19] Speaker 2: to follow them.
[1:01:20] Speaker 3: Yes, I mean everything you see on TikTok. You should
[1:01:23] Speaker 3: follow you should disgusting recipes, the you know, little dances.
[1:01:30] Speaker 3: I see nothing wrong with this. It's a gift. It's
[1:01:33] Speaker 3: absolutely a gift.
[1:01:34] Speaker 2: Yeah. Now that, now that I see it in perspective,
[1:01:38] Speaker 2: I change my mind and I see, I see.
[1:01:40] Speaker 3: The gifts beautiful. I'm glad that you're being flexible and
[1:01:43] Speaker 3: fluid here. That's a good quality. Okay, number two, so
[1:01:48] Speaker 3: you've gotten one wrong. That's fine, It's okay, it's okay.
[1:01:50] Speaker 2: Number two.
[1:01:51] Speaker 3: This is from somebody named Kelsey. Gift or a curse
[1:01:54] Speaker 3: leaving the foil lid on the cream cheese after it's
[1:01:56] Speaker 3: already been open.
[1:01:58] Speaker 2: Oh oh, this one's a little difficult. I I'm going
[1:02:05] Speaker 2: to go with curse because I feel like you can
[1:02:10] Speaker 2: never You now know that people do that, They never
[1:02:12] Speaker 2: get all of the cream cheese off of the foil,
[1:02:15] Speaker 2: so then it gets hard and crusty on that part,
[1:02:17] Speaker 2: So then it's touching the like fresh cream cheese that
[1:02:20] Speaker 2: like has it's still in the bottom. So I feel
[1:02:24] Speaker 2: like it's it seems like it's a carrying move, but
[1:02:26] Speaker 2: it actually degrades the experience.
[1:02:29] Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, And you're absolutely correct, Thank you. You've got
[1:02:32] Speaker 3: to get that out of there. You've got to get
[1:02:34] Speaker 3: that filthy little piece of metal.
[1:02:35] Speaker 2: It's there. It's literally just there to be like, remove me, right.
[1:02:39] Speaker 3: It's getting touched by your fingers every time you go
[1:02:42] Speaker 3: for the cream cheese. The bacteria, it's a playground for disease.
[1:02:45] Speaker 2: It's disgusting.
[1:02:46] Speaker 3: It's absolutely should not be anywhere near that dairy product
[1:02:49] Speaker 3: after it's been open.
[1:02:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I say, it gets all crusty. It's crass.
[1:02:53] Speaker 3: You're right, and I understand the it's kind of fun
[1:02:56] Speaker 3: to leave it there, and it feels like you're protecting
[1:02:57] Speaker 3: the cream chees.
[1:02:58] Speaker 2: It's nice to be able to pick a lot. What
[1:03:00] Speaker 2: are you protecting it from? Yeah, you've got the plastic lid. Yeah,
[1:03:03] Speaker 2: that's what the plastic is there for. Right, I mean,
[1:03:06] Speaker 2: let's see.
[1:03:06] Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess unless they're talking about they couldn't possibly
[1:03:09] Speaker 3: be talking about the bars of cream cheese. Garbage trucks.
[1:03:12] Speaker 3: How many are we having through their neighborhood today. It's
[1:03:15] Speaker 3: a garbage celebration.
[1:03:17] Speaker 2: I know, that would be that would be crazy, yeah,
[1:03:19] Speaker 2: because those are like that has to be in the foil,
[1:03:21] Speaker 2: there's no other Yeah.
[1:03:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're talking about the round thing. Yeah,
[1:03:26] Speaker 3: the little plastic container. It's a curse. Kelsey, You've got
[1:03:29] Speaker 3: your answer, yea and excellently played. Okay, final question here,
[1:03:34] Speaker 3: Cindy has suggested gift or a curse. Grandparents are taking
[1:03:38] Speaker 3: on the rolls of flower girl and ring bearer at weddings.
[1:03:43] Speaker 2: Oh you know what, I'm trying to be a more
[1:03:48] Speaker 2: positive person, a more open and accepting person. So I'm
[1:03:53] Speaker 2: gonna go gifts. Okay, why I'm gonna go gift? That
[1:03:57] Speaker 2: could be sweets grandma and grandpa. It could be sweet
[1:04:02] Speaker 2: and not patronizing and and fantilizing. It could that could
[1:04:06] Speaker 2: be done in a cute way. Okay, I don't know.
[1:04:09] Speaker 2: It feels like very I don't know, like an episode
[1:04:14] Speaker 2: of the Office. Like it just it warms my way
[1:04:16] Speaker 2: in a way. Where is it? It's like, is it twenty eleven?
[1:04:19] Speaker 2: Like I you know, it feels very Obama era something
[1:04:22] Speaker 2: about that. I like that.
[1:04:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, well you're wrong.
[1:04:25] Speaker 2: Oh they're taking jobs away from other people.
[1:04:31] Speaker 3: Grandparents have another thing to do a weddings. I assume
[1:04:33] Speaker 3: I don't know what they're you know, they float around
[1:04:36] Speaker 3: and do their thing.
[1:04:38] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:04:39] Speaker 3: Also, it's maybe they don't want to be put to work. Maybe,
[1:04:43] Speaker 3: you know, they can't say no.
[1:04:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, so the it's also not like it's a hard job.
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: I would say maybe the two easiest jobs, which is
[1:04:53] Speaker 2: why they're often given to children and babies and and dogs.
[1:04:56] Speaker 3: Both they sound physically taxing to me.
[1:04:59] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean caring objects walking. I feel like I
[1:05:03] Speaker 2: would give grandparents the same the way I give a child.
[1:05:06] Speaker 2: You know, like when there's a little girl who just
[1:05:08] Speaker 2: dumps all the flowers at once and then just goes
[1:05:10] Speaker 2: and sits down. I would be fine with that.
[1:05:13] Speaker 3: Okay, that I mean that I could be on board
[1:05:15] Speaker 3: with a yeah grandma just dumping things on the ground.
[1:05:18] Speaker 2: Dumping it and like I did it, you know, Or
[1:05:21] Speaker 2: like when it's like the dog who has the ring
[1:05:22] Speaker 2: and it just like kind of walks up there but
[1:05:24] Speaker 2: never really makes it all the way and finally the
[1:05:26] Speaker 2: groom is just like it ah, yeah, and just like
[1:05:28] Speaker 2: gets the ring.
[1:05:29] Speaker 3: Yeah, Grandpa swallows the ring. Okay, but you're not convincing me.
[1:05:33] Speaker 3: You you got one out of three? Okay, did not
[1:05:35] Speaker 3: fail the game? Well you did fail the game. Yeah,
[1:05:37] Speaker 3: do not fail it completely, which feels amazing.
[1:05:40] Speaker 2: But yeah, that feels good. It still feels good. It
[1:05:42] Speaker 2: still feels good.
[1:05:43] Speaker 3: Your garbage day is not ruined, well decently played. Yeah,
[1:05:47] Speaker 3: we had a nice, level headed conversation. Neither of us
[1:05:49] Speaker 3: got mad.
[1:05:50] Speaker 2: And I do see your point on those issues. I
[1:05:53] Speaker 2: en retro. Yeah, they're stealing jobs from children. Ye, and
[1:05:55] Speaker 2: as someone child labor exactly. Yeah.
[1:05:59] Speaker 3: I feel like there's some state that's currently trying to
[1:06:02] Speaker 3: get children working.
[1:06:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, like Tennessee. Probably.
[1:06:04] Speaker 3: I feel like you are Kansas Sciences, and I don't.
[1:06:07] Speaker 3: I don't want to trow in Texas. It is one
[1:06:09] Speaker 3: of those. It's a state that's making the wrong choice.
[1:06:12] Speaker 3: That's ultimately the problem here. Okay, we're at the final
[1:06:15] Speaker 3: segment of the podcast. I said no emails. People write
[1:06:18] Speaker 3: into I said no gifts at gmail dot com with
[1:06:21] Speaker 3: their questions. My listeners have questions. I'll leave it at that.
[1:06:26] Speaker 3: They've got questions, galore, Will you.
[1:06:28] Speaker 2: Help me answer something? Absolutely?
[1:06:30] Speaker 3: Okay, let's see here. This says, dear Bridger and beloved guest.
[1:06:34] Speaker 3: My mother loves and that's very nice. My mother loves
[1:06:37] Speaker 3: to buy me presents, which is very sweet. The problem
[1:06:41] Speaker 3: is that everything she buys for me is something I
[1:06:42] Speaker 3: would have never picked out for myself. And more often
[1:06:46] Speaker 3: than not, the gifts are just just lay around unused.
[1:06:49] Speaker 3: I don't have the heart to tell her I don't
[1:06:51] Speaker 3: like them, so I just say thank you and change
[1:06:53] Speaker 3: the subject. How do I get her to stop wasting
[1:06:55] Speaker 3: money on things I'll never wear or use? Thanks in
[1:06:58] Speaker 3: advance for helping me out with my predicament. And that's
[1:07:01] Speaker 3: from Jess. She day, Jess, Jess is, I hate to
[1:07:07] Speaker 3: say it a horrible child.
[1:07:09] Speaker 2: I mean that, that is what I wanted to say immediately.
[1:07:12] Speaker 2: To be thankful to your mother, your mommy, your mama,
[1:07:18] Speaker 2: I mean my mom. Like I said, stop giving me gifts.
[1:07:20] Speaker 2: The moment I turned eighteen, she was just like, here
[1:07:22] Speaker 2: socks enjoy. So maybe you get to know your mom.
[1:07:26] Speaker 2: Let your mom know you so she can know what
[1:07:28] Speaker 2: to get you.
[1:07:29] Speaker 3: I think there's a great distance between Jess and mom
[1:07:32] Speaker 3: and mom and Jess refuses to do the work to
[1:07:35] Speaker 3: bridge that ga gap. And this was like an opportunity
[1:07:39] Speaker 3: for both Jess and mom to maybe do some to
[1:07:42] Speaker 3: go out on some dates.
[1:07:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, go out together, go to the TJ Max together
[1:07:45] Speaker 2: and tell your mom, no, no, no, no, I don't
[1:07:47] Speaker 2: want the pillow that says email is hard. You know
[1:07:51] Speaker 2: that's not my style.
[1:07:52] Speaker 3: Mom, get in a fight with your mom at ross.
[1:07:55] Speaker 2: For us, that's oh, that's where relationships are just strengthened
[1:07:59] Speaker 2: and built. That's you know, Yeah, you forge it in
[1:08:03] Speaker 2: the fire. Yeah, you're at Marshalls. You're screaming. You don't
[1:08:07] Speaker 2: know anything about me, You don't know me. This is
[1:08:09] Speaker 2: my stay. That's where you really you know, yeah, fortune fire,
[1:08:13] Speaker 2: or if you want to be really passive aggressive, just
[1:08:15] Speaker 2: start regifting the gifts she gives you back to your
[1:08:17] Speaker 2: mom and making it clear you never used it and
[1:08:21] Speaker 2: did not like it.
[1:08:23] Speaker 3: Somehow find a way to make it look even newer
[1:08:25] Speaker 3: than when she gave it.
[1:08:25] Speaker 2: To you, you know, like really wrap it up really nice,
[1:08:28] Speaker 2: like just even beyond what she did, and then just
[1:08:30] Speaker 2: give it back and just don't even act like you know,
[1:08:33] Speaker 2: you've ever seen it before.
[1:08:34] Speaker 3: I mean, there is the chance that that means that
[1:08:36] Speaker 3: Jess is just playing into Mom's game and Mom bought
[1:08:40] Speaker 3: this knowing full well that was coming back.
[1:08:41] Speaker 2: It was coming back, which could be the long con here.
[1:08:44] Speaker 3: But I'm on Mom's side anyway, I'm not I'm not
[1:08:47] Speaker 3: a fan of Jess. Yeah, she's a horrible child, you know.
[1:08:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit it's kind of like I get,
[1:08:55] Speaker 2: but if your mom didn't want to spend the money,
[1:08:57] Speaker 2: she wouldn't end. Yeah, you know, say thank you, Say.
[1:09:00] Speaker 3: Thank you, and maybe grow as a person. Use the
[1:09:04] Speaker 3: things that you don't like, force yourself to use things
[1:09:06] Speaker 3: you don't know.
[1:09:07] Speaker 2: There's a use for everything. My mom gets me an
[1:09:10] Speaker 2: ugly shirt or something, or you know, media company sends
[1:09:14] Speaker 2: me a hoodie for a show that got canceled three
[1:09:17] Speaker 2: years ago, and I go, well, this is what I'm
[1:09:20] Speaker 2: gonna you know, clean my house in. This is a
[1:09:23] Speaker 2: perfect shirt for garden work.
[1:09:25] Speaker 3: Also, a big T shirt like that can be used
[1:09:28] Speaker 3: to mop up dust.
[1:09:29] Speaker 2: Yes, love that use. If you're mailing something, you can
[1:09:35] Speaker 2: use it to stuff a package. You can.
[1:09:39] Speaker 3: You can truly anything. I was gonna say to scare
[1:09:41] Speaker 3: away birds, and I don't know where we were going
[1:09:43] Speaker 3: with that. I guess make a scarecrow does make a scarecrow.
[1:09:46] Speaker 2: So whip a cloth at someone at a bird.
[1:09:49] Speaker 3: Yes, Jess, you have your answer. I hope that's what
[1:09:53] Speaker 3: you were looking for.
[1:09:53] Speaker 2: And I assume it was.
[1:09:54] Speaker 3: I think that's exactly what Jess expect And so we
[1:09:58] Speaker 3: did an excellent job. Ashley, what a wonderful time I've
[1:10:02] Speaker 3: had with you.
[1:10:03] Speaker 2: This was so fun. I've got two hats.
[1:10:05] Speaker 3: I've got my gorgeous jewelry, two note book handle, notebooks, leather,
[1:10:10] Speaker 3: thing that could ruin my reputation if I go out
[1:10:13] Speaker 3: with it. Saying email is hard. I'm ready to live
[1:10:17] Speaker 3: a new life.
[1:10:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's like I said, A new creative journey,
[1:10:20] Speaker 2: a new process to open yourself centered around the girl
[1:10:24] Speaker 2: Boss experience.
[1:10:26] Speaker 3: The girl Boss is my sun and moon exactly. Thank
[1:10:30] Speaker 3: you for being here, Thank you for having me listener. Wow,
[1:10:34] Speaker 3: the episode's over. We're screeching to a halt. You got
[1:10:37] Speaker 3: to hear the garbage can that was more than you
[1:10:40] Speaker 3: bargained for and or not the garbage can the garbage truck.
[1:10:43] Speaker 3: See again, I'm losing losing my mind. I'm absolutely breaking
[1:10:47] Speaker 3: down in front of you. We've got to close down
[1:10:51] Speaker 3: the podcast. Goodbye. I love you, I said. No Gifts
[1:10:59] Speaker 3: is an exis exactly write production. It's produced by our
[1:11:02] Speaker 3: dear friend Annalise Nelson and it's beautifully mixed by Leona Squilatchi.
[1:11:07] Speaker 3: And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Cottner.
[1:11:11] Speaker 3: The theme song, of course, could only come from Miracle
[1:11:15] Speaker 3: worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram.
[1:11:19] Speaker 3: At I said, no gifts. I don't want to hear
[1:11:21] Speaker 3: any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of
[1:11:23] Speaker 3: all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want
[1:11:25] Speaker 3: to see pictures of the gifts?
[1:11:28] Speaker 2: And I invit?
[1:11:29] Speaker 1: Did you hear? Funa man myself perfectly clear. When you're
[1:11:37] Speaker 1: a guest to me, you gotta come to me empty.
[1:11:44] Speaker 1: And I said, no guests, you're our presences presents enough
[1:11:51] Speaker 1: and I'm already too much stuff, So how do you
[1:11:56] Speaker 1: dare to surbey me?
[1:12:01] Speaker 2: Became with ten

Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. Every show and episode belongs to its publisher and plays from the publisher's own feed; this site hosts none of them.