# Martha Kelly Returns to Disobey Bridger Again

An episode of [I Said No Gifts! A comedy interview podcast with Bridger Winegar](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1499562159), 16 Apr 2026, 1 h 07 min.

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Bridger looks past another mistake made by Martha Kelly (Euphoria, Baskets) when she inconsiderately arrives with a gift. The two discuss storm chasing, malfunctioning air conditioners, and fighting for joint custody. Don't forget to review the podcast, it's the least you can do. Join the Patreon for bonus episodes and more Follow the show on Instagram I Said No Gifts! Merch Have a question for I Said No Emails or a Gift or a Curse suggestion? Email us at isaidnogifts@gmail.com and Bridger may or may not read it aloud on the show. Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3Uw1W4v See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:08] Speaker 1: But I invited you here. I thought I made myself
[0:14] Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you
[0:21] Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests,
[0:27] Speaker 1: you're a presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff.
[0:35] Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me?
[0:49] Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm richer wineger Or
[0:55] Speaker 3: in the podcast. I'm just kind of accessing the podcast
[1:00] Speaker 3: world right now, and I'm stepping in. There's something new
[1:04] Speaker 3: and fresh about it for me, even after six years,
[1:08] Speaker 3: today feels different. Well, I've used two public restrooms so
[1:12] Speaker 3: far today, but we've only just begun. God knows how
[1:15] Speaker 3: many I'll be all over town. So that's happened today.
[1:19] Speaker 3: Yesterday was the big thing. I took the dog to
[1:23] Speaker 3: get spade yesterday. So I mean, obviously my dreams of
[1:30] Speaker 3: opening a puppy mill are dashed again. I keep getting
[1:33] Speaker 3: in my own way. This is when people talk about
[1:35] Speaker 3: getting in your own way. This is what they're talking about,
[1:38] Speaker 3: getting your dog spade when you want to be just
[1:41] Speaker 3: breeding puppies to sell to people who drive land Rovers.
[1:47] Speaker 3: Land Rover or range Rover. They both for assholes. I
[1:49] Speaker 3: can't remember. And my apologies to anyone in those cars.
[1:53] Speaker 3: Maybe you're barely scraping by and all you could buy
[1:55] Speaker 3: was a Range Rover. I get it now that I've
[1:58] Speaker 3: alienated anyone with large income. This is again getting in
[2:06] Speaker 3: your own way. That's actually a good example of me
[2:09] Speaker 3: getting I'm obviously in a flow state. I'm in an
[2:13] Speaker 3: absolute flow state. I'm making zero mistakes. Let's keep it going.
[2:18] Speaker 3: Let's talk about Patreon. This show is still on Patreon,
[2:22] Speaker 3: despite everybody trying to tear me down. Come join us.
[2:28] Speaker 3: You can listen to more of this podcast, but it's
[2:31] Speaker 3: me recording it in the backyard, kind of like the
[2:33] Speaker 3: old days. I'm also recapping Real Housewives of Salt Lake City,
[2:37] Speaker 3: Secret Lives, and Mormon Wives, which is and oh, all
[2:41] Speaker 3: of our live shows are there to watch as well.
[2:43] Speaker 3: I mean, that's just we're barely scraping the surface. I'd
[2:46] Speaker 3: even mention the sleep tape I created that everyone loved.
[2:52] Speaker 3: I think I've gone too far. This all started with
[2:56] Speaker 3: two public restrooms. Let's get into the podcast. I oh,
[3:00] Speaker 3: oh my god, I love today's guest. It's Martha Kelly.
[3:02] Speaker 3: Martha welcomed.
[3:03] Speaker 2: I said no gifts, thank you, Bridger. It's great to
[3:06] Speaker 2: be here.
[3:06] Speaker 3: I feel like I kind of just I started something
[3:09] Speaker 3: there then just I feel like I took more time
[3:12] Speaker 3: than usual, and I apologize.
[3:14] Speaker 2: Now I am thrilled because now as soon as I
[3:18] Speaker 2: get home today, I'm going to subscribe to your Patreon.
[3:22] Speaker 3: This was really targeting you.
[3:23] Speaker 2: And I'm so excited. I love when people i'm a
[3:27] Speaker 2: fan of have Patreons, and a lot of people do,
[3:30] Speaker 2: but not everyone. So I'm thrilled.
[3:32] Speaker 3: So you should have a Patreon just for I.
[3:34] Speaker 2: Don't have a podcast, but yeah, I'm gonna start a Patreon.
[3:38] Speaker 3: Well, what you're doing on TikTok should be I would
[3:40] Speaker 3: pay for what you do on TikTok. I don't be
[3:50] Speaker 3: modest about this. It's so good.
[3:52] Speaker 2: Thanks Bridger. The way I think of it as one
[3:55] Speaker 2: of my favorite expressions that I've seen from a lot
[3:59] Speaker 2: of people I fall on social media, which is when
[4:02] Speaker 2: someone is singing terribly or causing any kind of loud ruckus,
[4:08] Speaker 2: they just refer to it as houtin and hollering, and
[4:11] Speaker 2: I feel like that is what my TikTok mostly is,
[4:16] Speaker 2: and hollering.
[4:17] Speaker 3: It's very good, and it's like it's such a cure
[4:20] Speaker 3: to what else is going on on TikTok, which is
[4:22] Speaker 3: very quick cuts, and all of this this is just
[4:25] Speaker 3: you talking and you giving us everything you want to
[4:28] Speaker 3: give us, No apologies, it's you.
[4:33] Speaker 2: Don't know how many times I've said to myself, how
[4:36] Speaker 2: about putting some more effort into this so that it
[4:39] Speaker 2: is like those successful tiktoks that are quick cuts, written
[4:44] Speaker 2: out ahead of time, well edited, fast paced. I say
[4:48] Speaker 2: to myself, why not try that? That seems to work
[4:51] Speaker 2: for people.
[4:51] Speaker 3: That would be so alarming. I would feel so betrayed
[4:54] Speaker 3: by you.
[4:55] Speaker 2: Okay, I'll never do it.
[4:56] Speaker 3: And you are using one one piece of technology in
[5:00] Speaker 3: your tiktoks, which is I think extremely valuable, which is
[5:03] Speaker 3: Republican woman makeup, Yes, which is kind of a filter. Yeah,
[5:07] Speaker 3: And how did you find that filter?
[5:10] Speaker 2: I think that I just saw maybe like a year ago,
[5:15] Speaker 2: I saw someone using it. There's a person I follow
[5:18] Speaker 2: named Suzanne Lambert, okay, and she kind of when I
[5:22] Speaker 2: first started seeing her tiktoks, she would be doing makeup
[5:26] Speaker 2: tutorials for how to do Republican women makeup, and it
[5:30] Speaker 2: was making fun of how over done they are, right,
[5:35] Speaker 2: And then some people started using the Republican woman makeup
[5:38] Speaker 2: filter to be like, wow, this is what I would
[5:40] Speaker 2: look like with that, And then I was like, I
[5:43] Speaker 2: kind of love that when I'm not wearing makeup and
[5:46] Speaker 2: I don't want to be on camera, instead of using
[5:48] Speaker 2: a filter that makes me look pretty in a way
[5:52] Speaker 2: that people would be disappointed to find, not in person
[5:57] Speaker 2: to slap on Republican women makeup filmilter, and then no
[6:01] Speaker 2: one's gonna be like, oh wow, your your nose isn't
[6:06] Speaker 2: pointing and your lips aren't full. They're gonna be like, wow, well,
[6:10] Speaker 2: I'm glad that you're not garishly made up.
[6:15] Speaker 3: I would love to run into you just at the
[6:16] Speaker 3: store in a full face of Republican makeup.
[6:20] Speaker 2: Well, I would have to have fake eyelashes to make too.
[6:25] Speaker 2: But also the filter, I mean, in a way it
[6:28] Speaker 2: does still falsely improve your looks because it does make
[6:34] Speaker 2: my eyes look more youthful by not tilting down but
[6:38] Speaker 2: tilting up like it's still so even if I tried
[6:41] Speaker 2: to recreate it, I wouldn't look like the filter.
[6:43] Speaker 3: Okay, I should try the Republican woman make up just
[6:47] Speaker 3: in my personal time, my private use.
[6:49] Speaker 2: For private fun.
[6:52] Speaker 3: Have you ever worn fake eye lashes?
[6:55] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[6:55] Speaker 2: But only in like Hollywood situations, And I don't want
[7:00] Speaker 2: to because I don't want there to be an even
[7:03] Speaker 2: bigger gap between what I see when I wake up
[7:06] Speaker 2: in the morning in the mirror and what I look
[7:09] Speaker 2: like when I'm out in the world, because then if
[7:13] Speaker 2: I and this is, this is never gonna happen. But
[7:16] Speaker 2: if I ever tried dating again and slept with a man,
[7:21] Speaker 2: I wouldn't want it to be like have you seen Martha?
[7:25] Speaker 2: Because you're not her, but you don't you don't look
[7:29] Speaker 2: like the woman I went to bed with, like like
[7:32] Speaker 2: fake like fake eyelashes are a bridge too far.
[7:37] Speaker 3: I think they are for almost anybody.
[7:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, but although there are some that you can get
[7:41] Speaker 2: that are little, like tiny pieces that are just like
[7:44] Speaker 2: two or three individual lashes you can put on. Someone
[7:48] Speaker 2: did that to me a week ago for a marketing
[7:52] Speaker 2: thing for euphoria, and that was kind of fun. But
[7:56] Speaker 2: I just don't want people to be disappointed when they
[7:59] Speaker 2: see me in par I'd rather they go, Wow, you're
[8:02] Speaker 2: not you. Actually, you don't look that bad.
[8:07] Speaker 3: No one has ever thought that about you. I don't
[8:10] Speaker 3: I mean, you're adorable, You're I would say, you're an
[8:12] Speaker 3: adorable person.
[8:14] Speaker 2: Well, I feel the same way about you.
[8:15] Speaker 3: Bridget two real cute people.
[8:17] Speaker 2: We're just out here being cuties. Well, I did want
[8:21] Speaker 2: a lady in a grocery store years ago when Baskets
[8:25] Speaker 2: was on said came up to me and said, hey,
[8:29] Speaker 2: you're you're on Baskets right, And I said yeah, and
[8:31] Speaker 2: she goes, I'm so happy to see you look so
[8:35] Speaker 2: good in person. And I just feel so much better
[8:37] Speaker 2: because I was worried about you.
[8:42] Speaker 3: Because of the way your character looks in Baskets.
[8:45] Speaker 2: I think so, And just like I think part of
[8:48] Speaker 2: that character was that she is a little bit of
[8:51] Speaker 2: a sad sack in a way.
[8:53] Speaker 3: She just like a broken arm for a good period
[8:55] Speaker 3: of time.
[8:56] Speaker 2: Right, broken arm and like where's like long church lady
[9:02] Speaker 2: dresses even though she doesn't go to church, and is
[9:04] Speaker 2: and is kind of Zach's characters, not punching bag, but
[9:09] Speaker 2: kind of like I always thought they were like Burt
[9:12] Speaker 2: Reynolds and Dom Delouise, And my character was the Dom
[9:15] Speaker 2: Delauize character. So I think maybe people felt empathy for
[9:21] Speaker 2: that character, but maybe also a little bit like could
[9:24] Speaker 2: somebody help this lady?
[9:28] Speaker 3: Well, she's got She's the better of the two as
[9:31] Speaker 3: far as people go, she's just kind of a.
[9:35] Speaker 2: Yeah. It's funny though, because I I don't think that
[9:39] Speaker 2: I even really registered that, because I love Zach so
[9:43] Speaker 2: much and the making the show was just hanging out
[9:46] Speaker 2: with one of the most fun people you could ever
[9:48] Speaker 2: hang out with, Right, So I didn't think of Chip
[9:53] Speaker 2: as being as terrible of a person as he clearly
[9:56] Speaker 2: is written.
[9:56] Speaker 3: To be sure, right, I had a weird I don't
[10:00] Speaker 3: think I've talked about this on this podcast, but I
[10:02] Speaker 3: was at a restaurant in Silver Lake, just like a
[10:04] Speaker 3: little fast food place a few months ago, and I,
[10:08] Speaker 3: out of the corner of my eye saw this man
[10:10] Speaker 3: it's like with a child, and it's like, oh God,
[10:13] Speaker 3: look at this Silver Lake dad. Who's this jerk? And
[10:18] Speaker 3: I kept looking over and making eye contact with him,
[10:20] Speaker 3: and the third time I was like, oh no, that's
[10:22] Speaker 3: Zach Kalns. I felt so stupid, But I think he's
[10:30] Speaker 3: kind of the prototype of that sort of look, so
[10:32] Speaker 3: he yeah, he should be blamed for having a beard
[10:35] Speaker 3: and like kind of just being a scruffy guy. Yeah,
[10:39] Speaker 3: but at the time it was just like, Oh, look,
[10:42] Speaker 3: who's cool. The most uncomfortable eye contact the third time
[10:48] Speaker 3: was like oh no, this is shameful. He's just having
[10:50] Speaker 3: a nice night with his kid, and here.
[10:52] Speaker 2: I am funny.
[10:53] Speaker 3: Oh terrible, absolutely terrible. Last time you were on the
[11:00] Speaker 3: podcast was over Zoom, which was years and years ago,
[11:04] Speaker 3: and you gave me you helped me adopt a gorilla.
[11:06] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[11:07] Speaker 3: Yeah, I checked into the gorilla recently and it seems
[11:11] Speaker 3: to be doing fine.
[11:12] Speaker 2: Okay, good.
[11:14] Speaker 3: It seems like a lot of people have adopted it,
[11:16] Speaker 3: and really so yeah, all kinds of people have adopted
[11:19] Speaker 3: this gorilla, So I think it's okay.
[11:21] Speaker 2: Are you going to sue for custody where.
[11:24] Speaker 3: I'm headed here, I'm like, this is going to be
[11:26] Speaker 3: a bitter custody battle. I will get soul custody and
[11:33] Speaker 3: to the point that the gorilla will be mad at me,
[11:35] Speaker 3: you know, this sort of thing where it's like, well
[11:37] Speaker 3: I still want to see mom and no, no, your mine,
[11:42] Speaker 3: and this is a better situation. I fought for you.
[11:45] Speaker 3: But I think it's out there, it's having a wonderful
[11:48] Speaker 3: life and good. I don't know.
[11:51] Speaker 2: I love gorillas, but I can't fully even look at
[11:55] Speaker 2: the emails from them anymore from that organization because because
[12:00] Speaker 2: I love it's hard. They're too the pathos of a gorilla.
[12:05] Speaker 2: Course I can't handle it.
[12:07] Speaker 3: Right, if you have some level of empathy or sympathy
[12:10] Speaker 3: for these gorillas, you will just it will be a money.
[12:13] Speaker 2: Pit, even if they're just even if it's just like
[12:16] Speaker 2: look at this newborn baby gorilla with his love and
[12:19] Speaker 2: gorilla family, and they're all doing great. You look at
[12:23] Speaker 2: their faces and it hurts. They're so cute and.
[12:26] Speaker 3: They have just like always a natural like slight melancholy
[12:29] Speaker 3: to them.
[12:30] Speaker 2: Right, they're kind of.
[12:31] Speaker 3: Built to exploit humans financial situations.
[12:36] Speaker 2: You know, now that we're talking about it, we should
[12:39] Speaker 2: get a gorilla and make some money.
[12:43] Speaker 3: I'm fighting your custody of one. Why do you think
[12:45] Speaker 3: I'm trying to get control of this thing. It's my plan.
[12:48] Speaker 3: B it's having a gorilla.
[12:51] Speaker 2: We gotta do it.
[12:52] Speaker 3: What have you been up to? What's new?
[12:55] Speaker 2: What is new? While I'm going on a storm chasing
[12:57] Speaker 2: tour in June?
[12:59] Speaker 3: What?
[13:00] Speaker 2: Well, there's companies that do professional storm chasing toys, like
[13:05] Speaker 2: if you went on an elder My parents used to
[13:07] Speaker 2: do this, like an elder hostile tour of Japan or something.
[13:12] Speaker 2: I mean, not nearly. I'm sure it won't be it
[13:15] Speaker 2: won't be anything like that in terms of they were
[13:17] Speaker 2: staying at nice places and being shown wonderful times and
[13:21] Speaker 2: relax relaxing luxury accommodations and transportation. This is just a
[13:26] Speaker 2: company where it's like six to eight people in a
[13:29] Speaker 2: van and then I mean like probably six paying guests
[13:34] Speaker 2: and then the staff, which will be professional meteorologists and
[13:39] Speaker 2: people have been doing this for years, right. They go
[13:42] Speaker 2: all over the country. I'm not all over the country,
[13:46] Speaker 2: all over a tornado alley, right, and then you just
[13:50] Speaker 2: you start in want some place to start in Oklahoma.
[13:53] Speaker 2: Some start in Colorado, and then you ride in a
[13:57] Speaker 2: van for a week and oh my, chase storms. You
[14:01] Speaker 2: don't get close enough to ever be in danger.
[14:03] Speaker 3: Okay, but who's a judge of that.
[14:05] Speaker 2: Well, so we're going through the Great Plains, and so
[14:11] Speaker 2: you can see a storm from a safe distance when
[14:14] Speaker 2: everything's flat. That's my understanding, right, But I'll be honest,
[14:18] Speaker 2: I don't care if I do get carried away by.
[14:22] Speaker 3: What? Why not?
[14:25] Speaker 2: What they pick you up, they set you down somewhere interesting?
[14:29] Speaker 2: Why not?
[14:30] Speaker 3: As I certainly people have been mildly sucked up by
[14:33] Speaker 3: tornadoes before and survived.
[14:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think I mean sadly. I think normally,
[14:39] Speaker 2: if the tornado is powerful enough to lift you up,
[14:44] Speaker 2: you're not coming out of it in good shape.
[14:46] Speaker 3: You're not going to be the same after.
[14:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, and most likely not the same in the sense
[14:52] Speaker 2: of not being alive.
[14:55] Speaker 3: Have you seen a tornado in person before? No.
[14:58] Speaker 2: I saw a rotating cloud one. It's in Austin, Okay,
[15:02] Speaker 2: that's the closest I've gotten. But it was a fast
[15:04] Speaker 2: moving thunderstorm. So it was like, cloud's going over me
[15:08] Speaker 2: kind of fast and one of them going like this
[15:10] Speaker 2: but not coming down here.
[15:12] Speaker 3: That's frightening though, Yeah, it was.
[15:13] Speaker 2: It was thrilling and frightening.
[15:15] Speaker 3: Did you feel like this is it was going to
[15:17] Speaker 3: become a tornado and then seek shelter or was everybody like, oh,
[15:21] Speaker 3: that's fine.
[15:22] Speaker 2: I wasn't worried about because it was moving away from
[15:25] Speaker 2: me so quickly. I figured if it did turn into
[15:28] Speaker 2: a tornado, I wouldn't use somebody else's problem.
[15:33] Speaker 3: What sparked this interest for you?
[15:36] Speaker 2: I've loved thunderstorms literally since being a baby. There is
[15:41] Speaker 2: a story my parents would tell that we went to
[15:45] Speaker 2: my mom's from East Texas. So my brother's a year
[15:49] Speaker 2: and a half older, than me and my twin sister.
[15:52] Speaker 2: So we're all babies at one point.
[15:54] Speaker 3: Wow, that's a lot, so.
[15:56] Speaker 2: Much for my mom, God bless her. We drived us
[15:59] Speaker 2: to East Texas. We get there at night and it's
[16:03] Speaker 2: a thunderstorm and they can't bring all three babies inside
[16:09] Speaker 2: at once. They can bring at most two of us
[16:11] Speaker 2: because there's two of them, right, And they didn't want
[16:15] Speaker 2: to leave one baby alone in a thunderstorm, so they
[16:17] Speaker 2: left me and my sister in the car, took my
[16:20] Speaker 2: brother in, came to get us, and when they opened
[16:23] Speaker 2: the car door, we were laughing hysterically at the thunder.
[16:29] Speaker 2: I don't remember that. I just remember hearing that story
[16:32] Speaker 2: more than a couple times. Oh that's incredible, and I
[16:35] Speaker 2: do love thunderstorms. And then the movie Twister really of
[16:38] Speaker 2: course made me feel like I gotta get out there.
[16:42] Speaker 3: It'd be a fun I've never well, let's see, no,
[16:44] Speaker 3: i've never seen one in person. I feel like that
[16:47] Speaker 3: would be exciting.
[16:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would be exciting if it's especially
[16:50] Speaker 2: if it's not coming.
[16:52] Speaker 3: At you right. Yeah, yeah, you're in a van on tour. Yeah,
[16:56] Speaker 3: just kind of taking a peek.
[16:58] Speaker 2: And then I think it'll be an adventure to meet
[17:01] Speaker 2: a little group of strangers and travel together.
[17:04] Speaker 3: Have you been on a tour like this before. No.
[17:06] Speaker 2: I have a friend who did the same tour with
[17:09] Speaker 2: the same company, like because they have like I think
[17:12] Speaker 2: they have like ten per season, starting in April and
[17:17] Speaker 2: going through July, Okay, and they go to different regions
[17:23] Speaker 2: depending on which tour it is and what month it is,
[17:28] Speaker 2: And so she went on the same one. I'm going
[17:30] Speaker 2: on the same week the same travel path, which will
[17:35] Speaker 2: be through Wyoming, I think Montana and the Dakotas both.
[17:41] Speaker 3: It will be disappointing.
[17:44] Speaker 2: I've never been to the Dakotas, and I'm kind of
[17:46] Speaker 2: excited to see the I just love open country and
[17:51] Speaker 2: being a passenger not a.
[17:53] Speaker 3: Driver, right. I just feel like Wyoming doesn't feel like
[17:56] Speaker 3: tornado or storm country to me.
[17:58] Speaker 2: Maybe we're not going through there because it's like I'm
[18:01] Speaker 2: not familiar with the I mean, I can't remember the map,
[18:04] Speaker 2: but it's like we start in Colorado and we go up.
[18:07] Speaker 3: Okay, probably catch some Wyoming.
[18:10] Speaker 2: Then and then like Montana and then South Dakota and
[18:13] Speaker 2: North Dakota.
[18:14] Speaker 3: And you've never been to the Have you been to
[18:16] Speaker 3: Montana or any of those areas. No, oh, it's so beautiful.
[18:19] Speaker 3: I've never been to the Dakotas.
[18:21] Speaker 2: But I've never been. I mean, is Yellowstone in Wyoming?
[18:26] Speaker 3: This always makes me feel stupid. I think it's in
[18:28] Speaker 3: Wyoming and Montana. Is that right?
[18:32] Speaker 2: If so, I've been to which in Wyoming. It also
[18:36] Speaker 2: spreads into Montana in parts of Idaho.
[18:38] Speaker 3: So this makes me feel like a genius.
[18:41] Speaker 2: Okay, you were right, I'm right. So I've been to
[18:43] Speaker 2: Yellowstone as a kid.
[18:44] Speaker 3: Okay, did you see Old Faithful?
[18:48] Speaker 2: We did, but I don't remember. I just remember my
[18:50] Speaker 2: parents talking about it.
[18:52] Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember seeing it. I remember smelling it,
[18:54] Speaker 3: but I don't remember the actual smell.
[18:56] Speaker 2: Weird.
[18:56] Speaker 3: It's like sulfur. Okay, there's a lot of because I
[18:58] Speaker 3: think those hot pots have a lot of sulfur in them.
[19:01] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but that's essentially all I remember from that trip. Yeah,
[19:06] Speaker 3: it's literally it. And then eating some bad pizza. Why
[19:09] Speaker 3: were we getting pizza in Montana? It's a big question.
[19:12] Speaker 2: And why couldn't they come up with a good pizza Montana?
[19:15] Speaker 2: Come on, come, you can make pizza.
[19:20] Speaker 3: I do think that this is true. I think every state, well,
[19:22] Speaker 3: at this point, probably every state has some good pizza.
[19:24] Speaker 3: I think that there was a learning curve for a
[19:27] Speaker 3: large part of the United States where New York got
[19:29] Speaker 3: to claim they were the only good place with pizza.
[19:31] Speaker 3: I think at this point you can get good pizza
[19:34] Speaker 3: wherever you go.
[19:35] Speaker 2: There's a pizza place in my dad's little, tiny hometown
[19:38] Speaker 2: in Massachusetts that has some of the best pizza I've
[19:42] Speaker 2: ever had in my entire life.
[19:44] Speaker 3: What is it called.
[19:46] Speaker 2: Well, it's changed over the years, so I don't know now,
[19:49] Speaker 2: but it's just it's a place called Forge Village, and
[19:52] Speaker 2: it's a tiny little town. There's just like a couple
[19:56] Speaker 2: stores and a pizza place, right and an old, no
[20:00] Speaker 2: longer in use, textile mill, which is where my grandparents work.
[20:05] Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's amazing.
[20:07] Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they moved there. They moved there from England
[20:09] Speaker 2: with other of their siblings as young adults because that
[20:14] Speaker 2: factory was like, we'll give you jobs and a place
[20:17] Speaker 2: to live if you moved to America work here.
[20:19] Speaker 3: Wow.
[20:19] Speaker 2: So yeah wow.
[20:21] Speaker 3: And what were they doing at the textile mill.
[20:23] Speaker 2: I guess just working on like factory lines or something.
[20:27] Speaker 2: I don't I've never I should have. It's it's kind
[20:31] Speaker 2: of late now because they're all gone. But why wasn't
[20:35] Speaker 2: I a shitty kid? I didn't even ever ask.
[20:41] Speaker 3: Style Mill thoughtless grandchild, horrible granddaughter of the year. Really,
[20:48] Speaker 3: back to the tour, just briefly, how do you do
[20:50] Speaker 3: in a situation like that with strangers? Because I feel like,
[20:54] Speaker 3: for me David, probably like six hours and they'd be like, oh,
[20:59] Speaker 3: I don't think he likes us, And it wouldn't be
[21:01] Speaker 3: because of that. It's just I don't handle that sort
[21:03] Speaker 3: of thing that well.
[21:05] Speaker 2: I relate to that, but I think that I have
[21:09] Speaker 2: been surprised to find out how inevitable it is that
[21:12] Speaker 2: I'll get attached to people if I spend a lot
[21:16] Speaker 2: of time with them over multiple days.
[21:19] Speaker 3: Right, a forced excuse to talk to each other.
[21:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I mean, because I did, just to
[21:25] Speaker 2: be Johnny Hollywood for a second. I did two days
[21:29] Speaker 2: on a sketch show a couple of weeks ago, two
[21:33] Speaker 2: days and not even two full days, And when it ended,
[21:37] Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna miss these people.
[21:39] Speaker 3: Oh that's really sweet.
[21:42] Speaker 2: Their casts and their crew were just really lovely.
[21:45] Speaker 3: That's wonderful. Can you say what show was yet?
[21:48] Speaker 2: I don't know. I should have asked.
[21:51] Speaker 3: You didn't care about it at all, or those people.
[21:53] Speaker 2: I don't want to get out of it. I don't
[21:55] Speaker 2: care if it even comes out.
[21:57] Speaker 3: You're campaigning against it.
[22:00] Speaker 2: Hearing to say, don't watch any if you hear on
[22:02] Speaker 2: the grapevine that there's a sketch show that I'm in,
[22:05] Speaker 2: do not watch it.
[22:06] Speaker 3: Just don't watch sketch shows in general, to be safe.
[22:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, just to keep it, keep it real.
[22:14] Speaker 3: Ah, Well, I think there's something else we should talk about.
[22:17] Speaker 3: I've been trying to avoid the subject as long as possible.
[22:20] Speaker 2: I get it.
[22:21] Speaker 3: You remember the huge blow up we had it in
[22:23] Speaker 3: the last time we recorded, how there were years between
[22:26] Speaker 3: that we barely spoke. The podcast is called I said
[22:30] Speaker 3: no gifts, and I really thought today you wouldn't bring anything,
[22:35] Speaker 3: and so I was frankly just kind of blown away
[22:38] Speaker 3: when you showed up with the scoregeous gift bag.
[22:40] Speaker 2: Yeah it is. I did really go all out for
[22:43] Speaker 2: the gift bag.
[22:45] Speaker 3: Well, should we open it here on the podcast?
[22:47] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[22:48] Speaker 2: Can I give a Can I give a pre I
[22:52] Speaker 2: don't want to say disclaimer.
[22:54] Speaker 3: I love when people start explaining about a gift before
[22:56] Speaker 3: it's even open.
[22:58] Speaker 2: I just want to say no, pressure. But I did
[23:01] Speaker 2: bring you as a gift one of my most precious
[23:05] Speaker 2: personal items from my home.
[23:07] Speaker 3: Oh my god.
[23:08] Speaker 2: But I will also say I might be the only
[23:12] Speaker 2: person in the world who considers it a precious item.
[23:15] Speaker 3: It's a shoot up a lot of gum.
[23:17] Speaker 2: No, it's it's just And I will tell you also
[23:21] Speaker 2: that I am going to buy another one because I
[23:23] Speaker 2: really want.
[23:24] Speaker 3: I want to hearing the sort of thing where you're like, oh,
[23:27] Speaker 3: I don't want to give it away.
[23:28] Speaker 2: No I do, because it's not expensive, Okay, And I'm
[23:31] Speaker 2: just going to buy another one. That's how much I
[23:33] Speaker 2: love it. You're not gonna love it, and I'm already sorry,
[23:36] Speaker 2: but I love it.
[23:41] Speaker 3: Oh, this is wonderful.
[23:43] Speaker 2: It's a refrigerator, magnet of a frog, port, a serious
[23:47] Speaker 2: portrait of a frog in a wood.
[23:49] Speaker 3: It's a really beautiful kind of bob Bob with bangs,
[23:53] Speaker 3: kind of a jet black. I'm trying to think of, uh,
[23:57] Speaker 3: who has hair a hairstyle like this.
[24:00] Speaker 2: Oh it's not a Lord Farquah.
[24:04] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Jason. If this wasn't a man, it
[24:07] Speaker 3: probably would be right.
[24:09] Speaker 2: I mean, I've been assuming that is a man.
[24:11] Speaker 3: I kind of just jumped immediately to you know, hip
[24:14] Speaker 3: young woman twenties. She's in like owns a record store
[24:17] Speaker 3: or something.
[24:18] Speaker 2: It's funny. I've been thinking of like eleven year old
[24:22] Speaker 2: boy school portrait. That's how I've been thinking of it,
[24:27] Speaker 2: and that is the parents hanging it on their refrigerator.
[24:31] Speaker 3: This is a great test for therapists. They should this
[24:34] Speaker 3: should be a new h What do you see with
[24:36] Speaker 3: the frog and a wig? Because I absolutely saw this
[24:39] Speaker 3: hip young woman, but I could also see that being
[24:42] Speaker 3: a little boy who and he's embarrassed of this picture.
[24:44] Speaker 2: Now he's kind of like I'm in fifth grade. I
[24:48] Speaker 2: honestly thought this would be a more exciting time of life.
[24:51] Speaker 2: I thought I was going to be hitting my stride,
[24:54] Speaker 2: But here I am in a wig?
[24:56] Speaker 3: Where did you?
[24:57] Speaker 2: I found it on TikTok and I'm gonna buy it.
[25:00] Speaker 2: That's why I know I can buy another one.
[25:02] Speaker 3: Do you do a lot of TikTok shopping? I have.
[25:05] Speaker 2: I'm trying to cool my jets because I don't want
[25:09] Speaker 2: to be accumulating junk. So some things I've gotten off
[25:14] Speaker 2: there I have loved, and some things have been truly garbage.
[25:18] Speaker 3: What's been some of the garbage you've gotten.
[25:20] Speaker 2: I got some irrasable gel pens that don't work at all.
[25:24] Speaker 3: A raceable ink. We've got to just stop talking about
[25:27] Speaker 3: that as a concept.
[25:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not good. I remember in sixth grade it
[25:30] Speaker 2: was a big thing. Paper Mate I think had erasable
[25:34] Speaker 2: ink pens, and they were they just tore up your
[25:37] Speaker 2: paper when you were.
[25:38] Speaker 3: Rais paper tearing and smudges.
[25:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't really, they were terrible. These tricked me.
[25:46] Speaker 2: I've gotten some eyeshadow palette that is basically like a
[25:52] Speaker 2: water color palette. It's the brightest primary colors, and I
[25:56] Speaker 2: tried all of them. I was like, this is ridiculous.
[26:00] Speaker 3: Clown makeup.
[26:01] Speaker 2: It's clown makeup, or it's very young women with a
[26:05] Speaker 2: certain kind of eyelid makeup where they can really do
[26:09] Speaker 2: different if you're young and doing different layers of mixes
[26:13] Speaker 2: of colors or whatever. Frog in a wig, it's frog
[26:17] Speaker 2: and a wig makeup.
[26:18] Speaker 3: That's a good filter. Frog and a wig.
[26:20] Speaker 2: Let's get that. God, I would love to have that filter.
[26:25] Speaker 3: Yeah. Those TikTok things almost always get I've never fallen
[26:28] Speaker 3: for one, but they always make every product seem like, well,
[26:31] Speaker 3: this is the exact solution. For a thing you were
[26:34] Speaker 3: not thinking about before. Yeah, and then they demonstrate it
[26:37] Speaker 3: and it works. But yeah, clearly they're just using another
[26:43] Speaker 3: product or the magic of Hollywood.
[26:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, and there what I've gotten other stuff like there
[26:49] Speaker 2: was a little tripod lighting stick that had two lights
[26:56] Speaker 2: on either side of it, ring lights on either side
[26:59] Speaker 2: of it, and like one of them immediately broke off
[27:02] Speaker 2: and more.
[27:02] Speaker 3: Than just half of your face is making Yeah.
[27:05] Speaker 2: And then the other one doesn't work. Now that's been
[27:08] Speaker 2: a while, but I'm trying to think of Boughton some
[27:11] Speaker 2: real I mean, Boughton I bought.
[27:13] Speaker 3: I think, by the way, we should just bring botton
[27:15] Speaker 3: into the language that's at it.
[27:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, Boughton to me is in the same delightful category
[27:21] Speaker 2: as hooton and hollering.
[27:24] Speaker 3: That is kind of the same dictionary. Yeah, yeah, Boughton,
[27:28] Speaker 3: we all know it makes sense.
[27:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, and if people are saying casted, then I can
[27:33] Speaker 2: say botan absolutely so.
[27:35] Speaker 3: But what have you boughten that's worked?
[27:38] Speaker 2: Oh and I also bought a keyboard that doesn't.
[27:40] Speaker 3: Work, musical keyboard.
[27:43] Speaker 2: Or a noah, a typing really pretty pink clickety clocking buttons,
[27:48] Speaker 2: and I can't get it to work. Oh, no, Yeah,
[27:50] Speaker 2: I can't hook it up at all. What have I
[27:53] Speaker 2: got this work? Because well, I mean the the frog
[27:56] Speaker 2: and a wig. I have gotten other very cute refrigerator magnets.
[28:00] Speaker 2: I've gotten some. I get a lot of press on.
[28:03] Speaker 2: All the press on nails I get, which I'm not
[28:05] Speaker 2: wearing right now, but I get them all from TikTok.
[28:07] Speaker 3: That makes sense. Yeah, that feels like a category that
[28:10] Speaker 3: you could trust on TikTok.
[28:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, although I will say they call many of them short,
[28:17] Speaker 2: and they are not short. You have to get extra
[28:19] Speaker 2: short which are still too long.
[28:21] Speaker 3: So they come and they're just super long nails.
[28:23] Speaker 2: They're just not as crazy long, but they're still longer
[28:27] Speaker 2: than You have to accept that part of your hand
[28:32] Speaker 2: function will be decreased when you're wearing press on nails.
[28:35] Speaker 3: This is how we find out you couldn't use the keyboard.
[28:37] Speaker 3: The keyboard it's not working because your nails are too long.
[28:40] Speaker 2: I should have tried them.
[28:41] Speaker 3: Well.
[28:42] Speaker 2: I got this tote bag, and I love.
[28:43] Speaker 3: Tobag bags from TikTok.
[28:45] Speaker 2: That toe bag. I also got other tote bags from TikTok,
[28:48] Speaker 2: one of which I didn't really like and gave away
[28:52] Speaker 2: to someone who did like it.
[28:53] Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, TikTok. The one thing that always stops me
[28:57] Speaker 3: is I think, oh, of that seems affordable whatever, and
[28:58] Speaker 3: then I shipping is over two dollars. I think, well
[29:01] Speaker 3: it's too expensive.
[29:03] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[29:03] Speaker 3: Seeing something that's not free shipping at this point, unfortunately,
[29:06] Speaker 3: really freezes me in my tracks.
[29:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally get it. Wait. I also bought some
[29:12] Speaker 2: face stuff that wanted some medacube stuck.
[29:15] Speaker 3: Oh, this seems dangerous.
[29:16] Speaker 2: That when it arrived, I took one look at the
[29:18] Speaker 2: bottles and I said, you.
[29:20] Speaker 3: Can't put something on your face from TikTok.
[29:22] Speaker 2: No, I'm not doing that.
[29:24] Speaker 3: Absolutely, it will be a huge mistake.
[29:26] Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be third degree burns. Not that metacube is
[29:32] Speaker 2: burning people, but just these particular products. I said, that
[29:36] Speaker 2: looks like a solvent that's used to take off super glue.
[29:39] Speaker 2: I'm not putting it on my face.
[29:42] Speaker 3: There are certain things that are worth paying for and
[29:44] Speaker 3: getting the advice of professionals rather than influencers. Yes, like
[29:48] Speaker 3: your skin things you ingest are probably another category. Yeah,
[29:55] Speaker 3: what was the first thing you bought on TikTok? Do
[29:56] Speaker 3: you remember?
[29:58] Speaker 2: I think? I mean I have. I bought a tiny
[30:01] Speaker 2: air horn. I bought a tiny, a miniature trombone that
[30:06] Speaker 2: makes the sound that Chris Fairbanks always meant mates, which
[30:09] Speaker 2: is like, that's not it, but you know what I mean.
[30:15] Speaker 2: I bought a little plastic raccoon and a plastic garbage
[30:19] Speaker 2: can that I thought was cute, but my cats wouldn't
[30:22] Speaker 2: let me keep it on the dusk. They kept knocking
[30:24] Speaker 2: it off. I've got a lot of cheap plastic organizer
[30:27] Speaker 2: bins and shelves and things for your desk and bedroom
[30:32] Speaker 2: and bathroom. Got a lot of cheap plastic stuff off TikTok.
[30:37] Speaker 3: But for bathroom storage, I feel like that's going to
[30:40] Speaker 3: be cheap stuff no matter where you get it.
[30:42] Speaker 2: Yeah. But the one thing I got that unfortunately, am
[30:45] Speaker 2: gonna throw out as soon as I have time to
[30:48] Speaker 2: take on a project. It is going to be a
[30:51] Speaker 2: project because I have to take the things that are
[30:53] Speaker 2: in it out.
[30:53] Speaker 3: Oh no.
[30:54] Speaker 2: But it's like I thought it was neat because it
[30:56] Speaker 2: has like a plastic kind of bubble looking lid and
[31:00] Speaker 2: then drawers. But it's it's not good.
[31:03] Speaker 3: And is it something? Is the bubble lid? Does it
[31:05] Speaker 3: keep it from stacking other things on top of it?
[31:07] Speaker 2: It's I think it's supposed to keep it from to
[31:11] Speaker 2: keep things from being knocked over or getting dust on
[31:15] Speaker 2: them or something, but I I always leave it open.
[31:19] Speaker 2: Right now, I have like a bunch of hair products
[31:21] Speaker 2: that have dust on the lids. And also I looked
[31:25] Speaker 2: it up the other day. Your air condition central AC
[31:29] Speaker 2: is not supposed to be laying out a thin layer
[31:31] Speaker 2: of dust daily and mine is. So something's happening.
[31:36] Speaker 3: You haven't been in your new place that long, have you?
[31:39] Speaker 2: No?
[31:39] Speaker 1: Not?
[31:39] Speaker 2: I mean like eight months?
[31:41] Speaker 3: So what has got? What has happened in those eight months?
[31:43] Speaker 2: I'm assuming that the air conditioning filter was not brand
[31:48] Speaker 2: new when I moved in, and then I don't ever
[31:50] Speaker 2: pay attention to that stuff as I should, And now
[31:54] Speaker 2: I am paying attention.
[31:56] Speaker 3: Who can take care of this for you? That seems
[31:58] Speaker 3: very bad?
[31:59] Speaker 2: Well, I think I will buy a ladder from home Depot,
[32:03] Speaker 2: an indoor tall ladder because it's on the ceiling, it's
[32:07] Speaker 2: not one of those that's on the high wall, and
[32:11] Speaker 2: then replace the filter. And if that doesn't help, then say, hey, landlord,
[32:17] Speaker 2: something's got.
[32:18] Speaker 3: Why don't you just ask your landlord to do it?
[32:19] Speaker 1: Now?
[32:21] Speaker 2: I don't like having to plan the appointments with people
[32:25] Speaker 2: that come to my house. There's a lot of issues
[32:28] Speaker 2: that need taking care of it the house that I
[32:30] Speaker 2: simply refuse to handle because I don't want to have
[32:34] Speaker 2: to figure out when can you come? When can I
[32:36] Speaker 2: be here? Even though I am home most of the time.
[32:42] Speaker 3: It's inconvenient.
[32:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's also like I mean, I hope my
[32:48] Speaker 2: landlord doesn't listen to this. But there was a there
[32:51] Speaker 2: was a light in a closet in the guest bedroom
[32:56] Speaker 2: where you pull a string and it goes on and off,
[32:59] Speaker 2: and of course the string came out. So then I
[33:02] Speaker 2: thought I could replace it if I got on a
[33:05] Speaker 2: little ladder and could reach unscrewed the light fixture and
[33:09] Speaker 2: pulled it out and then could put that in right. Unfortunately,
[33:15] Speaker 2: none of that wasn't true at all, and then I
[33:19] Speaker 2: and then I didn't want to deal with the problem
[33:22] Speaker 2: I caused, so I simply used duct tape to cover
[33:25] Speaker 2: up that hole and so spiders wouldn't come in from
[33:30] Speaker 2: the crawl space.
[33:32] Speaker 3: So now there's just no light bulb, there's nothing.
[33:34] Speaker 2: No, and there's nothing no. Well that's not true. There
[33:36] Speaker 2: is stuff in the closet now, but it's just workout equipment.
[33:40] Speaker 2: Some of which I do use, but that doesn't need
[33:42] Speaker 2: to be lit up. I don't need a light for that.
[33:44] Speaker 2: I was using the light before because I was I
[33:46] Speaker 2: had the cat litter box in there.
[33:48] Speaker 3: Oh sure.
[33:49] Speaker 2: But then, and I hate to bad mouth him, but
[33:52] Speaker 2: my cat Berry started missing, peeing a little bit on
[33:56] Speaker 2: the wall, and then I was like, no, this has
[34:00] Speaker 2: got to go in the spare bathroom, in the shower
[34:03] Speaker 2: that I don't use.
[34:04] Speaker 3: That's smart.
[34:05] Speaker 2: And then clean out, you know, soapy hot water on
[34:10] Speaker 2: the walls and the floor of that closet. And then
[34:13] Speaker 2: I waited a while before I put the exercise equipment
[34:17] Speaker 2: in it.
[34:17] Speaker 3: It's poor closet.
[34:20] Speaker 2: He's been through it, you know.
[34:22] Speaker 3: As far as cat litter, I haven't had a cat
[34:24] Speaker 3: in a while. But have you tried experimented with different
[34:27] Speaker 3: cat litter boxes?
[34:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like I keep trying to get ones
[34:32] Speaker 2: big enough with tall enough sides that my cats will
[34:35] Speaker 2: never miss, uh huh, And unfortunately they are determined.
[34:44] Speaker 3: It's entirely on purpose.
[34:46] Speaker 2: Then, well, I think Barry is just this sweet little
[34:50] Speaker 2: nerd who doesn't pay attention to what he's doing.
[34:53] Speaker 3: Oh sure, he's got other things going on.
[34:55] Speaker 2: He's got a lot on his mind, but he but
[34:58] Speaker 2: since I've put it in the shower, most of the
[35:00] Speaker 2: time he doesn't miss. But when he does, I can
[35:03] Speaker 2: just spray the like take the letter box out and
[35:07] Speaker 2: vacuum up the dry scattered litter from the stour floor
[35:13] Speaker 2: and then spray it with soap dish soapdn Not that
[35:18] Speaker 2: I'm promoting that, but I.
[35:19] Speaker 3: Made a lot of money from John over the.
[35:21] Speaker 2: Years, and then hot water and it's you know, clean.
[35:27] Speaker 3: I think that's probably the best solution for if you've
[35:29] Speaker 3: got an extra shower bathtub for your cat litter, because
[35:33] Speaker 3: it's just to me an eternal problem. Yeah, those robot ones,
[35:37] Speaker 3: I think that those probably don't actually work.
[35:40] Speaker 2: And I'm afraid that my cats are so contrary that
[35:45] Speaker 2: they would figure out a way to either get hurt
[35:47] Speaker 2: or killed by the robot.
[35:49] Speaker 3: It's very cat final destination.
[35:51] Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, I have heard that things can
[35:54] Speaker 2: go horribly wrong, really and they mostly don't. But I can't.
[36:00] Speaker 2: I don't even have a bed frame because I'm afraid
[36:02] Speaker 2: of the cats being under the bed and the bed
[36:05] Speaker 2: falling on them.
[36:06] Speaker 3: Right, I think that's a safe I mean, I can
[36:09] Speaker 3: imagine that actually happening. And if on the off chance
[36:13] Speaker 3: it does, it's happened.
[36:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, So better better to sleep with your box spring
[36:19] Speaker 2: and mattress on the floor like a college student that
[36:23] Speaker 2: no one wants to be.
[36:25] Speaker 3: I think that's very cheap.
[36:29] Speaker 2: I mean, they do have bed frames now that are
[36:31] Speaker 2: closed off get under it, So why not get one
[36:34] Speaker 2: of those?
[36:35] Speaker 3: One of those?
[36:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, with it once we get our gorilla money making machine.
[36:40] Speaker 3: Don't act like the down money isn't just rolling in
[36:44] Speaker 3: I could.
[36:44] Speaker 2: Get I guess I could get it with my don money.
[36:47] Speaker 3: Yeah, you could get endless mattresses on the floor.
[36:50] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[36:51] Speaker 3: No, I think now I'm starting to wonder about those
[36:53] Speaker 3: robot things. What they could possibly do to a cat.
[36:55] Speaker 3: I guess I don't want to know.
[36:57] Speaker 2: Well, I think that their tail can get trapped in
[37:00] Speaker 2: the rake that comes out or something. I don't know.
[37:04] Speaker 2: I just it's as much as I love my niece
[37:08] Speaker 2: and nephew, and when they were little, I felt like, God,
[37:12] Speaker 2: I should have had kids. I love taking care of
[37:14] Speaker 2: babies and kids. I do think it's for the best
[37:17] Speaker 2: that I didn't, because the way that I worry and
[37:20] Speaker 2: I'm overprotective is just four legged family members. And also
[37:26] Speaker 2: I can tell as an aunt my niece. At one point,
[37:28] Speaker 2: my niece enophew are like, why are you so worried
[37:32] Speaker 2: about us getting kidnapped? Why are you always warning us of?
[37:37] Speaker 3: Are you going to get.
[37:40] Speaker 2: Why is it the worst case scenarios that you're always
[37:43] Speaker 2: making sure we're careful of, to the point that at
[37:47] Speaker 2: one point I was like.
[37:49] Speaker 3: I gotta cool it. Do they live in the area.
[37:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, they lived down Well, my niece is away at
[37:54] Speaker 2: college now in Riverside, but they live. My brother and
[38:00] Speaker 2: nephew still live down in the South Bay.
[38:02] Speaker 3: Oh that's lovely.
[38:03] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[38:03] Speaker 3: So would you have like a day out with your
[38:05] Speaker 3: niece and nephew aunt day.
[38:08] Speaker 2: Like when they were little? Yeah, all the time. Oh yeah,
[38:11] Speaker 2: it was so fun. They were so fun to just have.
[38:16] Speaker 2: They mooned me one time in line at uh with
[38:21] Speaker 2: Gardenings one of those giant gardening stores. Not not a
[38:24] Speaker 2: Lows but what was.
[38:26] Speaker 3: That old one Orchard Supply Hardware.
[38:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's one of those, which is down
[38:31] Speaker 2: in Torrents. And it was Super Bowl Sunday and they
[38:33] Speaker 2: were they were probably like four and five, and we
[38:37] Speaker 2: went there to get something and as I'm paying a
[38:41] Speaker 2: look and they're both mooning me. They went through a
[38:43] Speaker 2: phase where they mooned people.
[38:44] Speaker 3: All the time, incredible as a team, synchronized and no one.
[38:49] Speaker 2: Was thank god, no one. No one was around, although
[38:52] Speaker 2: I mean who cares. But ultimately it probably seemed like
[38:56] Speaker 2: I wasn't taking great care of them that they were
[38:59] Speaker 2: like people.
[39:03] Speaker 3: Do you still have a good relationship with them? Yeah,
[39:06] Speaker 3: they must think you're very cool.
[39:08] Speaker 2: I don't think they think I'm cool, but I think
[39:10] Speaker 2: that they enjoyed having an aunt who is like I
[39:14] Speaker 2: am always on their side. I am never the critical,
[39:20] Speaker 2: yelling aunt or like just I adore them, and so
[39:24] Speaker 2: I think that they feel very safe and and like
[39:30] Speaker 2: they know they're my favorite people.
[39:31] Speaker 3: Oh I love that. So I can't imagine getting to
[39:34] Speaker 3: the place of being the yelling ant.
[39:37] Speaker 2: But that's the sad thing is I mean, I had
[39:39] Speaker 2: one mean aunt. Unfortunately we saw a lot of her
[39:43] Speaker 2: when I was a kid for a while, and like, yeah,
[39:47] Speaker 2: some I've heard from people that they have some aunts
[39:50] Speaker 2: that have been like really, maybe just didn't like kids
[39:53] Speaker 2: and were like scoldie or critical or whatever.
[39:57] Speaker 3: His mistakes are so low as an aunt or uncle
[39:59] Speaker 3: where it's like they're not really your responsibility. So you
[40:02] Speaker 3: can just have a good time with these children. You
[40:05] Speaker 3: don't have to discipline them in any unless they're attacking you. Right.
[40:09] Speaker 2: But I just think there are some people who don't
[40:11] Speaker 2: like kids. I always suspect it's if you had a
[40:14] Speaker 2: traumatic childhood and you shut off your emotions to protect yourself,
[40:22] Speaker 2: then kids can really trigger your anger or interesting because
[40:26] Speaker 2: it reminds you of being helpless, right, you know, I
[40:30] Speaker 2: want to give people the benefit of the doubt that
[40:32] Speaker 2: they're not just monsters.
[40:35] Speaker 3: I think at this point in history, we've proven that
[40:36] Speaker 3: there is a good part of the population that may
[40:40] Speaker 3: just be monsters.
[40:41] Speaker 2: I mean. The one positive, hopefully thing that I think
[40:47] Speaker 2: is coming out of the monsters that are all out
[40:50] Speaker 2: in the open now is that there are some very
[40:56] Speaker 2: uh well, how can I say this in a politically
[41:01] Speaker 2: correct way. There are some religious communities and I won't
[41:06] Speaker 2: say denominations, but there are some in the United States
[41:09] Speaker 2: that are specific to the United States that their practices
[41:14] Speaker 2: in their communities, especially the way they treat kids, they
[41:17] Speaker 2: keep it a secret as much as they can. And
[41:20] Speaker 2: now it's all coming out because they said we're gonna
[41:24] Speaker 2: take over like we're Christian nationalists. Sorry, I did say
[41:28] Speaker 2: who they are. We're going to take over everything. We
[41:31] Speaker 2: want dominion over everything. Yes, and so it's like, well,
[41:34] Speaker 2: then guess what now the spotlight is on all these
[41:37] Speaker 2: things that you've been doing that you don't want people
[41:39] Speaker 2: to look at.
[41:39] Speaker 3: Right, how just straight up terrible you are in so
[41:42] Speaker 3: many ways. Yeah, so not the religion that you've think claim.
[41:46] Speaker 3: I mean, the whole thing is so bizarre.
[41:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I hope that it ends up rescuing
[41:53] Speaker 2: kids from from lives that are just full of deliberate
[41:59] Speaker 2: cruel in the name of saving their souls. It's heartbreaking,
[42:04] Speaker 2: you know.
[42:05] Speaker 3: It's a very gracious way of talking about Christian nationalists.
[42:08] Speaker 2: I mean, and I guess it's I should don't worry
[42:10] Speaker 2: about saying that, because I know there are lots of
[42:12] Speaker 2: Christians that are not in that camp.
[42:15] Speaker 3: No, of course, a lot of lovely Christians who do
[42:18] Speaker 3: what their religion is teaching them.
[42:21] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[42:22] Speaker 3: But then there's this particularly nasty new thing.
[42:26] Speaker 2: Yeah, and at least one of the architects of it,
[42:31] Speaker 2: James Dobson. Thanks thanks be to God, he's no longer
[42:34] Speaker 2: with us, but let's get his name out there and
[42:38] Speaker 2: enough smear it as much as you can.
[42:41] Speaker 3: I just watched this documentary called Marjo. Have you ever
[42:44] Speaker 3: heard of this? It's about this former child preacher. Oh,
[42:48] Speaker 3: it's amazing. He was like a preacher in the late
[42:52] Speaker 3: forties early fifties as a child, Like incredible, he'd be
[42:55] Speaker 3: like wow, travel around. And then later, I mean, he
[42:58] Speaker 3: was obviously being exploited by his parents and they made
[43:01] Speaker 3: millions of dollars off of him, and he kind of
[43:04] Speaker 3: later came out of all of that being like, no,
[43:06] Speaker 3: this isn't me. But then the documentary is following him
[43:10] Speaker 3: while he's going on tour as a preacher, knowing full
[43:13] Speaker 3: well what he doesn't believe what he's preaching, and I
[43:17] Speaker 3: think part of it, like I think part of it
[43:19] Speaker 3: for him is he's like, I'm going to show people
[43:22] Speaker 3: that this is all bullshit once this documentary comes out.
[43:26] Speaker 3: And also I'm going to make some money that wasn't
[43:28] Speaker 3: given to me by my parents who used me as
[43:30] Speaker 3: a child employee. But it's so wonderful. It's really fine.
[43:34] Speaker 2: And it's called Margo Marjo.
[43:36] Speaker 3: He was named after Mary and Joseph Marjo.
[43:41] Speaker 2: And what platform can I watch it on?
[43:44] Speaker 3: I feel like this was on one of those weird
[43:45] Speaker 3: free ones you know to be or something like that.
[43:50] Speaker 2: Okay, I'll look it up. I'm embarrassed to just realize
[43:55] Speaker 2: I don't watch any of the free stuff. I also
[43:58] Speaker 2: don't watch many of the ones I pay for for.
[44:00] Speaker 3: Oh my God, of course not.
[44:02] Speaker 2: But I don't watch the free stuff because I just
[44:05] Speaker 2: have this dumb bias of like it must not be good,
[44:09] Speaker 2: but they are good.
[44:11] Speaker 3: I think that what they are the good stuff is
[44:13] Speaker 3: just kind of forgotten stuff from the past where you know,
[44:17] Speaker 3: there's really no money to be made off of it.
[44:18] Speaker 3: So this was made in like I think nineteen seventy
[44:22] Speaker 3: or something, and I'm just kind of forgotten for such
[44:23] Speaker 3: a long time, and then for whatever reason Tooby has
[44:27] Speaker 3: decided to put it on their platform or whatever free
[44:29] Speaker 3: service this is. So occasionally you go into those things
[44:32] Speaker 3: and you find interesting things that are nowhere else, maybe
[44:35] Speaker 3: because nobody owns the rights to them. Okay, I don't
[44:38] Speaker 3: know what the exact logic is, but it'll be like
[44:41] Speaker 3: things that no one else has really thought of, so
[44:43] Speaker 3: they'll be interesting.
[44:46] Speaker 2: This documentary, the way you described it gave me an idea,
[44:49] Speaker 2: and I'm not saying it's the right idea, but money
[44:53] Speaker 2: making Milt, you said they made millions. Yes, our gorilla, Oh,
[44:58] Speaker 2: here we go.
[45:01] Speaker 3: It's such a sign.
[45:02] Speaker 2: Language, and he preaches they can learn sign language. Millions
[45:09] Speaker 2: raking in the.
[45:10] Speaker 3: Dough, seven dead in church as gorilla goes wild. No,
[45:18] Speaker 3: I think that that's a path for us.
[45:20] Speaker 2: We got to do it last time. I think I
[45:22] Speaker 2: did the podcast we were talking about starting a do
[45:26] Speaker 2: we talk about starting a podcast about delivering pizzas something?
[45:30] Speaker 3: Oh? I think about people who were murdered delivering pizza. Right,
[45:33] Speaker 3: that's right, my favorite pizza murder.
[45:36] Speaker 2: Although we could also just do on my favorite pizza podcast.
[45:39] Speaker 3: Oh, that's not a bad idea and occasionally dip into
[45:42] Speaker 3: people who are murdered delivering pizza. That feels like a
[45:44] Speaker 3: concept that hasn't been done yet.
[45:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it has.
[45:47] Speaker 3: And neither has my favorite pizza murder. Both of those
[45:50] Speaker 3: things one could spin off the other.
[45:52] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[45:53] Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that pizza delivery people are as
[45:57] Speaker 3: you as we spoke about, are in constant day.
[46:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, except for I guess people nowadays they have to
[46:06] Speaker 2: be using they give their address and they have to
[46:09] Speaker 2: use a credit card.
[46:10] Speaker 3: Oh interesting maybe, but stolen credit card?
[46:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I got mugged at knife point delivering pizzas.
[46:17] Speaker 2: I think that's why we talked about it.
[46:19] Speaker 3: Yes, but that was.
[46:20] Speaker 2: In the mid early nineteen nineties, Okay.
[46:24] Speaker 3: And that's I had the memory of watching I think
[46:28] Speaker 3: unsolved mysteries where a pizza delivery man went to a
[46:30] Speaker 3: location and there was no house and then was murdered.
[46:33] Speaker 2: Oh god, I don't.
[46:35] Speaker 3: Know if that mystery has been solved yet. This was
[46:37] Speaker 3: a long time ago. But that couldn't offend the only
[46:39] Speaker 3: one of these things.
[46:41] Speaker 2: No, And that's what kind of makes me think about
[46:44] Speaker 2: people who drive for uber and lyft if they get.
[46:48] Speaker 3: Or people in passengers. I mean, the whole system is
[46:53] Speaker 3: just ready for people to murder each other.
[46:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean in some ways we should give
[46:58] Speaker 2: ourselves credit as a species that more of us aren't
[47:02] Speaker 2: murdering each other. Yeah, that's a good You know, a
[47:05] Speaker 2: lot of us simply choose not to murder each other.
[47:07] Speaker 3: It's just those other ones are getting the headlines.
[47:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, they get all the attention, and they sometimes they
[47:12] Speaker 2: get a lot of money.
[47:13] Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, I think that we need to talk about
[47:16] Speaker 3: all the people who aren't murdering each other doing horrible
[47:19] Speaker 3: things more often.
[47:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the truth is, nobody wants to hear
[47:23] Speaker 2: it right.
[47:23] Speaker 3: It's really boring. Get it off my feed. I don't
[47:28] Speaker 3: need positivity. I want to see murder.
[47:30] Speaker 2: I don't want to hear the feel good story.
[47:33] Speaker 3: No, no, no, I don't want to learn about a
[47:35] Speaker 3: gorilla teaching people about Christ. No, thank you.
[47:41] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[47:42] Speaker 3: Have you been in a Weimo yet?
[47:44] Speaker 2: Never? And I'll never trust those sons of bitches. I
[47:48] Speaker 2: feel so lovingly protective of the little robots that deliver
[47:54] Speaker 2: stuff on the street.
[47:55] Speaker 3: I just someone get hit by a train.
[47:58] Speaker 2: Those little guys I have a name, I can't remember
[48:01] Speaker 2: what it is, but I love them. But the seething
[48:06] Speaker 2: rage I feel when I see a way moo.
[48:08] Speaker 3: This is how I felt. And I'm not trying to
[48:11] Speaker 3: be a Weymo evangelist, but there's some logic that's starting
[48:16] Speaker 3: to make sense to me of why am I allowed
[48:19] Speaker 3: to drive? I none of us should probably be allowed
[48:22] Speaker 3: to drive. I A friend was really loves them. She
[48:25] Speaker 3: goes all over the place in these things now, and
[48:27] Speaker 3: so she took a few of us in one and
[48:30] Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this is if everyone was in
[48:32] Speaker 3: one of these, this would make way more sense than
[48:35] Speaker 3: bridge or wineger driving down the freeway because they're just
[48:41] Speaker 3: they're more efficient and they're not selfish.
[48:44] Speaker 2: True, Yeah, you're right about that.
[48:46] Speaker 3: So I think I don't know what I mean. Of course,
[48:49] Speaker 3: like anything with tech, it's like, what horrible thing is
[48:51] Speaker 3: going to be exposed about this? But there is something
[48:55] Speaker 3: where it feels like there is a chance in twenty
[48:58] Speaker 3: years people would be like, Oh, I can't believe we
[49:00] Speaker 3: used to drive cars. We're so safe now in these Yeah,
[49:03] Speaker 3: things that feel kind of like being in a trolley
[49:06] Speaker 3: or something.
[49:07] Speaker 2: Yeah, that does make sense. I will say my gut
[49:11] Speaker 2: reaction is the same as the boomer people who are like,
[49:20] Speaker 2: we didn't need to talk about our feelings when we
[49:22] Speaker 2: were young. They're distrust of therapy, even though it's been
[49:27] Speaker 2: proven to be highly helpful for people, even though I
[49:30] Speaker 2: can see, yes, everything you're saying sounds good, but I'm like,
[49:34] Speaker 2: I don't trust them.
[49:35] Speaker 3: And I think you have every right not to trust them. Okay,
[49:38] Speaker 3: because again, every piece of tech we've ever used at
[49:41] Speaker 3: this point, at least in the last twenty years, has
[49:44] Speaker 3: just proven to be some sort of data gathering service
[49:47] Speaker 3: or evil plan. Yeah, this is a fun conversation.
[49:57] Speaker 2: I just I mean, there's a part of me that's like,
[49:59] Speaker 2: but there are good things that have come of it.
[50:03] Speaker 2: It's just we have not so far regulated and protected
[50:08] Speaker 2: against the nefarious stuff.
[50:10] Speaker 3: Right, Someone's got to step in and regulate.
[50:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, and the and the we got to have a
[50:15] Speaker 2: propaganda network like Fox News that has convinced people regulation
[50:20] Speaker 2: is bad when it's why we have clean water and stuff.
[50:26] Speaker 2: You know, why there's a five day work week and
[50:30] Speaker 2: safety at work, regulations and rules.
[50:33] Speaker 3: And people forget that those things didn't always exist and
[50:37] Speaker 3: then you could die of diphtheria or something because the
[50:42] Speaker 3: water was filthy.
[50:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, and they and and Fox has convinced people like
[50:47] Speaker 2: I don't need regular I don't need the government regulating
[50:50] Speaker 2: things for me, just trying to tell me what to do,
[50:52] Speaker 2: Like they're somebody getting thrown out of a bar fight
[50:56] Speaker 2: now fighting it. Yeah, yeah, but we got I feel
[51:01] Speaker 2: like an investment group of wealthy, reasonable people. I don't know,
[51:11] Speaker 2: but I know they're out there. I just think they
[51:13] Speaker 2: haven't come together to form a conglomerate that can start
[51:18] Speaker 2: buying up and creating new media that could be as
[51:21] Speaker 2: powerful as the ones that are currently being controlled and monopolized.
[51:26] Speaker 3: Again with the horrible headlines. Yeah, Foxes. I mean that's
[51:31] Speaker 3: their entire brand.
[51:33] Speaker 2: But we at this point, we have plenty of material
[51:36] Speaker 2: to have horrible headlines.
[51:38] Speaker 3: About other things.
[51:40] Speaker 2: Stuff and bring light to it and get people motivated
[51:43] Speaker 2: to I mean, I talk about all this stuff, but
[51:47] Speaker 2: I don't know what works. I didn't even graduate college,
[51:50] Speaker 2: and I was an English major.
[51:53] Speaker 3: I was an English major as well, and barely graduated
[51:56] Speaker 3: from college.
[51:57] Speaker 2: I've still got two classes to go.
[51:58] Speaker 3: Bridger, we're thought leaders, or ultimately two thought leaders. Well,
[52:05] Speaker 3: I think we should play a game.
[52:07] Speaker 2: Okay, I love it.
[52:08] Speaker 3: We're going to play a game called Gift to a Curse.
[52:09] Speaker 3: But I need a number between one and ten from
[52:11] Speaker 3: you four. Okay. I have to do some light calculating
[52:15] Speaker 3: to get our game pieces. So right now, you can recommend, promote,
[52:20] Speaker 3: do whatever you want.
[52:21] Speaker 2: Okay, I will just promote. Euphoria Season three is coming
[52:27] Speaker 2: out on April twelfth. It's on HBO Max. Go ahead
[52:32] Speaker 2: and watch it if you'd like to. I will be
[52:35] Speaker 2: I love it. I'm a big fan of the show.
[52:38] Speaker 2: I am in it. But that don't let that deter
[52:42] Speaker 2: you from watching the show.
[52:43] Speaker 3: Please.
[52:44] Speaker 2: It's everybody but me is a gifted actor on that show.
[52:48] Speaker 2: And also all of the ones that I've met. There's
[52:52] Speaker 2: a bunch of cast I haven't met, but the ones
[52:54] Speaker 2: that I've met, I just love really sweet, warm people.
[53:00] Speaker 3: You know, people love you on that show. You're like
[53:02] Speaker 3: an icon on that show, right, I feel like it's
[53:06] Speaker 3: like you, people adore you from it.
[53:08] Speaker 2: I think that there is a faction of gen Z
[53:11] Speaker 2: Euphoria fans that definitely are the bulk of my followers
[53:15] Speaker 2: on TikTok. But I I'm not a like large large
[53:21] Speaker 2: account on TikTok, so I wouldn't say icon.
[53:24] Speaker 3: I think so.
[53:26] Speaker 2: I mean, I appreciate it. You can say it, Okay,
[53:28] Speaker 2: thank you for giving me.
[53:32] Speaker 3: Go off icon. That's a sentence like just I'm not
[53:37] Speaker 3: capable of actually saying okay, Yeah, everybody go watch Euphoria.
[53:45] Speaker 3: Follow Martha on TikTok. It's one of It's just a salve.
[53:50] Speaker 3: I mean, it's just such a lovely thing to find
[53:52] Speaker 3: on that service.
[53:53] Speaker 2: Thank you, bridgerd It's Martha Kelly. Tic tac is my
[53:57] Speaker 2: right just for anyone who wants to follow.
[54:01] Speaker 3: Do I have anything to recommend? I feel like I
[54:03] Speaker 3: haven't recommended anything on this I recommended the documentary mar
[54:06] Speaker 3: Joe Our friends the Rat Boys have a new album
[54:11] Speaker 3: that is I've listened to one hundred times in the
[54:13] Speaker 3: last two months. Everybody go find that love it. I
[54:16] Speaker 3: think that's good. Two things, two pieces of media. Okay,
[54:19] Speaker 3: this is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm
[54:21] Speaker 3: going to name three things. You'll tell me if there
[54:23] Speaker 3: are a gift or a curse, and why I'll tell
[54:26] Speaker 3: you if you're right or wrong.
[54:27] Speaker 2: Okay, all right.
[54:28] Speaker 3: The first these are all from our Patreon listeners today.
[54:30] Speaker 3: This is from Antonia. Gift or a Curse. Weird non
[54:34] Speaker 3: happy birthday songs at restaurants that the staff are forced
[54:37] Speaker 3: to sing at you.
[54:39] Speaker 2: Hmmmm, curse? Why because the I'm mortified when people sing
[54:52] Speaker 2: happy Birthday to me at a restaurant, and I was
[54:54] Speaker 2: I waited tables for many years, and I having being
[54:59] Speaker 2: forced to sing happy birds, just being forced to sing
[55:02] Speaker 2: for strangers. I don't think anyone's enjoying it, except that
[55:07] Speaker 2: part of the population that likes embarrassing their friends and
[55:10] Speaker 2: family by getting them to be sung to. That's my feeling, wrong, wrong, Okay,
[55:17] Speaker 2: I'm on the side of songwriters.
[55:20] Speaker 3: I think that this is a fertile place for songwriting
[55:25] Speaker 3: if we have the happy Birthday song. But I think
[55:27] Speaker 3: you know whoever's working over at Chile's who's got this
[55:30] Speaker 3: itch to write a new song. Let them write the
[55:33] Speaker 3: happy Birthday song and then teach it to the employees
[55:35] Speaker 3: who will then hate it for the rest of their lives.
[55:40] Speaker 2: I guess I can see your point. Yeah, I see you.
[55:45] Speaker 3: Okay, thank you for accepting that, all right? This next
[55:48] Speaker 3: one is from Marina or Marina or Marina Marina. Those
[55:53] Speaker 3: are probably the three options. Gift or a curse. People
[55:56] Speaker 3: with the profile picture of their small children who stir
[55:59] Speaker 3: the online.
[56:01] Speaker 2: Wow, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go in an unexpected direction.
[56:07] Speaker 2: I'm gonna say gift because because people love having someone
[56:11] Speaker 2: to be mad at on the internet, and I'm including
[56:14] Speaker 2: myself in that. Just the It's a short lived enjoyment
[56:19] Speaker 2: followed by guilt and shame of being happy that someone's
[56:25] Speaker 2: being ganged up on. But when you first log on
[56:28] Speaker 2: and you see that someone has said something terrible to
[56:32] Speaker 2: stir the pot, and everyone is coming together as a
[56:36] Speaker 2: community to tell them they're wrong and terrible, there's a
[56:40] Speaker 2: thrill and a sense of being part of something, right,
[56:43] Speaker 2: So I say it's a gift.
[56:45] Speaker 3: Correct, This is a gift. Okay, this in particular a
[56:48] Speaker 3: person with if their profile picture is not them and
[56:51] Speaker 3: they're using their own children as their profile picture, it
[56:53] Speaker 3: really says to me, this person's the worst of the worst. Yeah,
[56:56] Speaker 3: because they're hiding behind their children. Yeah, and we're all
[57:00] Speaker 3: able to now just gang up and go absolutely wild
[57:04] Speaker 3: on this person. I think it's an absolute gift. Finally,
[57:09] Speaker 3: this is from Andrea gift, You're a curse attending a
[57:12] Speaker 3: baseball game.
[57:15] Speaker 2: I gotta go with gift. Dodger dogs. I haven't been
[57:19] Speaker 2: in years, but the way I remember how delicious a
[57:23] Speaker 2: Dodger dog was. I don't haven't drank in years, but
[57:27] Speaker 2: the fact that you can drink and get a hot dog, popcorn.
[57:31] Speaker 2: People come through the stands with these delicious food items.
[57:35] Speaker 2: You even have to get up, and it's a long
[57:39] Speaker 2: you know, nine inning things, and there's a seventh inning stretch,
[57:44] Speaker 2: so there's plenty of time to goof off. And it's
[57:48] Speaker 2: a low st if it's not the World Series, who
[57:51] Speaker 2: cares who wins? So if you're bored, you can't leave.
[57:55] Speaker 2: There's plenty of time to not feel bad. Because it's
[57:58] Speaker 2: so long, you don't feel bad if you leave early.
[58:00] Speaker 3: I guess correct, Gift. I mean, I think you kind
[58:03] Speaker 3: of just explained my entire feeling about that. You know,
[58:06] Speaker 3: I don't really care to go to any sports event,
[58:09] Speaker 3: but this one is more. It's almost like going to
[58:11] Speaker 3: them all. You're just going to hang out whatever's happening
[58:14] Speaker 3: down there. I'm glad it's not interesting, right, because then
[58:17] Speaker 3: we can just talk to each other, have our hot dog,
[58:19] Speaker 3: and again, nothing better than leaving something.
[58:22] Speaker 2: Early, right, Yeah, what a thrill.
[58:25] Speaker 3: Just check out when you're done. Yeah, no stakes at all.
[58:28] Speaker 3: Goodbye baseball. You've had a lovely evening outside, Yeah, among
[58:33] Speaker 3: strangers and friends and no bad feelings at all.
[58:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, And you could, even if you had money to burn,
[58:41] Speaker 2: you might even go to Dodger Stadium just for a
[58:45] Speaker 2: place to get a good hot dog. Like you're going
[58:46] Speaker 2: to an expensive restaurant.
[58:48] Speaker 3: Consider it a restaurant.
[58:49] Speaker 2: Yeah, just go for the meal and a couple of
[58:52] Speaker 2: beers or cokes whatever, right.
[58:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just consider it a restaurant. My only concern
[58:58] Speaker 3: with Dodgers Stadium, this is probably a problem with every stadium,
[59:01] Speaker 3: is parking. Yeah, I see the people driving into that
[59:03] Speaker 3: parking lot and I panic. I think I would need
[59:05] Speaker 3: to be helicoptered in or something.
[59:07] Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't. I haven't been to anything any any
[59:11] Speaker 2: kind of place like that in years. Like I can't
[59:13] Speaker 2: remember the last concert I went to. But yeah, stuff
[59:17] Speaker 2: like that it does create a lot of panic.
[59:20] Speaker 3: Right, You strike me as a concert goer.
[59:23] Speaker 2: When I was younger, I was. But the last oh so,
[59:27] Speaker 2: the last concert I went to was in Dayton, Ohio,
[59:30] Speaker 2: and it was with It was to see the Scorpions
[59:34] Speaker 2: and White Snake opened for them.
[59:36] Speaker 3: Oh my god.
[59:37] Speaker 2: It was in two thousand and three and it was
[59:43] Speaker 2: a comedian I was friends with was doing the Dayton
[59:45] Speaker 2: Comedy Club and they had press box tickets to this
[59:51] Speaker 2: or whatever it's called for to sit for the concert.
[59:54] Speaker 2: And we got to go and like get drunk and high,
[59:58] Speaker 2: because that was I got sober at the end of
[1:00:00] Speaker 2: that year, but get drunken high. One of the radio
[1:00:03] Speaker 2: guys said, do you want to meet the Scorpions? You
[1:00:06] Speaker 2: want to go to their tour bus?
[1:00:07] Speaker 3: Of course, oh, incredit fault. Did you meet the Scorpions?
[1:00:10] Speaker 2: No, security prevented us from even going in that direction.
[1:00:14] Speaker 2: And then he and then the radio guy was like, well,
[1:00:17] Speaker 2: they don't know. I'm friends with them, they don't know.
[1:00:19] Speaker 2: We'll just go around this way. Went around, like, walked
[1:00:22] Speaker 2: around the venue to where the and that same security
[1:00:27] Speaker 2: guard stopped us and said, I thought I told you.
[1:00:33] Speaker 2: And me and my friend Andy, who's the comedian I
[1:00:35] Speaker 2: went with, we were so high and it was so
[1:00:38] Speaker 2: hard not to burst out laughing. But it was embarrassing for.
[1:00:41] Speaker 3: The radio guy, of course, but a loser.
[1:00:44] Speaker 2: It was funny that he was trying to impress us
[1:00:46] Speaker 2: with being I can get you on the tour bus
[1:00:48] Speaker 2: and then like.
[1:00:49] Speaker 3: Not even close.
[1:00:51] Speaker 2: Not only that, but you got scolded in front of us.
[1:00:56] Speaker 3: Oh okay, you got two out of three on the game.
[1:00:59] Speaker 3: That's pretty good, not bad at all. We hope me
[1:01:02] Speaker 3: answer listener a question. Sure, all right, people are writing
[1:01:05] Speaker 3: into I said no gifts at shemail dot com, begging
[1:01:08] Speaker 3: for answers. Let's get into this. This is high bridger.
[1:01:11] Speaker 3: They don't even mention you. I have a gift related
[1:01:13] Speaker 3: question for you. I'm having trouble finding suitable gifts for
[1:01:16] Speaker 3: my fiance's mom. My fiance insists that she doesn't like
[1:01:20] Speaker 3: soap candles or any self care gifts like that. Instead,
[1:01:24] Speaker 3: he always suggests something random to get her, like a
[1:01:27] Speaker 3: plant stand, but there are only so many plant stands
[1:01:30] Speaker 3: one can give. My question is what are the other
[1:01:33] Speaker 3: gifts I can get this woman. I'm also wondering if
[1:01:35] Speaker 3: the reason why my fiance assumes she doesn't want any
[1:01:37] Speaker 3: self care gifts is because neither he nor his brother
[1:01:40] Speaker 3: have ever asked. They are also an immigrant Indian family,
[1:01:44] Speaker 3: if that matters, which I think it does. And I'm
[1:01:47] Speaker 3: fully bright white, okay, bringing race into it, I digress.
[1:01:51] Speaker 3: But all I know is I want to get her
[1:01:53] Speaker 3: something nice for her to pamper herself. What do I
[1:01:55] Speaker 3: do here? And that's from CD?
[1:01:58] Speaker 2: Is it possible to ask them mother in law.
[1:02:01] Speaker 3: Right start forging a relationship with this person? Or do
[1:02:04] Speaker 3: we want to keep her at arm's length? Is that
[1:02:06] Speaker 3: what this plan for this person is. She's trying to
[1:02:09] Speaker 3: kind of fracture the family.
[1:02:12] Speaker 2: She's trying to cause division, right, ultimately hoping to get
[1:02:17] Speaker 2: her husband to go no contact.
[1:02:23] Speaker 3: Hmm.
[1:02:25] Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's tough. If people don't tell you
[1:02:29] Speaker 2: what they like, or their close relatives don't, that is tough.
[1:02:33] Speaker 2: But I guess I would have to ask her like
[1:02:36] Speaker 2: well before the holidays or a birthday, like, hey, what
[1:02:41] Speaker 2: what would you like for your birthday? Or what would
[1:02:43] Speaker 2: you like for Christmas?
[1:02:45] Speaker 3: I think that this another way to learn about the
[1:02:47] Speaker 3: mom is start start taking shots in the dark. She
[1:02:49] Speaker 3: doesn't like them.
[1:02:50] Speaker 2: You're learning about her, right, That's that's true too.
[1:02:52] Speaker 3: And take some big swings.
[1:02:54] Speaker 2: Yeah. Everybody gets gifts that they're never going to use
[1:02:58] Speaker 2: and didn't want and what like you, it's right if
[1:03:02] Speaker 2: they don't like it, So what then you know for
[1:03:05] Speaker 2: next time?
[1:03:05] Speaker 3: Right, you won't get that item again.
[1:03:07] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:03:08] Speaker 3: And you've got hopefully the rest of this woman's life
[1:03:12] Speaker 3: to get her bad gifts. Yeah, and once you do
[1:03:16] Speaker 3: land on one, you're both going to be so happy, right.
[1:03:20] Speaker 3: I mean, this is all again, assuming that there isn't
[1:03:22] Speaker 3: some other ulterior motive. She has mentioned that neither the
[1:03:25] Speaker 3: brother nor the fiance care about the mom. I don't
[1:03:30] Speaker 3: even know if she cares about the mom. I really
[1:03:33] Speaker 3: don't know what to even tell this person.
[1:03:35] Speaker 2: I mean, and I'm trying to figure out should I
[1:03:37] Speaker 2: be mad at the husband and the fiance and his
[1:03:40] Speaker 2: brother for being terrible sons bad sons? Or is the
[1:03:43] Speaker 2: mother a mean mom and that's why they don't.
[1:03:46] Speaker 3: Care right, Oh yeah, there are how many people here?
[1:03:52] Speaker 3: That four different people? That could be horrible. Yeah, I'm
[1:03:55] Speaker 3: assuming it's the person who wrote into the podcast CD
[1:03:59] Speaker 3: don't write well. We answered the question perfectly.
[1:04:04] Speaker 2: I think we did. I really thought your answer was
[1:04:06] Speaker 2: the right one.
[1:04:07] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. And look at this cute little
[1:04:11] Speaker 3: picture I've got. Now, I think this is going to
[1:04:13] Speaker 3: go up and here. We've got to find a nice place.
[1:04:15] Speaker 3: This is getting a little crowded. I've said this before,
[1:04:18] Speaker 3: but it's starting to feel like Grandma's house that you
[1:04:20] Speaker 3: don't want to visit. But right maybe over by that
[1:04:23] Speaker 3: little cruise sign, let's see.
[1:04:26] Speaker 2: I love it.
[1:04:26] Speaker 3: It's like could go, We'll find a place. It's just
[1:04:28] Speaker 3: so adorable. I wonder if it could even just go
[1:04:31] Speaker 3: like here, look at that. I love you to figure
[1:04:35] Speaker 3: it out.
[1:04:36] Speaker 2: You've got so many great gifts.
[1:04:38] Speaker 3: I've gotten a lot of objects. I love them, all
[1:04:42] Speaker 3: sorts of things that can be used as decor at
[1:04:46] Speaker 3: the very least, they're great.
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: It is a muddle. I mean it is a magnet.
[1:04:52] Speaker 2: You could attach it to. If this is muddal you
[1:04:54] Speaker 2: could attach.
[1:04:55] Speaker 3: Yeah, there's got to be some sort of metal up there.
[1:04:58] Speaker 3: I don't know we'll find it. Martha. I'm so glad
[1:05:02] Speaker 3: you could do the podcast.
[1:05:03] Speaker 2: Me too.
[1:05:04] Speaker 3: It's a thrilled to see you.
[1:05:05] Speaker 2: It was a thrill to see you as well, and
[1:05:07] Speaker 2: I can't wait for us to make millions off that grill.
[1:05:10] Speaker 3: No, we'll get started today. Okay, I'll start the custody
[1:05:13] Speaker 3: battle asap. Listener, the podcast is over. We're just releasing
[1:05:19] Speaker 3: you into the wild. Go do your thing. I love
[1:05:22] Speaker 3: when you do your thing. I love you, goodbye, I said,
[1:05:29] Speaker 3: No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer
[1:05:34] Speaker 3: is Ellis Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by
[1:05:37] Speaker 3: Ben Holliday. The theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann,
[1:05:42] Speaker 3: and we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Coottner.
[1:05:45] Speaker 3: You must follow the show on Instagram, and I said,
[1:05:48] Speaker 3: No Gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of
[1:05:50] Speaker 3: all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want
[1:05:53] Speaker 3: to see the gifts?
[1:05:56] Speaker 1: Did you?
[1:05:57] Speaker 2: Here?
[1:06:00] Speaker 1: Thought? I made myself perfectly clear. But you're I guess
[1:06:05] Speaker 1: to my home. You gotta come to me empty And
[1:06:12] Speaker 1: I said, no, guess, You're own presences presents enough I
[1:06:18] Speaker 1: already had too much stuff, So how do you dare
[1:06:23] Speaker 1: to surbey me?

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