# Eliot Glazer Disobeys Bridger

An episode of [I Said No Gifts! A comedy interview podcast with Bridger Winegar](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1499562159), 17 Oct 2024, 1 h 10 min.

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Bridger isn't at all horrified when Eliot Glazer (You're Making It Worse, Broad City) makes the mistake of arriving with a gift. The two discuss home decor, sleepless nights, and religion at Entertainment Tonight. Don't forget to review the podcast, it's the least you can do. Follow the show on Instagram I Said No Gifts! Merch Send a Question to I Said No Emails! Support this podcast by shopping our latest sponsor deals and promotions at this link: https://bit.ly/3Uw1W4v See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:08] Speaker 1: Well, I invited you. Hear, I thought I made myself
[0:14] Speaker 1: perfectly clear. But you're a guess, Tom. You gotta come
[0:22] Speaker 1: to me empty And I said, no guests. Your presences
[0:29] Speaker 1: presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how
[0:35] Speaker 1: did you dare to surbey me?
[0:49] Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineger. We're
[0:54] Speaker 2: in the backyard. It's absolutely beautiful. The birds are chirping.
[0:58] Speaker 2: Tomorrow it'll be ninety nine degrees, so we're just enjoying
[1:02] Speaker 2: the last moment of mild temperatures. I refilled the windshield
[1:09] Speaker 2: wipe or fluid in my car, just mostly to stop
[1:12] Speaker 2: the beeping. My entire life is just kind of about
[1:16] Speaker 2: lowering the amount of beeping going on. And so that's
[1:20] Speaker 2: nice and I'm able to see through the windshield. Now
[1:23] Speaker 2: what else is going on? I saw an hour of
[1:25] Speaker 2: Megalopolis last night. That was enough. And now here we
[1:29] Speaker 2: are ready to go. I'm so so excited about today's guest.
[1:33] Speaker 2: It's Elliott Glazer. Elliott hey Man, Welcome to. I said,
[1:36] Speaker 2: no gifts.
[1:37] Speaker 3: What is Megalopolis?
[1:38] Speaker 2: Oh my, are you not familiar with Megalopolis?
[1:41] Speaker 3: I don't know what this is.
[1:44] Speaker 2: This is Francis Ford Coppola's new movie that he sold
[1:50] Speaker 2: his entire wine business, I believe, to finance or his
[1:55] Speaker 2: half of the wine business, to finance a movie, to
[1:58] Speaker 2: finance a movie that is is maybe the worst film
[2:05] Speaker 2: I've ever seen. Oh no, yeah, it feels tough.
[2:09] Speaker 3: Wait, he's he financed by selling his wine company. Yes,
[2:13] Speaker 3: and his wine company is very profitable and apparently people
[2:16] Speaker 3: like the wine. Yeah, I've heard it's made more. It
[2:18] Speaker 3: made him more money than his films.
[2:19] Speaker 2: Well, it's going to make him more money than this
[2:21] Speaker 2: one will wow.
[2:23] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:23] Speaker 2: I think he's been wanting to make it for decades. Right,
[2:25] Speaker 2: he had this idea. Maybe he heard the word megalopolis
[2:28] Speaker 2: and thought someone's got to make that movie, and has
[2:32] Speaker 2: been trying and trying and failing and finally said, well,
[2:34] Speaker 2: let's just sell my children's inheritance and make a movie
[2:38] Speaker 2: out of it. And what better way to spend like
[2:40] Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million dollars than on a movie
[2:42] Speaker 2: of course, with a limited release.
[2:44] Speaker 3: Who's in it?
[2:46] Speaker 2: Adam Driver, Aubrey Plaza, John Voight, Jason Schwartzman. When I
[2:53] Speaker 2: left the movie, he had had one line.
[2:56] Speaker 3: Is it so? It's a long one it's about.
[2:58] Speaker 2: It's not as long as you would think. It's two
[3:00] Speaker 2: hours and twenty minutes. Okay, but it does. I started
[3:04] Speaker 2: to feel a little sleepy.
[3:05] Speaker 3: And you were in it was USA in the theater, yes,
[3:08] Speaker 3: oh wow.
[3:08] Speaker 2: And you know I saw people walking out that were
[3:11] Speaker 2: clearly like, we didn't know what this was. We've got
[3:13] Speaker 2: to get out of here.
[3:14] Speaker 3: It was that bad.
[3:15] Speaker 2: It's crazy.
[3:16] Speaker 3: Oh no.
[3:17] Speaker 2: I mean, Adam Driver can control time or you can
[3:20] Speaker 2: stop time, but it doesn't really play into the movie.
[3:23] Speaker 2: Aubrey Plaza plays a character named Wow Platinum, who is
[3:28] Speaker 2: a news reporter for the money Bunny.
[3:30] Speaker 3: How does a movie I mean, I know it's cliche
[3:33] Speaker 3: at this point, but how is it possible that one
[3:37] Speaker 3: of the greatest filmmakers of the of our era, of
[3:41] Speaker 3: the of the medium itself could make something so poor
[3:45] Speaker 3: and not get financed, Like like nothing makes sense.
[3:49] Speaker 2: I mean I imagine if this script was all that
[3:51] Speaker 2: people were going on, that would be.
[3:54] Speaker 3: The answer, right, and that so it speaks for itself.
[3:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the whole time I was thinking that
[4:00] Speaker 2: theme of this movie is very much this is very
[4:03] Speaker 2: important to your grandfather. I see, just essentially like Grandpa
[4:06] Speaker 2: wants to make a movie and.
[4:08] Speaker 3: So well, John Voyd is the first sign. Yeah. I mean, listen,
[4:12] Speaker 3: he's an amazing actor, but his politics at this point
[4:16] Speaker 3: supersede his talent. He's such a he's such a coup.
[4:19] Speaker 2: He's crazy, he's such a coop. I mean they've kind
[4:22] Speaker 2: of driven his driven Angelina away right, Oh yeah.
[4:26] Speaker 3: Far away. I mean he's there, No, they're no nowhere
[4:28] Speaker 3: near each other. I feel like he speaks to her
[4:30] Speaker 3: through like entertainment tonight. I think that's how they communicate.
[4:34] Speaker 2: That's the only way to gate to a child. Yeah,
[4:41] Speaker 2: John Tesh is the middleman.
[4:43] Speaker 3: John Tesh. I still remember seeing a clip as a kid,
[4:47] Speaker 3: or maybe I don't know how young I was, but
[4:49] Speaker 3: of John Tesh, this is maniacal of him. I guess
[4:53] Speaker 3: backstage at entertainment tonight or maybe on the road touring,
[4:56] Speaker 3: but either way, he was backstage and he had a
[4:59] Speaker 3: bowl of syria and he filled it with water instead
[5:01] Speaker 3: of milk.
[5:04] Speaker 2: By necessity or because that's what he prefers.
[5:06] Speaker 3: That's what he prefers. Yeah, crazy, that's just that's psycholog
[5:11] Speaker 3: that's psychologically deficient.
[5:14] Speaker 2: When does that begin? I mean, was his mother serving
[5:17] Speaker 2: him cereal covered in water who knows.
[5:20] Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean you mix that with his
[5:22] Speaker 3: like new age jazz and his religion. You know, wait,
[5:25] Speaker 3: what's his really?
[5:26] Speaker 2: I wasn't aware there was a religious aspect.
[5:28] Speaker 3: I think he's evangelical Christian.
[5:30] Speaker 2: Oh interesting, I believe, yeah, like hardcore hardcore.
[5:35] Speaker 3: I had no idea, I think so unless I made
[5:38] Speaker 3: that up. I mean, I know he's No, I believe
[5:39] Speaker 3: that's that's true.
[5:41] Speaker 2: Wow, all of these et reporters, Mary Heart's real conservative conservative?
[5:45] Speaker 3: Yeah you want to. I mean all those that that
[5:48] Speaker 3: line of thinking is already fascinating that somebody like Mary Hart,
[5:52] Speaker 3: you know, is like aligned with just like celebrity gossip
[5:56] Speaker 3: and la and then happens turns into like a Trumper.
[6:00] Speaker 2: I thought these people had integrity.
[6:02] Speaker 3: It's just so, I don't know. It's like you imagine
[6:04] Speaker 3: somebody surrounded by, like I'm gonna say it, like gay
[6:07] Speaker 3: makeup artists, you know, and hairstylists, and then they're like
[6:11] Speaker 3: at Trump rallies. I don't know if she's is she
[6:13] Speaker 3: a Trumper? Just because she is? Yeah? I think so too.
[6:15] Speaker 2: You know, I don't think her name would really be
[6:17] Speaker 2: in the news other.
[6:18] Speaker 3: No, no, No, it's it's no, it's like her Shazam
[6:22] Speaker 3: and uh Chachizam. Who is the guy who played Shazam
[6:28] Speaker 3: just came out for Trump.
[6:30] Speaker 2: I have no idea who played Shazam.
[6:32] Speaker 3: His name is Zachary Levi. He was on the RFK cruise.
[6:38] Speaker 3: There was fundraising cruise out of Marina del Rey with
[6:42] Speaker 3: dread Matteo Shazam. Sheryl Hines like, how did that not
[6:49] Speaker 3: end in a mass suicide? That is so crazy? Isn't
[6:54] Speaker 3: that crazy? And the poster for it was like barely
[6:57] Speaker 3: done on Canva, like barely canva, like genuinely, like what
[7:01] Speaker 3: program did you even use?
[7:02] Speaker 1: You know?
[7:03] Speaker 3: But now Zachary Levi or Shazam is like he's going
[7:08] Speaker 3: to Trump. He's out for Trump because he was an
[7:10] Speaker 3: RFK stan Wow.
[7:12] Speaker 2: On these cruises, do you think each of them is
[7:14] Speaker 2: like everyone's a loser here but me?
[7:16] Speaker 3: Who for RFK?
[7:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, for any of these weird cruises. They're like I'm
[7:20] Speaker 2: sure the rest of them suck and the bus or
[7:22] Speaker 2: their careers failed. But I'm okay, I.
[7:24] Speaker 3: Think that's I mean, I mean there's got to be
[7:26] Speaker 3: a mass illusion going on there anyway, right, there has
[7:29] Speaker 3: to be right, so you know, of course it takes.
[7:32] Speaker 3: That's the next level of it.
[7:34] Speaker 2: Yeah. Cheryl Hines, for me is the most disappointing.
[7:37] Speaker 3: I think disappointing.
[7:38] Speaker 2: She plays such a common sense character on Curb and
[7:40] Speaker 2: you're always like, I'm on Cheryl's.
[7:42] Speaker 3: Correct, and then you're just like, oh him. I guess
[7:46] Speaker 3: I think maybe when I thought a Kennedy, you know,
[7:49] Speaker 3: if i'd learned about it maybe a year or two ago,
[7:51] Speaker 3: it was like, Okay, I guess Kennedy, Sure, but this one,
[7:56] Speaker 3: this guy, I mean, he's just so bizarre. Are He's
[8:00] Speaker 3: so he's so bizarre.
[8:02] Speaker 2: The thing about Kennedy's is I don't associate Kennedy's with
[8:05] Speaker 2: sun damage.
[8:07] Speaker 3: No you don't.
[8:08] Speaker 2: You kind of of course they're out on the beach,
[8:10] Speaker 2: you know, but I feel like they're always taking care
[8:12] Speaker 2: of themselves or they have good routine, nighttime routine. Yes,
[8:17] Speaker 2: he is leather.
[8:18] Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like they're they're very like, you know, Cape Cod, Yes,
[8:23] Speaker 3: and he's very like Boca Modesto. Yeah, forget, forget, forget Boca.
[8:27] Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, Tampa Baker's face. He's very Baker's Field. Yeah,
[8:31] Speaker 3: it's rough.
[8:33] Speaker 2: Is a is a rough go So yeah, this cruise,
[8:36] Speaker 2: Drea Damas. I mean, it's just interesting. You just watched
[8:39] Speaker 2: the collision of a person's career falling apart in them
[8:43] Speaker 2: joining these loser purposes like, oh no, now I've got
[8:46] Speaker 2: some big ideas and this is the reason my I mean,
[8:49] Speaker 2: the rest of you are the reason my career failed.
[8:50] Speaker 2: And I'm a smart one.
[8:52] Speaker 3: I really don't. I don't know, I don't really understand it,
[8:54] Speaker 3: but I do. It's just so bizarre to live in
[8:56] Speaker 3: a time where we've watched social media, you know, becomes
[9:01] Speaker 3: so all consuming so quickly, but you can look at
[9:04] Speaker 3: somebody's feed, or you can just look at their sort
[9:08] Speaker 3: of like their their aesthetic. If you see skulls and crossbones,
[9:12] Speaker 3: or you see red, white and blue, or you see flags,
[9:16] Speaker 3: and you're like like you know what's coming, and you know,
[9:19] Speaker 3: like Instagram, I think, I don't know how I even
[9:21] Speaker 3: stumble on it. But Drea de Matteo, who I wouldn't
[9:24] Speaker 3: think about in a million years of but she a
[9:28] Speaker 3: clip of her floated up in through my algorithm of
[9:31] Speaker 3: her on Megan Kelly's podcast. But it's just a clip
[9:35] Speaker 3: where she's saying, I'm She's like, I'm from New York,
[9:38] Speaker 3: so I've always loved Trump, And it's like, that's as
[9:42] Speaker 3: a New Yorker. It's like, that's not how that sentence
[9:44] Speaker 3: ends for anybody else ever, It's just like, I'm from
[9:47] Speaker 3: New York and Trump was always a joke. And she's like,
[9:50] Speaker 3: I'm from New York and I've always loved Trump. So
[9:52] Speaker 3: I've always loved Trump. So but do you mean so
[9:56] Speaker 3: as a joke? Not as a joke. It makes no
[9:59] Speaker 3: but it's it's but that's the world we live in.
[10:01] Speaker 3: Dread Matteo is like stumping for RFK and Trump and.
[10:07] Speaker 2: And building buzz for her brand, building buzz her brand
[10:10] Speaker 2: she does only fans like, Okay, it's all but it's all.
[10:13] Speaker 3: This sort of circuitous. It's just a strange journey that's
[10:17] Speaker 3: happening right for so many it feels very binary too.
[10:20] Speaker 3: Oh of course, that's what's bizarre.
[10:22] Speaker 2: And it feels like, Yeah, as soon as the career
[10:26] Speaker 2: shows any signs of cracking, it's like, okay, we're rebranding,
[10:31] Speaker 2: I'm revealing that I can't read right right and moving forward.
[10:35] Speaker 3: Something there's a new, there's something is new in the narrative. Yeah,
[10:38] Speaker 3: something is popping.
[10:39] Speaker 2: Out or something's always been simmering.
[10:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, you can. That's the thing too. It's like I
[10:45] Speaker 3: never thought twice about Shazam, you know, but he's said
[10:48] Speaker 3: a couple of things that have been like questionable, and
[10:52] Speaker 3: then it's like and then it like you're saying it,
[10:54] Speaker 3: then it spills, and then it just fully you know,
[10:57] Speaker 3: it's like he's at c with RFK and now he's
[10:59] Speaker 3: just full on trump like okay, you know, like it
[11:03] Speaker 3: it just but you're right, it's just like it's a
[11:04] Speaker 3: it's sort of it comes out slowly and then it's a.
[11:08] Speaker 2: Just a torrent a torrent. What Wasuzam before Shazam?
[11:13] Speaker 3: What was Shazam before Shazam?
[11:15] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[11:15] Speaker 3: But did he was he? I think he was in
[11:19] Speaker 3: maybe like a sitcom or something. Okay, I think he
[11:22] Speaker 3: was in like some like two thousand sitcom. I'm not
[11:26] Speaker 3: really sure he.
[11:27] Speaker 2: Was in Chuck. He was then he was also like
[11:30] Speaker 2: the male voice lead Entangled, which is what my brain
[11:34] Speaker 2: goes to a rough Yeah, okay, interesting, Okay, So now
[11:38] Speaker 2: I'm also saying a bit of a crossover with James L.
[11:42] Speaker 2: Wood's playing Hades and Hercules. Oh yeah, so I wonder
[11:45] Speaker 2: if there's a you know, he's getting need to.
[11:47] Speaker 3: But that's the thing, Like, do you need to know
[11:51] Speaker 3: Shazam's politics.
[11:52] Speaker 1: I do.
[11:54] Speaker 2: I'm not voting until I hear from Shazam.
[11:58] Speaker 3: It's so weird. Even the whole thing was like Chapel Roane. Oh,
[12:02] Speaker 3: I love Chapel Roone, but I am not looking to
[12:05] Speaker 3: her for advice on who to vote for.
[12:07] Speaker 2: A lot of people are, I mean, And she seems
[12:11] Speaker 2: to be making a lot of good points and very
[12:13] Speaker 2: good points. Uh yeah, I'm like basically on her side.
[12:16] Speaker 2: But it's like she shouldn't have to deal with this
[12:17] Speaker 2: in any way.
[12:18] Speaker 3: It's so weird. It's just like leave her alone. Like
[12:21] Speaker 3: I don't. I'm sort of baffled by it. Yet, I
[12:24] Speaker 3: guess to me, is like, Okay, that's the That might
[12:27] Speaker 3: be one of a handful of people whose I think,
[12:30] Speaker 3: whose voices are so you know, have such broad appeal
[12:33] Speaker 3: that they could really affect things.
[12:36] Speaker 2: Affecting local economies. Yes, exactly, I think that that's the.
[12:40] Speaker 3: T there's college courses being taught about you somewhere. Yes, absolutely, yes,
[12:45] Speaker 3: But I mean I don't just like leave her, leave
[12:49] Speaker 3: Chapel alone, Like, leave her alone. She's great. Yeah, she's
[12:53] Speaker 3: asked for that she's asked to be left alone.
[12:55] Speaker 2: Leave her alone to make so, I mean, and for
[12:58] Speaker 2: that feeling for her to have already started.
[13:02] Speaker 3: Already it's been like three months, right.
[13:05] Speaker 2: But this early in her career. Oh, it's not going
[13:07] Speaker 2: to get any better.
[13:08] Speaker 3: But I think that's reflective of where we are where.
[13:10] Speaker 3: It's like her assent has been so quick, genuinely so fast,
[13:16] Speaker 3: and the sort of parasocial element of social media, and
[13:20] Speaker 3: like it's just you know, people are so into her
[13:24] Speaker 3: and they yet so quickly seem to demand answers about
[13:27] Speaker 3: her politics, and that when they disagree with her, they
[13:30] Speaker 3: want to like tear her to It's just so weird.
[13:33] Speaker 3: It's so weird.
[13:34] Speaker 2: You wonder where these people were three months ago, three
[13:37] Speaker 2: months what was happening in their brain politically, literally three
[13:40] Speaker 2: months ready to be activated.
[13:42] Speaker 3: It's so nuts, it's so nuts. I hope she's well.
[13:47] Speaker 2: I think she will. I mean, she's at least making
[13:49] Speaker 2: the moves to be to protect herself. Yes, I'm sure
[13:52] Speaker 2: there are a lot of people in her life that
[13:54] Speaker 2: are like, stop doing that.
[13:56] Speaker 3: Yes, I'm sure that too of that too. I love her,
[13:58] Speaker 3: I'm really I'm very happy for her success. Yeah, of
[14:01] Speaker 3: course she's exciting.
[14:03] Speaker 2: She's exciting, she's saying whatever she wants.
[14:05] Speaker 3: She's got a great voice, great voice. People like forget that.
[14:08] Speaker 3: I think when they get excited about musicians or they
[14:11] Speaker 3: get they have some sort of they develop that sort
[14:13] Speaker 3: of parasocial or obsessive relationship the fandom of it all.
[14:19] Speaker 3: But it's like she has a really unique voice. Like
[14:23] Speaker 3: I'm a singer and I can recognize in her voice
[14:25] Speaker 3: that she does like yodels. She has yodeling in her voice.
[14:28] Speaker 2: Interesting cracks at the top of.
[14:31] Speaker 3: Her tone when she hits these high notes and there's
[14:33] Speaker 3: a little yodel at the top, And I'm like, that
[14:35] Speaker 3: is awesome. We haven't heard that since like Alanis Morris.
[14:39] Speaker 2: Wow, what an interesting Yeah, Lenea.
[14:41] Speaker 3: She she can sing at the top of a register
[14:43] Speaker 3: where it cracks, but she uses it to her benefit.
[14:45] Speaker 3: It's part of her technique. And I'm like, that is
[14:48] Speaker 3: so it's so special and new.
[14:50] Speaker 2: And do you think that's on purpose?
[14:52] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely, yeah, No, definitely on purpose. It's just her.
[14:55] Speaker 3: It's just her style of like there's I feel like
[14:59] Speaker 3: because of in this sort of twee Zoe dationell era
[15:03] Speaker 3: of it all, like that the sort of like how
[15:05] Speaker 3: would you describe it, the like whisper saying that like
[15:09] Speaker 3: sort of like Caucasian Billie Holiday, you.
[15:11] Speaker 2: Know that sound like a bike corn, what a bike
[15:15] Speaker 2: horn bike corn?
[15:17] Speaker 3: But that became like that sort of led into the
[15:20] Speaker 3: ether a little bit and like became quirky, right, and
[15:24] Speaker 3: then we've sort of I don't know, there's always been
[15:26] Speaker 3: like there's always been melisma, which is riffing.
[15:30] Speaker 2: Oh I've never heard the word melisma.
[15:32] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you know, you know, like Mariah Whitney, Aretha,
[15:36] Speaker 3: Like there's always been that. But the sort of patterns
[15:40] Speaker 3: of what is popular in pop music sort of ebbs
[15:43] Speaker 3: and flows, but that always stays the same or at
[15:45] Speaker 3: least since like the eighties, I would say, you know,
[15:48] Speaker 3: like that's been persistent. But with someone like Chapel, she
[15:52] Speaker 3: has a distinctive vocal technique that.
[15:55] Speaker 2: I just find so exciting because it's different, right, and
[15:58] Speaker 2: probably because it's difficult to do it can't become.
[16:00] Speaker 3: Popular, definitely difficult. Definitely, Well you can do it easily
[16:04] Speaker 3: and just be like h O T. You know, you
[16:06] Speaker 3: can just do that. But she's just got a distinct
[16:08] Speaker 3: technique when she sings like good Luck Babe. It's just
[16:11] Speaker 3: like that's a hard song to sing, right.
[16:14] Speaker 2: So hard. I do want to hear that version of
[16:15] Speaker 2: Hot to Go, which one kind of joddo it sound
[16:21] Speaker 2: like a like a personal injury jingle.
[16:26] Speaker 3: There's a guy on Instagram. This is a terrible to say,
[16:29] Speaker 3: just like on a podcast when I don't even know
[16:30] Speaker 3: his name. Oh, I shouldn't even say it. There's a
[16:33] Speaker 3: guy on Instagram who's found a niche in singing pop
[16:37] Speaker 3: songs like b Arthur, Oh my God, and it's glory.
[16:42] Speaker 3: It brings me so much joy. It's glorious.
[16:45] Speaker 2: But see, this actually will probably benefit him because there'll
[16:48] Speaker 2: be a bunch of listeners being like, it's this guy.
[16:49] Speaker 2: Then they're going to be lighting up the comments. Oh,
[16:51] Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be getting more buzz. I hope
[16:53] Speaker 2: building buzz for this guy.
[16:55] Speaker 3: I mean it's and it's not just like he's doing
[16:57] Speaker 3: b Arthur. He's doing like Darthy's born a like talk
[17:01] Speaker 3: singing about it's so it's so like, it's so for me,
[17:06] Speaker 3: you know, it's.
[17:07] Speaker 1: So for me.
[17:08] Speaker 3: I'm so happy about it.
[17:09] Speaker 2: I saw a Vanity play the other day that said
[17:11] Speaker 2: D's bornac really it's great, which is great, but also
[17:16] Speaker 2: a little I'm like, I'm not quite sure what we're
[17:18] Speaker 2: communicating somebody that I love that.
[17:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like such a Golden Girls, you know, fanatic
[17:25] Speaker 3: that I have b Arthur on my.
[17:26] Speaker 2: Arm, be on my arm. That's oh wow, that's beautiful
[17:31] Speaker 2: Arthur there.
[17:33] Speaker 3: But yeah, she's it's a big part of my life.
[17:37] Speaker 3: I would say, do.
[17:37] Speaker 2: You play Connections? Oh yeah, this morning, You've got to
[17:41] Speaker 2: play this morning?
[17:42] Speaker 3: Oh wow, Oh I'm excited.
[17:44] Speaker 2: There's a real uh I guess maybe a red herring.
[17:48] Speaker 2: Oh the Golden Girls.
[17:49] Speaker 3: Okay, so just be prepared. Okay, I'm gonna look out
[17:52] Speaker 3: because it's gonna it's gonna say Dorothy Blanche.
[17:57] Speaker 2: That is what I'll say, Okay, and.
[18:01] Speaker 3: Its lie.
[18:01] Speaker 2: It can be very, very sneaky.
[18:03] Speaker 3: They're very sneaky on connection.
[18:05] Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like you should be able to make
[18:07] Speaker 2: your case.
[18:08] Speaker 3: Yes, you'd be like, well, but.
[18:10] Speaker 2: This actually does connect, and unfortunately you have to let
[18:14] Speaker 2: me have it.
[18:14] Speaker 3: I agree. It's sometimes they're but that's you know, they're
[18:17] Speaker 3: they're playing close to the vest, extremely close. It's a
[18:20] Speaker 3: little it's a little rude, but I guess I wouldn't
[18:22] Speaker 3: expect otherwise from the New York Times. It's a little snooty,
[18:27] Speaker 3: a little tricky.
[18:28] Speaker 2: You never quite know where it stands. It might surprise
[18:30] Speaker 2: you in bad ways.
[18:31] Speaker 3: What do you feel? How do you feel about the news?
[18:33] Speaker 3: I don't know what you call it? What it's called
[18:34] Speaker 3: squiggle it's not called squiggles.
[18:36] Speaker 2: I don't know this one, but I like that could
[18:38] Speaker 2: be in the next game.
[18:39] Speaker 3: It's like kind of like word banky oh man, I
[18:43] Speaker 3: forget wait.
[18:44] Speaker 2: Is kind of almost like a word search. Yes, I've
[18:47] Speaker 2: played this one. Anything that comes close to a word search,
[18:50] Speaker 2: I'm out.
[18:51] Speaker 3: I'm into it. Okay, I'm into it.
[18:53] Speaker 2: There's a there's that element of just uh, finding a
[18:57] Speaker 2: word among letters that write bugs men.
[19:00] Speaker 3: But there's a there's an element in encouraging you to
[19:03] Speaker 3: make words, and then when you get when you find
[19:07] Speaker 3: enough words that are actual words, that's a hint to
[19:10] Speaker 3: help solve the rest of the puzzle, which are thematically
[19:13] Speaker 3: themed span gram that's what it's called.
[19:16] Speaker 2: Do you get kind of like coins almost that you
[19:18] Speaker 2: can use.
[19:19] Speaker 3: To essentially, Yeah, essentially I could.
[19:22] Speaker 2: Give it another shot. Yeah, I'm doing connections, I'm doing
[19:25] Speaker 2: the mini crossword and.
[19:26] Speaker 3: What's your order? In all four hours, and what do
[19:28] Speaker 3: you do? Which ones do you do? And what's the order?
[19:30] Speaker 2: I do connections first. Okay, connections. You really don't know
[19:33] Speaker 2: how much time it's going to do.
[19:34] Speaker 3: That's why I do it last.
[19:36] Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Yeah, I spend almost all of my mental
[19:39] Speaker 2: energy on connections, gotcha. And then I get into the
[19:41] Speaker 2: mini crossword, which is essentially like a Highlights magazine level difficulty,
[19:47] Speaker 2: and try to beat that out as quickly as possible. Sure,
[19:49] Speaker 2: and then I'm on with my day, which is just
[19:51] Speaker 2: doing nothing right.
[19:55] Speaker 3: So you don't touch letterbox or whatever it's called.
[19:58] Speaker 2: Now letterbox reds the movie review webs.
[20:00] Speaker 3: Actually I'm forgetting on the red one.
[20:03] Speaker 2: The red one.
[20:04] Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with that one where you like connect
[20:06] Speaker 3: letters and you have to make a word, but that
[20:10] Speaker 3: word has to only have one of each essentially one
[20:13] Speaker 3: of each letter in it.
[20:14] Speaker 2: Is that like spelling B?
[20:16] Speaker 3: No a yellow one? I know colors?
[20:18] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's spelling B. Of course they want it
[20:20] Speaker 2: to be kind of honey. And yes, the red one
[20:22] Speaker 2: I'm not even familiar with.
[20:23] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like kind of like you're kind of a
[20:25] Speaker 3: connecting it actually is letterboxed letterbox.
[20:29] Speaker 2: Wow. But what is the app? There is a D,
[20:35] Speaker 2: but there's no E. It's Letterboxed without the E, and
[20:40] Speaker 2: New York Times is with an E.
[20:42] Speaker 3: Yes, there's got to be a suit.
[20:44] Speaker 2: I'm happy class action. I don't know what it is.
[20:47] Speaker 3: There's legally is waiting to be This is an unfurled here.
[20:50] Speaker 2: You're seeing the effects immediately, of course. Yes, I'm getting
[20:53] Speaker 2: my games and my reviews by straight men mixed up.
[20:58] Speaker 2: It's very difficult to keep track up. Yeah, okay, so
[21:01] Speaker 2: I'll have to look into letterbox I've looked.
[21:04] Speaker 3: I love it.
[21:04] Speaker 2: I love letterboxed all just guessing words.
[21:07] Speaker 3: I love Letterboxed. I've never used the app letter Boxed.
[21:11] Speaker 3: I've never used that app. But I play the game.
[21:14] Speaker 2: I've browsed the apps and never played the game.
[21:16] Speaker 3: Yeah, play the game. Got to get I don't touch
[21:19] Speaker 3: the crossword puzzle really, not even the mini. The mini
[21:22] Speaker 3: I can kind of. It just makes me feel so
[21:24] Speaker 3: stupid when I don't figure out the mini too quickly.
[21:27] Speaker 3: Oh okay, the big ones, I'm just like, I'm an idiot.
[21:29] Speaker 3: I'm out of here. I need like letters and colors.
[21:31] Speaker 2: Well, the big one is a project. It's not a object.
[21:34] Speaker 2: It is a project. It's hours long, yes, and I
[21:37] Speaker 2: just don't. I mean, I absolutely have the time. Yeah,
[21:40] Speaker 2: and well maybe not the energy, right, but I'm not
[21:44] Speaker 2: getting into that.
[21:45] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair.
[21:46] Speaker 2: Well, there is something we should get into that's probably
[21:50] Speaker 2: a little bit more important and probably equally is confusing.
[21:53] Speaker 2: And the podcast is called I said no gifts. I
[21:57] Speaker 2: was naturally looking forward to having you here today. I thought, Ellie,
[22:00] Speaker 2: it'll come by. He'll bring the dog. I haven't even
[22:03] Speaker 2: mentioned to the listener yet that your dog most is
[22:05] Speaker 2: glorious dog. So that's a fun surprise for everybody's They
[22:08] Speaker 2: probably felt his presence.
[22:09] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure.
[22:11] Speaker 2: I was really excited to have you here, and so
[22:13] Speaker 2: I was a little bit Yeah, I don't even know
[22:16] Speaker 2: what the word is at this point. I had to
[22:19] Speaker 2: tamp down some feelings.
[22:21] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[22:21] Speaker 2: When I saw you walk into my backyard holding a
[22:24] Speaker 2: beautiful gift bag that I immediately assumed was for me,
[22:29] Speaker 2: I didn't want to, you know, I try not to
[22:32] Speaker 2: assume too often. Sure, I thought, why would anyone give
[22:35] Speaker 2: on a Lisa gift? Okay, And so I thought, of course.
[22:39] Speaker 1: It's for me.
[22:41] Speaker 2: I mean, do you have anything to say about this?
[22:42] Speaker 3: Or it is for you? Okay, do you want to
[22:44] Speaker 3: know what it is?
[22:45] Speaker 2: I mean, do you want me to open it? Here
[22:47] Speaker 2: on the podcast, you can open it. Okay, okay, we're
[22:53] Speaker 2: getting into the beautiful gift bag.
[22:54] Speaker 3: I will say.
[22:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got these little tasteful penguins wearing party hats,
[22:58] Speaker 2: little party hats. I draw a lot of parts when
[23:00] Speaker 2: I'm doodling. Anytime I doodle a character, there's like a
[23:03] Speaker 2: nine out of ten chance that I'm going to draw
[23:05] Speaker 2: a party hat on top.
[23:06] Speaker 1: Oh.
[23:06] Speaker 2: Really, it's a little secret to doodlers. Oh interesting, I
[23:08] Speaker 2: had a unique element to your day.
[23:10] Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that.
[23:10] Speaker 2: It's an easy thing to draw.
[23:11] Speaker 3: Yeah, I only draw faces.
[23:13] Speaker 2: Well, the face can have a party had.
[23:15] Speaker 3: I'm going to put a party had on a face.
[23:17] Speaker 2: Okay, I'm opening.
[23:20] Speaker 3: Oh in the ribbon's part of the bagh.
[23:24] Speaker 2: Okay, we're pulling this out.
[23:26] Speaker 3: Oh late.
[23:29] Speaker 2: It's the book Ladies Who Punch The explosive inside story
[23:32] Speaker 2: of the View. Yes, I will eat this up.
[23:35] Speaker 3: Yes, it's by Ramen Situta, and it is uh quite
[23:39] Speaker 3: a read.
[23:40] Speaker 2: Why did you bring this here today?
[23:43] Speaker 3: Because it's the it's a great book, and you deserve
[23:46] Speaker 3: a great book. You need a good read. I'm assuming.
[23:49] Speaker 2: Oh, I've actually been in the I've been in the
[23:51] Speaker 2: market for a non fiction easy to read, you know,
[23:54] Speaker 2: to page Turner.
[23:55] Speaker 3: An expose and exposed. I love this will do it,
[23:58] Speaker 3: This will do it. There's a lot of Rosy, which
[23:59] Speaker 3: is Rosie. Then I think subsequently said that she was
[24:02] Speaker 3: the biggest mistake of her like like the biggest book.
[24:05] Speaker 3: Whoopy said nothing because she's not involved. Oh yeah, because
[24:09] Speaker 3: they watched the show every day, every single day.
[24:12] Speaker 2: They put on the cover and Whoop is on the cover.
[24:15] Speaker 3: Yeah, well, what could you do? I mean, whoop be,
[24:18] Speaker 3: Barbara Walters and Rosie are on the cover and who else?
[24:21] Speaker 2: I mean did they talk to I mean they've talked
[24:23] Speaker 2: to Liz Hasselback.
[24:25] Speaker 3: They talked to Liz Hasselback. There's Debbie, Matt Napolis. I think, oh,
[24:30] Speaker 3: definitely is this I mean Star Jones.
[24:32] Speaker 2: Of course, does Barbara Walters?
[24:35] Speaker 3: I God, I don't remember.
[24:37] Speaker 2: Well, if they didn't get Barb I forgot what was
[24:39] Speaker 2: I think it might have been written after she passed. Okay,
[24:42] Speaker 2: I think let's say I'm saying quotes from her.
[24:45] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if not, then she definitely had some
[24:48] Speaker 3: you know, had to be part of it right, you
[24:50] Speaker 3: got it. You know you can't not talk to Barbara.
[24:52] Speaker 3: But Whoopee certainly Whoodby. I'm a huge you know, view
[24:55] Speaker 3: fan and like one of the most I think it's
[24:59] Speaker 3: it's baffling parts of the show is how Whoopee is
[25:02] Speaker 3: there but seems to hate the job okay, and when
[25:06] Speaker 3: she's asked about it sort of off the air, like
[25:09] Speaker 3: in press or whatever, or in interviews, she literally is like,
[25:12] Speaker 3: it's just my job. I show up and I do
[25:14] Speaker 3: my job. But she really seems to not just do
[25:17] Speaker 3: the job but have like but resent the.
[25:19] Speaker 2: Show, public contempt for this.
[25:21] Speaker 3: She's so interesting to me, it's so weird.
[25:24] Speaker 2: Helicopter has been there for a while. I think that
[25:26] Speaker 2: the criminal is in the backyard and she's probably been there.
[25:31] Speaker 3: She's been there for very so long. She's been there
[25:34] Speaker 3: for so long. I think twenty years.
[25:36] Speaker 2: Is after Barbara Walters. Is she the longest?
[25:39] Speaker 1: Oh?
[25:39] Speaker 3: I would what? I is that right? Maybe joy might
[25:43] Speaker 3: be heavy since I think she was fired briefly, but
[25:49] Speaker 3: but yeah, who no, No, I think Joey's probably been
[25:51] Speaker 3: there a little bit longer.
[25:52] Speaker 2: Do we know the shortest tenure, the.
[25:55] Speaker 3: Shortest tenure, I would guess would be Abby. Uh, I
[26:02] Speaker 3: forget her last name, Bobby. She's the daughter of a politician,
[26:07] Speaker 3: Abby Huntsman.
[26:08] Speaker 2: Abbie Huntsman. Now, is she the daughter of John Huntsman? Yes,
[26:12] Speaker 2: the Utah politicians.
[26:13] Speaker 3: Yes, that's right.
[26:15] Speaker 2: How was that?
[26:17] Speaker 3: That's right?
[26:17] Speaker 2: I grew up in Salike and that family's name is
[26:19] Speaker 2: all over everything.
[26:20] Speaker 3: She's a Huntsman.
[26:21] Speaker 2: They donated to all kinds of things, I'm sure, and
[26:24] Speaker 2: they're Mormon, but I think they were kind. I mean,
[26:26] Speaker 2: I think, by nature of being ultra wealthy and kind
[26:28] Speaker 2: of of the world, was probably a little more moderate
[26:30] Speaker 2: or something maybe.
[26:31] Speaker 3: I mean, she's she's very she was very like TV friendly,
[26:35] Speaker 3: but kind of kind of cold. And they tried to
[26:38] Speaker 3: make her sort of like the softer antidote to Megan McCain. Okay,
[26:44] Speaker 3: and it just didn't. She just wasn't particularly interesting, I
[26:47] Speaker 3: would say, right, you know, she tried to be I
[26:49] Speaker 3: think a little more moderate, but right, it wasn't really interesting.
[26:52] Speaker 2: And the view there's not that m for my behavior.
[26:56] Speaker 3: Yeah, although they're Republican now is fantastic.
[27:01] Speaker 2: What's this person's name?
[27:02] Speaker 3: Her name is Alissa Alyssa. Oh, Okay, she's great, she's
[27:09] Speaker 3: like she's a Republican, but she's like very intelligent. She
[27:12] Speaker 3: worked for Trump, which is wild. She worked in that
[27:15] Speaker 3: White House and speaks so poorly of it, okay, but
[27:18] Speaker 3: not in a way where you feel like she's like thirsty.
[27:22] Speaker 2: Interesting.
[27:23] Speaker 3: She left because of you know, January sixth, right, which
[27:26] Speaker 3: is in my opinion, a little too late, But okay,
[27:29] Speaker 3: you know, I mean, of course, there's always that underlying
[27:31] Speaker 3: question of like why were you there? How could you
[27:32] Speaker 3: be there in the first place if you have like
[27:35] Speaker 3: functioning brain cells, you know, or like as long as
[27:38] Speaker 3: you were, But she does seem like a very decent person, okay.
[27:43] Speaker 3: And I don't know, I just I like her vibe.
[27:46] Speaker 2: She's got some skeletons in her closet.
[27:48] Speaker 3: Maybe, but she's also just like she she has the
[27:50] Speaker 3: sort of Republican answer to everything in a sort of
[27:55] Speaker 3: in a in a benefit of the benefit of the
[27:57] Speaker 3: doubt in her way or not even not even Devil's advocate. Like.
[28:01] Speaker 3: She tries to be pretty fair minded, and I appreciate it.
[28:04] Speaker 2: Tries to make you understand how someone could believe these
[28:07] Speaker 2: I think, so, yes, which I well, I assume is valueable.
[28:12] Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, but it's also like the reason
[28:15] Speaker 3: that I'm obsessed with the show, and I've only been
[28:17] Speaker 3: watched it obsessively since our do you know Michelle Collins?
[28:22] Speaker 3: Oh course, I love Michelle, Love Michelle, and she when
[28:25] Speaker 3: she went back on When she went on the show
[28:27] Speaker 3: is when I started watching.
[28:28] Speaker 2: Oh this so it's a pretty recent thing. It's not
[28:30] Speaker 2: like you started watching in middle school.
[28:31] Speaker 3: No no, no, no no, that's pretty recent. But when
[28:33] Speaker 3: I started watching with Michelle, I was baffled by a
[28:37] Speaker 3: that her joke, her incredible lightning fast humor was like
[28:42] Speaker 3: lost on the audience.
[28:44] Speaker 2: Tough place to be.
[28:45] Speaker 3: But that's where I got so baffled because it was like,
[28:47] Speaker 3: how is that happening in New York? Like I just
[28:49] Speaker 3: didn't get it. And subsequently I realized that the show
[28:52] Speaker 3: with and without Michelle is like a it's like always always,
[28:56] Speaker 3: always on the verge of utter chaos, always always in
[29:00] Speaker 3: the verge of utter chaos, if not fully there.
[29:02] Speaker 2: That they've been able to keep it on for this
[29:04] Speaker 2: long I know, And it's interesting.
[29:06] Speaker 3: It has a really interesting take on politics because they
[29:10] Speaker 3: they all have different interests, but they're good at like
[29:14] Speaker 3: digesting politics in a way or dissecting politics in a
[29:17] Speaker 3: way that is broad. But yet again it's always in
[29:21] Speaker 3: the verge of chaos because the audience seems completely like
[29:24] Speaker 3: not there. They're like baffled or clueless. It's so weird,
[29:29] Speaker 3: that's my question. And the leader of the you know,
[29:32] Speaker 3: the sort of MC whoopee who is like insistent upon
[29:36] Speaker 3: being the moderator and like, you know, really hurting the crew,
[29:40] Speaker 3: I guess you would say, is again, like you said,
[29:43] Speaker 3: contemptuous for being there and her often her job there
[29:49] Speaker 3: is breaks the fourth wall.
[29:51] Speaker 2: Oh, she's speaking to the viewer at home.
[29:53] Speaker 3: It's not that, it's that she talks about what's going
[29:57] Speaker 3: on on the production. Oh, while the show is on.
[30:00] Speaker 3: Who so she like gets mad at the producer for
[30:03] Speaker 3: telling her to rap. She talks to the control room
[30:06] Speaker 3: without explaining that she's talking to the control room. She's
[30:09] Speaker 3: like mad at the teleprompter. It is baffling. It is
[30:13] Speaker 3: truly like and what's I mean. That's what's so interesting
[30:16] Speaker 3: is that it's a successful morning show in a world
[30:19] Speaker 3: where every other like the formula of a morning show
[30:22] Speaker 3: is that sort of like squeaky, squeaky clean, right, you know,
[30:25] Speaker 3: shiny happy exactly like a very like contained vibe and
[30:30] Speaker 3: this show is on the verge of chaos at all
[30:32] Speaker 3: times times. I don't know, you should watch it.
[30:36] Speaker 2: Have you seen any big fights?
[30:38] Speaker 3: It's not even that, that's the thing. It's not even
[30:40] Speaker 3: the like Megan and Megan would have fights with Joy
[30:44] Speaker 3: or Megan would have fights with Whoopee. And during COVID
[30:46] Speaker 3: there's Zoo. The show on Zoom was off the like
[30:51] Speaker 3: just off the rails, truly off the rails. But back
[30:53] Speaker 3: in the studio there's not really fights per se. But
[30:57] Speaker 3: that's what's interesting. When it gets heated, it feels very
[31:00] Speaker 3: real and awkward, which is like, again, very different from
[31:04] Speaker 3: any political round table show anything, Right, So that's what
[31:08] Speaker 3: that it's it sort of has that electric electricity to it.
[31:11] Speaker 3: And then I genuinely like lose interest when they veer
[31:14] Speaker 3: into like guests or pop culture. It's like the more
[31:17] Speaker 3: they talk about politics or themselves, the more interested I am.
[31:22] Speaker 2: What time does it air.
[31:25] Speaker 3: The LA It's eleven, Okay, I mean I watch you
[31:27] Speaker 3: at night? Oh interesting, yeah, yeah, I watch your hour. Yeah,
[31:30] Speaker 3: certainly after hours. It's actually your former your former guest
[31:33] Speaker 3: HLN Scott, my dear friend. I'll send him like you know,
[31:37] Speaker 3: like ten or eleven at night. I'll be like, what
[31:39] Speaker 3: is what be you talking about? Because he watches too,
[31:42] Speaker 3: and I'm like, what is she Because she'll say things.
[31:44] Speaker 3: She will literally say things in gobblygook word cell that
[31:48] Speaker 3: refer to things that you don't I don't even know
[31:51] Speaker 3: what she's talking about, you know, like she's trying to
[31:53] Speaker 3: make a point but referencing things that we aren't aware
[31:56] Speaker 3: that she's referencing zero context, zero context, and so it's
[32:00] Speaker 3: and it gets very like ambiguous. So it's just so confusing.
[32:04] Speaker 3: When she's like, I have to make a point. She
[32:05] Speaker 3: gets mad too because she needs she's a moderator, so
[32:08] Speaker 3: she gives the question or the topic exactly, and she
[32:12] Speaker 3: gets really mad when they don't get back to her
[32:14] Speaker 3: in time, which is when she gets indignant with the
[32:17] Speaker 3: producers in the control room at the camera. So weird.
[32:21] Speaker 3: It's so weird. It's like, but you're on a live
[32:23] Speaker 3: TV show and you've been doing this for so long.
[32:25] Speaker 3: I'm figure it out?
[32:27] Speaker 2: Have you?
[32:27] Speaker 3: How have you not figured it out yet? It's so
[32:30] Speaker 3: and again I only say that knowing that that is
[32:33] Speaker 3: just her on she was on broad City, right, she
[32:36] Speaker 3: did a walk on on Broad City and I went
[32:38] Speaker 3: there on I wasn't on or writing or anything that day,
[32:41] Speaker 3: but I had to go meet her and she was
[32:44] Speaker 3: so like. Meeting her was like, oh, this is why
[32:48] Speaker 3: she's It's not just that she's, you know, a great actress.
[32:52] Speaker 3: It was like she exudes the kind of charm and
[32:56] Speaker 3: warmth that like you don't you don't find every day,
[32:59] Speaker 3: and I didn't I had. I mean, I met her
[33:01] Speaker 3: so briefly and then I was in here and makeup
[33:04] Speaker 3: and just saying goodbye to my sister and Abby and
[33:05] Speaker 3: just you know, leaving and I was like nice and
[33:08] Speaker 3: Whoopy was there and I was like nice to me,
[33:09] Speaker 3: and she's like because I gave a Lon and Abby
[33:12] Speaker 3: hugs as I do, right, And She's like, I don't
[33:14] Speaker 3: get a hug.
[33:15] Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, for a celebrity
[33:18] Speaker 2: to ask for the hug for whoopee wow.
[33:21] Speaker 3: Oh whoopy yes wow. No I get a hug. Like
[33:25] Speaker 3: if we're hugging, I get the hug.
[33:27] Speaker 2: Of course.
[33:28] Speaker 3: I get to embrace you like she is. She is,
[33:30] Speaker 3: that is her where you're just like, oh you are
[33:33] Speaker 3: her charm and warmth and likability as a person is
[33:36] Speaker 3: so contagious.
[33:39] Speaker 2: That.
[33:39] Speaker 3: I think that's probably that can't have not you know,
[33:43] Speaker 3: attributed to her success.
[33:44] Speaker 2: You know.
[33:46] Speaker 3: Yeah, But again, that's what's so interesting is like watching
[33:48] Speaker 3: her on the view, you can see her connect with
[33:51] Speaker 3: people in that way, but then at the same time
[33:53] Speaker 3: she seems like she you know, like hell, hath no
[33:56] Speaker 3: fury or whatever when it comes to her being wrapped.
[34:00] Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to go to a break and
[34:01] Speaker 3: she's like, no, no, I'm going to say this. She
[34:04] Speaker 3: gets mad when they play the music over her. It's like,
[34:06] Speaker 3: it's so funny. It's like every day is day one.
[34:09] Speaker 3: It's hilarious.
[34:13] Speaker 2: Do you have any good things to share from this book,
[34:16] Speaker 2: any nice little gems about the don't?
[34:19] Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, it's just about it is about like
[34:22] Speaker 3: Elizabeth Hasselback and Barbara Sparring. Oh, that's the most interesting
[34:26] Speaker 3: part of it.
[34:27] Speaker 2: I'm, of course on Elizabeth's side in every situation.
[34:30] Speaker 3: Well, I think you'll be even more so on her
[34:31] Speaker 3: side when you read What Happened Back?
[34:33] Speaker 2: Wait, is that actually true? Oh yeah, Oh, I mean
[34:35] Speaker 2: I'm not on her side in any situation.
[34:37] Speaker 3: I mean me either, But like when you read the
[34:39] Speaker 3: book and you see the way that she was sort
[34:41] Speaker 3: of I don't know the way that I hate to
[34:44] Speaker 3: say I'm manipulated, but Okay, despite having zero in common
[34:49] Speaker 3: with her as a person or her politics, I can
[34:52] Speaker 3: understand why she would be so upset, right and feel
[34:55] Speaker 3: so maligned when you read the context about what was
[34:59] Speaker 3: going on, because Barbara was a shark, and like as
[35:02] Speaker 3: much as she seemed like a you know, she was
[35:05] Speaker 3: like the real gold standard of journalism, she's also a
[35:09] Speaker 3: shark and like the producer in her is so real.
[35:12] Speaker 3: And that's what you'll get from the book.
[35:13] Speaker 2: Oh, I loved it.
[35:14] Speaker 3: So interesting.
[35:15] Speaker 2: Oh, I'm very excited.
[35:16] Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved it.
[35:17] Speaker 2: I mean, as far as Rosie goes, I feel like
[35:20] Speaker 2: Rosie history is finally correcting itself about Rosio dom you think, so,
[35:25] Speaker 2: I feel like she's coming back out on top.
[35:27] Speaker 3: How so.
[35:28] Speaker 2: I feel like there were some years in the wilderness
[35:29] Speaker 2: where people were like, you know, she's difficult, blah blah blah,
[35:33] Speaker 2: and now I feel like the public is like, no,
[35:35] Speaker 2: Rosie's right almost all the time. She says what she wants. Yes,
[35:39] Speaker 2: and we also loved her in the nineties. I think
[35:42] Speaker 2: that's correct, and it's nice to see kind of a correction.
[35:46] Speaker 3: I think that's correct. I think it's like her wisdom
[35:49] Speaker 3: and her sort of like relatability has returned right on TikTok.
[35:55] Speaker 3: I mean, I don't use TikTok, but she I see
[35:57] Speaker 3: stuff she reposts on Instagram. Right, it's very boomer sure,
[36:02] Speaker 3: not sure how to use technology. But I love her.
[36:05] Speaker 3: I love her poetry. I loved her blog when she
[36:06] Speaker 3: had a Paiku blog.
[36:08] Speaker 2: I didn't know she had a blog.
[36:09] Speaker 3: She had a Rosie had a Haiku blog. Love that.
[36:12] Speaker 3: I love her. She grew up a town, a town
[36:14] Speaker 3: next to me. I'm the Island, So I just it's
[36:17] Speaker 3: my experience with her as a kid, and watching the
[36:20] Speaker 3: show pretty religiously was interesting because it felt so close,
[36:24] Speaker 3: right because of her accent, because it was in New York,
[36:26] Speaker 3: because this yeah, and it was like, I'm I was
[36:30] Speaker 3: like a closeted kid who was like into theater, and
[36:32] Speaker 3: they she had theater on the show. It was just
[36:34] Speaker 3: all very coated, you know, she wasn't out. But and
[36:37] Speaker 3: of course I'm like a gay kid, and I'm like, yeah,
[36:40] Speaker 3: she loves Tom Cruise, you know, loves Tom Cruise.
[36:42] Speaker 2: She loves that guy.
[36:44] Speaker 3: He's so hot, he's so sexual and hot. He's so sexual,
[36:49] Speaker 3: exudes sexual. It's like what you know. But I think
[36:53] Speaker 3: time has has worked on her side. Where you're right,
[36:56] Speaker 3: there was like a valley and now she's like returning
[36:59] Speaker 3: to a peece of some kind.
[37:01] Speaker 2: Right, I'm very happy for her.
[37:02] Speaker 3: She could be. She could honestly do anything she wants.
[37:05] Speaker 2: She really could. And she honestly is a great actor,
[37:08] Speaker 2: great actor, excellent actor.
[37:10] Speaker 3: She does Howard Stern's show occasionally because they were Howard
[37:14] Speaker 3: was relentless to her in the nineties, very mean. Oh
[37:17] Speaker 3: I didn't know this, yeah, and they and so she
[37:20] Speaker 3: was scared of him m because he was a scary man, right,
[37:24] Speaker 3: And then I became a huge Howard fan once he
[37:26] Speaker 3: started doing like psychotherapy and became very, very, very evolved.
[37:31] Speaker 3: And people don't know that because right, because this reputation proceeds. Yes, absolutely,
[37:35] Speaker 3: but he's so evolved. He's so a huge advocate for
[37:39] Speaker 3: queer LGBT, like he's on the right side of things.
[37:42] Speaker 3: You never know if you didn't listen. But he has
[37:44] Speaker 3: rose on because they're now friends. She is such an
[37:47] Speaker 3: interesting guest because she's so smart.
[37:49] Speaker 2: Oh, she's incredibly intelligent, incredibly intelligent and yeah.
[37:53] Speaker 3: I guess so is he so smart?
[37:55] Speaker 2: I mean, whenever he would be on Letterman or at
[37:57] Speaker 2: least like later years, I'd always be like, oh, these
[37:59] Speaker 2: are such fast interviews.
[38:00] Speaker 3: Oh. I mean he's he's a brilliant guy, you know,
[38:03] Speaker 3: and he can play you know, he can play it
[38:05] Speaker 3: off as being like, well, I'm into like toilet humor
[38:07] Speaker 3: and stuff. But he's also an incredible interviewer and the
[38:10] Speaker 3: show is has levels that levels of depth that I
[38:15] Speaker 3: can't even describe in words that you can. He can
[38:17] Speaker 3: do toilet humor, really raunchy toilet sex humor, and then
[38:22] Speaker 3: in the next breath be interviewing Bruce Springsteen and it's
[38:25] Speaker 3: like a transcendent interview.
[38:27] Speaker 2: How long does that show go on each day? Is
[38:30] Speaker 2: three hours?
[38:31] Speaker 3: He does three days a week and it's usually four hours.
[38:34] Speaker 2: Do you listen to the whole thing?
[38:35] Speaker 3: I have to break it up.
[38:37] Speaker 2: That's a lot of.
[38:38] Speaker 3: If I'm like a in a writer's room, like I
[38:40] Speaker 3: really get behind right of course. But if I'm not
[38:42] Speaker 3: and I'm like doing my own thing, you know, I
[38:45] Speaker 3: can I listen. I mean I also listen to like
[38:47] Speaker 3: repeats and old episodes constantly. I've done the wrap up
[38:50] Speaker 3: show for stern a Bunch and I just I'm so
[38:53] Speaker 3: into it. Wow.
[38:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, And he used to be five days a week?
[38:57] Speaker 2: Is that true?
[38:58] Speaker 3: God, I don't know.
[38:59] Speaker 2: Is there a period where people or listening to twenty
[39:00] Speaker 2: hours of him a week?
[39:01] Speaker 3: I think probably when he was on terrestrial radio okay,
[39:04] Speaker 3: when he went to Sirius in the like mid two thousands.
[39:08] Speaker 3: He I think that's when he switched to three days
[39:10] Speaker 3: a week. Oh okay, because he could could do whatever
[39:13] Speaker 3: he wants.
[39:14] Speaker 2: Honestly, yeah, of course he can. I mean, he's why
[39:16] Speaker 2: do anything exactly, So do whatever you wants.
[39:19] Speaker 3: Of course.
[39:20] Speaker 2: Do you have any interest in being in the live
[39:21] Speaker 2: audience of the view.
[39:24] Speaker 3: Not particularly. I don't know, I really don't. It's really like, honestly,
[39:28] Speaker 3: it's like it's better observed from behind the TV screen.
[39:32] Speaker 3: That being said, Just to sort of dovetail this conversation together,
[39:37] Speaker 3: there is an amazing clip of that somebody took in
[39:40] Speaker 3: the audience at the view when Rosie was on, and
[39:43] Speaker 3: she's she can't help but engage with the audience, like
[39:45] Speaker 3: standing and talking to them, and she starts talking about
[39:50] Speaker 3: her nine to eleven conspiracy theories. It's like in a
[39:52] Speaker 3: commercial break people are like making her up, you know,
[39:55] Speaker 3: and she's like, you know, faya can't melt steal that
[39:58] Speaker 3: just can't happen or whatever, you know, metal, whatever the
[40:01] Speaker 3: conspiracy is. Yeah, she's like, she's she's in deep her
[40:05] Speaker 3: and of all people in the world. Character actress Christine Ebersol,
[40:12] Speaker 3: I know that name. She's let me look, she's an actress.
[40:15] Speaker 3: I don't know how else to describe her. She's like
[40:16] Speaker 3: a you'd know her face. Yeah, I'm pretty sure her actress.
[40:20] Speaker 3: She's on I think she was on SM only eighties briefly.
[40:23] Speaker 2: Of course, she's a huge imagine her. I mean I
[40:28] Speaker 2: can this is one thing I'll say. I can see
[40:30] Speaker 2: her rapidly clicking a mouse at a computer. Yes, exactly,
[40:33] Speaker 2: and that makes sense.
[40:34] Speaker 3: Of course. What kind of computer though, you think a
[40:36] Speaker 3: laptop or.
[40:37] Speaker 2: This is a I mean it's not even a flat
[40:38] Speaker 2: screen coming out exactly.
[40:39] Speaker 3: It's a massive it's a massive desktop computer.
[40:42] Speaker 2: And she was looking like this.
[40:46] Speaker 3: I love it. She doesn't know she's like on FaceTime.
[40:50] Speaker 3: I'm I'm I love it. Boomer boomers and computers are
[40:54] Speaker 3: It's my favorite thing in the world.
[40:56] Speaker 2: Fascinating combination of worlds.
[40:58] Speaker 3: I'm obsessed my mom, My mom. I'm like, I'm like,
[41:01] Speaker 3: she got the iPhone sixteen and I'm like, what are
[41:06] Speaker 3: you doing? What are you doing? She has literally ruined
[41:09] Speaker 3: relationships by texting diatribes that are misspelled and like unwanted.
[41:15] Speaker 3: She has ruined relationships. And I've said, I'm like, if
[41:17] Speaker 3: I had one wish, it would be that her iPhone
[41:20] Speaker 3: every time she touched it turned into a Nokia a
[41:22] Speaker 3: flip phone. That it was basic, basic, basic, basic, you know, qualities,
[41:28] Speaker 3: just calls, maybe some T nine but that's it, right, right.
[41:33] Speaker 2: Was there ever a period when she was signing her
[41:34] Speaker 2: texts Mom.
[41:36] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was there. You mean yes? My dad
[41:39] Speaker 3: does that still, which we've said, like, Dad, you don't
[41:42] Speaker 3: need to do this, and he's like, I know, he
[41:45] Speaker 3: knows better. I think it's so cute. But he also
[41:48] Speaker 3: hasn't he doesn't have the same relationship with technology that
[41:51] Speaker 3: my mom does. For my mom's is like I can
[41:54] Speaker 3: see her anxiety spilt, you know, spern not spurn spiral
[41:58] Speaker 3: out right, the way she has many so many apps open,
[42:02] Speaker 3: She's on so many websites. She has a ton that
[42:05] Speaker 3: are on her home screen on her phone. Even though
[42:07] Speaker 3: they're just links to Facebook.
[42:09] Speaker 2: She opens a new one every time she wants to
[42:11] Speaker 2: get into.
[42:11] Speaker 3: Facebook correct and puts on her home screen instead of
[42:14] Speaker 3: like bookmarking, it's it's it's wild and like, I don't
[42:18] Speaker 3: Facebook scares the Jesus out of me. It's so scary.
[42:22] Speaker 3: But I will go on every now and then to
[42:23] Speaker 3: just make sure that she hasn't posted anything. You know,
[42:26] Speaker 3: it's all like you know, it's all far left, sure,
[42:30] Speaker 3: the liberal boomer stuff, but sometimes you just want to.
[42:33] Speaker 2: Be like, no, not this, not this, this one's wrong,
[42:36] Speaker 2: not this untrue.
[42:37] Speaker 3: I think also because of Facebook, she says to us,
[42:39] Speaker 3: now love you to the moon and back, and my
[42:42] Speaker 3: sister and I are like, you never said this? Come back?
[42:45] Speaker 3: Like where did you? She's not she's not a home
[42:47] Speaker 3: goods you know.
[42:48] Speaker 2: She saw that on a pillow on Facebook's.
[42:50] Speaker 3: But that's what I mean. It's like, she's not a
[42:52] Speaker 3: she doesn't have anything in the house, has like kissed
[42:54] Speaker 3: the cook or like always kiss me good night. But
[42:56] Speaker 3: because of Facebook, I think she's seen enough that she's like,
[43:00] Speaker 3: love you to the moon and back.
[43:01] Speaker 2: We've got to find out where that came from.
[43:03] Speaker 3: I I well, I also don't want to know. Part
[43:05] Speaker 3: of me wants to know, but part of me is like,
[43:07] Speaker 3: just let that be a mystery.
[43:08] Speaker 2: Wow, somebody's got to write a book on the beginning
[43:11] Speaker 2: of love you to the moon and back, because whoever
[43:14] Speaker 2: that is is a fascinating place.
[43:15] Speaker 3: So, I mean, I still remember a friend of mine
[43:18] Speaker 3: when we were younger, her parents, her mom had all
[43:20] Speaker 3: those platitudes or like on like drift fake drift food
[43:24] Speaker 3: or whatever, and she hung a sign over the toilet
[43:27] Speaker 3: that said always kiss me good night, and we were like, here, here.
[43:32] Speaker 2: That's the only place that right, here's the toilet, the toilet,
[43:41] Speaker 2: get in bed.
[43:43] Speaker 3: Awful. I those spook me out.
[43:46] Speaker 2: They're very odd, very odd, meaningless.
[43:50] Speaker 3: But that's what's so spooky at them is that people
[43:52] Speaker 3: adopt them as like meaning and they're meaningless. Yes, they're meaningless.
[43:57] Speaker 3: Oh what is it?
[43:58] Speaker 2: Oh?
[43:59] Speaker 3: My favorite one that I saw was like in Nana's house,
[44:01] Speaker 3: you can.
[44:04] Speaker 2: We've got to set some boundaries.
[44:10] Speaker 3: For disaster.
[44:12] Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like those are kind of belong
[44:15] Speaker 2: to boomers, and I think for millennials it's the pink
[44:18] Speaker 2: neon sign, which is just.
[44:20] Speaker 4: Like the podcast background now right, wild drugs or whateverage, Right, savager,
[44:30] Speaker 4: get it, get it, yeah, girl boss so odd.
[44:35] Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out if gen Z if there
[44:37] Speaker 2: are any signs of their future humiliation, and.
[44:41] Speaker 3: They're like, it's your fault. You're wrong, you're right, you
[44:48] Speaker 3: are wrong about this, and this is why, this is
[44:52] Speaker 3: why you're canceled. It's so weird. Yeah, that that that
[44:56] Speaker 3: you're right, that neon pink sign is petrifying. It's absolutely really,
[45:02] Speaker 3: you're right. It's like the millennial version of like boomer
[45:05] Speaker 3: rustic driftwood, inspirational driftwood.
[45:09] Speaker 2: You want to feel like you're at the ace, you know,
[45:11] Speaker 2: when you're like eighty years old.
[45:13] Speaker 3: It's why my first like writing drop that was hard
[45:16] Speaker 3: comedy was on New Girl. Oh sure, and in my
[45:19] Speaker 3: office as like a bit, I bought so many of
[45:24] Speaker 3: those pieces of shitty driftwood and hung them. It was
[45:27] Speaker 3: I guess you could say it's like art. I hung,
[45:29] Speaker 3: like no joke, like twenty five of them because I
[45:32] Speaker 3: think it's so funny that the chaos of all these
[45:34] Speaker 3: empty platitudes coming together, where it's like they're already meaningless
[45:37] Speaker 3: on their own, but seeing you know, live, laugh, love,
[45:41] Speaker 3: you know, dance like no one's watching. Always kiss me
[45:43] Speaker 3: good night. Seeing that all in one place is like exhausting.
[45:47] Speaker 2: I imagine they start to fight each other. They do.
[45:49] Speaker 2: They're like, how can I piece of life together? You
[45:51] Speaker 2: don't know what?
[45:52] Speaker 3: How to find a personality from all of this. It's
[45:54] Speaker 3: too much.
[45:54] Speaker 2: It's whiplash, a fractured person. Yes, wow, credible, Well I
[46:01] Speaker 2: think we should. It's time to play a game. Okay
[46:03] Speaker 2: today I think it's a gift Master on releas. Oh,
[46:06] Speaker 2: I'm good. I need a number between one and ten from.
[46:09] Speaker 3: You, Okay, so I can say it. Yes, Okay, I'll
[46:12] Speaker 3: say six.
[46:13] Speaker 2: Okay. I need to do some like calculating with your
[46:15] Speaker 2: number right now to get our game pieces. Okay, so
[46:17] Speaker 2: you can promote, recommend, do whatever you want with the microphone.
[46:20] Speaker 3: I'll be right. Okay, I'm here. The shows that I
[46:24] Speaker 3: would would be promoting will have happened prior to this airing.
[46:29] Speaker 3: They will have been in Cleveland, Indianapolis, and Chicago. But
[46:34] Speaker 3: if you go to my website or my Instagram or
[46:37] Speaker 3: my link tree, you'll find dates for future shows once
[46:41] Speaker 3: those are made available. Also here in the backyard today
[46:44] Speaker 3: is Moses, my dog, who is a perfect boy, the
[46:49] Speaker 3: perfect boy, and You're also welcome to go to my
[46:51] Speaker 3: Instagram to see pictures of him and now Bridges back
[46:54] Speaker 3: on the mic.
[46:55] Speaker 2: Beautiful Moses was not booked on the podcast, so for
[46:58] Speaker 2: the promotion here, it's kind of gross.
[47:00] Speaker 3: He's the best.
[47:01] Speaker 2: No, we'll have to take a picture with him. Are
[47:03] Speaker 2: going to be furious.
[47:04] Speaker 3: I know he's he's honestly, he is. I'm obsessed with him.
[47:07] Speaker 3: It's not good.
[47:08] Speaker 2: He's beautiful. What kind of dog is he?
[47:10] Speaker 3: Well, he's a rescue, so I don't know for sure.
[47:12] Speaker 3: But every animal that every breed that I've looked at
[47:15] Speaker 3: called low chen. Oh and I've never heard of low chen.
[47:19] Speaker 3: That is him. Okay, he is a low Chen to
[47:21] Speaker 3: the max to the max lo Chin to the max
[47:24] Speaker 3: and uh, not to brag, but he is a volunteer
[47:26] Speaker 3: at the Children's hospital. Now my heart, he is perfection.
[47:31] Speaker 2: Oh that's so sweet.
[47:32] Speaker 3: He's a perfect boy.
[47:33] Speaker 2: I always feel a twinge of guilt when I ask
[47:35] Speaker 2: somebody what kind of dog their dog is, because I
[47:38] Speaker 2: obviously am rescue only. Oh I mean, but I always
[47:41] Speaker 2: feel like, do they think that I'm I run a
[47:43] Speaker 2: puppy meal? Like there's a brief second where I'm like, oh,
[47:45] Speaker 2: they're gonna assume that I'm like some sort.
[47:47] Speaker 3: Of no not although do I have time to tell
[47:49] Speaker 3: you a little a little anecdote. Of course. I ran
[47:52] Speaker 3: into a guy who I went out with a couple
[47:54] Speaker 3: of times. It was two was too many, one was
[47:56] Speaker 3: too many, and he was like, and I was at
[48:00] Speaker 3: how his dog was. His dog was named Prada, which
[48:04] Speaker 3: I should have you know, I should have known, biggest possible,
[48:07] Speaker 3: should have known. And he said, well, Prada died because vets.
[48:11] Speaker 3: Prada was a French bulldog. Prada died because vets see
[48:15] Speaker 3: French bulldogs and they see cash. And he said a
[48:19] Speaker 3: vet killed the dog and now he's suing the vet.
[48:24] Speaker 3: What And I felt immense remorse for that. I don't
[48:30] Speaker 3: know what to say. And then before I could even
[48:32] Speaker 3: really offer condolences, he said, but my next dog is
[48:36] Speaker 3: going to be a furry frenchie. And I was like,
[48:39] Speaker 3: what's a furry frenchie. He's like, they're French bulldogs, but
[48:42] Speaker 3: they're furry, and he said it's either that or a
[48:45] Speaker 3: new car. And I had to restrain, I mean genuinely,
[48:50] Speaker 3: like I had to restrain all my inner like like
[48:54] Speaker 3: pan sexual. I'm not pan sexual, but like my pan
[48:58] Speaker 3: sexual vibeness, you know, the sort of pan rescue only,
[49:03] Speaker 3: adoption only, uh crunchy vibes and just just bite my
[49:08] Speaker 3: tongue and nod without like choking him. Oh what are
[49:12] Speaker 3: you doing? What are you doing? Those dogs can't breathe.
[49:16] Speaker 2: Man, he's going to get a furry French you name
[49:19] Speaker 2: it g wagon. Oh, just be prepared world.
[49:22] Speaker 3: Can you imagine Prada?
[49:25] Speaker 2: Awful?
[49:25] Speaker 3: Those are your values?
[49:28] Speaker 2: Oh that makes me sick to my stomach.
[49:30] Speaker 3: Meanwhile, I have, like I poured so much over what
[49:33] Speaker 3: I was going to name Moses, because when you're a
[49:35] Speaker 3: writer comedian, like, you're gonna want to be very careful,
[49:38] Speaker 3: and to be very careful, there's you could go too quirky,
[49:41] Speaker 3: you could go to banal, you get caught up in
[49:44] Speaker 3: a trend. You can get caught up in a trend.
[49:45] Speaker 3: And for me, it was either I think it was
[49:48] Speaker 3: gonna be Figaro, Yeah I love Figaro or fig Tait.
[49:52] Speaker 3: But he was rescued in Palm Springs, So I say
[49:55] Speaker 3: he was Moses because he was wandering in the desert.
[49:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you found him in a basket.
[50:00] Speaker 3: He's very biblical, very sweet.
[50:04] Speaker 2: Well, let's play the game. Here, I'm gonna name three celebrities,
[50:08] Speaker 2: and I'm gonna name three gifts, and you're gonna tell
[50:11] Speaker 2: me which gift you would give which celebrity, and what
[50:14] Speaker 2: does that make perfect sense?
[50:15] Speaker 3: Okay?
[50:16] Speaker 2: The celebrities today are Number one Marissa Tomey okay, who
[50:20] Speaker 2: I saw friends and Family a couple of years ago.
[50:22] Speaker 2: It was very exciting.
[50:23] Speaker 3: She's beautiful, gorgeous, gorgeous.
[50:25] Speaker 2: Excellent actor too, and they've got her playing Spider Man's aunt.
[50:29] Speaker 3: I don't get it, just like what fest Okay, the
[50:36] Speaker 3: world we live in?
[50:37] Speaker 2: Number two Cynthia Arrivo.
[50:39] Speaker 3: Oh yes.
[50:40] Speaker 2: Number three Scarlet Johansson. Okay, we've got an all ladies
[50:43] Speaker 2: brunch today. The gifts you're giving away our number one
[50:46] Speaker 2: a job at the mall. It's a nice job, and
[50:48] Speaker 2: it could be kind of any job at the mall. True,
[50:50] Speaker 2: they've got all kinds of jobs there. Number two sleepless
[50:53] Speaker 2: Nights could be turned into a productive gift. And number
[50:58] Speaker 2: three official merch.
[51:00] Speaker 3: Yes, oh wow, Well, I mean I feel like the
[51:02] Speaker 3: natural inclination would be to give Scarlett Johanson official merch
[51:07] Speaker 3: because she's like a superhero whatever.
[51:09] Speaker 2: Oh interesting, she's part of the Marvel universe.
[51:12] Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think Marissa Tomey is just under the
[51:15] Speaker 3: radar enough. She's not under the radar, but just left
[51:18] Speaker 3: of center enough and underappreciated enough that she needs merch.
[51:22] Speaker 3: I would.
[51:24] Speaker 1: Like her.
[51:25] Speaker 2: I can imagine there being bootleg Marissa merchres, which I
[51:28] Speaker 2: wouldn't want. No, she was selling things with her name
[51:31] Speaker 2: and face on it. Yeah, do you think it would
[51:32] Speaker 2: be incredible cool or like, like, how do you think
[51:36] Speaker 2: her the merch would be tastefully i'd be would I
[51:40] Speaker 2: think I would want it to be slightly not tasteful enough?
[51:44] Speaker 3: Yes, I like some mistakes for that's what I think.
[51:47] Speaker 3: Like the font would be just a little too predictable,
[51:51] Speaker 3: not comic sands, not curly cues or whatever, but something
[51:54] Speaker 3: where you're just like, eh, copper played gothic. Come on,
[51:58] Speaker 3: you know you can do it something a little, you know.
[52:01] Speaker 2: With a free font pack or something exactly.
[52:04] Speaker 3: You could have you could have splurged. But so I
[52:06] Speaker 3: would give official merch to to Mursy tome perfect and
[52:09] Speaker 3: then a drop of them all on sleepless nights. Honestly,
[52:13] Speaker 3: like Cynthia or Evo is so she always is like
[52:16] Speaker 3: so good at fashion, and I know nothing about fashion,
[52:20] Speaker 3: but I know that she like she serves as as
[52:22] Speaker 3: they say. Of course it sounds homophobic coming out of
[52:25] Speaker 3: my mouth. She's serving, But she would thrive in any
[52:32] Speaker 3: job at any store in the mall. I could see
[52:34] Speaker 3: her at Talbots, for God's sake, she would.
[52:36] Speaker 2: She'd just be approached by Cynthia.
[52:38] Speaker 3: Talbots, what with the nose with the septum ring in
[52:42] Speaker 3: Point me to the dressing room and I want something
[52:44] Speaker 3: in a I want something floral in a missy, a duster,
[52:51] Speaker 3: a floral length duster. And then I guess sleepless nights,
[52:54] Speaker 3: I would say to Scarlet Johansson. Not because I wish
[52:57] Speaker 3: ill on her. I don't wish sleepless nights and anybody.
[53:00] Speaker 3: But I hate to admit it, but I think Colin
[53:04] Speaker 3: Joe's is so handsome that I would be okay with,
[53:08] Speaker 3: like just like looking for eight hours.
[53:11] Speaker 2: Wow, he's a fascinating pick, Colin. Yes, I know, a
[53:16] Speaker 2: free font packs. I feel like someone for.
[53:18] Speaker 3: Her, you know, a demo of a man for her. Him,
[53:21] Speaker 3: But you're saying it's a I mean.
[53:23] Speaker 2: As a good looking person. I feel like he's the
[53:24] Speaker 2: demo of a good looking man.
[53:26] Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know his teeth.
[53:28] Speaker 2: He's got a great yeah, and I don't want to
[53:30] Speaker 2: say anything. He's a very just kind of everything's right. Yes,
[53:33] Speaker 2: everything right can work in certain situations, work against a person.
[53:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it could work against him too. I don't.
[53:40] Speaker 3: I don't really get like why he's on TV. And
[53:44] Speaker 3: I don't. I don't mean that because he's bad. He like,
[53:45] Speaker 3: she's totally good at what he does.
[53:47] Speaker 2: He's not actively bad or anything, no, no.
[53:49] Speaker 3: But I'm just like he's just there. I don't know,
[53:51] Speaker 3: he's just kind of like there again, I say it
[53:53] Speaker 3: as in like he is totally good in service, completely completely,
[53:57] Speaker 3: but he's I think he's so handsome. Guess that's why
[53:59] Speaker 3: he's on TV. So handsy.
[54:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, just like if you were to flipping through the channels,
[54:03] Speaker 2: you'd be like, of course there's a newscaster.
[54:05] Speaker 3: Yes, right, just just clean. He's so clean.
[54:08] Speaker 2: He seems he takes nine showers a day up, yeah,
[54:12] Speaker 2: cleaned up.
[54:13] Speaker 3: Maybe a bath.
[54:15] Speaker 2: I can't see Colin jos in a bathroom getting there,
[54:17] Speaker 2: no bath for no level of oil. Now you know
[54:21] Speaker 2: there's a very clean shower. Jel scent that's sharp, yeah,
[54:27] Speaker 2: not even woodsy.
[54:28] Speaker 3: You know, it's he's one of these guys who like
[54:31] Speaker 3: he's from like Staten Island, and that's so analogous to
[54:35] Speaker 3: he is so analogous to Staten Island that that is
[54:39] Speaker 3: what fascinates me.
[54:40] Speaker 2: And I guess I don't know Staten Island enough to
[54:43] Speaker 2: associate those two together. Doesn't make sense in my mind.
[54:46] Speaker 3: There is sort of like a I mean, I've encountered
[54:48] Speaker 3: like a little bit of like waspy like intellectuals on
[54:53] Speaker 3: Staten Island, but it's such such a small pocket interesting
[54:57] Speaker 3: that you would never think it.
[54:58] Speaker 2: No, because for to me, it feels working class and
[55:01] Speaker 2: very very variable what you assume of New York.
[55:04] Speaker 3: Yes, it is very removed even though it's there. It's
[55:07] Speaker 3: like I'm from Long Island. It's the same, the same politics,
[55:09] Speaker 3: the same like blue collar you know, intellect and anger
[55:13] Speaker 3: at other people, like right, So it's so intense and
[55:17] Speaker 3: it does not seem like Colin, you know, would come
[55:20] Speaker 3: from that ilk.
[55:21] Speaker 2: He's running from something something. Well that was excellently played.
[55:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks beautiful gifts.
[55:27] Speaker 2: Scarlett's just kind of not even blinking. She's just lying
[55:30] Speaker 2: in bed staring at.
[55:32] Speaker 3: I'm like, and I'll do a body swap happily.
[55:36] Speaker 2: That's a great freaky Friday.
[55:37] Speaker 3: That's me and Scarlett Johansson.
[55:41] Speaker 2: She's possessed by a man who can't sleep and is
[55:44] Speaker 2: obsessed with her husband. Okay, well it's uh. This is
[55:49] Speaker 2: the final segment of the podcast is called I Said
[55:52] Speaker 2: No Emails. People write into I Said No Gifts at
[55:55] Speaker 2: gmail dot com. Every one of them has a nearly
[55:59] Speaker 2: unsolvable problem complement their life, and they finally turning to
[56:01] Speaker 2: the right source. Yes, we help me answer a question,
[56:04] Speaker 2: of course, all right, this says hello, Bridger and guest.
[56:08] Speaker 2: My apartment building has a habit of packages disappearing, and
[56:11] Speaker 2: somewhere along the line, my neighbors started bringing up packages
[56:14] Speaker 2: for me anytime they see them and setting them outside
[56:17] Speaker 2: my door, likely rescuing them from thievery in the process.
[56:21] Speaker 2: I try to return the favor as often as I can,
[56:24] Speaker 2: but there is definitely an imbalance. I'm going to be
[56:26] Speaker 2: moving out in a few months, and I'd like to
[56:28] Speaker 2: thank them for their good deeds with a gift. There's
[56:31] Speaker 2: a man, a woman, a child, and two cats in
[56:34] Speaker 2: their apartment, but I know very little about them other
[56:37] Speaker 2: than running into the woman once at Target as she
[56:40] Speaker 2: was looking for Snickers ice cream bars. Please help me properly,
[56:45] Speaker 2: thank them for being good neighbors. Thanks, And that's from Warren. Okay,
[56:49] Speaker 2: what we know about Warren is that he has been
[56:52] Speaker 2: getting the packages delivered him and assuming that no other
[56:56] Speaker 2: that this neighbor's doing this for everyone else. Yeah, he
[56:59] Speaker 2: also knows some alarming details about who's living in this apartment. Right,
[57:04] Speaker 2: maybe he has too much of a role call. I
[57:06] Speaker 2: would say maybe. And then he just happens to be
[57:09] Speaker 2: at Target knowing exactly what this woman's buying.
[57:12] Speaker 3: I don't think that's crazy. Tomato, Tomato, you think that's crazy.
[57:17] Speaker 2: I'm just going to say it's bordering on Warren, How
[57:20] Speaker 2: did you find out about the Snickers?
[57:22] Speaker 3: Because he probably spoke to her prying. Okay, Okay, there
[57:26] Speaker 3: could be prying.
[57:28] Speaker 2: And I mean he barely sees these people. How do
[57:30] Speaker 2: you even recognize her?
[57:31] Speaker 3: That's true, Well, you recognize your neighbors every now and then.
[57:34] Speaker 2: No, I don't know. It feels like the neighbor's trying
[57:36] Speaker 2: to keep away from him. They're dropping the gift and
[57:39] Speaker 2: like avoiding except for oh god, I had to go
[57:41] Speaker 2: buy Snickers and now I'm running into.
[57:42] Speaker 3: War and the neighbor could knock on his door and
[57:45] Speaker 3: deliver the right. But I don't know. I think this
[57:47] Speaker 3: is like very polite and considerate of the neighbors. Okay, Okay,
[57:52] Speaker 3: and Warren.
[57:53] Speaker 2: And interesting, right, so you're on everyone else's side, but me,
[57:57] Speaker 2: I mean there's an immediate no.
[57:59] Speaker 3: I think. I think I'm on the neighbor's side. I
[58:01] Speaker 3: do think, you know, if Warren could, I don't know.
[58:04] Speaker 3: I don't know what the inmbound. I don't really understand
[58:05] Speaker 3: the imbalance. Okay. Are there times where he chooses not
[58:08] Speaker 3: to bring their gift to them?
[58:09] Speaker 2: Like maybe they're not ordering, they're not. That's the other
[58:12] Speaker 2: thing we're learning here is Warren is deeply materialistic. He's
[58:15] Speaker 2: ordering things NonStop, right, probably from a problematic retailer.
[58:20] Speaker 3: Right.
[58:20] Speaker 2: And these people, meanwhile, I live a very minimal life.
[58:23] Speaker 1: Right.
[58:23] Speaker 2: Their packages they get are probably homemade, yes, and probably
[58:28] Speaker 2: you know, they're trying everything they can to keep their
[58:30] Speaker 2: footprint as small as possible.
[58:32] Speaker 3: That's true.
[58:32] Speaker 2: He's blasting the ac in his apartment alone, definitely, windows
[58:36] Speaker 2: probably open.
[58:37] Speaker 3: Oh god, I mean that's just he's.
[58:39] Speaker 2: Living this life that's out of control, right, and his
[58:42] Speaker 2: neighbors are trying to Warren is on the verge. But
[58:48] Speaker 2: I mean all of this, with all of this in mind,
[58:51] Speaker 2: what to Sworren get these people?
[58:52] Speaker 3: Well, my first instinct was to say, a lovely handwritten
[58:56] Speaker 3: card and a Target gift card. Oh, but when you
[58:59] Speaker 3: made it so like it was creepy, it changed my
[59:02] Speaker 3: thoughts about the Target gift card because it's like, this
[59:05] Speaker 3: is how I know you from Target. Now you're my
[59:08] Speaker 3: target now exactly, and now that creeping out. With that
[59:11] Speaker 3: being said, I always think like a gift card to
[59:14] Speaker 3: a restaurant, and if they have a kid, a gift
[59:17] Speaker 3: card to a nice kid friendly restaurant. Perhaps a chain
[59:21] Speaker 3: is a good way to you can't can't hurt to
[59:23] Speaker 3: get to let people go to outback for one hundred.
[59:25] Speaker 2: Bucks, you know you can get all kinds of things
[59:27] Speaker 2: that all kinds of stuffs.
[59:29] Speaker 3: Yeah, get a brownie Sunday, get a bloomin onion, a
[59:31] Speaker 3: bloomin onion. I think that's a nice gesture. Even if
[59:34] Speaker 3: it was just like fifty dollars. I still think a
[59:36] Speaker 3: card with a thank you for being so considerate, right
[59:40] Speaker 3: is the is the real gift there.
[59:42] Speaker 2: Now I will say about you have to be very
[59:43] Speaker 2: careful with restaurant amounts on gift cards. If you give
[59:46] Speaker 2: too little, you now put them in a trap where
[59:48] Speaker 2: why if they want to go to that restaurant but
[59:50] Speaker 2: they feel they need to correct and are going to
[59:52] Speaker 2: be spending more.
[59:52] Speaker 3: That's right, but it's a family of three.
[59:54] Speaker 2: Family of three, so assume thirty three dollars for each
[59:58] Speaker 2: person one hundred I think one hundred dollars. That's a
[1:00:00] Speaker 2: nice night out at outpack and listen.
[1:00:02] Speaker 3: If they are on the frugal side, they can go twice.
[1:00:05] Speaker 2: They could go hundreds of times.
[1:00:06] Speaker 3: They could go for five onions and are right, although
[1:00:11] Speaker 3: that might then kill them from heart attacks, and then
[1:00:15] Speaker 3: it would be Warren's fault.
[1:00:17] Speaker 2: But at that point he might be looking for a
[1:00:19] Speaker 2: vacant apartment.
[1:00:21] Speaker 3: He's moving well, he might be a back. Warren's back.
[1:00:24] Speaker 2: Warren's on the merge, warns and.
[1:00:26] Speaker 3: Takes their apartment, knocks down the wall he's got.
[1:00:30] Speaker 2: He expands, he rips the ceiling out, all in the plans,
[1:00:35] Speaker 2: all along. Snickers ice cream bars are delicious.
[1:00:41] Speaker 3: No, I'm honest, I'm not a fan of caramel or
[1:00:44] Speaker 3: milk chocolate.
[1:00:44] Speaker 2: This is a rough place for you to be.
[1:00:46] Speaker 3: Love, dark chocolate.
[1:00:47] Speaker 2: They should make a dark one, not a n ice cream.
[1:00:51] Speaker 2: I don't think they make a dark Snickers.
[1:00:54] Speaker 3: Oh I could do that. I just don't like caramel.
[1:00:57] Speaker 3: I'm not a huge candy bar person.
[1:00:58] Speaker 2: Okay, well, then this is not the cream bar for you.
[1:01:01] Speaker 3: I'm also like very annoying about ice cream. Oh, how
[1:01:04] Speaker 3: so I'm over hard ice cream? I'm over it. I
[1:01:08] Speaker 3: just want I just want soft.
[1:01:11] Speaker 2: Where are you getting soft ice cream?
[1:01:13] Speaker 3: Foster's Freeze?
[1:01:14] Speaker 2: Okay? Sure?
[1:01:15] Speaker 3: And then ultimately there's literally one place in El Segundo,
[1:01:22] Speaker 3: and my friends will tell you I'm a absolute lunatic
[1:01:25] Speaker 3: because I will travel quite a distance to get dessert,
[1:01:28] Speaker 3: a good dessert. Sure, because it's important to me. Of course,
[1:01:32] Speaker 3: there's a place called Dipped ice Cream, Oh el Segundo, Okay,
[1:01:36] Speaker 3: where they have delicious soft serve that they dunk in shells.
[1:01:41] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm very familiar.
[1:01:43] Speaker 3: I mean it is. You've been to this place?
[1:01:45] Speaker 2: No, I'm familiar with the dip because mister softy dip.
[1:01:48] Speaker 3: Of course.
[1:01:49] Speaker 2: In you Tah, there's a restaurant chain called Arctic Circle.
[1:01:51] Speaker 2: And what they call this product when they dip it
[1:01:54] Speaker 2: in chocolate is a brown topper.
[1:01:56] Speaker 3: Oh. Which that's not the right they do. Wow, that's
[1:02:01] Speaker 3: a very innocent.
[1:02:02] Speaker 2: Wow, that's just an interesting fact. I like to from
[1:02:07] Speaker 2: outside of Utah.
[1:02:08] Speaker 3: Sad whoa brown topper. That's a mistake that they could
[1:02:14] Speaker 3: never have seen coming. I guess.
[1:02:16] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:02:17] Speaker 2: Wow tough.
[1:02:18] Speaker 1: Uh.
[1:02:18] Speaker 2: I don't know if they've changed it, but it's an
[1:02:20] Speaker 2: interesting Uh.
[1:02:21] Speaker 3: Well, well, dipped ice cream is a huge brown topper.
[1:02:25] Speaker 2: And wait, what's theme of the place in El Segundo
[1:02:28] Speaker 2: dipped dipped ice cream, kipped cone or something? Have you
[1:02:30] Speaker 2: been to heavy Handed? This is also a drive. It's
[1:02:33] Speaker 2: in Studio City.
[1:02:35] Speaker 3: Heavy Handed.
[1:02:35] Speaker 2: Now, it's the best soft service cream I've ever Oh
[1:02:37] Speaker 2: my god, tell me everything. They only have three flavors
[1:02:40] Speaker 2: I believe, chocolate, vanilla, and actually maybe just swirl. But
[1:02:44] Speaker 2: it's so well made. I've never had soft served like
[1:02:46] Speaker 2: this before. I'm like this, the care put into this product,
[1:02:50] Speaker 2: I mean, it so unnecessary. They'll do a dip, they
[1:02:53] Speaker 2: do multiple dips.
[1:02:54] Speaker 3: Okay, this is important to me.
[1:02:55] Speaker 2: Heavy handed, Yeah, heavy handed, delicious, absolutely wonderful ice cream
[1:02:59] Speaker 2: cut that's on my rate are now it feels like
[1:03:01] Speaker 2: soft serve is kind of making a swing back.
[1:03:03] Speaker 3: I feel like it is. I don't know. I don't
[1:03:05] Speaker 3: know at what point I just lost interest in hard
[1:03:07] Speaker 3: ice cream, but I just did. I just did, and
[1:03:10] Speaker 3: I love because you know what it is, quite honestly,
[1:03:13] Speaker 3: the ice cream is less about the ice cream and
[1:03:15] Speaker 3: more about the dip, the brown topper, or I want, genuinely,
[1:03:21] Speaker 3: I want an obscene amount of sprinkles, to the point
[1:03:23] Speaker 3: that I can't even see the ice.
[1:03:24] Speaker 2: Cream colored sprinkles or chocolate sprinkle colored. Oh I love
[1:03:27] Speaker 2: a chocolate sprinkle over an ice cream soft serve.
[1:03:30] Speaker 3: Give me both, but I want I don't want to
[1:03:31] Speaker 3: see the ice cream. I don't want to see ice cream.
[1:03:36] Speaker 3: I want to see sprinkles. And then I want extras
[1:03:38] Speaker 3: to dip this, dip the ice cream into as you eat. Yes,
[1:03:43] Speaker 3: I love the texture. The texture marriage there.
[1:03:45] Speaker 2: You really don't find a texture like sprinkles anywhere else
[1:03:47] Speaker 2: in nature.
[1:03:48] Speaker 3: No, And you know, at these sort of bespoke places,
[1:03:50] Speaker 3: even like Magpies, which is say, it's good, but they
[1:03:54] Speaker 3: do that sort of like Whole Foods sprinkles that are
[1:03:58] Speaker 3: not bright enough and they just kind of like dirizzaletle
[1:04:01] Speaker 3: couple on and it's like no, no, no, this isn't
[1:04:03] Speaker 3: a garnish. This is half the meal for me.
[1:04:07] Speaker 2: This is a protective shell from the ice This.
[1:04:09] Speaker 3: Is a protective shell. Give me the I don't want
[1:04:11] Speaker 3: to see the ice cream, but they have those, like
[1:04:14] Speaker 3: you know, lay mass sprinkles.
[1:04:15] Speaker 2: Right justice the toppings bar. There leaves a lot to
[1:04:18] Speaker 2: be desired.
[1:04:19] Speaker 3: It's fun, It's like, oh, honeycomb, that's fun. But then
[1:04:22] Speaker 3: it's like all right, all right, I get it. I'm
[1:04:27] Speaker 3: going to Foster's Freeze, which we don't really have that
[1:04:30] Speaker 3: like in New York. Like I feel like mister Softy
[1:04:33] Speaker 3: out of the truck, which is perfection, but also like
[1:04:36] Speaker 3: comes in exhaust like you comes in exhaust. There used
[1:04:40] Speaker 3: to be tcby, which I was obsessed with it as
[1:04:43] Speaker 3: a kid, But we don't really like New York, but
[1:04:46] Speaker 3: especially like the northeastern region, even like New England. Hard
[1:04:50] Speaker 3: ice cream is the stuff.
[1:04:52] Speaker 2: That's all you get.
[1:04:52] Speaker 3: That's all you get.
[1:04:53] Speaker 2: It's excellent made, but.
[1:04:54] Speaker 3: You hate it. I don't hate it. I'm just like
[1:04:56] Speaker 3: don't like it. I could take it or leave it. Yeah,
[1:04:58] Speaker 3: I could take it or leave it. Yeah, could take
[1:05:00] Speaker 3: it or leave it. Give me I need That's why
[1:05:02] Speaker 3: I mean, we never had like dairy what's it called
[1:05:04] Speaker 3: dairy Freeze, Dairy Freeze, dairy Queen. We had actually on
[1:05:09] Speaker 3: Long Island, we had someone called dairy Barn, which is
[1:05:11] Speaker 3: like a drive through.
[1:05:12] Speaker 2: Oh.
[1:05:12] Speaker 3: I like it's so rustic sounding for the least rustic
[1:05:15] Speaker 3: place on Earth. But they didn't have like ice cream
[1:05:18] Speaker 3: or anything. It was just groceries that someone gave to you. Yeah,
[1:05:22] Speaker 3: it's so weird.
[1:05:23] Speaker 2: I hope you could at least buy milk.
[1:05:25] Speaker 3: You could. That's what kind of what it was for.
[1:05:27] Speaker 2: That's what it started with. Unless you were John Tesh
[1:05:29] Speaker 2: right by water and Flakes. Well, yeah, you support your
[1:05:37] Speaker 2: soft serve journey.
[1:05:38] Speaker 3: Thank you.
[1:05:39] Speaker 2: I'm just kind of getting into it now. But I'm
[1:05:42] Speaker 2: going to go to DiPT.
[1:05:44] Speaker 3: Yes, It's it's worth the trip. I'm a big fan.
[1:05:46] Speaker 2: I'm very excited about this, and I'm excited. I think
[1:05:49] Speaker 2: you've kind of converted me to the View.
[1:05:50] Speaker 3: I think you're gonna like it.
[1:05:52] Speaker 2: This is the exact type of television I'm looking to.
[1:05:54] Speaker 3: What if, like in a week, you're like watching the View,
[1:05:57] Speaker 3: listening to Howard Stern wearing your clothes. My clothes, by
[1:06:02] Speaker 3: the way, I wore my short shorts because Alan h
[1:06:04] Speaker 3: Allen my friend was talking about short shorts on this podcast,
[1:06:08] Speaker 3: right and decrying them because he likes to wear his
[1:06:10] Speaker 3: long sort of Billie Eilish, you know angle length capri, Yeah, Capri,
[1:06:16] Speaker 3: pant Janko short shorts, and I wear mine with pride.
[1:06:20] Speaker 2: You've got to wear a short short.
[1:06:21] Speaker 3: I wear them with pride.
[1:06:22] Speaker 2: Everybody's got to get their legs out there.
[1:06:24] Speaker 3: I love that guy's show legs now. Oh of course
[1:06:27] Speaker 3: the in seems you're getting higher and higher straight guys too,
[1:06:30] Speaker 3: and I love it.
[1:06:30] Speaker 2: I think it's fight against the basketball short.
[1:06:33] Speaker 3: Fight against it. Paul Meskill like lead the.
[1:06:36] Speaker 2: Doing an incredible job.
[1:06:38] Speaker 3: He's doing a service, short service, all men, all men, Yes,
[1:06:41] Speaker 3: I love it.
[1:06:42] Speaker 2: Fantastic. Everybody put on your short shorts. Watch the view
[1:06:45] Speaker 2: that's eat brown topper.
[1:06:47] Speaker 3: I think nothing of it, like nothing is more to me,
[1:06:50] Speaker 3: like when if I if you were to ask me
[1:06:52] Speaker 3: about myself, to describe myself, like I never ever ever
[1:06:57] Speaker 3: gave a shit about astrology, sign horoscopes, but the more
[1:07:01] Speaker 3: you know, obviously I'm in la. All of course, my
[1:07:04] Speaker 3: friends people are always into horoscopes. So I understand the
[1:07:07] Speaker 3: idea that as a Gemini I have I could have
[1:07:09] Speaker 3: two personalities. Oh sure, whatever, it is like just you know,
[1:07:13] Speaker 3: twin personalities. And I used to like kind of like,
[1:07:16] Speaker 3: you know, sort of wave it away as nonsense, and
[1:07:20] Speaker 3: then in recent years it's like God, I listened to
[1:07:22] Speaker 3: I worship like Howard Stern and like the view like
[1:07:26] Speaker 3: this is these are my things that I'm oh, I
[1:07:28] Speaker 3: can't miss, and it's like they couldn't be you know, further.
[1:07:31] Speaker 2: Apart, you're essentially two face.
[1:07:33] Speaker 3: I'm two face, So I guess that's it. I'm a Gemini.
[1:07:36] Speaker 3: I'm a double Gemini, owned the Gemini. I'm owning it.
[1:07:38] Speaker 2: I support that. I'm a Libra and apparently it's the
[1:07:41] Speaker 2: source of almost every one of my problems.
[1:07:43] Speaker 3: Okay, I mean at this point, I just it's you're
[1:07:45] Speaker 3: in la. So what can you do except throw your
[1:07:46] Speaker 3: hands up and go, okay, sure got me, you got me.
[1:07:50] Speaker 2: Well, thank you for the book. I'm going to be
[1:07:52] Speaker 2: diving into this, maybe reading, then watching and then watching
[1:07:54] Speaker 2: and then reading.
[1:07:55] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, very different from the book. The show is
[1:07:58] Speaker 3: very different from the book that you're gonna that you're
[1:07:59] Speaker 3: gonna read. In the Boo Book, Michelle, you're reading the book,
[1:08:01] Speaker 3: but it's still delightful and chaotic, truly, truly late, it's chaotic.
[1:08:06] Speaker 2: I cannot wait. Well, thank you for being here, thank
[1:08:08] Speaker 2: you for having me. I've had a delightful time. And listener,
[1:08:11] Speaker 2: the podcast is over. We've heard so many helicopters today,
[1:08:16] Speaker 2: and I hope you were keeping count at least seven.
[1:08:20] Speaker 2: Well I was obviously wasn't keeping count. But the podcast
[1:08:24] Speaker 2: is over. Get moving, do whatever you need to do.
[1:08:27] Speaker 2: I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an
[1:08:34] Speaker 2: exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson,
[1:08:39] Speaker 2: and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't
[1:08:42] Speaker 2: do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song,
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Man.
[1:08:50] Speaker 2: You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said
[1:08:53] Speaker 2: no Gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's
[1:08:56] Speaker 2: where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous
[1:08:58] Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures
[1:09:00] Speaker 2: of the gifts.
[1:09:02] Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.
[1:09:11] Speaker 3: But you're a guess to my home.
[1:09:15] Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guess,
[1:09:21] Speaker 1: you're own presences, presents enough that I already had too
[1:09:27] Speaker 1: much stuff. So how did you dare to surbey me?

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