# John Milhiser Disobeys Bridger

An episode of [I Said No Gifts! A comedy interview podcast with Bridger Winegar](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1499562159), 14 Dec 2023, 58 min.

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Bridger resists a tantrum when John Milhiser (SNL) corners him with an unexpected gift. The two discuss fraud, low light photos, and crafting. Don't forget to review the podcast, it's the least you can do. Follow the show on Instagram I Said No Gifts! Merch Send a Question to I Said No Emails! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:08] Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.
[0:17] Speaker 2: But you're a guest in my home.
[0:21] Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guest,
[0:27] Speaker 1: your presences presents enough that I already had too much stuff.
[0:35] Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me?
[0:48] Speaker 3: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. We're
[0:54] Speaker 3: in the backyard. We're deep into the holidays at this point.
[0:58] Speaker 3: The holidays are all around us. That's exciting. I hope
[1:03] Speaker 3: you're taking advantage of, you know, the extended holiday hours
[1:07] Speaker 3: at your favorite retailer, this sort of thing. It's a
[1:10] Speaker 3: great time to buy gifts for your if you're you know,
[1:14] Speaker 3: busy or just pantry staples. I like to go like
[1:17] Speaker 3: eleven o'clock at night to buy my eggs or that
[1:21] Speaker 3: kind of thing. So do whatever you want. I don't care.
[1:24] Speaker 3: Let's get into the podcast. Today's guest is just wonderful.
[1:27] Speaker 3: It's John Milheiser. John, Welcome to. I said, no gifts.
[1:31] Speaker 2: Ah, thank you for having me. I love your yard,
[1:34] Speaker 2: the greeneries gorgeous.
[1:36] Speaker 3: Oh, thank you very much. I'm not sure what to
[1:38] Speaker 3: do with the weather right now, because this is the
[1:40] Speaker 3: first episode we've recorded in a while where I can't
[1:42] Speaker 3: tell if I should have a jacket on or not.
[1:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, we're recording this at four pm, so I figure it.
[1:48] Speaker 2: I was like, better dress warm.
[1:50] Speaker 3: Yes, we've got a layered look happening. Yeah, but I
[1:54] Speaker 3: walked outside with the jacket on and there was a
[1:57] Speaker 3: wave of warmth.
[1:58] Speaker 2: Hmm.
[1:59] Speaker 3: But I feel like I'm gonna be putting my jacket
[2:00] Speaker 3: on at some point during the podcast.
[2:03] Speaker 2: The sun's last dish of warmth. Yes, it so it
[2:06] Speaker 2: retires for the night.
[2:07] Speaker 3: Don't panic if I start to put a jacket on,
[2:10] Speaker 3: that'll just be part of this.
[2:11] Speaker 2: Please do so a part of the show. Keep layering up.
[2:15] Speaker 2: How are you doing? I'm doing swell.
[2:17] Speaker 3: There is something I want to ask you about. You
[2:19] Speaker 3: were going to record a couple of months ago.
[2:21] Speaker 2: Numerous times, Yes, and I feel like the most recent
[2:25] Speaker 2: you had jury duty.
[2:27] Speaker 3: Yes.
[2:27] Speaker 2: I did well on the interview for jury duty. I
[2:31] Speaker 2: kind of knew I was going to get it because
[2:33] Speaker 2: the whole time through the interview process, all the other
[2:38] Speaker 2: juror applicants were coming up with excuses, being like I
[2:42] Speaker 2: don't speak English right right, and they would speak perfect
[2:45] Speaker 2: English in the hallway, or someone would be like, I
[2:49] Speaker 2: have anxiety talking to people and talking in front of people.
[2:52] Speaker 2: Just this talking right now out loud is making me
[2:55] Speaker 2: very nervous. I was like, oh my gosh. So I
[2:58] Speaker 2: felt like, you know what, we're on strike. It's a
[3:02] Speaker 2: good time too. It might be fun sure to see
[3:05] Speaker 2: lawyers in action, like the judge in action. She was
[3:09] Speaker 2: very nice. And then it went on for six weeks
[3:12] Speaker 2: and that's fine. Yeah, so oh what a trap?
[3:18] Speaker 3: Yeah, did you put in a real effort to get
[3:20] Speaker 3: onto the onto jury or where you're just like, I'll
[3:23] Speaker 3: give them my honest self and see what they'd do
[3:25] Speaker 3: with it.
[3:26] Speaker 2: Well, I was going to give them my honest self.
[3:28] Speaker 2: I've gone in for the you know, the assembly room
[3:33] Speaker 2: where you wait for a little bit and then they're
[3:34] Speaker 2: like they read your number, like you can go. I've
[3:37] Speaker 2: always felt like a little like I didn't even make
[3:39] Speaker 2: it to the next level. So this time I was
[3:41] Speaker 2: brought into a courtroom. I was like, I've never been
[3:43] Speaker 2: in a courtroom before, not going to root and so
[3:47] Speaker 2: I was like, all right, let me take this seriously.
[3:50] Speaker 2: And they went around interview. It took a couple of days,
[3:52] Speaker 2: maybe two and a half days for the whole interview
[3:54] Speaker 2: process had to keep coming back and I saw they
[3:57] Speaker 2: were asking people questions and I was like, there was
[4:00] Speaker 2: like thirty five applicants. I kept waiting for them to
[4:04] Speaker 2: come to me. I was like, Oh, they're asking this
[4:05] Speaker 2: in this question. I was like, what am I going
[4:07] Speaker 2: to say? Am I an actor? Am my comedian? Writer? Like?
[4:12] Speaker 2: What should I go with? And so I was like, well,
[4:14] Speaker 2: I'll say actor, comedian and then I'll prep a joke.
[4:17] Speaker 2: And so I had that already, and then the judge
[4:19] Speaker 2: when it came time for me, she's like, all right,
[4:23] Speaker 2: is anybody in your family a lawyer? Is like my brother.
[4:25] Speaker 2: She's like, okay, that's enough. And I was like, oh,
[4:26] Speaker 2: you didn't ask anything else. I was all prepsed. I
[4:29] Speaker 2: had a monologue. That's all you got.
[4:32] Speaker 3: I asked, yeah, wow?
[4:34] Speaker 2: Or like do I ever talk to my brother about
[4:36] Speaker 2: his cases or anything? I don't know.
[4:39] Speaker 3: So it probably showed like you a working knowledge of
[4:43] Speaker 3: how justice works, right, but not enough to bias you.
[4:48] Speaker 2: Yes, yeah wow.
[4:49] Speaker 3: And then six weeks I wonder, I just the summer
[4:52] Speaker 3: was I made it to that step where you're wasting
[4:54] Speaker 3: an enormous amount of time in a courtroom, right, Just
[4:57] Speaker 3: a questionnaire. But we got to a point when we
[5:01] Speaker 3: went back in. This was after three days and the
[5:03] Speaker 3: judge said it's over. The defendant had made a plea
[5:07] Speaker 3: or something. I mean, we all knew he was guilty.
[5:09] Speaker 3: This guy was. There was some It was a bummer situation,
[5:13] Speaker 3: and so I didn't even get the chance to get
[5:17] Speaker 3: called in.
[5:18] Speaker 2: There was excuses galore.
[5:21] Speaker 3: And the way they used time, I mean, the least
[5:25] Speaker 3: efficient thing I've ever seen happen. Yeah, the in and
[5:28] Speaker 3: out and did you have a lot of sidebars with
[5:31] Speaker 3: the judge.
[5:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna ask the dre to step out in
[5:35] Speaker 2: the hallway. We had to do that plenty of times,
[5:37] Speaker 2: so many. The first objection once the case started, the
[5:40] Speaker 2: first objection I heard, I went I audibly gassed. I
[5:43] Speaker 2: was like, oh, I was like, oh my gosh, it
[5:46] Speaker 2: just happened, objection. But then that happened like fifty times
[5:50] Speaker 2: a day, and I was like, oh, objection really yeah, And.
[5:54] Speaker 3: Then every time they bring you back in they have
[5:55] Speaker 3: to call you by numbers, so it's like it takes
[5:58] Speaker 3: it well.
[5:59] Speaker 2: We had to line up in or right. We had
[6:00] Speaker 2: to like scurry up and get into line. Another like
[6:03] Speaker 2: half hour tacked onto everything. We had binders, and every
[6:06] Speaker 2: time they'd be like, can we have the jury to leave? Like,
[6:09] Speaker 2: your butt is flat against this flat wooden seat. Seemed
[6:14] Speaker 2: to be like like, yeah, it probably wasn't good for
[6:19] Speaker 2: the butt. Those seats terrible for the one woman brought
[6:22] Speaker 2: in a pillow to sit on.
[6:24] Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, it's like a flight bring in a
[6:27] Speaker 3: neck pillow or something. What were you doing to entertain
[6:29] Speaker 3: yourself in the in betweens?
[6:31] Speaker 2: Well, we weren't allowed to talk to the other fellow
[6:34] Speaker 2: jurors about the case, so what was I going to
[6:37] Speaker 2: talk to them about? Anyway? Every nobody made eye contact
[6:40] Speaker 2: once we left, only like when we lined up, or
[6:42] Speaker 2: like when they were calling jurors, like for attendance at
[6:45] Speaker 2: the top of the day, and during number one was
[6:48] Speaker 2: always late, always like Durrow one, and everybody would like
[6:53] Speaker 2: look at each other and be like that durrew one,
[6:55] Speaker 2: he's like delaying our day. Oh and then his wife
[6:59] Speaker 2: came in and she's a famous well not face, she's
[7:02] Speaker 2: on TV. She's meteorrologist and she's on my local news.
[7:05] Speaker 2: And I was like, oh what, yeah, wait, what, like
[7:07] Speaker 2: I know you? Why was his wife there at all?
[7:09] Speaker 2: Dropping off lunch and like showing her face and like say,
[7:12] Speaker 2: waving to beeple. I was like, oh, people are showing
[7:15] Speaker 2: their spouses. And one juror who she was an older woman,
[7:20] Speaker 2: her husband sat on the bench outside in the hallway
[7:24] Speaker 2: for six weeks while she was inside. Oh that's very sweet, Yeah,
[7:28] Speaker 2: because she couldn't drive herself and he just waited there
[7:30] Speaker 2: and like listened to a game on his phone. Wow.
[7:34] Speaker 2: And then once we were in the deliberating room where
[7:37] Speaker 2: we finally got to talk to each other, she was like,
[7:39] Speaker 2: I met my husband on jury duty. I saw that
[7:43] Speaker 2: he was probably going to be picked for jury duty,
[7:46] Speaker 2: and I tried to give my best interview possible so
[7:48] Speaker 2: I could get on the jury so I could like
[7:50] Speaker 2: talk to him. And then we didn't talk to the
[7:53] Speaker 2: trial was over, and then we started dating and got married,
[7:57] Speaker 2: and I was like, Wow, what a story to hear
[7:58] Speaker 2: from a fellow juror.
[8:00] Speaker 3: That is fascinating. Yeah, and for I mean, what patients
[8:04] Speaker 3: she had to wait all six weeks, Yeah, just had
[8:07] Speaker 3: her eye on him, just waiting, and that could have
[8:09] Speaker 3: been a huge disappointment. Yeah, that could have fallen apart
[8:12] Speaker 3: in the biggest way possible.
[8:13] Speaker 2: But for what I did to keep the time pleasant
[8:17] Speaker 2: while I was there, like, yeah, we would have an
[8:18] Speaker 2: hour and a half for lunch, right, And it was downtown,
[8:21] Speaker 2: so I tried to romanticize this time. I never explored downtown,
[8:25] Speaker 2: so I was like, all right, And it was hot.
[8:28] Speaker 2: It was during a very hot summer, so I wanted
[8:31] Speaker 2: to get my steps in and so I would go
[8:34] Speaker 2: down to my parked car in the Disney Concert Hall.
[8:37] Speaker 2: Of course, you know it well, chain shirts change shirts,
[8:41] Speaker 2: so I went sweat in the same.
[8:43] Speaker 3: Shirt, sure, sure, switch into a jersey.
[8:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, grab my lunch. I realized my first day that
[8:50] Speaker 2: I couldn't buy lunch. Lunch was I went to subway
[8:53] Speaker 2: and subway prices went up. I haven't been to subway
[8:55] Speaker 2: in a while, but it was like twenty dollars and
[8:57] Speaker 2: I was like twenty dollars for subway right? Oh no, yeah,
[9:01] Speaker 2: that's what I said. When she told me the price
[9:03] Speaker 2: was like, oh no, She's like you want it. I
[9:04] Speaker 2: was like, oh yes, so I and we only get
[9:09] Speaker 2: fifteen dollars a day. My mom was like, have fun
[9:11] Speaker 2: getting five dollars a day, and I was like, it's fifteen, mom,
[9:14] Speaker 2: it's gone up. So I realized I had to make
[9:18] Speaker 2: my own sandwiches or lunch right right, And so I
[9:21] Speaker 2: got a lunch pale and then I was like, I'm
[9:24] Speaker 2: gonna write a note to myself every day in my
[9:27] Speaker 2: lunch pale.
[9:28] Speaker 3: Oh, this is very sweet for yourself, for myself, a
[9:31] Speaker 3: little encouraging note. I thought my boyfriend would catch on
[9:34] Speaker 3: and start to write the notes, but that never happened.
[9:36] Speaker 3: You could have at least shown up every day and
[9:38] Speaker 3: waited for you outside the court.
[9:40] Speaker 2: Oh that would have been great. So you were what
[9:42] Speaker 2: were you writing to yourself? I was like, congratulations, you're
[9:46] Speaker 2: the best dress? Dur do you swear to eat the salad?
[9:52] Speaker 2: The whole salad and nothing but the salad, just like
[9:54] Speaker 2: dr sure? Sure?
[9:56] Speaker 3: And then the lunch was sitting in the car and
[9:58] Speaker 3: we would you go eat it in the park now?
[10:00] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So the lunch was in the car, grabbed
[10:03] Speaker 2: the lunch and then I would go to a different
[10:05] Speaker 2: spot I would. I wouldn't plan on where I was
[10:07] Speaker 2: going to eat. I would just explore. And there's so
[10:10] Speaker 2: many pretty downtown buildings that are completely empty. There's parks
[10:15] Speaker 2: that are filled with flowers and gardeners and fountains and
[10:18] Speaker 2: everything's just empty because like nobody goes to the office anymore.
[10:22] Speaker 2: It should be a hustling, bustling part of town. But
[10:24] Speaker 2: I still got to see some pretty locations like the
[10:29] Speaker 2: Bradbury Building.
[10:30] Speaker 3: Oh from I mean famously from Blade Runner. That's near
[10:36] Speaker 3: Grand Central Market, right.
[10:37] Speaker 2: And I found Grand Central Market like on the sixth week,
[10:40] Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, I should have been coming here.
[10:43] Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to suggest that that was that
[10:45] Speaker 3: was my spot for the three days it was. I
[10:48] Speaker 3: don't know what else I would have done. Yeah, I
[10:50] Speaker 3: don't have a lunch pale. I could I guess I
[10:53] Speaker 3: could have just got plastics for like three dollars. Three
[10:56] Speaker 3: dollars for a lunch pan. You're bringing to this podcast, boy,
[11:00] Speaker 3: twenty dollars at lunch pail, I would have guessed, is
[11:02] Speaker 3: twenty dollars. Subway should be three?
[11:04] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[11:05] Speaker 3: Wow, what does your lunch pail look like?
[11:08] Speaker 2: It's like a little iglue because I would put like
[11:10] Speaker 2: frozen packets in there also to keep salads fresh or
[11:14] Speaker 2: the sandwiches fresh. So it's just like a little square
[11:17] Speaker 2: of lunch pail. Nothing jazzy or cool from school or
[11:20] Speaker 2: anything in school?
[11:22] Speaker 3: Would you take a lunch or would you have the
[11:24] Speaker 3: cafeteria lunch.
[11:25] Speaker 2: I would always my mom would always make me a
[11:27] Speaker 2: sandwich or lunch, a brown bag lunch, and then she
[11:30] Speaker 2: would write a.
[11:31] Speaker 3: Note in it or how that's where it came from.
[11:33] Speaker 3: What was happening in your lunch bag? Was it just
[11:36] Speaker 3: a sandwich?
[11:37] Speaker 2: She would give me fluffin nutter, which is fluff and
[11:40] Speaker 2: peanut butter.
[11:41] Speaker 3: I've wanted to have one of those for the last
[11:43] Speaker 3: twenty years, and you can't have them on the West coast.
[11:47] Speaker 2: There's no fluff.
[11:48] Speaker 3: There's no fluff here. Oh, it's only on the East coast.
[11:51] Speaker 2: Oh.
[11:51] Speaker 3: Interesting, So I think the closest thing here is like
[11:55] Speaker 3: marshmallow cream or something, which I don't think would work.
[11:59] Speaker 3: So how I I'll know be able to get one.
[12:00] Speaker 2: Maybe I'll go to fluff dot com. Hopefully it's for the.
[12:06] Speaker 3: That's certainly, but yeah, I've never had one. So she
[12:10] Speaker 3: would put a fluffer nutter in, which is peanut butter
[12:13] Speaker 3: and marshmallow fluff fluff.
[12:15] Speaker 2: Or peanut butter and jelly or turkey and cheese, and
[12:19] Speaker 2: then messy apple slices with peanut butter, and then like
[12:22] Speaker 2: Oreos and I or yodels, you know yodles?
[12:27] Speaker 3: What is a yodel?
[12:28] Speaker 2: Are they're called ding dongs? Oh?
[12:30] Speaker 3: I know a ding dong, but not not round. It's
[12:32] Speaker 3: like a tube, a tube or like a French or
[12:36] Speaker 3: a Swiss roll. Is that what?
[12:38] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[12:39] Speaker 3: But you called them a yodel.
[12:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why that's in my vocabulary. Makes sense?
[12:44] Speaker 3: That sounds like kind of an equivalent to a ding dong.
[12:47] Speaker 3: For some reason?
[12:48] Speaker 2: Was it the hostess brand?
[12:50] Speaker 3: Yes? It was why they could have at least lined
[12:53] Speaker 3: up the branding of their own item, right, Okay, so
[12:57] Speaker 3: that sounds like a nice little lunch for whatever reason?
[13:00] Speaker 2: Why?
[13:00] Speaker 3: I mean, my mom would pack us lunch as well.
[13:02] Speaker 3: And I feel like she would put a layer of
[13:04] Speaker 3: butter on every sandwich, even if it was peanut butter,
[13:09] Speaker 3: which made eating the sandwich is nearly impossible. So I
[13:12] Speaker 3: was just was it not good or would it the
[13:14] Speaker 3: bread beet soggy or it was not good? I mean,
[13:18] Speaker 3: why is there butter on? There's no sandwich like peanut butter.
[13:23] Speaker 3: Peanut butter. I feel like on a turkey sandwich there
[13:26] Speaker 3: would be butter. And my apologies to my mom, but
[13:30] Speaker 3: I can't think of a single sandwich where you would
[13:32] Speaker 3: have a layer of butter.
[13:35] Speaker 2: Butter, I mean butter and jam, doing.
[13:40] Speaker 3: A jam sandwich. Yeah, she must have been wanting to
[13:44] Speaker 3: like put some meat on our bones or something. Maybe
[13:47] Speaker 3: it was like a secret, but the I mean, the
[13:49] Speaker 3: actual effect was the sandwich was being thrown away.
[13:53] Speaker 2: Oh, you throw it away, and.
[13:54] Speaker 3: I would just eat the cookies in the bag and
[13:56] Speaker 3: maybe the chips. So yeah, that was probably six years
[14:00] Speaker 3: of my life when I was not eating a full,
[14:03] Speaker 3: full lunch. So was the I know, you can't talk
[14:06] Speaker 3: about the case, but you can, Oh you can.
[14:09] Speaker 2: It's over. Yeah, they said, like you can talk about
[14:11] Speaker 2: it wherever you want.
[14:11] Speaker 3: I didn't know this. I've been I've been very good
[14:14] Speaker 3: about not talking about my case.
[14:16] Speaker 2: I honestly did not talk about it. My boyfriend plays
[14:20] Speaker 2: by the rules. Tools He's like, I don't want to,
[14:22] Speaker 2: You're not allowed to talk about it, don't tell me.
[14:24] Speaker 2: I was like, I know, and I was very good
[14:26] Speaker 2: about it.
[14:27] Speaker 3: Was it an exciting case?
[14:28] Speaker 2: It wasn't. It was a civil case, but there was
[14:32] Speaker 2: some crime happening but that didn't have anything to do
[14:35] Speaker 2: with it. But basically when we started the case, I
[14:38] Speaker 2: was like, oh, this guy's a con artist. He's opening
[14:40] Speaker 2: a restaurant with two brothers that just moved to the
[14:44] Speaker 2: United States. He was like their landlord, and they're like, hey,
[14:47] Speaker 2: we wanted to get into the bar business. And he's like, oh,
[14:50] Speaker 2: I manage a few bars and restaurants all around LA
[14:53] Speaker 2: and he's like okay, great. So they pretty much they're
[14:56] Speaker 2: like do you want to put money in? And he's
[14:58] Speaker 2: like no, no, no money. And there was no contract signed.
[15:00] Speaker 2: It was all oral agreements, which is, you know, a
[15:03] Speaker 2: big mistake on everybody's start. So he had access to
[15:07] Speaker 2: the bank accounts and he was like managing, and he,
[15:09] Speaker 2: like the two brothers, like the one restaurant was doing well,
[15:12] Speaker 2: they're like, all right, let's open another one. And so
[15:14] Speaker 2: they opened another one with him managing, getting a percentage
[15:17] Speaker 2: of like the profits. Once they made their money back,
[15:20] Speaker 2: and after like six years or something, they were like
[15:25] Speaker 2: they got a tip that he's like been kicked out
[15:28] Speaker 2: of bars or like embezzled money from people before, stole money,
[15:32] Speaker 2: and so once they looked into that, they cut off
[15:36] Speaker 2: all communication with him and fired him. And also saw
[15:39] Speaker 2: that he was taking like i'll give you a number,
[15:42] Speaker 2: like six thousand dollars out of the bank account each month,
[15:45] Speaker 2: like paying himself. And he said that everybody agreed to that,
[15:50] Speaker 2: that everybody knew about that, but the brother said, no,
[15:53] Speaker 2: we didn't. And the whole thing is like the brothers
[15:56] Speaker 2: had access to the bank accounts. They should have been
[15:58] Speaker 2: checking and seeing that money kept missing, but they were
[16:01] Speaker 2: just who cares, right, they weren't paying attention, and so
[16:05] Speaker 2: it's like.
[16:06] Speaker 3: Seeing business moves these brothers are making.
[16:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, they were very hands off.
[16:11] Speaker 3: So he was taking six thousand dollars a month. They
[16:14] Speaker 3: were just like who knows where they were as far
[16:16] Speaker 3: as managing the business right.
[16:18] Speaker 2: And then he was also like buying alcohol out of
[16:22] Speaker 2: people's vans for restaurants, and that came up and I
[16:27] Speaker 2: was like, gosh, he was very guilty about like being
[16:31] Speaker 2: a criminal and embezzling money, but they couldn't prove it.
[16:35] Speaker 2: There was no oh you know, so.
[16:38] Speaker 3: We ended up getting earning that sixth grand We don't know. Yeah,
[16:41] Speaker 3: we've been putting in the time.
[16:43] Speaker 2: Basically we awarded we actually awarded the con artist guy
[16:47] Speaker 2: like some money that he was never paid and then
[16:50] Speaker 2: basically nobody won. So it was a big waste of
[16:52] Speaker 2: everybody's time.
[16:53] Speaker 3: Oh, how fascinating. And wait, where did the con artists
[16:56] Speaker 3: come from? He just appeared in these men's life.
[16:58] Speaker 2: He was their landlord. They to the house. Oh wow,
[17:02] Speaker 2: good for him.
[17:03] Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he's finding vans all over town just
[17:05] Speaker 3: full of liquor and buying it. That's an interesting case
[17:08] Speaker 3: to get into.
[17:09] Speaker 2: It didn't need to be six weeks. They kept having
[17:11] Speaker 2: more and more witnesses come in.
[17:13] Speaker 3: It's like a real that feels like a grizzly murder case,
[17:17] Speaker 3: not over, like a mismanagement of a small business. Wow.
[17:23] Speaker 3: At some point where you like exhausted, where you're like,
[17:25] Speaker 3: I'm after the.
[17:26] Speaker 2: Third week, the romance of it kind of all left,
[17:29] Speaker 2: and I was like this should end, this is not Yeah,
[17:32] Speaker 2: I had nowhere else to like tour around.
[17:34] Speaker 3: I was kind of like, you've seen all of downtown.
[17:36] Speaker 2: At this point, my lunch bit with the notes got tiresome.
[17:40] Speaker 2: Did you write a note every single day of the thing?
[17:43] Speaker 3: Incredible? Good for you, Good for you. Well, you know,
[17:50] Speaker 3: we need to talk about something else.
[17:52] Speaker 2: What.
[17:53] Speaker 3: I was really excited to have you here today.
[17:55] Speaker 2: I was excited to come.
[17:56] Speaker 3: I thought, John will come over, we'll have a good time.
[17:59] Speaker 3: I want wanted to talk about jury duty, hear about it,
[18:03] Speaker 3: and then move on with my life. I've got a
[18:05] Speaker 3: lot going on, so I was a little surprised when
[18:10] Speaker 3: you come kind of trotting up into my backyard holding what,
[18:16] Speaker 3: from where I'm sitting, looks like a gift. The podcast
[18:20] Speaker 3: is called. I said, no gifts.
[18:22] Speaker 2: Oh I thought it was. I said gifts.
[18:24] Speaker 3: Oh, common mistake.
[18:27] Speaker 2: I said gifts. I know, I'll bring one. Okay, well
[18:33] Speaker 2: that feels fine then, so sorry, No, it's fine. It's
[18:36] Speaker 2: obviously just a huge mistake on your part. And now,
[18:41] Speaker 2: I mean, we have this gift here.
[18:43] Speaker 3: It's beautifully wrapped in kind of a hologram paper. Should
[18:46] Speaker 3: I open it here on the podcast?
[18:48] Speaker 2: I would love that.
[19:11] Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into it here. This is you know, uh,
[19:16] Speaker 3: sometimes you get a nicely wrapped gift on this podcast.
[19:18] Speaker 3: Sometimes you get a grocery bag. Sometimes it just comes
[19:22] Speaker 3: out of somebody's purse. So it's nice to see a
[19:26] Speaker 3: decently wrapped gift. I'm gonna ooh, and even the ribbon
[19:31] Speaker 3: didn't cause me any trouble.
[19:32] Speaker 2: Save the ribbon.
[19:35] Speaker 3: I love the ribbon. Okay, here we go on. Alisa's
[19:39] Speaker 3: coming got some nice you know, I like this rap
[19:44] Speaker 3: has like a nice.
[19:45] Speaker 2: It's thick, it's strong. You can reuse it, save the paper,
[19:48] Speaker 2: use it as a clothing jacket. Let's see well opening,
[19:58] Speaker 2: Oh my god, you've really got to see you probably. Yeah,
[20:00] Speaker 2: is there an animal in here that's opening it from here?
[20:03] Speaker 2: This is here.
[20:04] Speaker 3: Yeah, we're opening. There's tape all over the box. Continue
[20:10] Speaker 3: to open. I really appreciate the work you put in here.
[20:13] Speaker 3: This is uh, we've got some tissue. Now, this is
[20:16] Speaker 3: an audio rainbow. Rainbow for the listener.
[20:19] Speaker 2: Save the tissue. Yes, we're coming out, coming out, and
[20:25] Speaker 2: now it's a gift bag inside the gift back. Okay,
[20:32] Speaker 2: now we've got some tissue, tissue. Okay, I'm pulling out
[20:39] Speaker 2: what is now another gift gift box with a ribbon
[20:42] Speaker 2: and a bow.
[20:43] Speaker 3: So we're opening this.
[20:44] Speaker 2: Save the ribbon. I'm opening. I'm opening. Now we've got
[20:49] Speaker 2: some tissue. Well, slowly pull this out.
[20:54] Speaker 3: We're pulling it out, and then we've got a little
[20:56] Speaker 3: almost like a magic bag.
[20:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, velvet bag.
[20:59] Speaker 3: Yeah, gorgeous elvet bag and kind of a midnight blue.
[21:03] Speaker 3: We're opening. We're pulling out. This doesn't feel like a
[21:09] Speaker 3: gift rap. Oh, this is very sweet. It's a Bridger's nook, apples,
[21:15] Speaker 3: cinnamon spice, white birch, country cryan candle.
[21:20] Speaker 2: Yes, why did you bring this? I made it, mad,
[21:25] Speaker 2: I made you your own little nook. This. This is
[21:28] Speaker 2: what I assume you have a nook in your house,
[21:30] Speaker 2: nooks everywhere. It's what I assume it smells like, or
[21:34] Speaker 2: it will smell like when you cozy up with a
[21:36] Speaker 2: nice cup of coffee and a good book.
[21:38] Speaker 3: Oh, it smells great. Is candle making new to your life?
[21:43] Speaker 3: How did you get into this?
[21:44] Speaker 2: Well? I kept buying jars that I thought were really
[21:48] Speaker 2: cute and I didn't want to throw away. So I
[21:52] Speaker 2: was like, what could I do with a bunch of jars?
[21:54] Speaker 2: And I got it from my mom too, she has
[21:55] Speaker 2: a cabinet filled with jars. I'm a crafter, and so
[22:00] Speaker 2: I was like, how do you make candles? And so
[22:04] Speaker 2: then I researched how to make candles and bought the wicks,
[22:08] Speaker 2: the glue to stick the wick to the bottom. And
[22:11] Speaker 2: then I started with beeswax, but that was too expensive,
[22:15] Speaker 2: and so I do soy wax and.
[22:17] Speaker 3: What is the process? Then? Walk me, you know, a
[22:21] Speaker 3: bird's eye view of candle making. I'm very curious.
[22:24] Speaker 2: Well, you get sausage jars from Trader Joe's, or garlic
[22:28] Speaker 2: minced garlic jars from Trader Joe's. Or you go to
[22:30] Speaker 2: Goodwill you look for little fun muss all sorts of glass, yeah,
[22:33] Speaker 2: a little get creative. And then you go to candlemaker
[22:37] Speaker 2: dot com to buy sense. Okay, they have like a
[22:40] Speaker 2: billion cents, And are they like essentially like essential oils. Yeah,
[22:44] Speaker 2: they're like two little two ounce bottles cheap, like three
[22:48] Speaker 2: ninety nine a bottles. Shipping's expensive. I'm giving you more prices.
[22:52] Speaker 3: I want a price on everything. I'm adding these up
[22:55] Speaker 3: in my head.
[22:57] Speaker 2: So I get like I was like, oh, it's uh,
[23:00] Speaker 2: Autumn's comings. I'll get like Apple is trending, right, there's
[23:04] Speaker 2: a new apple drink at Starbucks. Like I didn't know
[23:06] Speaker 2: they had an apple drink. It's yeah, they tried to
[23:08] Speaker 2: make it bigger than the pumpkin spice, but pumpkin spot,
[23:10] Speaker 2: I mean, it's just all took over.
[23:11] Speaker 3: There's nothing you can do at this point.
[23:14] Speaker 2: So I got apple spice, like some pumpkin spye, some
[23:16] Speaker 2: vanilla tobaccos, a nice scent if you mix it well
[23:19] Speaker 2: with something cranberry. And so you get all these bottles delivered,
[23:24] Speaker 2: You get the soy wax, and then you need to
[23:26] Speaker 2: get a metal pitcher, okay, to put in a pot
[23:29] Speaker 2: that's filled with water, boiling water, and you put the
[23:31] Speaker 2: wax in the picture like the little beads, right, and
[23:35] Speaker 2: then it melts down. And once it's all melted down,
[23:38] Speaker 2: you put I prefer to put a lot of the
[23:41] Speaker 2: scented oil in so that it's right.
[23:43] Speaker 3: You want to get a smell, yeah, otherwise it's just
[23:45] Speaker 3: going to be kind of a crayon.
[23:47] Speaker 2: Yeah. And so I mix and match. Sometimes I fail,
[23:51] Speaker 2: sometimes I win. I feel like this is a mixture
[23:54] Speaker 2: of nice smells lovely. And then you pour it in.
[23:57] Speaker 2: You you know, make the wick talk by putting like
[24:01] Speaker 2: I use chopsticks, okay, across the top of it, and
[24:04] Speaker 2: like tape the wick to it so it stands straight.
[24:06] Speaker 3: Up, otherwise it'll sink in.
[24:09] Speaker 2: Be weird. And then I pour in the wax and
[24:12] Speaker 2: then you but it sit for twelve hours or you
[24:14] Speaker 2: go to sleep, You wake up the next morning, cut
[24:16] Speaker 2: the chopstick off, and you get to go, wow.
[24:20] Speaker 3: Was it a difficult process to learn? It feels like
[24:23] Speaker 3: a pretty straightforward It's straightforward yeah.
[24:26] Speaker 2: I think the fun part is like, oh, you can
[24:28] Speaker 2: also get like dies for the wax. Right, has this
[24:30] Speaker 2: one died? It's kind of like I put in like
[24:31] Speaker 2: normal ambler and.
[24:33] Speaker 3: You Millheiser's Candles says on the label, this is beautiful.
[24:40] Speaker 3: How many candles have you made at this point?
[24:42] Speaker 2: I guess I've been doing it almost off and on
[24:44] Speaker 2: for a full year, so maybe like fifty.
[24:49] Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's a decent amount, varying sizes. I mention,
[24:54] Speaker 3: what's the biggest one you've made?
[24:55] Speaker 2: I made up there was a bowl that looked like
[24:58] Speaker 2: a pumpkin, and so I put three wicks in there
[25:01] Speaker 2: and made it okay, right?
[25:01] Speaker 3: And did you do a pumpkin smell? Okay?
[25:04] Speaker 2: Lovely?
[25:06] Speaker 3: You know, like, there are obviously candles that you can
[25:08] Speaker 3: spend like hundreds of dollars on. There's such a range.
[25:12] Speaker 3: I don't feel like I can tell any different. I
[25:14] Speaker 3: feel like I could get one off of the clearance
[25:15] Speaker 3: racket target and I would have as good of a
[25:17] Speaker 3: time as with one that costs one hundred and seventy dollars. Yes,
[25:21] Speaker 3: is that.
[25:22] Speaker 2: How you feel? Yes, that's how I feel.
[25:23] Speaker 3: I don't know how you get to I feel like,
[25:25] Speaker 3: I'm just like, my taste level is so low that
[25:28] Speaker 3: I'm satisfied by thank God, always the cheapest thing.
[25:34] Speaker 2: That's a good thing. Yeah.
[25:35] Speaker 3: I avoid spoiling myself otherwise and then it because I
[25:38] Speaker 3: feel like once you do, you can't go back. Yeah,
[25:41] Speaker 3: but I love every type of candle good. Do you
[25:44] Speaker 3: have a favorite type of smell?
[25:46] Speaker 2: I really like muskie, like tobacco, vanilla, yes, but it's
[25:52] Speaker 2: not the season for that right now. I feel like
[25:53] Speaker 2: this season it's like cinnamon spice and like all that
[25:56] Speaker 2: types of smell. So I think cinnamon spices and vanilla.
[26:00] Speaker 2: But other than this season, I like tobacco.
[26:02] Speaker 3: Smelly tobacco to me feels like fall. The only season
[26:06] Speaker 3: I can't really put my finger on for a candle
[26:08] Speaker 3: is summer.
[26:08] Speaker 2: Summer. What could that?
[26:10] Speaker 3: Maybe citrus or something lemon? Lemon? Right? And are you
[26:13] Speaker 3: giving these away as gifts? Are you making them all
[26:15] Speaker 3: for yourself?
[26:16] Speaker 2: I'm gathering. I start the gift making process for the
[26:21] Speaker 2: holidays kind of early, getting ideas and I start crafting.
[26:25] Speaker 2: I have a lot of nieces and nephews, and I
[26:28] Speaker 2: feel like anything you give them, they're kind of like
[26:31] Speaker 2: thanks and they forget who gave it to them type
[26:34] Speaker 2: of thing. Grateful, right, totally ungrateful. And so I feel
[26:38] Speaker 2: like if I show putting some love into a gift,
[26:41] Speaker 2: being like I made this for you, they'll kind of
[26:43] Speaker 2: look at it differently or just feel a different appreciation
[26:46] Speaker 2: for it other than just like getting a video game
[26:48] Speaker 2: or something right.
[26:49] Speaker 3: Or if they forget about it, it'll just be even
[26:51] Speaker 3: more heartbreaking. So that like the emotions are even higher,
[26:54] Speaker 3: the stakes are through the roof.
[26:55] Speaker 2: Where those tight I sweatshirts I made you you all
[26:57] Speaker 2: last year. Oh that's very nice.
[27:02] Speaker 3: Are your nieces and nephews of the age where they
[27:05] Speaker 3: want a candle?
[27:06] Speaker 2: Well, I found a Yoda baby Yoda glassware, okay, and
[27:11] Speaker 2: so I love the liddle doing a baby Yoda of
[27:13] Speaker 2: everything at this point. Yeah, So I made my nephew
[27:17] Speaker 2: he's seventeen, Okay, So I made it for him. And
[27:20] Speaker 2: was it green? Yeah? I made it like green and
[27:23] Speaker 2: like pine and moss smell oil scent. So it was
[27:26] Speaker 2: kind of like funky little bit.
[27:28] Speaker 3: Moss is a good because I feel like Yoda when
[27:30] Speaker 3: I imagine Yoda is in a swamp or something. Wow,
[27:33] Speaker 3: you're really getting into the theming of this. Yeah, I
[27:35] Speaker 3: really appreciate that, but they're not really the age. They're
[27:38] Speaker 3: in college. Out of college. That feels like a good candle.
[27:41] Speaker 3: That's the beginning of candle using. Okay, I feel like
[27:45] Speaker 3: if they were high school and younger, they're at home,
[27:49] Speaker 3: their parents have candles. They want more of a what
[27:52] Speaker 3: does a teen want? They want they want a lava lamp.
[27:56] Speaker 2: Let's be honest, they all want to Spencer's Yes, Spencer's
[28:01] Speaker 2: I wrote on his label. My nephew's label is like,
[28:03] Speaker 2: this would be good to cover up your farts, keep
[28:07] Speaker 2: your room smelling nice. Where's your family at New Jersey?
[28:11] Speaker 2: Mostly New Jersey? Yeah?
[28:12] Speaker 3: Can a candle be taken on as a carry on item?
[28:15] Speaker 2: I just brought a candle to someone. I went on
[28:19] Speaker 2: a trip and my bag was flagged and they had
[28:22] Speaker 2: to go through it and wipe down the candle to
[28:23] Speaker 2: make sure it wasn't like a bomb or anything like. Yeah,
[28:26] Speaker 2: because there's a wick. Yeah, there's a wick.
[28:27] Speaker 3: It's like a little fuse that could, I mean, be
[28:29] Speaker 3: a really obvious bomb.
[28:33] Speaker 2: So I guess you have to put in your check bags.
[28:35] Speaker 3: Okay, you never know what they're gonna flag you for.
[28:39] Speaker 3: What else are you crafting.
[28:41] Speaker 2: I made an ugly little jewelry box for my niece
[28:44] Speaker 2: for her birthday where I shellacked seashells I got at
[28:48] Speaker 2: the shore the summer, right, and then I painted it
[28:52] Speaker 2: and shellacked it some more. It was hideous.
[28:54] Speaker 3: But what else I thought that was charming. What was
[28:57] Speaker 3: her reaction to it?
[28:58] Speaker 2: I don't know. She never thanked. Okay, usually I am
[29:02] Speaker 2: expecting thank you cards. But I make ice cream. That's
[29:07] Speaker 2: like my crafting.
[29:09] Speaker 3: But like, how do you have like an ice cream machine?
[29:12] Speaker 3: I feel like ice cream making is it seems very temperamental.
[29:16] Speaker 3: It feels like you could end up with a bad
[29:18] Speaker 3: product easily.
[29:20] Speaker 2: We got the Jennies Cookbook for ice cream, so that
[29:23] Speaker 2: taught me how to like use eggs and make curd
[29:28] Speaker 2: like Custer. Yes, I've made corn ice cream which is
[29:34] Speaker 2: really fun and tasty.
[29:37] Speaker 3: It didn't have pieces of corn in it, no.
[29:39] Speaker 2: But I milked the cob. Oh yeah, I milked that
[29:43] Speaker 2: cop You scrape, you take off all the corn kernels, right,
[29:47] Speaker 2: and then you slide a knife down the side of
[29:51] Speaker 2: it and all this juice comes out and hit that
[29:53] Speaker 2: into a bowl and then you put all the corn
[29:56] Speaker 2: in that juice into heavy cream. And cook get a
[30:00] Speaker 2: little like steeping it in it and then you drain all
[30:03] Speaker 2: the milk out and leave the corn behind.
[30:05] Speaker 3: What did I'm trying to imagine what that's tasty? Is
[30:08] Speaker 3: it like?
[30:09] Speaker 2: And then you dye it yellow?
[30:10] Speaker 3: Does it taste like a corn pops or like a
[30:13] Speaker 3: corn cereal?
[30:14] Speaker 2: Like corn? You know, the corn cookie from milk Bar? Yes,
[30:18] Speaker 2: it's like that.
[30:19] Speaker 3: Okay, Now I can get behind that because I'm not
[30:21] Speaker 3: a corn eater, but I feel like there's so many
[30:23] Speaker 3: corn products.
[30:24] Speaker 2: I love corn.
[30:26] Speaker 3: I feel like I'm the one person on earth who
[30:27] Speaker 3: doesn't enjoy corn cream.
[30:29] Speaker 2: Corn.
[30:29] Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, what a horrible way to serve any food.
[30:33] Speaker 2: It just spreads all over the plate.
[30:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, but a corn ice cream I might be able
[30:40] Speaker 3: to get behind what other flavors if you made.
[30:43] Speaker 2: I've made mint, chocolate chip coffee, I made a peanut
[30:48] Speaker 2: butter and Reese's peanut butter cup and chocolate ice cream. Recently,
[30:54] Speaker 2: it's fun to like if somebody, like I just made
[30:56] Speaker 2: an ice cream flavor for somebody just got to the
[30:58] Speaker 2: hospital for something, and so it's like, oh, make her
[31:01] Speaker 2: an ice cream, and it's fun just to like, you know,
[31:04] Speaker 2: you can draw a label on.
[31:05] Speaker 3: The carton, right, I mean it's adjacent to candle making
[31:08] Speaker 3: in a lot of ways.
[31:09] Speaker 2: It's kind of it's it's a cheap, nice, easy right yeah.
[31:14] Speaker 3: Right time fun to make and yeah with the Let
[31:16] Speaker 3: me ask you about the mint chocolate chip, because there's
[31:18] Speaker 3: I feel like within the last ten years, a lot
[31:21] Speaker 3: of ice cream places have begun making mint ice cream
[31:24] Speaker 3: that tastes like the herb mint? Is that what yours
[31:29] Speaker 3: was like?
[31:29] Speaker 2: Or was?
[31:30] Speaker 3: Because I am not, we have to stop doing that.
[31:34] Speaker 3: It tastes like plants. Did you use just like a
[31:37] Speaker 3: mint extract?
[31:38] Speaker 2: I used a mint extract, but I also used mint leaves.
[31:43] Speaker 2: It did the recipe didn't call for mint leaves I wanted,
[31:46] Speaker 2: but I wanted to like steep the milk and mint
[31:49] Speaker 2: leaves because I had mint leaves. So I apologize. I
[31:53] Speaker 2: just wanted to be, you know, more professional with this
[31:56] Speaker 2: mint chocolate chip.
[31:58] Speaker 3: I just feel like I think I went over. Yeah,
[32:00] Speaker 3: I feel like that's just a bad trend that's got
[32:02] Speaker 3: to go away. I feel like no one actually it
[32:05] Speaker 3: feels as good in theory, but it's the sort of
[32:07] Speaker 3: thing where you kind of want it to be an
[32:09] Speaker 3: artificial candy flavor and I've just got to you know,
[32:12] Speaker 3: we've got to get the word out of that ass.
[32:14] Speaker 2: And I also like it the ment chocolate chip to
[32:16] Speaker 2: be green.
[32:17] Speaker 3: I don't Oh yeah, I don't want it to be
[32:19] Speaker 3: like white, kind of off white. Yeah, it's not fun.
[32:22] Speaker 2: It's not fun.
[32:22] Speaker 3: And I mean, how am I supposed to possibly know
[32:25] Speaker 3: that that's mint if it's not like a neon green?
[32:28] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[32:29] Speaker 3: I feel like I have a lot of complaints about
[32:31] Speaker 3: current ice cream trends. I mean, like right now, like obviously, oh,
[32:36] Speaker 3: there's a squirrel running through the yard. Squirrel, Oh, good
[32:40] Speaker 3: for it, it's just out doing its thing. Are you
[32:45] Speaker 3: into the sort of thing like salt and straw putting
[32:47] Speaker 3: turkey in their ice cream?
[32:49] Speaker 2: I haven't dabbled that much in salt and straw.
[32:51] Speaker 3: Okay, I have their cookbook, but I have all these
[32:54] Speaker 3: places are giving away their recipes. Okay, so you make
[32:58] Speaker 3: ice cream, you're making candles. You obviously love to give
[33:01] Speaker 3: things away. Do you like receiving things?
[33:05] Speaker 2: I would love to receive things made by people like right.
[33:09] Speaker 2: I always push my mom to give me, like, just
[33:10] Speaker 2: draw me something because I don't know. I buy myself
[33:13] Speaker 2: what I need. I don't need that I don't feel
[33:14] Speaker 2: like I don't need that much. We don't.
[33:16] Speaker 3: I don't know, right.
[33:17] Speaker 2: Is your mom an artist? Yeah, she's an artist in
[33:20] Speaker 2: the sense that she can draw. It's not like she's
[33:24] Speaker 2: sure sure. So she enjoys trips to Michael's and Joe
[33:27] Speaker 2: Anne's and like getting like paints and acrylics and painting stuff.
[33:31] Speaker 3: As far as craft stores do. Between Michaels and Joe
[33:34] Speaker 3: Anne Where are you going?
[33:36] Speaker 2: I do find myself going to Michael's, but always finding
[33:39] Speaker 2: like I should just go to Joe Ann's because they
[33:41] Speaker 2: have both all the fabric I need, right and all
[33:44] Speaker 2: the crafting materials. Yeah, so I should be going to
[33:48] Speaker 2: Joeanne's more.
[33:49] Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like when I'm at joe Anne's, I
[33:51] Speaker 3: leave with what I need. When I go to Michael's,
[33:54] Speaker 3: I'm frequently disoriented. The one I go to is in
[33:59] Speaker 3: the same parking lot is nine other giant retailers. So
[34:03] Speaker 3: it's just madness in Glendale. In glendaleyeh, World Market and
[34:07] Speaker 3: World Market. We've got a Nords from Iraq, Marshall, Staples,
[34:11] Speaker 3: Ross Staples. It's too many bits.
[34:14] Speaker 2: There's a store underneath, like underneath the parking lot. Yeah,
[34:16] Speaker 2: what is that under there it was a halloween store, Yes,
[34:20] Speaker 2: it was.
[34:21] Speaker 3: What is it the rest of there, It's just a
[34:22] Speaker 3: big empty cave down there.
[34:24] Speaker 2: That's kind of beeri.
[34:26] Speaker 3: Yeah, I should. I need to explore that off season
[34:30] Speaker 3: because that's a large space to just be kind of
[34:33] Speaker 3: dark for nine months out of the year. I'm glad
[34:37] Speaker 3: we're going to the same Michaels. And then I assume
[34:42] Speaker 3: you're the Glendale Joanne. Yes, not a particularly well run store.
[34:47] Speaker 3: I would say, no, no, no, it's a little chaotic
[34:49] Speaker 3: in there. I do like the Michael's self checkout. Michaels
[34:53] Speaker 3: had a self check out.
[34:54] Speaker 2: Nobody does, so they're waiting in line. There's a huge line,
[34:57] Speaker 2: and then I just bypass everybody being like watch me,
[35:00] Speaker 2: and I go to the self checkout.
[35:01] Speaker 3: They go, oh yeah, Michael's usually has about half a
[35:04] Speaker 3: person checking people out, and then so you're there for
[35:09] Speaker 3: three times as long as you were shopping and they don't.
[35:12] Speaker 3: And it's also not like a grocery store where you
[35:14] Speaker 3: can look at tabloids or whatever while you're waiting. It's
[35:17] Speaker 3: like they have like.
[35:17] Speaker 2: Dollar craft things as you wait in line, I guess
[35:20] Speaker 2: I need this, or like.
[35:23] Speaker 3: Charleston choose or like a candy that no one wants
[35:27] Speaker 3: and stuff hes.
[35:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, just this.
[35:29] Speaker 3: They need to rethink that part of the store if
[35:31] Speaker 3: they're gonna trap me for there for that long because
[35:34] Speaker 3: it's a waiting room, not for me. Well, I think
[35:38] Speaker 3: we should play a game. Okay, hon Aly skift door curs. Okay, wonderful.
[35:43] Speaker 3: I need a number between one and ten from you.
[35:46] Speaker 2: Seven. Okay.
[35:47] Speaker 3: I have to do some light calculating. So right now
[35:51] Speaker 3: you can recommend, promote, do whatever you want with the microphone.
[35:55] Speaker 3: I'll be right back.
[35:57] Speaker 2: Hey, everyone follow me on Instagram. I have a pretty
[36:01] Speaker 2: fun Instagram. Ooh, bagett me nuts? Those are That's a
[36:05] Speaker 2: fun Instagram account. I take actors and comedians and put
[36:10] Speaker 2: them in a picture with a baguette. They used the
[36:13] Speaker 2: bagette as something that's not usually a baguette, like a
[36:17] Speaker 2: bagett could be a lamp, a bagette could be a
[36:20] Speaker 2: field hockey stick, fun things like that. It's called beget
[36:23] Speaker 2: me nuts, wonderful, beget me nots. Yeah you're doing that.
[36:29] Speaker 2: How long have you been doing that? Since? When I
[36:32] Speaker 2: first moved to La twenty twelve, my friend and I
[36:36] Speaker 2: bought a bagette from Gelson's and went on a hike
[36:38] Speaker 2: and then I posed with the baguette as a bat
[36:41] Speaker 2: like behind on my shoulders coos and he's like, oh,
[36:44] Speaker 2: that's funny. And we were shooting his sketch the next
[36:46] Speaker 2: day with like some comedians and we had them use
[36:50] Speaker 2: the baggette as something else, and then we just kept
[36:54] Speaker 2: asking more and more friends to take pictures with baggettes
[36:56] Speaker 2: using it as something yeapest.
[37:01] Speaker 3: I'm wondering if does Italy have a bread that was
[37:04] Speaker 3: like an answer to the bag atte. I feel like
[37:06] Speaker 3: I just recently heard that there's like a Italy has
[37:09] Speaker 3: It's like facaccia or something. They were like, we need
[37:12] Speaker 3: a competitor to the baguette, or am I making this
[37:16] Speaker 3: up on a lease?
[37:17] Speaker 2: I mean I found a word filone.
[37:20] Speaker 3: And that's a competitor to the bag atte.
[37:21] Speaker 2: Says another tusk and bread on the list similar to
[37:24] Speaker 2: the famous French baguette and shape.
[37:26] Speaker 3: Interesting. Yeah, I thought it was an interesting thing to
[37:30] Speaker 3: need to compete with loaves of bread. You think that
[37:33] Speaker 3: it feels like bread has just been there always, But
[37:37] Speaker 3: to like for a country to catch wind of like
[37:41] Speaker 3: a different bread that they have to keep up with.
[37:43] Speaker 3: That's a baffling. Who cares. We're gonna play gift to
[37:48] Speaker 3: a curse. This is how we play. I'm going to
[37:51] Speaker 3: name three things. You're gonna tell me if they're a
[37:53] Speaker 3: gift or a curse and why, and then I'll tell
[37:57] Speaker 3: you if you're right or wrong. Okay, there are correct
[38:00] Speaker 3: answers you can lose.
[38:02] Speaker 2: Okay.
[38:02] Speaker 3: Number one this is from a listener named Jake. Gift
[38:05] Speaker 3: or a curse.
[38:06] Speaker 2: Low light photos a gift. Why it's nice to everyone?
[38:14] Speaker 2: You know, there's no like harsh light or it smooths
[38:18] Speaker 2: everybody's faces imperfections out a little bit. It's romantic looking,
[38:24] Speaker 2: it's candid, it's not so set up. It's natural. It's
[38:31] Speaker 2: old school a little bit.
[38:33] Speaker 3: Yes, of course it's a gift. A bad lighting photo,
[38:36] Speaker 3: now that's a problem, bad lighting or too much lighting.
[38:40] Speaker 3: But low light, I feel like it's perfectly fine.
[38:43] Speaker 2: And the technology has adapted to it and it can
[38:46] Speaker 2: take a fine picture.
[38:48] Speaker 3: You can pick well that when the technology like is
[38:52] Speaker 3: trying to brighten up a dark situation, I feel like
[38:54] Speaker 3: that with people it starts to look a little wild
[38:57] Speaker 3: because it overcorrects or whatever. And you do the little
[39:00] Speaker 3: like cross thing on your phone that I'm so bad
[39:02] Speaker 3: at or tries to keep it in place. Are you
[39:05] Speaker 3: familiar with this that I'm not into? But I don't
[39:08] Speaker 3: mind a low light photo. I like a blurry, you know,
[39:13] Speaker 3: messy photo as long as it's not backlit. It's a gift. Okay, good,
[39:19] Speaker 3: very good job so far. Number two this is from
[39:22] Speaker 3: someone named Todd. Todd suggested gift or a curse. The
[39:25] Speaker 3: New York Times Mini Crossword.
[39:28] Speaker 2: Are you familiar with this? I am, but I have
[39:31] Speaker 2: never filled it out? Filled it out. It's a gift
[39:38] Speaker 2: to those who are too intimidated by the big Crossford puzzle.
[39:43] Speaker 2: Do you fill out the big one? No? Is filling
[39:47] Speaker 2: out the correct usage? Yeah?
[39:50] Speaker 3: I feel like it is, but it feels so formal
[39:52] Speaker 3: it makes.
[39:52] Speaker 2: Me be so I have to keep filling this out.
[39:57] Speaker 3: It seems like something you do with the DMV or
[39:59] Speaker 3: something thing. Very good gift. I love the little Mini Crossword.
[40:05] Speaker 3: I mean it's four people who are, such as myself,
[40:08] Speaker 3: were fairly stupid.
[40:10] Speaker 2: It's very easy.
[40:11] Speaker 3: You get it done in seconds, and you can tell
[40:13] Speaker 3: people you did the New York Times Crossword. Yeah, you
[40:16] Speaker 3: don't have to have mentioned that it was only it
[40:18] Speaker 3: took you forty seconds. It's very simple. It's probably mostly
[40:23] Speaker 3: it's like a child level difficulty. But it's a nice
[40:26] Speaker 3: little thing I do in the morning that makes me
[40:28] Speaker 3: feel at least like my cognitive functions are not completely collapsing.
[40:34] Speaker 2: So it's a gift. I don't think I've.
[40:37] Speaker 3: Ever filled out the big one.
[40:40] Speaker 2: Maybe'll I have, but none of the answers are right,
[40:44] Speaker 2: completely wrong answers. That would be a feat to be
[40:47] Speaker 2: able to fill in it, fill it in completely. I
[40:50] Speaker 2: didn't even look at the clues. I just put in words.
[40:54] Speaker 3: That feels like to be able to do a reverse
[40:57] Speaker 3: crossword where you have to guess the clues. You just
[41:00] Speaker 3: have a full crossword and then you write down that
[41:04] Speaker 3: feels like a failing business idea. Okay, you've got two
[41:07] Speaker 3: out of two so far. Number three. This is from Kara.
[41:12] Speaker 3: Kara Klank actually Kara, We love Kara. She suggested gift
[41:17] Speaker 3: or a curse writing social media posts in your child's voice.
[41:22] Speaker 2: EG.
[41:23] Speaker 3: I'm turning one today. I love Cake.
[41:27] Speaker 2: I think that's a gift. I my children. I have
[41:31] Speaker 2: a dog and a half and I share cussody with
[41:34] Speaker 2: the dog. Oh sure sure, And I am always giving
[41:38] Speaker 2: them voices and yeah, and they talk a lot in
[41:42] Speaker 2: those voices. So yeah, I think parents with real kids
[41:47] Speaker 2: would do the same thing.
[41:49] Speaker 3: What sort of thing are you writing for the dogs?
[41:51] Speaker 2: To say? You had to tell the truth? How is truth?
[41:58] Speaker 2: That's my dog, Charlie. Yes, Charlie, it's a gift.
[42:08] Speaker 3: It's a gift we love to hear from. And you've
[42:11] Speaker 3: now won the game. It's a rare I feel like
[42:14] Speaker 3: there are very few people who have won the game. Look,
[42:16] Speaker 3: I love when the parents are taking their turning the
[42:19] Speaker 3: social media into a creative writing exercise. They're speaking for
[42:23] Speaker 3: someone else. We're all kind of watching it unfold and
[42:27] Speaker 3: we're uncomfortable with it. We don't know exactly what to do.
[42:30] Speaker 3: But you can't blame them.
[42:33] Speaker 2: They don't know.
[42:33] Speaker 3: So, you know, a lot of people just they're out
[42:36] Speaker 3: there doing their thing on social media. And if they
[42:39] Speaker 3: decide to write in the child's voice, who am I
[42:43] Speaker 3: to say? I don't have a child, what would I write? Well,
[42:47] Speaker 3: I would I definitely wouldn't write in my child's voice.
[42:51] Speaker 3: But we love to see it anyway. I mean, we
[42:54] Speaker 3: have to wonder what Kara, where Carol lies, I mean,
[42:56] Speaker 3: where her opinion lies on this. My guess is something different.
[43:01] Speaker 3: No one care. I would assume she's got a different
[43:04] Speaker 3: opinion on that. But you got three out of three,
[43:07] Speaker 3: very nicely played. You get nothing, but you do get
[43:13] Speaker 3: to feel nice about yourself. Okay, this is the final
[43:17] Speaker 3: segment of the podcast. It's called I Said No emails.
[43:21] Speaker 3: People write into I Said no gifts at gmail dot
[43:25] Speaker 3: com with all kinds of questions. We're really encouraging the
[43:29] Speaker 3: listener and listener I hope you're listening. You don't have
[43:31] Speaker 3: to write in about gift suggestions right in, whatever you want,
[43:35] Speaker 3: any type of question. You know, I'm getting tired of
[43:38] Speaker 3: giving gift advice, but do whatever you want right in.
[43:42] Speaker 3: They've got problems, we help them solve their problems. That
[43:46] Speaker 3: sort of thing will help me answer a listener question. Okay,
[43:50] Speaker 3: let me get into the dock here. Let's see um. Okay,
[43:56] Speaker 3: this says dear Bridger and funny. Guess that's very nice.
[43:59] Speaker 2: You're getting all kinds.
[44:00] Speaker 3: Of compliments towards Hello. This is every Christmas and Birthday.
[44:06] Speaker 3: I rack my brain for a gift for my brother
[44:09] Speaker 3: and could really use your help. And by the way,
[44:11] Speaker 3: I now feel bad that I say I don't want
[44:13] Speaker 3: to give gift suggestions and this person is now asking
[44:16] Speaker 3: for that sort of advice. Not my problem, okay, so
[44:22] Speaker 3: could really use your help. He has everything. My brother
[44:25] Speaker 3: is the type of person who buys himself whatever he
[44:27] Speaker 3: wants and more. He also has very fancy taste, so
[44:31] Speaker 3: some things that he likes, for instance, tech items are
[44:34] Speaker 3: home decor are out of my budget. I've gotten him
[44:37] Speaker 3: countless bottles of liquor and every Chicago sports memorabilia I
[44:41] Speaker 3: can think of over the years. He lives in South
[44:44] Speaker 3: Carolina with his wife and labradoodle, loves to travel, and
[44:47] Speaker 3: plays golf. I'm getting an interesting picture of this brother.
[44:52] Speaker 3: What do you get the person who has everything? Sincerely, Sam?
[44:56] Speaker 3: All Right, So her brother's kind of hard right Republican
[45:01] Speaker 3: living in South Carolina with his labradoodle and wife and
[45:06] Speaker 3: they're on the golf course. He's got everything.
[45:09] Speaker 2: Everyone has everything.
[45:11] Speaker 3: It's true adult. I mean as an adult, you basically
[45:15] Speaker 3: have the You get the things you.
[45:16] Speaker 2: Want, something you order it, it comes next day. It's yeah,
[45:20] Speaker 2: there's no growing up. You would get somebody like a
[45:23] Speaker 2: VHS of a movie or something, or like a CD.
[45:26] Speaker 2: There's lots of gift options now there's just like cards,
[45:31] Speaker 2: gift cards which are boring. So like I mean crafting,
[45:35] Speaker 2: Like I have a brother who's you know, married with kids,
[45:41] Speaker 2: army lawyer. I always craft something on Zazzle dot com.
[45:49] Speaker 2: Is this like, I guess that's not me crafting, but
[45:51] Speaker 2: Zazzle dot com. Like you can put a picture on
[45:52] Speaker 2: like a mug or a or like it. My brother
[45:57] Speaker 2: growing up, he he took care of my dog when
[46:01] Speaker 2: my mom and I went to Disney World. I came back,
[46:03] Speaker 2: the dog ran away. It was his fault. He got
[46:06] Speaker 2: a dog, Golden Retriever. He couldn't take care of it.
[46:10] Speaker 2: He gave it to my parents. They ended up raising it.
[46:12] Speaker 2: He got a basset hound. He couldn't take care of it.
[46:15] Speaker 2: He gave it to my parents, they raised it.
[46:17] Speaker 3: He this this person was filling shelters.
[46:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, he got another dog. He returned it to the shelter.
[46:22] Speaker 2: I think got another dog, returned to the shelter. So
[46:24] Speaker 2: one Christmas I made him. I got I made coasters
[46:28] Speaker 2: with all those dogs that he failed to take care
[46:30] Speaker 2: of on each coaster, with a no smoking cigarette circle
[46:34] Speaker 2: over each dog. He's like these are They laughed. It
[46:38] Speaker 2: was very funny because yeah, and so now his girls
[46:41] Speaker 2: when they get a new dog. They're like, I don't
[46:43] Speaker 2: want this one to be a coaster.
[46:47] Speaker 3: What is driving him to continue getting dogs?
[46:50] Speaker 2: It's clearly he has a huge dog. He's great, My
[46:54] Speaker 2: brother's great. He has a mastiff now, which I'm like,
[46:58] Speaker 2: oh my goodness. But he loves dogs. Our family loves dogs.
[47:01] Speaker 2: So like he heaps trying.
[47:02] Speaker 3: This's this addiction that he can't quite handle. That's a
[47:06] Speaker 3: nice So you go to Zazzle, you do that, that's
[47:08] Speaker 3: a nice thing. Or there I'm putting on my jacket
[47:11] Speaker 3: right now. I don't want to freak you out. I'm
[47:13] Speaker 3: getting a little chew.
[47:14] Speaker 2: We also growing up to photo booth pictures on the
[47:17] Speaker 2: Jersey Boardwalk like every summer. So I gathered all those
[47:21] Speaker 2: together and organize them in order so you see us age.
[47:25] Speaker 2: And then I had that printed on aluminum on Zazzle
[47:29] Speaker 2: dot com and that was a cool gift.
[47:33] Speaker 3: It feels like you're like, creating gifts for you is
[47:36] Speaker 3: truly taking up months of your life.
[47:39] Speaker 2: Yes, it's an ongoing process. I start like, I'm like, yeah,
[47:43] Speaker 2: think ahead.
[47:44] Speaker 3: I mean, I will say right now, I'm trying to
[47:45] Speaker 3: create a T shirt for my boyfriend, and it's taking
[47:48] Speaker 3: a lot of time, and I'm using one of these services,
[47:51] Speaker 3: and I hope that I do because now I'm saying
[47:52] Speaker 3: it on the podcast. What if I don't give it
[47:54] Speaker 3: to him and then he's going to be furious. But
[47:56] Speaker 3: maybe it'll be nice. It'll be a little something of
[47:59] Speaker 3: what could have been. Yeah, it does a if you're
[48:01] Speaker 3: not a graphic designer, or if you're just kind of
[48:04] Speaker 3: stumbling through photoshop, it takes a minute and you want
[48:08] Speaker 3: it to look nice. You don't want to give him garbage.
[48:11] Speaker 3: So but I mean, Sam here could easily do this.
[48:16] Speaker 2: I think you can find a picture of them when
[48:18] Speaker 2: they were younger or something. Put it on a.
[48:19] Speaker 3: Mug, or how about a clip art of like a
[48:22] Speaker 3: golf ball.
[48:23] Speaker 2: I put your picture on a golf ball.
[48:26] Speaker 3: You know, you get on these sites they have all
[48:28] Speaker 3: of the clip art. Just put some of the different
[48:30] Speaker 3: clip art on a shirt. Maybe the words labradoodle or
[48:35] Speaker 3: the word labradoodle and he loves to travel. You could
[48:40] Speaker 3: put a globe on there. So it's kind of a
[48:44] Speaker 3: you know, a little bit of everything for the brother.
[48:46] Speaker 3: And you put that on the front and back of
[48:48] Speaker 3: a sweatshirt. And that's a thoughtful, confusing gift. That he's
[48:55] Speaker 3: certainly not going to get himself. No one else will
[48:58] Speaker 3: get it for him. And I mean the countless bottles
[49:01] Speaker 3: of liquor she's talking about he or she or they.
[49:06] Speaker 3: It feels like you could easily just keep getting this
[49:08] Speaker 3: person liquor.
[49:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, but that goes away, you know what.
[49:12] Speaker 3: I think the actual problem here is that Sam doesn't
[49:14] Speaker 3: even care about her brother.
[49:16] Speaker 2: I think she's trying to care about her brother. She
[49:19] Speaker 2: wants to get something that's gonna last, and he's gonna
[49:21] Speaker 2: look at and think of her.
[49:23] Speaker 3: I feel like there's a huge disconnect. There's I mean,
[49:27] Speaker 3: there's so few details about the brother. They're all kind
[49:31] Speaker 3: of things like that anyone could point out. I feel
[49:35] Speaker 3: like Sam has just got to disconnect.
[49:37] Speaker 2: Cut off the relationship, cut off the relationship, one less worry,
[49:41] Speaker 2: one less worry.
[49:42] Speaker 3: Who knows where Sam lives? Obviously not in South Carolina.
[49:46] Speaker 3: I don't know where. The Chicago element of this, I
[49:49] Speaker 3: mean that throws me off in another enormous way. So
[49:53] Speaker 3: Sam could be in another country for all we know,
[49:56] Speaker 3: stressing about the brother. The brother doesn't care about the gifts.
[50:00] Speaker 3: I think that this is kind of the This is
[50:02] Speaker 3: the year that Sam just says, closes the door and says,
[50:07] Speaker 3: I'm not getting gifts anymore.
[50:09] Speaker 2: It's over. It's over.
[50:11] Speaker 3: That is actually, and I will say with siblings, when
[50:15] Speaker 3: you both agree not to get each other a gift,
[50:17] Speaker 3: incredible feeling. My sister and I have started doing that.
[50:21] Speaker 3: I mean, we're both so happy with it to just
[50:25] Speaker 3: be It's like one less thing you have to think
[50:26] Speaker 3: about during the holidays.
[50:27] Speaker 2: Do you get something small like a tote bag? We
[50:31] Speaker 2: get each other nothing. I'm getting her daughter's thinks.
[50:35] Speaker 3: So I feel like that's kind of the where my
[50:37] Speaker 3: gift giving energy is? I mean, where is her gift
[50:40] Speaker 3: giving energy gone for me? That's another question. She's not
[50:44] Speaker 3: buying my dog anything, So I mean, I am putting
[50:47] Speaker 3: in a lot more work, but at least I don't
[50:50] Speaker 3: have to think about one other thing. And so I
[50:52] Speaker 3: guess all of my siblings are not giving each other anything.
[50:55] Speaker 3: And I don't know what that says about our family
[50:57] Speaker 3: or the dynamics we've got going, but uh, you know,
[51:02] Speaker 3: if you can, if it's a good thing, if you're
[51:04] Speaker 3: like both happy not to be giving a gift, it's
[51:06] Speaker 3: a nice feeling. So maybe Sam could figure that out
[51:09] Speaker 3: with a brother. Sam has options, Candles ice cream. The
[51:15] Speaker 3: T shirt that I described endless options. I think I know,
[51:21] Speaker 3: go ahead.
[51:23] Speaker 2: Another thing I made that it would be a fun
[51:26] Speaker 2: gift is switch out the Guess Who characters with family members.
[51:32] Speaker 3: Wow, that's an incredible idea.
[51:35] Speaker 2: So that'd be fun for Sam to play with their
[51:37] Speaker 2: brother or like if you get they don't see each
[51:39] Speaker 2: other a lot, like you can get like family members
[51:41] Speaker 2: and switch out.
[51:42] Speaker 3: That feels like something. I mean, Milton Bradley or whatever
[51:46] Speaker 3: company makes Guess Who should have a weed site.
[51:48] Speaker 2: They should. Oh that's such just myart idea.
[51:50] Speaker 3: Where you upload all of your friends or family and
[51:52] Speaker 3: then they send you a custom version of it.
[51:54] Speaker 2: Oh my god.
[51:55] Speaker 3: I mean it would probably cost a fortune, but I
[51:58] Speaker 3: feel like everyone would want that and you could fill
[52:00] Speaker 3: it with whoever you want, Yeah, copyrighted photos, whatever you want, Yeah, exactly,
[52:07] Speaker 3: put all sorts of celebrities.
[52:10] Speaker 2: Wow.
[52:10] Speaker 3: I feel like that's an excellent option. Or you can
[52:13] Speaker 3: just print them off on your computer and tape them
[52:14] Speaker 3: over the regular game.
[52:17] Speaker 2: How does Guess Who work your? Do you have a
[52:19] Speaker 2: little person have a hat on? Now? And then you
[52:23] Speaker 2: flip down all the people?
[52:24] Speaker 3: Oh right, you flip there's the flipping, so you would
[52:27] Speaker 3: have to tape them on or whatever. Yeah, Milton Bradley,
[52:31] Speaker 3: is that the Is there another competing game company? I
[52:33] Speaker 3: don't know that there is, did you say, Milton Bradley.
[52:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the.
[52:38] Speaker 3: Feel like there's one Parker Brothers. Parker Brothers. Those are
[52:42] Speaker 3: the two, and then there are kind of none others
[52:45] Speaker 3: except for the you know once.
[52:46] Speaker 2: In a while. No, that's Barbie.
[52:48] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Barbie. I don't know that they're as much
[52:51] Speaker 3: into the board games. I don't know who's making the
[52:53] Speaker 3: Ouiji board that you can buy at the grocery store,
[52:55] Speaker 3: but that's always an interesting one. That's such a funny
[52:58] Speaker 3: thing to see on the aisles among like next to
[53:01] Speaker 3: snakes and ladders or shoots and ladders or whatever. Then
[53:03] Speaker 3: there's just a thing to contact the devil. But Sam
[53:09] Speaker 3: has gotten so I mean, more than enough advice. Hopefully
[53:13] Speaker 3: they can take that information away and just do whatever.
[53:17] Speaker 3: I don't know. It's there's only so much I can do,
[53:21] Speaker 3: and you put in so much work. It's hopefully Sam
[53:25] Speaker 3: can appreciate that.
[53:27] Speaker 2: Well.
[53:28] Speaker 3: I have my nice little candle here. I have rooms
[53:31] Speaker 3: in my home that need candles.
[53:34] Speaker 2: This says specifically nook. Oh yeah, that's right, So it
[53:37] Speaker 2: only works in the nook.
[53:40] Speaker 3: I'll put it in my breakfast nook good and just
[53:44] Speaker 3: have light that every morning while I'm reading and eating breakfast,
[53:47] Speaker 3: and I'll think of you, and it'll confuse my senses
[53:50] Speaker 3: while I'm tasting something else and drinking coffee. It. I'll
[53:53] Speaker 3: also get the what is it again? Apples, cinnem and spice,
[53:58] Speaker 3: white birch, country cranberry.
[54:02] Speaker 2: So that was me pouring in all these bottles of sense,
[54:05] Speaker 2: hopefully just kind of your leftovers. You're just like, I've
[54:07] Speaker 2: got to get rid of some of this. I really
[54:11] Speaker 2: appreciate a nice little candle. I feel like, and you
[54:14] Speaker 2: did say gift cards are boring, but I feel like
[54:16] Speaker 2: candles and gift cards are much maligned gifts that I
[54:20] Speaker 2: think are I welcome. I will take either good okay,
[54:24] Speaker 2: I mean, uh, custom candles a little more thoughtful. I'll
[54:28] Speaker 2: take carlic jar.
[54:29] Speaker 3: I'll take when you found it home goods like you know,
[54:32] Speaker 3: lying on the floor. I don't care candles a candle
[54:36] Speaker 3: and everyone can use a candle.
[54:39] Speaker 2: Can I give also advice if anybody wants to save jars,
[54:42] Speaker 2: you boil some water and white vinegar with a little
[54:46] Speaker 2: dish soap, right, drop the jars in, leaving them in there,
[54:50] Speaker 2: turn the water off, leave them in there for twenty minutes.
[54:52] Speaker 2: The labels just fall off. Oh, all the glue comes
[54:54] Speaker 2: off to.
[54:55] Speaker 3: That feels like a criminal thought of that for another thing,
[54:58] Speaker 3: and then that's kind of transferred to the craft world.
[55:01] Speaker 3: It's like like how you like get stamps off of
[55:04] Speaker 3: an envelope or something to commit mail fraud or something
[55:08] Speaker 3: like that. I feel like that is that has various origins,
[55:13] Speaker 3: but uh, that's a good idea. I feel like there's
[55:16] Speaker 3: so many things with that adhesive all over them. Yeah,
[55:19] Speaker 3: white vinegar.
[55:20] Speaker 2: White vinegars, dissoap and boiling water, and your house will
[55:24] Speaker 2: smell nice and clean. Yeah yeah, you're no, that's the
[55:28] Speaker 2: bad heart.
[55:29] Speaker 3: I don't mind that smell. I feel like it smells
[55:31] Speaker 3: like mopping the floor.
[55:33] Speaker 2: I must be getting bad vinegar.
[55:34] Speaker 3: That's not a bad idea for a candle. White vinegar
[55:38] Speaker 3: candle the fuck.
[55:43] Speaker 2: Uh.
[55:43] Speaker 3: Well, I've had such a wonderful time with you here today.
[55:45] Speaker 3: I'm glad that you were able to make it through
[55:47] Speaker 3: the criminal justice system. You were able to actually aid
[55:52] Speaker 3: a criminal, put some money in from their's pocket. Yeah,
[55:56] Speaker 3: he's probably taking advantage of more brothers right now. Hopefully
[56:01] Speaker 3: I'll be able to do the same one day. But
[56:03] Speaker 3: thank you for being here, Thank you for having me listener.
[56:07] Speaker 3: The podcast is over. You know it's time to do
[56:11] Speaker 3: something else. I don't know what it'll be. I hope
[56:15] Speaker 3: it's nice. I hope you have a nice time. And oh,
[56:17] Speaker 3: I guess it is the holidays, so I hope you're
[56:19] Speaker 3: having a happy, ish, niceish holiday season. The podcast is over.
[56:25] Speaker 3: I love you, goodbye. I said, No Gifts is an
[56:33] Speaker 3: exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nilson,
[56:38] Speaker 3: and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't
[56:41] Speaker 3: do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song,
[56:45] Speaker 3: of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Man.
[56:49] Speaker 3: You must follow the show on Instagram at I said
[56:52] Speaker 3: No Gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's
[56:55] Speaker 3: where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous
[56:57] Speaker 3: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures
[56:59] Speaker 3: of the gifts.
[57:01] Speaker 1: But I invited you here thought I made myself perfectly clear.
[57:09] Speaker 2: But you're a.
[57:10] Speaker 1: Guess to my home. You gotta come to me empty,
[57:16] Speaker 1: And I said no, guess you're presences presents enough. I
[57:24] Speaker 1: already had too much stuff, So how do you dare
[57:29] Speaker 1: to surbey me?

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