# Beyond Us vs Them: Transforming Society Through Fierce Vulnerability with Kazu Haga #186

An episode of [How to Train a Happy Mind](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1496841325), 25 Mar 2025, 56 min.

Audio: https://www.buzzsprout.com/721908/episodes/16845454-beyond-us-vs-them-transforming-society-through-fierce-vulnerability-with-kazu-haga-186.mp3

This week, Scott is joined by transformative activist and restorative justice advocate Kazu Haga to discuss his new book, Fierce Vulnerability, which rethinks nonviolence as a path to healing and connection. In a world fueled by division, Kazu challenges the idea of winning against an enemy and asks: What if resistance wasn’t about force, but about vulnerability? If you’ve ever questioned whether conflict itself is keeping us stuck, this conversation is for you. Episode 186: Beyond Us vs Them: Transforming Society Through Fierce Vulnerability with Kazu Haga If you’d like to practice with others and bring these ideas into your life, join our weekly meditation community with Scott. 🙏 Help us stay ad-free 📲 Follow us on socials

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