# 'The art of humility'

An episode of [West of Centre](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1496639620), 5 Jun 2026, 31 min.

Audio: https://mgln.ai/e/12/cbc.mc.tritondigital.com/CBC_WESTOFCENTRE_P/media/westofcentre/westofcentre-FS7gwTJt-20260605.mp3?ttag=season:7,episode:290

West of Centre's citizen panel is back, this time to weigh in on October's referendum, where Albertans will be asked to decide the future of their province within Confederation. Returning to join host Kathleen Petty are Darryl Stanier, who runs a logistics supply chain business; Sunil Shah, an electrical engineer; and Chelsea Matisz, a research scientist. The panel agrees Alberta has legitimate grievances within Confederation. But they disagree on whether the 10 questions Albertans will vote on are necessary. They have differing takes on whether the Alberta-Ottawa memorandum of understanding will lead to a new bitumen pipeline to B.C. One panellist says Premier Danielle Smith is losing the art of humility and the United Conservative Party is governing for its base rather than the majority of Albertans. • Host: Kathleen Petty • Guests: Chelsea Matisz, Darryl Stanier, Sunil Shah • Producer: Diane Yanko

Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. Every show and episode belongs to its publisher and plays from the publisher's own feed; this site hosts none of them.