# Can you be selfless without being selfish?

An episode of [What’s UP with Jessup](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1494979503), 3 Nov 2020, 10 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/11cf1e60/podcast/play/21960560/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2020-11-01%2F9132d352d0c05f21d6f81b6cf1d1e6b0.m4a

Jessup discusses the interesting relationship between being selfless and being selfish. To the extent that it helps your survival, Jessup argues that taking care of yourself is important.

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