# Ep.279 Crib / Washington State UFOs (Throwback)

An episode of [UFO Chronicles Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1488874171), 22 Oct 2026, 48 min.

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Throwbacks are where I re-release old episodes from the archives. So don't worry if you have heard it already, as 'New episodes' will continue to come out on Sundays. To get some of the old episodes heard. ~~~ Starting off tonight with Oscar in Texas, and one night, not too long ago, Oscar received a call from his wife telling him that a strange figure had been seen on the baby monitor, standing over his sleeping child. Then we make our way to Washington state to hear from Ray about his multiple sightings of UFOs over the last 20 years, from odd lights that move, to fully structured crafts. More information on this episode, including guest links and additional material, can be found on the UFO Chronicles Podcast website. MORE ON THIS EPISODE Visit the episode page for additional information, links and material: https://ufochroniclespodcast.com/ep-279-crib-washington-state-ufos/ SHARE YOUR ENCOUNTER Have you witnessed a UFO, experienced something paranormal, or had an encounter you cannot explain? Apply to be a guest: If you would like to share your full experience as a guest on UFO Chronicles Podcast, complete the guest submission form here: https://ufochroniclespodcast.com/share-an-encounter/ Record Your Encounter: Have a shorter sighting, encounter or paranormal experience to share? Record your story directly through the website or upload an existing audio recording, up to 20 minutes: https://ufochroniclespodcast.com/record-your-encounter/ SUPPORT UFO CHRONICLES PODCAST If you enjoy the podcast and would like to help support the show: Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/ufochroniclespodcast Patreon: https://patreon.com/UFOChroniclespodcast Podcast Merchandise: https://www.teepublic.com/user/ufo-chronicles-podcast Follow and subscribe on X: https://x.com/UFOchronpodcast/ All podcast links: https://linktr.ee/UFOChroniclesPodcast Thank you for listening and supporting UFO Chronicles Podcast. If you enjoy the show, please follow, rate and share the podcast. Sharing episodes on social media helps the show reach new listeners and, importantly, more witnesses with experiences to tell. Keep Watching The Skies. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/ufo-chronicles-podcast--3395068/support.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: You'll be away five seventeen.
[0:01] Speaker 2: Do you want to report a UFO hanging in?
[0:05] Speaker 1: We don't want.
[0:06] Speaker 3: To report every thirty one.
[0:08] Speaker 4: Do you wish to report a.
[0:09] Speaker 2: UFO over hey, we want to one of.
[0:12] Speaker 3: Those areas thirty one.
[0:15] Speaker 4: Do you wish to find a report of any kind
[0:17] Speaker 4: of it?
[0:18] Speaker 2: I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.
[0:20] Speaker 1: Time areas thirty one?
[0:23] Speaker 5: Me neither there.
[0:25] Speaker 2: See if it was anybody a U above us to
[0:30] Speaker 2: pass us, like thirty seconds ago, we.
[0:32] Speaker 4: Were sending one top of golf negative, okay, OFFI the UFO.
[0:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock. Yes, I'll just passed
[0:40] Speaker 2: over God.
[0:43] Speaker 1: I don't know what.
[0:43] Speaker 2: It was, but it's from at least to three thousand
[0:46] Speaker 2: feet above us. See, I passed out over the top
[0:48] Speaker 2: of US.
[0:51] Speaker 6: Ninety one one.
[0:53] Speaker 5: You just called both to me before rest.
[0:56] Speaker 2: They're after staying the airplanes here to God more Calm
[1:04] Speaker 2: on an Unidentified object every Liberty four call or Calm
[1:08] Speaker 2: on an Unidentified Flying object.
[1:13] Speaker 4: A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
[1:19] Speaker 4: their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
[1:24] Speaker 4: an encounter, I would like to be on the show.
[1:27] Speaker 4: You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.
[1:48] Speaker 4: Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. I hope your
[1:51] Speaker 4: week has been good to you. I'm Nick Hunter and
[1:53] Speaker 4: you're listening to the UFO Chronicles podcast. Darts Enough Tonight
[1:57] Speaker 4: with Oscar in Texas and one night not too long ago,
[2:01] Speaker 4: Oscar received a call from his wife telling him that
[2:04] Speaker 4: a strange figure had been picked up on the baby monitor,
[2:07] Speaker 4: standing over his sleeping child. Then we make our way
[2:11] Speaker 4: to Washington State to hear from Ray about his multiple
[2:14] Speaker 4: UFO science over the last twenty years, from odd lights
[2:18] Speaker 4: that move to fully structured crafts. Oscar is up next,
[2:23] Speaker 4: but first, if you enjoyed a show and you would
[2:25] Speaker 4: like to help support the podcast on Patreon, you can
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[2:30] Speaker 4: Head on over to patreon dot com forward slash UFO
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[2:37] Speaker 4: description of this episode. Any help is very much appreciated.
[2:41] Speaker 4: Now on with the show. Hello Oscar, that welcome to
[3:01] Speaker 4: the podcast. Oh Nick, thank you for joining us today,
[3:04] Speaker 4: and you're calling from Texas.
[3:06] Speaker 1: Yes, from our pastor Texas our pass so great.
[3:10] Speaker 4: Okay, Now, Oscar, you had a strange experience a few
[3:13] Speaker 4: nights ago. Would you like to start at the beginning.
[3:15] Speaker 1: Please, sir, Yes, of course, So yeah, this simple is
[3:19] Speaker 1: just a few nights ago. I'm going to start with
[3:21] Speaker 1: a little bit about myself. I have always believed in
[3:24] Speaker 1: the paranormal, you know, like supernatural occurrences you'll pose, and
[3:29] Speaker 1: in even even cryptics. I firmly believe that all these
[3:32] Speaker 1: empties exist. But I have longed to encounter something present,
[3:37] Speaker 1: you know, besides the occasional shadow blinks from the corner
[3:40] Speaker 1: of my eye, I have yet to experience anything significant enough,
[3:44] Speaker 1: you know, to share story on the on the podcast.
[3:47] Speaker 1: But a few nights ago, something interesting happens. To provide
[3:50] Speaker 1: some context, my dad is busy constructing a fireplace in
[3:55] Speaker 1: my living room at my at my house, and my
[3:58] Speaker 1: cousin's husband was adding she was starting more public to
[4:02] Speaker 1: our ceiling.
[4:03] Speaker 2: Right.
[4:04] Speaker 1: So, on that particular Saturday, my entire family was present
[4:08] Speaker 1: at my house, including you know, my aunt, uncle costing,
[4:12] Speaker 1: her husband, my parents, my wife, and my kids. I
[4:16] Speaker 1: have an aeol and a three month old baby. Meanwhile,
[4:20] Speaker 1: I was at work this time, I wasn't at home.
[4:24] Speaker 1: I worked the night shift, so I typically take my
[4:27] Speaker 1: lunch break around ninet p am and then again at
[4:31] Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning. So during my second break,
[4:35] Speaker 1: I managed to get my phone and noticed a message
[4:40] Speaker 1: for my wife and she told me call me when
[4:43] Speaker 1: you're out to lunch. And I was like, okay, Well,
[4:46] Speaker 1: it's kind of sounded weird because she I mean, she's
[4:49] Speaker 1: never awake at that time, but then again, it was
[4:51] Speaker 1: a weekend. So I called her and she answered sounding
[4:56] Speaker 1: a bit nervous. She mentioned she will pass the phone
[4:59] Speaker 1: to my mom. She was the one who witness it,
[5:02] Speaker 1: and I was kind of surprise, like I was like,
[5:04] Speaker 1: what do you mean, what did you see? What are
[5:06] Speaker 1: you talking about? So then my mom explaining that everyone
[5:11] Speaker 1: was basting in the living room doing their things, my
[5:14] Speaker 1: dad by the fireplace, my coffee something with the lights
[5:18] Speaker 1: and everything. My baby, the baby was asleep in my
[5:22] Speaker 1: room with the door shut and lights off. This happened
[5:27] Speaker 1: around twelve fifty am. So they had the baby monitor
[5:31] Speaker 1: in the kitchen to keep a knie on the baby
[5:34] Speaker 1: if you woke up. The baby was in a bas
[5:37] Speaker 1: lit beside my bed, you know, so he wasn't at
[5:40] Speaker 1: the bed, he was sleeping in a little basinet. So
[5:43] Speaker 1: my mom decided to shake the baby through the monitor
[5:46] Speaker 1: while standing in the kitchen, which is something about like
[5:50] Speaker 1: what like eight steps away from my bedroom doors. So
[5:53] Speaker 1: she noticed that the camera in the room was not
[5:56] Speaker 1: positioned correctly to capture the baby, so she entered the
[5:59] Speaker 1: room but to let's fix it. After fixing it and
[6:03] Speaker 1: returned into the kitchen, she then again checked the monitor
[6:06] Speaker 1: again and this was like a few seconds later, she
[6:09] Speaker 1: went to the manditor again and to her surprise, she
[6:15] Speaker 1: she described seeing a small figure resembling a little boy,
[6:20] Speaker 1: not taller than three feet because again the basil made
[6:22] Speaker 1: it not too high. The figure, she said the figure
[6:26] Speaker 1: had two little hands ripping the basil's edge and a
[6:29] Speaker 1: small head picking up to look at the baby. So
[6:32] Speaker 1: initially she was the only one of serving the monitor
[6:35] Speaker 1: like while the others were busy with the tea. She
[6:38] Speaker 1: mentioned that the little head will hit under the basin,
[6:41] Speaker 1: leaving sense visible and then pick out to see the
[6:44] Speaker 1: baby again. This happened three times before she's she's not
[6:48] Speaker 1: paddled with leg of the shops, so she called my
[6:52] Speaker 1: cousin's housands multiple times, allering him to grab the baby
[6:56] Speaker 1: because something was with him on the on the room,
[7:00] Speaker 1: so he didn't win and grab she grabbed my mom
[7:03] Speaker 1: because she was almost fainting, like pale white, so he
[7:06] Speaker 1: guided her to sit down and up on touching her,
[7:09] Speaker 1: he said he experienced like any thing can say, she
[7:13] Speaker 1: like goosebooes like never before. Everyone including my dad turned
[7:16] Speaker 1: her attention to the commotion, you know, because seeing my
[7:20] Speaker 1: my mom's reaction, my cousin's cousin granted the camerado but
[7:24] Speaker 1: saw Nothing's don Lucio. But he still I was fryingly
[7:28] Speaker 1: to open the door, you know, so even even though
[7:30] Speaker 1: he was like standing in front of it. When you
[7:33] Speaker 1: see my mom's reaction, my my wife verse into tears
[7:38] Speaker 1: after seeing the detail account like of what she had witnessed.
[7:42] Speaker 4: You know.
[7:43] Speaker 1: So after they opened the door, there was nothing inside.
[7:45] Speaker 1: The baby was still asleep. That's when I started asking
[7:47] Speaker 1: my mom, like I'm here on the phone at work
[7:49] Speaker 1: at months. She's telling me all these details through the phone,
[7:53] Speaker 1: And that's when I started asking my mom questions about
[7:55] Speaker 1: like so what did you see, like did you see
[7:58] Speaker 1: a shadow of ghost? And you describe it to me
[8:00] Speaker 1: in detail. So she first needed to explain that she
[8:03] Speaker 1: has seen a small head picking my head behind the
[8:06] Speaker 1: doziness age with hands grasping it. That the scheme appeared
[8:10] Speaker 1: gray and it was hairless. It was beauty like skin
[8:15] Speaker 1: will appeared like grayish, almost almost white, you know. She
[8:18] Speaker 1: mentioned it. She mentioned it had two large black eyes
[8:21] Speaker 1: and she even noticed it blink. And when she first
[8:25] Speaker 1: described the fee here, it seemed like a She felt
[8:28] Speaker 1: it seemed like a shallow with a grayish complexion, no clothes,
[8:32] Speaker 1: hairless and what took my wife's back like she described
[8:38] Speaker 1: the middle feature as a burnt victim.
[8:41] Speaker 3: You know.
[8:41] Speaker 1: When I heard that, in my mind it raised to
[8:44] Speaker 1: dark places. No, like it's just a demon, Like what
[8:47] Speaker 1: do you mean that it was burned? Really strange. And
[8:50] Speaker 1: when I was hearing this from the phone, more than
[8:52] Speaker 1: scared I was, I was pissed. I was mad because
[8:56] Speaker 1: I was why is this creature in my baby? You know,
[8:59] Speaker 1: like when I'm out there in the house, like why
[9:02] Speaker 1: parting my baby? What do you want from the baby?
[9:05] Speaker 4: You know?
[9:06] Speaker 1: And and I wasn't able to shake it up, you
[9:08] Speaker 1: know the details of my mum described. I even told
[9:11] Speaker 1: this story to a to a co work for doing
[9:15] Speaker 1: and h contemplating if I wanted to bed early for
[9:19] Speaker 1: work and this this was a regular three in the morning.
[9:22] Speaker 1: I get out at five ear Yeah, my my wife.
[9:25] Speaker 1: My wife was really thriving. She didn't want to sleep
[9:28] Speaker 1: in the room, she didn't want to put the baby
[9:30] Speaker 1: back in the base of it. And as the night progressed,
[9:33] Speaker 1: I couldn't shake up like the DNN, you know, So
[9:37] Speaker 1: I told my coworker I was going to leave early,
[9:39] Speaker 1: and I even mentioned it. I even said, imagine if
[9:42] Speaker 1: something happened in my way home while I was driving. Well,
[9:44] Speaker 1: you know, did I know when when I got like
[9:47] Speaker 1: when I left work and I was driving in a highway,
[9:50] Speaker 1: it was like what point in the morning, I think,
[9:53] Speaker 1: and a coyote, a coyote like run travel my car
[9:58] Speaker 1: like I don't know when I was I mean like
[10:00] Speaker 1: seventy five miles per hour, and I was like I
[10:02] Speaker 1: nearedly like a body reeling it. You know, it took
[10:04] Speaker 1: it took me by surprise. I literally if it was
[10:08] Speaker 1: just a confidence, it really got me wondering, you know,
[10:10] Speaker 1: to obviously like need somehow. So when I arrived home
[10:14] Speaker 1: from work, you know, I woke up my mom, who
[10:17] Speaker 1: was with my wife and the baby in the bed.
[10:19] Speaker 1: They were a sleeping in the same bed. So I
[10:23] Speaker 1: woke her up and I started in a way interviewing
[10:27] Speaker 1: her again, like with more details. Did you notice any
[10:31] Speaker 1: in the three years? She mentioned she didn't see any
[10:34] Speaker 1: specific details on the on the hands except that they
[10:37] Speaker 1: were there, you know, holding the basines. And once again
[10:41] Speaker 1: she struggled to articulate the appearance of the entity. It
[10:44] Speaker 1: seemed like she couldn't quite find the right works and
[10:48] Speaker 1: mentioned it might not been like not burned, but more
[10:52] Speaker 1: like racos and you know, the camera quality working the best,
[10:56] Speaker 1: possibly a little bit graining, but she insisted that it
[10:59] Speaker 1: resembled to eat like the strecheratio, like with the wrinkles.
[11:04] Speaker 1: So I asked her if she noticed a mouth or nose,
[11:08] Speaker 1: to which she replied like she hadn't. Initially she couldn't.
[11:11] Speaker 1: She could only see the head eyes, and eventually cut
[11:13] Speaker 1: a green too, the green young neck when she when
[11:17] Speaker 1: the NTP like picked up the baby for the third time.
[11:20] Speaker 1: So I incied about the eyes, I feel if they
[11:22] Speaker 1: appear like alienated, you know, like they she responded that
[11:25] Speaker 1: they were around. I already had something in mind, you know,
[11:29] Speaker 1: I didn't think this was something the money, but I
[11:34] Speaker 1: thought this might might be a grade, you know, because
[11:37] Speaker 1: you're describing to me it's a great like plain simple,
[11:41] Speaker 1: a little small figure, kind of grayish, big black eyes,
[11:46] Speaker 1: no mouth and no nose, so I mean they do
[11:49] Speaker 1: have some they're really small, like really small mouth and
[11:52] Speaker 1: no so it would be it makes sense that she
[11:55] Speaker 1: didn't notice it on the camera, you know. So, yeah,
[11:58] Speaker 1: that's what happened. I suggested the wife that we won't
[12:01] Speaker 1: be putting the baby to sleep the vassinet. We will
[12:04] Speaker 1: put the baby in the middle work on our bed,
[12:08] Speaker 1: and while I'm at work, I mean to have our
[12:10] Speaker 1: dogs stay in the room with her to help her
[12:12] Speaker 1: feel more, you know, at least comfortable. My mom even
[12:15] Speaker 1: had nightmares recently. She's still, you know, shaken up by
[12:18] Speaker 1: the situation. She mentioned that the treacher itself didn't scare her,
[12:23] Speaker 1: it was more like shocked and concern because the baby
[12:26] Speaker 1: was in the room. Wo nothing like this has ever
[12:28] Speaker 1: happened to us, you know, It's unlike anything we've ever
[12:31] Speaker 1: in country before. As a family. Mom has witness for
[12:34] Speaker 1: a normal for princess like goals shadows in the past,
[12:38] Speaker 1: like one incident where she worked at my grandma's house
[12:41] Speaker 1: and my grandpa was outside working with his stoub doing
[12:43] Speaker 1: broath daylight you seeing the octide like the outside camera
[12:47] Speaker 1: app on her phone, my mom noticed a shadow crouching
[12:50] Speaker 1: behind my grandpa, but her reaction to that event was
[12:54] Speaker 1: not as intenous as the awaking one, like even when
[12:57] Speaker 1: she saw goals at my grandma's house. Nothing nothing with this,
[13:02] Speaker 1: So I don't know. I like to believe that this
[13:04] Speaker 1: was indeed a great so maybe it's nothing bad. I
[13:07] Speaker 1: told my wife that this would have been quite different,
[13:10] Speaker 1: you know, if my mom had seen class or two,
[13:13] Speaker 1: or red eyes or horns, you know. Yeah, we concluded
[13:17] Speaker 1: that it might be a gray perhaps this baby, it's
[13:21] Speaker 1: uniquely for manners. I don't know. It remint any of
[13:23] Speaker 1: the stories where people claim they will be pretty by
[13:26] Speaker 1: a extrateration being since you know, since childhood, like I
[13:30] Speaker 1: heard you on your podcast before. But yeah, I just
[13:34] Speaker 1: wanted to tell these stories. You know, I've been listening
[13:38] Speaker 1: to your show for years now, I think, and yeah,
[13:42] Speaker 1: I want to express make gratitude for the impact you
[13:44] Speaker 1: have and actually weekly to hear of these wonderful stories.
[13:47] Speaker 4: Make wonderful Oscar. Jeez, that must have been quite scary
[13:52] Speaker 4: for you your mother.
[13:53] Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, she was.
[13:55] Speaker 4: It's always concerning, especially when there's a child involved.
[14:00] Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, she was. She was really, she was really scared,
[14:03] Speaker 1: and you know, all my family was there and they
[14:07] Speaker 1: saw her reaction. So that's what scared my family as well.
[14:11] Speaker 1: That's what I think it is. I think it's a
[14:13] Speaker 1: great for sure, because if you describe it to me
[14:16] Speaker 1: a cat, I'm not gonna say it, so dug you know.
[14:19] Speaker 1: She described it to me a grade, so that's what
[14:23] Speaker 1: we she saw.
[14:24] Speaker 4: And when she said it resembled a burns victim was
[14:29] Speaker 4: that because of the no hair, didn't see any scarring
[14:33] Speaker 4: or any anything like that.
[14:34] Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's good because she she didn't
[14:38] Speaker 1: quite found the word at first because when when that
[14:41] Speaker 1: happened on that night, she described it as burning. So
[14:45] Speaker 1: that's why my wife burst into tears because she was like, whoa,
[14:48] Speaker 1: what's on this house?
[14:50] Speaker 3: You know? Or you know?
[14:53] Speaker 1: And but then when I started to, you know, question
[14:56] Speaker 1: her more and she she started to say, well, it
[14:59] Speaker 1: was it was like burns, but then again it was
[15:02] Speaker 1: like raincoall like one of those two. And the next
[15:05] Speaker 1: day it was Easter. The next day we were at
[15:09] Speaker 1: my at my aunt's house and I Google a picture
[15:12] Speaker 1: of a gray and I spoke to her and she
[15:15] Speaker 1: almost had a nervous breakdown again. She was like, yeah,
[15:18] Speaker 1: that's what I saw. That's exactly what I saw. And
[15:22] Speaker 1: I actually see how she could have mistaken that for
[15:26] Speaker 1: for like a burnt skin, you know. I mean, they're
[15:29] Speaker 1: like raincole in a way. And then and then I
[15:31] Speaker 1: get the grainy camera wasn't wasn't too.
[15:34] Speaker 4: Much help, you know, right, Okay, you actually managed to
[15:38] Speaker 4: pick something up on the monitor.
[15:40] Speaker 1: No, not on the monitor, because it didn't It doesn't record.
[15:43] Speaker 1: It's just like a simple monitor, I mean just to
[15:45] Speaker 1: shake on the on the baby, so I didn't record.
[15:48] Speaker 1: But uh, but the Google picture that I showed her
[15:51] Speaker 1: of a gray, that's where where she was like, yeah,
[15:54] Speaker 1: that's that's what I saw. That that resembles what I
[15:57] Speaker 1: what I saw. But yeah, I know we were we
[15:59] Speaker 1: were in court. It doesn't new court, so we didn't
[16:02] Speaker 1: cut any It would have been amazing to me.
[16:05] Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always the way.
[16:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always. It's always when you expected.
[16:10] Speaker 4: Exactly you said your mother went into the room because
[16:15] Speaker 4: of that. The camera was in the wrong position, so
[16:17] Speaker 4: it was like it had been moved.
[16:19] Speaker 1: No, At first, my wife put the camera in the
[16:22] Speaker 1: but it was like on top of some blankets. You know,
[16:25] Speaker 1: we will be able to see the baby. So I
[16:27] Speaker 1: guess it moved because of the blankets. Yeah, it moves
[16:30] Speaker 1: because of the blanket. So that's why she went inside
[16:32] Speaker 1: the room to fix it and you know, put it
[16:35] Speaker 1: like at a better angle, and.
[16:37] Speaker 2: Uh, that's why.
[16:38] Speaker 1: That's why she went into the room. And then when
[16:40] Speaker 1: she got out a few seconds past, she saw the
[16:43] Speaker 1: camera again and that's when when.
[16:45] Speaker 4: She started, okay and ask her how long have you
[16:48] Speaker 4: lived in that property?
[16:50] Speaker 1: Actually around it's going to be maybe four years. It's
[16:54] Speaker 1: too new areas that the house was new. But yeah,
[16:57] Speaker 1: the house is new. We've been here for almost like
[17:00] Speaker 1: four years. We've never had any ghost experiences or like
[17:05] Speaker 1: this this place is haunted, nothing like that. And I
[17:07] Speaker 1: even went as far when I come home that night,
[17:10] Speaker 1: I even went as first to like shake the window. Nothing,
[17:13] Speaker 1: nothing unusual. There were no footprints. Well we have we
[17:17] Speaker 1: have carpet, so there were no footprints. And I even
[17:20] Speaker 1: went first to smell the part where my where my
[17:23] Speaker 1: mom saw the little hands. Nothing. Nothing initial been.
[17:28] Speaker 4: There about four years, never had anything happen before.
[17:32] Speaker 1: No, no, nothing like that. I mean, you know, the
[17:35] Speaker 1: usual shadow, but I mean, then again, those two are
[17:38] Speaker 1: kind of like maybe you're even imagining.
[17:41] Speaker 3: You know.
[17:42] Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd probably keep the cameras pointing for now, you know,
[17:45] Speaker 4: when your baby goes back into their own bed.
[17:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I was trying to do. I
[17:52] Speaker 1: was trying to you know, maybe put a camera here,
[17:55] Speaker 1: one that records, and put like a decour on the
[17:59] Speaker 1: batment to see what can I if I even capture something.
[18:02] Speaker 4: You Yeah, because you can get those ones where they
[18:06] Speaker 4: you can have the app on your phone so you
[18:08] Speaker 4: can keep a watch just in case it could just
[18:11] Speaker 4: be a one off. Yeah, I definitely keep us updated
[18:15] Speaker 4: if anything does happen again.
[18:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. And it's creepy. It's something
[18:20] Speaker 1: if it's a great if it's something of that sort,
[18:23] Speaker 1: it's something that can just come in here and invite
[18:26] Speaker 1: it whenever they want, you know, if there's two dimensional being,
[18:30] Speaker 1: so they don't have to open the windows, they don't
[18:32] Speaker 1: have to open doors. So that's what's creepy to me,
[18:35] Speaker 1: you know.
[18:36] Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, and your partner and your mother must
[18:40] Speaker 4: have been quite scary ahead. Yeah, good stuff, Oscar.
[18:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean, if something happens, for sure, I
[18:47] Speaker 1: will be coming back with the update. Hopefully I can
[18:50] Speaker 1: record something, but yeah, for sure. Thank you for around
[18:53] Speaker 1: me to share my story.
[18:55] Speaker 4: You're more than welcome, Oscar. And I'm glad you're a
[18:57] Speaker 4: listener of the show for quite a while on it.
[19:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, actually, yeah, for quite a while, I think years. Yeah,
[19:05] Speaker 1: you're sure it's one of the best ones out there,
[19:07] Speaker 1: not like this one, you know, because you always hear
[19:09] Speaker 1: another podcast in this you know, a lot of conversation
[19:13] Speaker 1: and then they go off topic, and yeah, nothing like yours.
[19:17] Speaker 1: Yours is my my main one. Yeah, and I follow
[19:20] Speaker 1: like crypt pages on Facebook and people are always asking
[19:24] Speaker 1: what what are good podcasts that I can hear, you know,
[19:26] Speaker 1: and I always tell you in Facebook, I always mentioned
[19:28] Speaker 1: your podcast to people.
[19:30] Speaker 4: That's very kind of you, wonderful, Oscar. I really appreciate
[19:34] Speaker 4: you coming on sharing that for our listeners.
[19:36] Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. I appreciate me in your podcast
[19:39] Speaker 1: and everything that you do. Keep keep doing it, and
[19:41] Speaker 1: I'll just wait for the next episode and then yeah,
[19:45] Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, Oscar.
[19:47] Speaker 4: Okay, take care, keep in contact, all right, and we
[19:50] Speaker 4: will speak soon for sure.
[19:52] Speaker 1: Thank you.
[19:53] Speaker 4: Enjoy your rescue evening, Oscar bye for now.
[19:55] Speaker 1: Likewise, by.
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[20:38] Speaker 4: Hello, Ray, welcome to the podcast.
[20:42] Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
[20:43] Speaker 4: You're more than welcome. And you're calling from Washington State
[20:46] Speaker 4: up in the Pacific Northwest.
[20:49] Speaker 3: That's correct, wonderful.
[20:51] Speaker 4: Now, Ray, you have a few experiences of UFO and
[20:55] Speaker 4: the paranormal to share of us today. Would you like
[20:57] Speaker 4: to start at the beginning, please.
[20:58] Speaker 3: Sir, I'd like to take everybody back to I believe
[21:04] Speaker 3: it was two thousand and four in extreme northeast Washington State.
[21:10] Speaker 3: There's a little hydro electric plant called Box Canyon Dam.
[21:15] Speaker 3: Next to it is a little artificial lake with a
[21:19] Speaker 3: dock right in the middle. I was about eight years old,
[21:23] Speaker 3: camping with my grandma and I was out playing on
[21:27] Speaker 3: the dock looking for fish swimming around, and then I
[21:31] Speaker 3: looked over towards the hydro electric plant and there was this.
[21:38] Speaker 3: The closest I could describe it would be a crescent shaped,
[21:42] Speaker 3: almost like a croissant, but without all the ridges of
[21:46] Speaker 3: the layering, and it was just hovering there. It was
[21:51] Speaker 3: silver and no noise whatsoever. About two minutes later, some
[21:57] Speaker 3: other people like saw it, kind of pointed at it,
[22:00] Speaker 3: and then it just zipped off. It was like nothing
[22:05] Speaker 3: I had ever seen up to that point, and I
[22:09] Speaker 3: kind of was flabbergasted, I guess would be the right word,
[22:13] Speaker 3: that it just flying off. And then not a minute later,
[22:18] Speaker 3: a pair of F sixteen fighter jets with the US
[22:20] Speaker 3: Air Force came flying by, just probably ten feet above
[22:25] Speaker 3: the tree tops, chasing after it, and the force from
[22:31] Speaker 3: how fast they were going and how low they were
[22:33] Speaker 3: flying had me as a child, just flung off of
[22:37] Speaker 3: the dock almost five ten feet. I was forty five
[22:42] Speaker 3: fifty five pounds at the time, and that was kind
[22:45] Speaker 3: of just the coolest thing that had ever happened to
[22:49] Speaker 3: me up to that point. And about three hours later,
[22:53] Speaker 3: the pilots that were flying those two F sixteen's. They
[22:56] Speaker 3: didn't bring their weapons system operators with them. The pilots
[23:00] Speaker 3: themselves came and I got to talking to them and
[23:06] Speaker 3: I was like, what were you guys doing? That was
[23:08] Speaker 3: really cool? And they said that they were chasing the
[23:11] Speaker 3: UFO and that caught me off guard because I didn't
[23:16] Speaker 3: even have any kind of concept of the UFO issue
[23:22] Speaker 3: at that point, or that the military would have anything
[23:25] Speaker 3: to do with it, especially the Air Force. I mean,
[23:28] Speaker 3: I was confused, and you know, they they were dead
[23:34] Speaker 3: set on it being a UFO. They were chasing it,
[23:38] Speaker 3: but they had no way to catch up with it.
[23:41] Speaker 3: It just way outpaced them. And they also told me
[23:44] Speaker 3: that it was not the first time that this had
[23:47] Speaker 3: happened in the area, and that kind of also stuck
[23:52] Speaker 3: with me for the last twenty years or so. I
[23:56] Speaker 3: would estimate the size on the craft that I saw
[24:00] Speaker 3: that day at probably twenty five feet across. But it
[24:05] Speaker 3: was just such a surreal experience, and that's just kind
[24:10] Speaker 3: of what kicked off the sightings that I've had throughout
[24:14] Speaker 3: the last twenty years. The next big sighting that I
[24:18] Speaker 3: had was about a year later, maybe a year and
[24:23] Speaker 3: four months later. It was the fall of two thousand
[24:27] Speaker 3: and five, just before school was starting for the year
[24:30] Speaker 3: I was. This would put me at about nine years old.
[24:35] Speaker 3: It was about five thirty in the evening and a
[24:38] Speaker 3: little town in eastern Washington, and it was just after
[24:43] Speaker 3: the sun had gone down behind the mountains to the west,
[24:47] Speaker 3: and there was five bright lights, just bright red, kind
[24:53] Speaker 3: of rust colored lights, just circling each other in the
[24:57] Speaker 3: eastern sky at I would put it probably about forty
[25:02] Speaker 3: degrees from the horizon, and they were just circling back
[25:09] Speaker 3: and forth, darting between each other and just narrowly missing
[25:14] Speaker 3: each other. Then they started. There was beams of electric
[25:20] Speaker 3: blue light going from one of these objects to another,
[25:25] Speaker 3: and eventually it looked like one made contact. One of
[25:30] Speaker 3: the beams made contact with these reddish rust colored lights,
[25:37] Speaker 3: and it began to spiral, almost out of control, and
[25:44] Speaker 3: it looked like it went down to the ground and
[25:48] Speaker 3: an uncontrolled spiral, just speeding up as it was heading
[25:51] Speaker 3: towards the ground, and almost like a slight smoke trail
[25:57] Speaker 3: left from whatever damage been done. And this would have
[26:02] Speaker 3: happened about twelve to fifteen miles away according to my mom,
[26:07] Speaker 3: who was also a witness at the time, from a
[26:10] Speaker 3: different point of view. She was at work at the
[26:13] Speaker 3: time and saw the same thing from different part of
[26:16] Speaker 3: the town and it went down. And I've over time,
[26:22] Speaker 3: I've been able to kind of calculate that it fell
[26:25] Speaker 3: into what's called the Calville National Forest. And the neat
[26:29] Speaker 3: thing about the Callville National Forest is that it also
[26:32] Speaker 3: happens to be a US Air Force survival training ground
[26:37] Speaker 3: in the Greater Carville National Forest area. They do regular patrols.
[26:43] Speaker 3: They come into town to get supplies, you know, usually
[26:47] Speaker 3: once a week, once every couple of weeks. And that
[26:51] Speaker 3: was that was my second big one. I had just
[26:55] Speaker 3: kind of outstanding to me at that point. I was
[26:58] Speaker 3: starting to learn about you. I had been, you know,
[27:01] Speaker 3: watching a few documentaries with my mom and my dad.
[27:05] Speaker 3: It was just the coolest thing because I knew that
[27:10] Speaker 3: there was something with that that just it wasn't from
[27:15] Speaker 3: the reality that I had known, and since that point,
[27:19] Speaker 3: reality has always meant something different. It was profoundly changing
[27:24] Speaker 3: on my point of view and my worldview for the
[27:28] Speaker 3: rest of my life, at least up until this point.
[27:31] Speaker 3: And then my my third sighting that I'd like to
[27:35] Speaker 3: talk about today is it happened about a month ago.
[27:41] Speaker 3: On March eighteenth, twenty twenty four, I had just gotten
[27:45] Speaker 3: home from work and looked up towards the moon. It
[27:48] Speaker 3: was probably about a third of the way across the
[27:51] Speaker 3: sky at this point, and it was seven thirty four pm.
[27:56] Speaker 3: I actually recorded this on the Phenom app, which I
[28:00] Speaker 3: recommend to anybody looking for an app to capture any
[28:04] Speaker 3: kind of event like this. I noticed a glowing whitish
[28:08] Speaker 3: goldish colored or hovering at about one thousand feet in
[28:12] Speaker 3: the air, noiselessly, and I grabbed my phone and opened
[28:19] Speaker 3: the app, the Phenom app, and it began to slowly
[28:25] Speaker 3: move towards true north, as opposed to magnetic north, which
[28:29] Speaker 3: is a few degrees off if you are well versed
[28:33] Speaker 3: in navigation. But it was heading towards true north. It
[28:38] Speaker 3: looked to be going maybe ten fifteen miles an hour.
[28:43] Speaker 3: I'm not sure what that would be in kilometers an
[28:45] Speaker 3: hour for anybody out there that doesn't use the Imperial system.
[28:51] Speaker 3: But it had no sound and it just kept moving
[28:56] Speaker 3: true north. I recorded it until trees obscure it from
[29:00] Speaker 3: my view. I talked to the local school districts and
[29:05] Speaker 3: none of them had launched any kind of weather balloon.
[29:07] Speaker 3: As like a science class experiment or anything like that,
[29:11] Speaker 3: and there was nothing on the ADSB exchange or any
[29:17] Speaker 3: kind of flight radar or anything like that that was
[29:20] Speaker 3: registered the next day, and the quaintance that I know
[29:26] Speaker 3: that also lives in the same town that I do,
[29:28] Speaker 3: said that they had seen the same object at the
[29:31] Speaker 3: same time from about half a mile three quarters of
[29:36] Speaker 3: a mile away from me, but they had a set
[29:39] Speaker 3: of binoculars. When they looked through the binoculars at this object,
[29:44] Speaker 3: it was like a silver with gold tint metallic sphere
[29:51] Speaker 3: with a slight groove going across the upper third of it.
[29:55] Speaker 3: I know with arrow their big thing is the metallic
[30:00] Speaker 3: spheres that have been seen at you know, training ranges
[30:04] Speaker 3: and combat zones across the world, wells here in the
[30:08] Speaker 3: United States, and I believe that that was a sighting
[30:13] Speaker 3: of one of those, and that was just a really
[30:16] Speaker 3: cool thing. And that was probably the best daytime capture
[30:20] Speaker 3: that I've been able to get. And it is uploaded
[30:24] Speaker 3: on the internet for those who'd like to see it.
[30:26] Speaker 3: And those are three of my favorite sightings.
[30:30] Speaker 4: Good job Ray. Okay, of course, Washington State it's always
[30:35] Speaker 4: been a bit of a hotbed for UFO science.
[30:38] Speaker 3: Yes, since nineteen forty seven with Kenneth Arnold over Mount
[30:43] Speaker 3: Rainier or just east of Mount Rainier. There's always been
[30:47] Speaker 3: a massive amount of UFO sidings in Washington State.
[30:52] Speaker 4: And your signs that you had they put you on
[30:55] Speaker 4: this path of interest and subject.
[30:58] Speaker 3: I do believe so I've grown up in Washington State
[31:01] Speaker 3: since moving up from California in the late nineties, and
[31:06] Speaker 3: for the last at least twenty years, there's been sightings
[31:10] Speaker 3: that I've been told about and sightings that I've had myself.
[31:14] Speaker 3: None of it can be attributed to, you know, natural
[31:18] Speaker 3: causes or phenomenon that I've been able to learn about,
[31:21] Speaker 3: beit satellites, planes, birds, or you know, even ball lightning
[31:26] Speaker 3: and this interest.
[31:28] Speaker 4: You've decided to make a documentary specifically on Washington State
[31:32] Speaker 4: of UFO science.
[31:34] Speaker 3: That's correct. My main focus is going to be in
[31:39] Speaker 3: the eastern and central Washington areas because that's where I've
[31:44] Speaker 3: grown up and you know, where I've had all of
[31:47] Speaker 3: my own sightings, and I'd like to be able to
[31:51] Speaker 3: share not only my sightings, but everyone who lives in
[31:56] Speaker 3: the area has likely seen something at one point or another,
[32:00] Speaker 3: whether it's been you know, a catastrophic change for them,
[32:03] Speaker 3: or just you know, something weird that they dismiss. There
[32:07] Speaker 3: is something happening, and I believe it's you know, everybody's
[32:12] Speaker 3: duty to pitch in as a human species to try
[32:18] Speaker 3: and further any kind of documentary evidence that we can
[32:21] Speaker 3: gather on this, or even just share some cool sightings,
[32:26] Speaker 3: any video clips that you know you might have that
[32:30] Speaker 3: compiling it into a single, unified place will help immensely,
[32:36] Speaker 3: you know, with any kind of data that we can
[32:38] Speaker 3: gather learn more about the subject.
[32:40] Speaker 4: So you're looking for people to get into contact with
[32:43] Speaker 4: you from those areas.
[32:45] Speaker 3: Absolutely, if you have a sighting that you'd like to
[32:48] Speaker 3: talk about and you're willing to go on camera and
[32:51] Speaker 3: talk about it, I can obscure your identity if that's
[32:54] Speaker 3: something that you wish. If you have any kind of
[32:57] Speaker 3: worry about that, That's all I care is finding the truth,
[33:02] Speaker 3: and the truth is out there. Sorry to quote the
[33:04] Speaker 3: X files.
[33:05] Speaker 4: But it is that is true. Okay. How can people
[33:08] Speaker 4: reach you?
[33:09] Speaker 3: Ray? The easiest way to reach me would be send
[33:12] Speaker 3: an email to UAP Insight Pictures at ProtonMail dot com.
[33:18] Speaker 3: I'm also reachable on x formerly Twitter at ray Gun
[33:24] Speaker 3: nineteen eighty wonderful.
[33:26] Speaker 4: I will put all your links in a description for
[33:28] Speaker 4: you so people can reach out. And you said you've
[33:31] Speaker 4: had some paranormal experiences.
[33:33] Speaker 3: Ray, Yeah, I've I've had one extremely strange paranormal experience.
[33:41] Speaker 3: So the day before I had actually I was listening
[33:46] Speaker 3: to your podcast about a couple weeks ago, and there
[33:51] Speaker 3: is one of your guests had a experience about being
[33:56] Speaker 3: forced off of the road by a military type convoy
[34:00] Speaker 3: that had a flatbed eighteen wheel truck. I believe it
[34:04] Speaker 3: was down in Nevada or in Utah that they were
[34:09] Speaker 3: talking about, and that kind of triggered a memory for
[34:13] Speaker 3: me because I had a very similar experience in Spokane County, Washington,
[34:19] Speaker 3: where Fairchild Air Force Base is located. So I was
[34:23] Speaker 3: driving on the highway south towards Spokane and it was
[34:29] Speaker 3: about twelve thirty at night, and I had been forced
[34:32] Speaker 3: off the road this strange object on the back of
[34:35] Speaker 3: a flatbed truck that was covered in a black tarp,
[34:39] Speaker 3: dozens of military vehicles, highway patrol, you name it. They
[34:43] Speaker 3: forced me off into a way station for eighteen wheelers
[34:47] Speaker 3: and kind of blocked my view as best they could
[34:51] Speaker 3: and just drove by didn't say a word, just kind
[34:54] Speaker 3: of glared at me the whole time. And the following day,
[34:58] Speaker 3: I was at my dad's house. We were working on
[35:02] Speaker 3: a car together, and we had just finished up for
[35:05] Speaker 3: the day and I was standing next to this set
[35:10] Speaker 3: of shelfs that we had in the garage, and there
[35:14] Speaker 3: was a fuel pump that would have been right about
[35:18] Speaker 3: thigh height, so about two feet off the ground or so,
[35:22] Speaker 3: and it was sitting on the shelf. My dad was
[35:25] Speaker 3: on the opposite side of the garage, probably about twenty
[35:28] Speaker 3: feet away, and I was standing about two feet in
[35:31] Speaker 3: front of this shelf. The fuel pump that was on
[35:36] Speaker 3: the shelf flew up, completely untouched and hit me in
[35:43] Speaker 3: the back of the head hard enough to where it
[35:45] Speaker 3: actually slightly cut my scalp open. It was extremely scary
[35:51] Speaker 3: when that happened, and I mean I probably spent the
[35:56] Speaker 3: next two or three hours in complete shocked us at
[36:00] Speaker 3: the the nature of the event. And you know, I
[36:04] Speaker 3: had no warning, and my dad just dropped everything, and
[36:10] Speaker 3: you know, he wouldn't go in that garage for about
[36:13] Speaker 3: two weeks after the event, and I couldn't go back
[36:16] Speaker 3: to that house for I want to say, almost a month.
[36:22] Speaker 3: Because I was just so terrified of what had happened there.
[36:25] Speaker 3: I mean, it just it felt as though it had
[36:27] Speaker 3: malicious intent, and I believe that it was connected somehow
[36:34] Speaker 3: to what had driven by on that flat that truck.
[36:39] Speaker 4: There hadn't been anything that had happened in the garage beforehand.
[36:44] Speaker 3: Never, I mean the garage had always just been, you know,
[36:48] Speaker 3: the place where we worked on a car. I mean,
[36:51] Speaker 3: that had never had any kind of strange experiences out there.
[36:56] Speaker 3: I mean, the the closest to a strange experience out
[36:59] Speaker 3: there was dropped being a wrench and it not hitting
[37:03] Speaker 3: the floor up to that point because the engine caught it.
[37:06] Speaker 4: Very peculious. You think it's connected to what was possibly
[37:09] Speaker 4: on that flatbed.
[37:10] Speaker 3: I do, because it was about it was less than
[37:15] Speaker 3: twenty four hours later. I would say it was sixteen
[37:18] Speaker 3: hours later. And there had never been any kind of
[37:22] Speaker 3: paranormal activity of any sort in that house up to
[37:25] Speaker 3: this point. And then I see something being transported by
[37:31] Speaker 3: a military convoy in black unmarked vehicles that forced me
[37:36] Speaker 3: off of the road, with a large object on the
[37:40] Speaker 3: back of an eighteen wheeler with a flatbed that didn't
[37:45] Speaker 3: match any shape of any military vehicle I was familiar with,
[37:49] Speaker 3: and it was such a short amount of time afterwards
[37:52] Speaker 3: that I feel in my gut that there was some
[37:55] Speaker 3: kind of connection.
[37:56] Speaker 4: Okay, did you get much of a look at what
[37:58] Speaker 4: was on there?
[37:59] Speaker 3: It was this is extremely dark the center. Probably six
[38:06] Speaker 3: vehicles in the convoy had all of their lights off,
[38:09] Speaker 3: including the eighteen wheeler itself, and it was a very
[38:13] Speaker 3: dark area of the road. But I do recall that
[38:18] Speaker 3: there was a large, probably thirty five foot long object
[38:24] Speaker 3: on the back of this truck and it went by
[38:27] Speaker 3: it probably ten to fifteen miles an hour, and it
[38:30] Speaker 3: almost looked as though it was rocking on the back
[38:33] Speaker 3: of the truck. The closest shape I could compare it
[38:37] Speaker 3: to would be like an egg in the front and
[38:41] Speaker 3: just like a long curve in.
[38:44] Speaker 4: The middle, and he was covered in the top.
[38:47] Speaker 3: Yeah, it was completely black tarp at twelve thirty at night.
[38:52] Speaker 3: It helps obscure what's on the truck. Severely interesting.
[38:57] Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that was Desert Highway episode two six'.
[39:01] Speaker 4: FOUR i think when you mean when down In.
[39:03] Speaker 3: Nevada, Yes, yeah it was WHEN i listened to that
[39:08] Speaker 3: episode that sparked the memory again of what had happened
[39:12] Speaker 3: during that twenty four hour, span very.
[39:15] Speaker 4: Strange you may have come into contact with possibly some
[39:18] Speaker 4: kind of. Energy.
[39:19] Speaker 3: MAYBE i definitely think that that's, possible BECAUSE i, mean
[39:23] Speaker 3: since that, Day i've always kind of been able to
[39:28] Speaker 3: feel if an energy is off in a, situation and
[39:32] Speaker 3: It's it's helped me a lot make decisions throughout my
[39:35] Speaker 3: life since that. Happened AND i believe that Was august
[39:39] Speaker 3: of twenty sixteen when that.
[39:42] Speaker 4: Happened, yeah there's been quite a few reports of people
[39:47] Speaker 4: being stepped off the. Road so these these conboys can
[39:51] Speaker 4: pass by and the, officers they didn't say nothing to.
[39:53] Speaker 4: You they just kind of just glared at.
[39:55] Speaker 3: You they that's. Correct AND i attempted to ask what
[39:59] Speaker 3: was going on, on but they just had this dead
[40:03] Speaker 3: pant stare right at my car and wouldn't answer any.
[40:07] Speaker 3: Questions AND i even reached out to The Air force
[40:10] Speaker 3: for any kind of clarification on if this was something
[40:14] Speaker 3: that they were, conducting BUT i was never able to
[40:17] Speaker 3: get any kind of answers from Any Air force representatives
[40:20] Speaker 3: on what was going on and.
[40:22] Speaker 4: Any idea what the nearest base would have.
[40:25] Speaker 3: Been that would have Been Fairchild Air Force base In Spokane, County.
[40:30] Speaker 3: Washington it's located In Airway heights about probably about twenty
[40:37] Speaker 3: twenty five minutes outside Of, Spokane.
[40:39] Speaker 4: Washington, okay so right up there in the, northeast northeast
[40:43] Speaker 4: to state the very top.
[40:44] Speaker 3: End, Correct AND i was driving from the north Towards
[40:50] Speaker 3: spokane on a highway three ninety, five which goes all
[40:54] Speaker 3: the way up to The canadian border Through Stevens.
[40:56] Speaker 4: County so through The Coville National. Forest. Yes, INTERESTING i
[41:01] Speaker 4: wonder what you saw me, too good. Job What i'll
[41:05] Speaker 4: do Is i'll put it all details into the description
[41:08] Speaker 4: so people can reach out to, you so, hopefully you,
[41:10] Speaker 4: know get people in that. Area and we do have
[41:13] Speaker 4: our listeners In Washington. State so if you are in
[41:17] Speaker 4: The Washington state and you feel like you'd like to
[41:20] Speaker 4: share your account on Camera, forray do get in. Contact
[41:24] Speaker 4: i'd love to.
[41:24] Speaker 3: Hear. YEAH i, mean whether you're an Active Air force
[41:28] Speaker 3: personnel Or joe guy from down the, street your account
[41:33] Speaker 3: is just as important to hear no matter where you come. From.
[41:36] Speaker 4: ABSOLUTELY i also have a percentage of people that reached
[41:40] Speaker 4: out to me that don't want their story, shared which
[41:43] Speaker 4: is a shame because they just really want to tell. Me,
[41:45] Speaker 4: So i'm stuck with these accounts WHICH i can share with, anyone,
[41:49] Speaker 4: unfortunately because whether they're still active or they're retired and
[41:54] Speaker 4: maybe on, disability and they're worried if they do come
[41:57] Speaker 4: out and share.
[41:58] Speaker 3: This, yeah And I'VE i think a big part of
[42:01] Speaker 3: that is just down to the stigma that's still attached
[42:06] Speaker 3: to the, subject despite the hard efforts of people Like
[42:09] Speaker 3: Leslie kane And Ralph blumenthal And Ross, Coolthart Jeremy, corbel
[42:16] Speaker 3: Even Stephen greer To James, fox you, know there's always
[42:21] Speaker 3: going to be a stigma attached to. This but the
[42:24] Speaker 3: only thing that we as a community can do is
[42:28] Speaker 3: work together and just the stigma doesn't need to hold us.
[42:33] Speaker 1: BACK i.
[42:34] Speaker 4: AGREE i, agree it is coming. Along more people are
[42:38] Speaker 4: waking up and saying to themselves there is something in,
[42:41] Speaker 4: this definitely. Something there's more people are taking.
[42:44] Speaker 3: Note, yes right now is the best time to be
[42:49] Speaker 3: learning about the phenomenon as a whole and about every
[42:53] Speaker 3: aspect of, it whether it's an abduction experience or the
[42:58] Speaker 3: hitchhiker effect not so, bolts or you, know even just
[43:02] Speaker 3: some weird dreams that you might have had that you
[43:04] Speaker 3: know are somehow connected to other things that may have
[43:08] Speaker 3: happened to, you be, it you, know like a paranormal
[43:11] Speaker 3: encounter or seeing something in the.
[43:15] Speaker 5: Sky, exactly it's all, valid it's all worth being, heard
[43:19] Speaker 5: it's all worth people coming out and sharing what they've,
[43:22] Speaker 5: experienced because if they, didn't then we you, know we
[43:24] Speaker 5: wouldn't we wouldn't learn about.
[43:26] Speaker 3: Anything, yes AND i encourage everyone to just try and
[43:31] Speaker 3: be a lifelong learner because your life will be so
[43:35] Speaker 3: much more. Fulfilling kind of any show that deals with
[43:38] Speaker 3: like paranormal or aliens or space or you, know something like,
[43:43] Speaker 3: that you, know just for the entertainment and to pick it.
[43:46] Speaker 3: APART i, Mean i'm Rewatching THE X files right now
[43:49] Speaker 3: with my. Wife ever SINCE i Heard diana posalka mention
[43:53] Speaker 3: THAT i believe it was in the first episode of
[43:58] Speaker 3: the last season they. Had she said that one of her, Contacts,
[44:01] Speaker 3: tyler said that there was an insider that was feeding
[44:06] Speaker 3: the producers and the director's inside.
[44:09] Speaker 4: Information, yeah that WAS i mean that was known about
[44:12] Speaker 4: back in the? Night is that that was the?
[44:13] Speaker 3: DEAL i just think with a modern view going, back
[44:17] Speaker 3: you can obviously pick out which episodes are just the,
[44:22] Speaker 3: filler but also with in light of the. Revelation since you,
[44:26] Speaker 3: Know David grush And Timothy galladay and you, know all
[44:30] Speaker 3: of them have come out and started to, SPEAK i
[44:32] Speaker 3: think that you can go through and pick out the
[44:36] Speaker 3: bits and pieces of information that have been confirmed in
[44:39] Speaker 3: an official. CAPACITY i, mean Even, luelizondo et.
[44:43] Speaker 4: Cetera shame That THE X files it was when they
[44:46] Speaker 4: went on the storylines a bit too too. HEAVY i
[44:49] Speaker 4: always prefer The monster of The week type episodes where
[44:53] Speaker 4: they would just. Standalone when they started to connect, THINGS
[44:56] Speaker 4: i think it got a little bit silly after a.
[44:58] Speaker 4: WHILE i think they're doing a reboo.
[45:00] Speaker 3: Now that's WHAT i. Heard i'm not gonna put any
[45:03] Speaker 3: faith into it UNTIL i actually see a release.
[45:06] Speaker 4: Date if it's not going to Be scully And, MOLDER
[45:08] Speaker 4: i don't. Know it probably won't be the. Same BUT
[45:11] Speaker 4: i still enjoy Watching THE X, files even after all these.
[45:14] Speaker 3: Years, yeah the entertainment factor alone is worth the. Watch
[45:18] Speaker 3: even if half the episodes are complete. Nonsense it's still
[45:23] Speaker 3: fun to watch and fun to kind of reminisce about
[45:26] Speaker 3: how the world was back.
[45:27] Speaker 4: THEN i remember WHEN i was researching, this it was
[45:30] Speaker 4: back in the mid, nineties and it was at the
[45:32] Speaker 4: height of THE X, files and there was just so
[45:34] Speaker 4: much interest in the. Subject of course there is, now
[45:38] Speaker 4: but because of THE X, files it got people interested
[45:41] Speaker 4: in this type of. Stuff so it was a bit
[45:44] Speaker 4: of a win win in those.
[45:45] Speaker 3: Days, Yeah AND i think having something like that nowadays
[45:50] Speaker 3: to kind of jump start the new generation of people
[45:55] Speaker 3: who are coming of, age are about to come of
[45:57] Speaker 3: age with everything that's come, OUT i think a new
[46:02] Speaker 3: type of show in the style of THE X files
[46:05] Speaker 3: would go a long ways towards increasing support among the general.
[46:09] Speaker 4: PUBLIC i, AGREE i could definitely get a new. Audience wonderful. Stuff. Ray, Okay,
[46:15] Speaker 4: RAY i really appreciate you coming on sharing.
[46:17] Speaker 2: That for our.
[46:17] Speaker 3: Listeners, well thank you for having.
[46:19] Speaker 4: Me wonderful. Stuff. Ray, yeah keep in contact all, right
[46:22] Speaker 4: and we will speak soon and you enjoy the rec
[46:25] Speaker 4: of you re evening you as.
[46:26] Speaker 3: Well thanks for having.
[46:28] Speaker 4: Me no great, Stuff, Ray talk to you, Soon, ray
[46:30] Speaker 4: bye for. Now by. Back that is all for this.
[46:32] Speaker 4: Episode keep updated and connected with the show on X
[46:35] Speaker 4: facebook And. Instagram and if you have an encounter that
[46:38] Speaker 4: you'd like to share on the, podcast you can email
[46:41] Speaker 4: me AT Ufo chronicles at gmail dot, com or you
[46:45] Speaker 4: can reach out to me via the contact page on my,
[46:48] Speaker 4: WEBSITE Ufo chronicles podcast dot. COM a big thank you
[46:52] Speaker 4: To oscar And ray for sharing, tonight and thank you
[46:55] Speaker 4: all for. LISTENING i will be back next. Week till,
[46:59] Speaker 4: then stay say and keep watching the. Skies goodbye
[48:00] Speaker 2: Any

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