# Ep.391 The Dayton Encounters

An episode of [UFO Chronicles Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1488874171), 21 Jun 2026, 1 h 02 min.

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Tonight, Nick joins us to share unexplained experiences that began in early childhood. From memories of a possible past life and a strange encounter in his great-grandparents' home, to witnessing an unusual craft with neighbors across the street, Nick's story spans decades. He also discusses dreams that appear to predict future conversations, and the ongoing paranormal activity that his family experiences in the very home where many of these events first began. MORE ON THIS EPISODE Visit the episode page for additional information, links and additional material: https://ufochroniclespodcast.com/ep-391-the-dayton-encounters/ SHARE YOUR ENCOUNTER Have you witnessed a UFO, experienced something paranormal, or had an encounter you cannot explain? You can share your experience or apply to be a guest on the podcast here: https://ufochroniclespodcast.com/share-an-encounter/ SUPPORT UFO CHRONICLES PODCAST If you enjoy the podcast and would like to help support the show: Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/ufochroniclespodcast Patreon: https://patreon.com/UFOChroniclespodcast Podcast Merchandise: https://www.teepublic.com/user/ufo-chronicles-podcast Follow and subscribe on X: https://x.com/UFOchronpodcast/ All podcast links: https://linktr.ee/UFOChroniclesPodcast Thank you for listening and supporting UFO Chronicles Podcast. If you enjoy the show, please follow, rate and share the podcast. Sharing episodes on social media helps the show reach new listeners and, importantly, more witnesses with experiences to tell. Keep Watching The Skies. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/ufo-chronicles-podcast--3395068/support.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report
[0:02] Speaker 1: a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every
[0:08] Speaker 1: thirty one. Do you wish to report a UFO over hey,
[0:11] Speaker 1: we want to one of those data areas thirty one.
[0:15] Speaker 1: Do you wish to find a report of any kind
[0:17] Speaker 1: of it?
[0:18] Speaker 2: I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds, time.
[0:22] Speaker 1: Areas thirty one me neither there were self. If it
[0:27] Speaker 1: was anybody above us to pass us, Like thirty.
[0:30] Speaker 3: Seconds ago, we were sending one top of golf negative, okay,
[0:35] Speaker 3: OFFI the UFO.
[0:37] Speaker 2: Yeah it's murder ten nine o'clock. Yes, I'll just passed over.
[0:42] Speaker 1: I go. I don't know what it was, but it's
[0:44] Speaker 1: from at least to three thousand feet above us.
[0:47] Speaker 3: See, I passed right over the top of us. Ninety
[0:51] Speaker 3: one one.
[0:51] Speaker 2: You just called both to be be four.
[0:56] Speaker 1: They're after staying the airplanes?
[1:00] Speaker 2: He I where to god more calm on an unidentified object?
[1:05] Speaker 2: Every liberty or call or calm on an unidentified flying object.
[1:13] Speaker 3: A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
[1:19] Speaker 3: their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
[1:24] Speaker 3: an encounter, I would like to be on the show.
[1:27] Speaker 3: You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.
[1:48] Speaker 3: Hello everyone, how are you doing tonight? I'm Nick Hunter
[1:52] Speaker 3: and you're listening to the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight, Nick
[1:56] Speaker 3: joins us from the state of Ohio to share a
[1:59] Speaker 3: lifetime of unexplained experiences that began in early childhood, from
[2:04] Speaker 3: memories of a possible past life and a strange and
[2:07] Speaker 3: came to in his great grandparents' home, to witnessing an
[2:10] Speaker 3: unusual craft above his neighbour's house across the street, and
[2:14] Speaker 3: the ongoing paranormal activity that his family experiences in the
[2:19] Speaker 3: very home where many of these events first began. Nick
[2:23] Speaker 3: is up next, but first, if you enjoyed a show
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[2:41] Speaker 3: much appreciated. Now on with the show, Nick, Welcome to
[3:01] Speaker 3: the podcast.
[3:02] Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.
[3:03] Speaker 3: It's good to have you join us tonight because I
[3:06] Speaker 3: know it's late for you and you'll call in from Ohio.
[3:11] Speaker 1: State in Ohio. That's right home of Wright Patterson Air
[3:14] Speaker 1: Force Base. And you know, all that is strange.
[3:17] Speaker 3: Sometimes all that is strange. Yes, I always bring my
[3:20] Speaker 3: guest up on the Mamo and you got the Miami
[3:23] Speaker 3: River going through, Yeah, so I naturally googled it. I thought,
[3:26] Speaker 3: that's strange. Miami River. Does that go all the way
[3:28] Speaker 3: down to Florida? And it's not. It's named after the
[3:31] Speaker 3: Miami people, isn't it.
[3:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, heavy Native American culturally inspired naming of quite a
[3:39] Speaker 1: bit to deal with this area of Ohio. But it's
[3:44] Speaker 1: it's namely after indigenous and Native Americans.
[3:48] Speaker 3: So I was wondering why Miami because my brother lived
[3:50] Speaker 3: in Miami for a few years. I was worried about
[3:53] Speaker 3: the name. It makes sense now, but they didn't. They
[3:55] Speaker 3: never lived in Florida, did they.
[3:59] Speaker 1: It's funny how it seems like nowadays they're starting to
[4:03] Speaker 1: be this awakening of history that we're starting to see
[4:07] Speaker 1: and things are going back farther and farther. We're starting
[4:11] Speaker 1: to see the trade has been opened up in the
[4:13] Speaker 1: world much much sooner than we had thought much earlier.
[4:17] Speaker 1: But yeah, and I think that's somewhat of the magic
[4:20] Speaker 1: to this area. You know, because we've it's full of history.
[4:24] Speaker 1: I love this city that I've been lucky enough to
[4:27] Speaker 1: be born in and raised in. You know, it's nicknamed
[4:30] Speaker 1: the Gym City because we sat right above Cincinnati. We
[4:34] Speaker 1: were the gym on the crown of the queen city.
[4:38] Speaker 1: You know, that's what Cincinnati was named after. But it
[4:41] Speaker 1: was also you know, Cincinnati was such a hustling, bustling
[4:44] Speaker 1: trade point in the early development of Ohio into the
[4:50] Speaker 1: industry and to the eighteen hundreds that Dayton kind of
[4:54] Speaker 1: collected this unique atmosphere and we really again, I'm very
[5:01] Speaker 1: lucky to be from the area I'm from. I must say,
[5:05] Speaker 1: I love everything about this Now that's good.
[5:07] Speaker 3: I always love hearing the history of you know, where
[5:09] Speaker 3: people come from. Learn something every day.
[5:12] Speaker 1: I totally agree.
[5:13] Speaker 3: Okay, now, Nick, you have some experiences you're going to
[5:16] Speaker 3: be sharing with us. Would you like to start at
[5:18] Speaker 3: the beginning, please, sir?
[5:20] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, my experience has started at a very young age,
[5:24] Speaker 1: and it's not the youngest experience I had. I honestly
[5:29] Speaker 1: don't remember it completely. I sort of remember. We would
[5:34] Speaker 1: often go and we would stay over the weekend with
[5:37] Speaker 1: a relative. So this being my aunt at the time.
[5:40] Speaker 1: We would always she would take me out. We'd have
[5:43] Speaker 1: a good time. She'd take me out to eat, we'd
[5:45] Speaker 1: come back, we'd play games. She lived in a small
[5:48] Speaker 1: trailer in Dayton, Ohio at that time, and at the
[5:52] Speaker 1: end of the night, you know, we would start to
[5:54] Speaker 1: settle down. She had one bed, you know, I would
[5:58] Speaker 1: sleep next to her as she was. She was very protective.
[6:02] Speaker 1: She didn't have children of her own. She was my
[6:04] Speaker 1: mother's only sister, but she took great care of me,
[6:08] Speaker 1: and this story never left her and she would constantly
[6:15] Speaker 1: bring it up. Unfortunately, my aunt has passed away since then,
[6:18] Speaker 1: but it really affected her deeply. The story that she
[6:23] Speaker 1: would reiterate to me was that we were laying in
[6:28] Speaker 1: bed just talking through the night. You know. It often
[6:30] Speaker 1: would start with a story and then maybe would just
[6:33] Speaker 1: end with just us just talking until I fell asleep,
[6:36] Speaker 1: and I allegedly at that time, started to drift into
[6:44] Speaker 1: I guess a past life is the best. That's the
[6:46] Speaker 1: best way I can describe it. I spoke of an
[6:50] Speaker 1: area where I lived, friends that my father had, where
[6:55] Speaker 1: my father worked, you know, gave addresses of that nature,
[7:01] Speaker 1: and eventually drifted off to sleep. My aunt. The next
[7:05] Speaker 1: day when she dropped me off back to my parents,
[7:09] Speaker 1: she started talking to my dad about some of these
[7:12] Speaker 1: names in these places, and my dad had no clue
[7:17] Speaker 1: what she was talking about. Zero percent. This was kind
[7:22] Speaker 1: of a shock to him, you know. At the same time,
[7:26] Speaker 1: I was very very young. It was I have a
[7:29] Speaker 1: pretty decent memory from around the age of four to five,
[7:35] Speaker 1: but this probably would have been around the time I
[7:38] Speaker 1: would be three. I was most likely staying over there
[7:41] Speaker 1: because my brother was about to be born at that point,
[7:45] Speaker 1: so I remember I kind of got bounced around on
[7:48] Speaker 1: the weekends, so I'd go from my aunts and my grandmother's.
[7:51] Speaker 1: But it really it kind of, you know, shook him
[7:53] Speaker 1: a little bit too. He didn't quite know what to
[7:56] Speaker 1: take of it. So yeah, that kind of kicked every
[8:00] Speaker 1: thing off. Not long after that, you know, we would
[8:03] Speaker 1: go to another oddity that popped up. We would go
[8:08] Speaker 1: to family dinners on my dad's side of the family,
[8:11] Speaker 1: which nobody in my dad's side of the family was
[8:13] Speaker 1: extremely close, you know. Unfortunately, his mother passed away at
[8:18] Speaker 1: a very young age for him. He was around the
[8:20] Speaker 1: age of twelve when they got into a car accident
[8:24] Speaker 1: in the city close to where I'm at now in Inglewood, Ohio.
[8:28] Speaker 1: But this would have been his grandparents' farm house essentially
[8:33] Speaker 1: that they would go back to for these dinners, which
[8:37] Speaker 1: would have been my grandmother's house. So we would go
[8:42] Speaker 1: over there with the cousins and we would play. We'd
[8:44] Speaker 1: have a good time again pre internet days, so it
[8:48] Speaker 1: was all about just having fun running through the house.
[8:52] Speaker 1: The minimal toys that the toys they had there probably
[8:55] Speaker 1: were left over from when my dad was young, so
[8:58] Speaker 1: more of building blocks, things of that nature. But the
[9:02] Speaker 1: house had something about it. It had the beautiful old house,
[9:07] Speaker 1: two stories. Root cellar in the back had sliding doors
[9:11] Speaker 1: that basically quartered off the upstairs, the stairs that went
[9:16] Speaker 1: up to the second floor. There were two bedrooms upstairs
[9:19] Speaker 1: as from what I can remember, but I'll never forget
[9:23] Speaker 1: being in that small kind of hallway with my cousin
[9:29] Speaker 1: looking up the stairs and you can see it was
[9:33] Speaker 1: kind of honestly, it was kind of like that classic
[9:36] Speaker 1: movie where you would see a room, you would see
[9:40] Speaker 1: a rocking chair, you would see a ceiling fan. And
[9:44] Speaker 1: I had only been up there a couple times. I mean,
[9:46] Speaker 1: the room was very dated. They didn't really change the
[9:49] Speaker 1: house much it was mainly used just for those family occasions.
[9:53] Speaker 1: My aunts helped take care of the house. One of
[9:55] Speaker 1: them lived next door. So I remember being in the
[9:59] Speaker 1: hallway that with my cousin and looking up and just
[10:04] Speaker 1: seeing the rocking chair kind of rocking back and forth
[10:08] Speaker 1: on its own, and we could see the fan going
[10:13] Speaker 1: and not turned on, but slightly rotating. And we walked
[10:17] Speaker 1: up there, and when we walked up there, the window
[10:20] Speaker 1: was closed. There was no open air events anything of that.
[10:24] Speaker 1: It didn't the house didn't have central air like they
[10:28] Speaker 1: have now. By the time we walked up there, everything
[10:31] Speaker 1: kind of slowed down. The chair stopped moving, the fan
[10:35] Speaker 1: stopped moving. One of the ants, one of my dad's ants,
[10:39] Speaker 1: came up the stairs asked what we were doing in
[10:41] Speaker 1: the room because we shouldn't have been in the room,
[10:43] Speaker 1: to which we were then ushered out of the room.
[10:46] Speaker 1: That was a moment too that really struck me as
[10:50] Speaker 1: kind of odd. You know, as kids we all tell
[10:53] Speaker 1: ghost stories, but that felt so it was real and
[10:58] Speaker 1: is the only way I can just I mean, that happened,
[11:01] Speaker 1: and it really there was no way to explain it whatsoever.
[11:05] Speaker 1: Later in life now throughout my younger childhood, I spoke
[11:10] Speaker 1: of my brother when he was we were three years apart.
[11:13] Speaker 1: He unfortunately, when he was about he was probably three
[11:18] Speaker 1: or four, he was diagnosed with Dushane's muscular dystrophy. At
[11:23] Speaker 1: that point in time, it was still very There was
[11:26] Speaker 1: no treatments. Life expectancy was low. It was kind of
[11:30] Speaker 1: a shock for a family, especially a family that already
[11:33] Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot to begin with. We grew up
[11:36] Speaker 1: somewhat poor, but we had a house. That was the
[11:39] Speaker 1: main thing. You know that that was the important thing.
[11:42] Speaker 1: But it was kind of a struggle to watch him
[11:45] Speaker 1: not completely develop physically. The way Duchhane muscular dystrophy worked
[11:52] Speaker 1: is that it was a degenerative disease, a muscle disease.
[11:55] Speaker 1: Your body couldn't build muscles properly, and you couldn't the
[12:00] Speaker 1: protein just didn't take. So eventually his body grew, but
[12:06] Speaker 1: his legs couldn't support him. Over time, that weakened everything
[12:10] Speaker 1: that just from a physical perspective, it didn't progress. So
[12:15] Speaker 1: it was hard for my brother to make friends once
[12:17] Speaker 1: he did get into elementary school. Things like that. That time,
[12:21] Speaker 1: there wasn't a great support system. I guess you would
[12:25] Speaker 1: say for those types of diseases, and the school system
[12:30] Speaker 1: was not made really handicap accessible. That still was kind
[12:34] Speaker 1: of behind the time, so to speak. Later on, he
[12:40] Speaker 1: ended up making friends with a boy across the street,
[12:44] Speaker 1: which Cody was. He was smart and you know, he
[12:46] Speaker 1: was my brother through and through, still a smart kid.
[12:50] Speaker 1: It didn't stop him from mentally developing at all. I mean,
[12:52] Speaker 1: he still couldn't, you know, get around it. He just
[12:55] Speaker 1: couldn't get around as well. He didn't fully. Unfortunately, it
[12:59] Speaker 1: wasn't until he was probably around the age of ten
[13:02] Speaker 1: or eleven that it got to the point of immobility.
[13:05] Speaker 1: So he ended up in a wheelchair at that point.
[13:08] Speaker 1: But younger he could still he could still get at it.
[13:11] Speaker 1: He made a friend across the street, though, and at
[13:15] Speaker 1: that time there weren't a ton of immigrants that at
[13:19] Speaker 1: least we knew, not in our neighborhood. Our neighborhood, it
[13:23] Speaker 1: still was kind of an old neighborhood developed in the fifties,
[13:27] Speaker 1: basic suburban you know, starter homes essentially three bedrooms, one bath,
[13:33] Speaker 1: nine hundred square feet. Made friends with the kid across
[13:36] Speaker 1: the street. They were immigrants, I know, I originally in
[13:42] Speaker 1: my recollection they were Lebanese. My father, after speaking to him,
[13:48] Speaker 1: said he thought that they were more from the African side,
[13:52] Speaker 1: North African somewhere, so still slightly within the area. But
[13:56] Speaker 1: I'll never forget. His friend's name was Eric. Eric came
[14:00] Speaker 1: over to play and we had bunk beds at the time,
[14:04] Speaker 1: and it just got an awesome Spider Man poster and
[14:08] Speaker 1: excited to put it on the wall. Came home and
[14:11] Speaker 1: Eric had gotten into I was on the top bunk,
[14:14] Speaker 1: older brother, I get to choose, you know. Eric decided
[14:18] Speaker 1: to climb up there and just literally squashed my Spider Man.
[14:23] Speaker 1: It is what it is. It was a poster. I
[14:25] Speaker 1: didn't really get too upset about it, but I remember
[14:28] Speaker 1: him going home that afternoon. My mom left for work
[14:34] Speaker 1: at that point in time. We get a knock on
[14:36] Speaker 1: the door not long after he went home, and my
[14:39] Speaker 1: dad was the only one here with me and my brother.
[14:42] Speaker 1: And my dad is not a very social guy. He
[14:45] Speaker 1: is a machine shop worker, typically third shift, so he
[14:50] Speaker 1: wouldn't go in until later that evening. Kind of out
[14:53] Speaker 1: of the blue, and it turned out to be Eric
[14:54] Speaker 1: and his family. They had came over from across the street.
[14:59] Speaker 1: They wanted to It was customed for them. They said
[15:02] Speaker 1: basically to just want to meet, you know, their son's
[15:05] Speaker 1: friend and his family. Very nice, you know, again, kind
[15:09] Speaker 1: of out of the ordinary for us though, something different.
[15:13] Speaker 1: Mostly working class families around the area seemed very nice
[15:17] Speaker 1: people though. And they came over and they were asking
[15:20] Speaker 1: about my brother. At that time, his legs were not
[15:24] Speaker 1: functioning obviously properly, but starting to decline. You know, he
[15:29] Speaker 1: was probably I was sent around that time. He was
[15:33] Speaker 1: seven at that time. They started to ask questions and
[15:37] Speaker 1: then it was it was brought up, which you can
[15:40] Speaker 1: tell my dad was slightly perturbed because he didn't know
[15:42] Speaker 1: how to handle the situation at that time. They asked
[15:45] Speaker 1: to pray over his legs, which also was you know,
[15:50] Speaker 1: coming from a family that has these issues that are
[15:54] Speaker 1: out of our control. I think my dad didn't really
[15:58] Speaker 1: know how to take it, and he was a little
[16:01] Speaker 1: perturbed with it. You start to get into the morality
[16:05] Speaker 1: of why us, you know, why my family, and I
[16:09] Speaker 1: think maybe that kind of latched onto my parents for
[16:13] Speaker 1: for a little bit of time, but he let it happen.
[16:16] Speaker 1: My brother very awkward, you know, he didn't know how
[16:19] Speaker 1: to take it either. I just kind of sat and
[16:22] Speaker 1: watched in amazement. We were slightly we We weren't really
[16:26] Speaker 1: church goers. We went to church occasionally, mainly with my
[16:29] Speaker 1: grandfather who was a prominent member at his church where
[16:33] Speaker 1: he lived. But nonetheless, and you know, it was part
[16:36] Speaker 1: of the experience, and it was it was a kind
[16:38] Speaker 1: gesture on the airport. I totally understand later that it
[16:43] Speaker 1: was probably later that it would definitely later that evening.
[16:47] Speaker 1: I remember waking up now, and it's not like all
[16:52] Speaker 1: of this happened. Nothing in my life that has happened
[16:56] Speaker 1: out of the ordinary or that was extraordinary happened consecutively.
[17:01] Speaker 1: This is all spread out through years of my life,
[17:04] Speaker 1: but it's still pretty wild. Nonetheless, I remember waking up
[17:10] Speaker 1: this it was autumn time around that time, because I
[17:13] Speaker 1: remember there were no or very little leaves on the
[17:16] Speaker 1: tree that set out front. My bunk bed was situated.
[17:21] Speaker 1: We've got two windows in our bedroom. My bunk bed
[17:24] Speaker 1: was situated on the window that set to the farthest
[17:28] Speaker 1: corner of the house, on the front of the house.
[17:31] Speaker 1: I was awoken by a light. I'm a very light sleeper.
[17:35] Speaker 1: Typically I would have to be the one to listen
[17:37] Speaker 1: for my brother if he needed help. That just trained
[17:39] Speaker 1: me to be a light sleeper. Lights. I remember seeing lights.
[17:45] Speaker 1: I got down, I looked out of the window and
[17:50] Speaker 1: across the street there was what I describe as a craft.
[17:57] Speaker 1: So the neighbor across the street where this family lived
[18:01] Speaker 1: had an old astro van, so it was a very
[18:03] Speaker 1: square bodied van. Two windows in the back, you know,
[18:08] Speaker 1: hinge doors, the double doors. The craft itself was pretty
[18:15] Speaker 1: dark in color. The only thing I could really make
[18:18] Speaker 1: out were the lights that were coming from the windows.
[18:22] Speaker 1: But this craft appeared to be almost like the classic
[18:26] Speaker 1: saucer shaped craft, and that there were lights that cut
[18:32] Speaker 1: There were there were three portions, a small portion on
[18:35] Speaker 1: the top, a small portion on the bottom, and a
[18:40] Speaker 1: larger football shaped portion in the middle. I would the windows.
[18:46] Speaker 1: Windows on the bottom, windows in the middle, two windows
[18:50] Speaker 1: on top, lights coming from very dim lights up top,
[18:56] Speaker 1: bright lights from the middle, bright lights from the bottom.
[19:00] Speaker 1: But again the craft itself was very dark. The light
[19:06] Speaker 1: was mainly coming from what I could see illuminated in
[19:10] Speaker 1: the ground, the porch, the van itself, and it was
[19:15] Speaker 1: probably it was above more above the van, but definitely
[19:21] Speaker 1: above the house, so it'd say probably twenty feet in
[19:24] Speaker 1: the air. It was probably the driveway, I would say
[19:28] Speaker 1: is probably eight foot wide, so I would estimate that
[19:31] Speaker 1: the craft itself was probably twenty foot wide. At that
[19:36] Speaker 1: time seeing it, I just remember kind of being frozen
[19:42] Speaker 1: because I got down out of my bunk and looked
[19:45] Speaker 1: out of that next window. I don't know if I
[19:47] Speaker 1: had said that or not, but I looked out of
[19:50] Speaker 1: the window next to it. There's two windows next to
[19:52] Speaker 1: each other, and I looked out of the window next
[19:54] Speaker 1: to where the bunk was located. If it just struck
[19:59] Speaker 1: me and there was no words, but I got an
[20:05] Speaker 1: overwhelming sense that it was okay and to lay back
[20:11] Speaker 1: down and go back to sleep again. No words were said,
[20:16] Speaker 1: only only the feeling that was instantaneous that it was okay.
[20:22] Speaker 1: For a long time, I wondered if this was a dream,
[20:28] Speaker 1: and I just had a very vivid dream and that
[20:31] Speaker 1: was it.
[20:32] Speaker 2: You know.
[20:32] Speaker 1: The next day I had brought it up to my mother.
[20:36] Speaker 1: See's classic, mom, it's just a dream, don't worry about it.
[20:40] Speaker 1: But it always stuck with me, and it's always came back,
[20:46] Speaker 1: you know, flared up from time to time. As I
[20:49] Speaker 1: get older, I just kind of stopped talking about it.
[20:54] Speaker 1: Later on in my life, I experienced some things though
[20:58] Speaker 1: that I now no longer think it was a dream.
[21:02] Speaker 1: I do believe it happened. I don't know why it happened,
[21:07] Speaker 1: but it happened. So Flashboard till later in life with
[21:13] Speaker 1: some other out of the ordinary things that occurred. My
[21:18] Speaker 1: daughter was My first daughter was born in twenty twelve.
[21:21] Speaker 1: Second daughter was born in twenty thirteen. I decided to
[21:25] Speaker 1: purchase a nice camera at that point in time, just
[21:29] Speaker 1: to take photos. I've always loved taking photos, even with
[21:32] Speaker 1: the old digital little digital cameras, but decided to buy
[21:36] Speaker 1: a nice Nikon D thirty two hundred. Camera came with
[21:40] Speaker 1: two lenses. It came with a close up lens that
[21:43] Speaker 1: I believe was fifty five I don't know exactly how
[21:47] Speaker 1: you rate those. I'm not a camera talk I don't
[21:50] Speaker 1: know how you say. I'm not an avid person that
[21:53] Speaker 1: takes pictures all the time and knows the ins and
[21:55] Speaker 1: outs of cameras. But I just know I like to
[21:58] Speaker 1: have something to snap pictures with and that the pictures
[22:01] Speaker 1: look good. So I had what I assume a fifty
[22:05] Speaker 1: five millimeter smaller lens, and then one that would zoom
[22:08] Speaker 1: up to two hundred millimeters and in this situation, we
[22:13] Speaker 1: were headed to the zoo. So we're gonna go to
[22:16] Speaker 1: the zoo, have a nice outing, take some pictures of
[22:19] Speaker 1: the kids, take some pictures of animals, just play around
[22:22] Speaker 1: and on the way. So we were going to the
[22:25] Speaker 1: Cincinnati Zoo. On the way, there's cemetery that you can
[22:30] Speaker 1: see from the highway. It's a pretty large cemetery, and honestly,
[22:35] Speaker 1: I don't know the name of it. I should do
[22:38] Speaker 1: more research and get the exact name, but I just thought,
[22:42] Speaker 1: as we're driving by, it would be fun to snap
[22:44] Speaker 1: some photos. So at this point in time, I snapped
[22:48] Speaker 1: some photos. I've got the larger lens on, just taking pictures.
[22:53] Speaker 1: You know, beautiful history there, probably, I mean definitely. The
[22:57] Speaker 1: gravestones and the works of art are phenomenal. I mean
[23:02] Speaker 1: it's history. You know, anything historic to me just resonates
[23:07] Speaker 1: with information of days past. So later on that evening
[23:12] Speaker 1: we go to the zoo. We have a wonderful day.
[23:14] Speaker 1: By the way, come home and I'm going through the
[23:16] Speaker 1: photos and I'm starting to zoom in and see exactly
[23:22] Speaker 1: the clarity I can get that far away because we
[23:25] Speaker 1: were we were pretty good distance off the road. I'm
[23:28] Speaker 1: compared to the hill side that I had taken this
[23:31] Speaker 1: this photo, these photos of zooming in to look at
[23:35] Speaker 1: some of the gravestones and things like that. There is
[23:38] Speaker 1: brush along the background, and within the brush there is
[23:46] Speaker 1: what looks to be this the top portion of a
[23:50] Speaker 1: of a face. But it's not. Nobody's there. It's not
[23:55] Speaker 1: like I took a picture of somebody standing in the cemetery.
[24:00] Speaker 1: The cemetery was empty when I took the photo. The
[24:03] Speaker 1: top portion of this face is see through, but you
[24:08] Speaker 1: can definitely make an outline of said face. The window
[24:12] Speaker 1: was down, definitely was not a reflection of anything. Yeah,
[24:17] Speaker 1: the windows, it's hard to get a good clear picture
[24:20] Speaker 1: with the windows up. I do pay attention to detail
[24:24] Speaker 1: when it things like that, but it just really struck me.
[24:27] Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is weird. And I was like,
[24:29] Speaker 1: maybe this is just me. Maybe this is just you know,
[24:33] Speaker 1: the way the brush is, the way it's settled. I've
[24:37] Speaker 1: showed multiple people since then, though, and multiple people feel
[24:42] Speaker 1: the same in that it looks like the upper portion
[24:45] Speaker 1: of a man's face. You can see a nose, you
[24:49] Speaker 1: can see a brow line, you can see ahead like
[24:52] Speaker 1: the beginning of the forehead, towards the back. Just really
[24:56] Speaker 1: kind of shocking. Caught me off guard with that one. Up.
[25:00] Speaker 1: Can't say I've ever taken a picture of anything else again,
[25:02] Speaker 1: and I wasn't good. I would say we were probably
[25:07] Speaker 1: half a mile off the road. It was on of
[25:12] Speaker 1: this hillside of these graves, so it was a good
[25:15] Speaker 1: amount of way, but enough to where it was a
[25:18] Speaker 1: clear day that you could see if people were walking
[25:22] Speaker 1: in the graveyard, and definitely nobody was there. I have
[25:26] Speaker 1: pictures after that because I did a quick burst, not
[25:30] Speaker 1: every picture, just the one picture basically hasn't And this
[25:34] Speaker 1: is before I got this on a deal. This would
[25:38] Speaker 1: probably have been twenty fourteen, but this is before AI
[25:43] Speaker 1: was in the cameras like they are now. This was
[25:46] Speaker 1: no filter, you know, there were no filters on this
[25:48] Speaker 1: camera or anything like that. It was just a quick burst,
[25:52] Speaker 1: you know, high aperture, snap, snap, snap, kind of shocking.
[25:58] Speaker 1: Fast forward to years after dreams I have. I've had
[26:04] Speaker 1: some strange dreams in my life. A few of them
[26:07] Speaker 1: stand out, but this one really stands out. So years past,
[26:13] Speaker 1: I'm no longer with the mother of my girls. I
[26:17] Speaker 1: am now in a new relationship. In this relationship, we
[26:24] Speaker 1: had a young child, a young boy, and then my
[26:29] Speaker 1: wife had her son from a previous relationship. He's older
[26:34] Speaker 1: in his teenage years. Me and his dad. At first
[26:38] Speaker 1: it was it was kind of rocky. I'm the type
[26:41] Speaker 1: that I want to involve. The bigger the family, the better.
[26:45] Speaker 1: I don't want to I'm not here to put anybody down.
[26:48] Speaker 1: Only here for love, you know, And if I can
[26:51] Speaker 1: include everybody in that, I'm going. I just want family
[26:55] Speaker 1: to be accepted and to be better for the kids, period.
[26:59] Speaker 1: Every Body all in for the same meaning. And we
[27:06] Speaker 1: got pretty close. We actually shared stories. He also had
[27:11] Speaker 1: a Darnelle was his name, that called him d. He
[27:15] Speaker 1: had an experience actually here in Fairborn now Fairborn obviously
[27:19] Speaker 1: right Pat you know, his father also worked at right Pad,
[27:24] Speaker 1: but he had an experience as a teenager with also
[27:28] Speaker 1: a craft or a sighting that he had in downtown Fairborn.
[27:34] Speaker 1: We exchanged those stories, and that's not a story I
[27:36] Speaker 1: tell everybody, but that's a story I felt inclined to
[27:40] Speaker 1: tell him. We had a lot of the same likes.
[27:43] Speaker 1: He's just older than I was, you know, But we
[27:46] Speaker 1: shared those stories. We ended up really d unfortunately got
[27:52] Speaker 1: to the point he had kidney disease, and his kidney
[27:56] Speaker 1: started to shut down health wise, he started to decline. Actually,
[28:00] Speaker 1: unfortunately he lost his legs due to some issues, and
[28:06] Speaker 1: it kind of went downhill from there. Now, this is where,
[28:11] Speaker 1: like even when I told him about my story of
[28:14] Speaker 1: my craft sighting, it was this is where everything really turned.
[28:19] Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that for sure happened, because this
[28:22] Speaker 1: happened as well. At this point in time, I'm working
[28:26] Speaker 1: second shift. My wife was working third shift. So she
[28:30] Speaker 1: comes home and she's upset and she's visibly shaken. I'm like,
[28:36] Speaker 1: I'd wake up out of bed. What's up, what's going on?
[28:39] Speaker 1: She tells me that they unfortunately found my step son's
[28:44] Speaker 1: father to see se had died in his sleep. The
[28:47] Speaker 1: crazy thing was is that that night I had two
[28:51] Speaker 1: dreams that involved him. One of them I don't believe
[28:55] Speaker 1: was a dream. One of them I believe was him
[28:58] Speaker 1: trying to contact me. Honestly. We lived in a small apartment,
[29:03] Speaker 1: two bedroom apartment town home. Honestly, we were upstairs. My
[29:07] Speaker 1: son is so small that my youngest son had a
[29:11] Speaker 1: bed next to our bed. You know, it was that
[29:13] Speaker 1: kind of situation. And in that first appearance or memory
[29:19] Speaker 1: or dream, whatever you want to call it. Dream like
[29:21] Speaker 1: state that I was in. I could see, but he
[29:26] Speaker 1: was all read. His entire body was red and d
[29:30] Speaker 1: Towards the end of his life he ended up in
[29:31] Speaker 1: a wheelchair, not very talkative, not the life of the
[29:35] Speaker 1: party like he had used to be. But in this dream,
[29:38] Speaker 1: he was back to his old old self, you know,
[29:41] Speaker 1: very de love to talk, very boisterous. You know, he
[29:45] Speaker 1: was all read and he was yelling to me, but
[29:48] Speaker 1: I couldn't tell what. And it was very quick. I mean,
[29:51] Speaker 1: it's not like it's a dream that lasted long. It was,
[29:53] Speaker 1: but that's what I remember. I kind of woke up
[29:56] Speaker 1: even when that happened, but kind of shook it off,
[29:59] Speaker 1: fell back sleep. And then the dream I had was
[30:03] Speaker 1: that there was a couch. It was like an apartment,
[30:07] Speaker 1: but not my apartment, and there was a couch and
[30:10] Speaker 1: there was a table, and it was kind of an
[30:12] Speaker 1: open concept to where it was a small kitchen that
[30:16] Speaker 1: transitioned into a living room, and there was a couch
[30:19] Speaker 1: in that living room, and I was sitting at the
[30:22] Speaker 1: kitchen table, and slowly people started to come in and
[30:28] Speaker 1: sit on the couch. In the dream, I kind of questioned,
[30:33] Speaker 1: it was, what's everybody doing here for? And there's people
[30:36] Speaker 1: I didn't know either, But the message they had was
[30:41] Speaker 1: that he was gone. He was in the hospital, and
[30:44] Speaker 1: he was gone, is what my dream said. Now, Granteddie
[30:48] Speaker 1: didn't go to the hospital, and unfortunately he passed. I
[30:51] Speaker 1: would rather pass away at home where he was comfortable
[30:54] Speaker 1: than to be in a hospital in that kind of
[30:58] Speaker 1: end of his life. We thoroughly, you know, enjoyed spending
[31:03] Speaker 1: time with him towards the end of his life. We
[31:05] Speaker 1: would go out as a family, We would go out
[31:08] Speaker 1: to eat, things like that. So for him to pass
[31:10] Speaker 1: away at home is probably the best case scenario when
[31:14] Speaker 1: it came down to it. But that's what this dream
[31:16] Speaker 1: told me, and I just kind of shook it off,
[31:20] Speaker 1: and then I fell back asleep. I woke up momentarily,
[31:23] Speaker 1: then fell back asleep again, and then only for you
[31:27] Speaker 1: know a little while later for my wife to come
[31:29] Speaker 1: in upset because of what had happened. And that really
[31:33] Speaker 1: just that hit me hard, you know, And by this
[31:37] Speaker 1: point in time in my life, I had lost my brother.
[31:40] Speaker 1: You know, my brother lived until he was twenty years old.
[31:44] Speaker 1: I was twenty three when he passed. We experiencing that changes,
[31:49] Speaker 1: especially somebody that grew up seeing the struggle of somebody
[31:54] Speaker 1: else that became immobile, that couldn't get around on their own,
[31:59] Speaker 1: And I mean the ins and outs of taking care
[32:01] Speaker 1: of somebody like that. That's always landed home with me.
[32:05] Speaker 1: That's why I'm I'm very forthgiving in my time when
[32:09] Speaker 1: it comes to help for people, and especially people that
[32:12] Speaker 1: have disabilities of any nature. I will bend over backwards,
[32:17] Speaker 1: you know, if if somebody needs help. And I felt
[32:20] Speaker 1: the same with d because nobody you never want to
[32:24] Speaker 1: see anybody go through that and to to have their
[32:26] Speaker 1: life in that way. But that dream right there really
[32:30] Speaker 1: kind of landed home that maybe there I already knew
[32:33] Speaker 1: there was a lot more to life just from those
[32:34] Speaker 1: past experiences, but that started to tie everything together.
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[33:25] Speaker 2: It's time.
[33:26] Speaker 1: It's the x x X and now here we are
[33:39] Speaker 1: and I'm still having dreams like that that will set
[33:44] Speaker 1: up essentially the next day, almost like pre cognitive dreams
[33:49] Speaker 1: that I will have conversations with people that rhyme with
[33:54] Speaker 1: the dream that I had. Things will pop up from
[33:58] Speaker 1: those dreams and they It might seem strange when I
[34:01] Speaker 1: have the dream, but once I have the conversation, it
[34:05] Speaker 1: seems all too legit, you know, especially with work and
[34:09] Speaker 1: there's only there's one other guy with me at work,
[34:11] Speaker 1: and it's usually I think we kind of sync up
[34:15] Speaker 1: over time, but it'll be things that he says that
[34:19] Speaker 1: just you know, I'm like, hey, I just I had
[34:22] Speaker 1: the dream last night, like this is deja vu. And
[34:24] Speaker 1: I'm also an experiencer of deja vu. I would say
[34:28] Speaker 1: often honestly, sometimes it's six months down the line that
[34:33] Speaker 1: I'll have just just flashback, I've done this, I've seen
[34:37] Speaker 1: this in a dream. It happened yesterday in a hallway.
[34:40] Speaker 1: So I work at school. We're dragging everything out of
[34:43] Speaker 1: the rooms right now to really do deep cleans on
[34:45] Speaker 1: these rooms to get it ready for the next school year,
[34:48] Speaker 1: and walking down the hallway, I seen everything out, I
[34:52] Speaker 1: seen the lights the way they were, and I instantly
[34:55] Speaker 1: remembered six months ago I had this exact same dream,
[34:58] Speaker 1: same hallway, doing the same same thing. But it's instantaneous.
[35:02] Speaker 1: It's not like there's anything behind it, but it's just
[35:04] Speaker 1: like an instantaneous I've been here, I've seen this. So
[35:09] Speaker 1: this leads into now my really our family's next experience,
[35:16] Speaker 1: because now it's transcended me and it's went to my
[35:19] Speaker 1: younger son. Even I had noticed that my younger son,
[35:24] Speaker 1: he's seven years old now, had been taking a towel
[35:29] Speaker 1: and covering up the air conditioning register in the restroom,
[35:34] Speaker 1: and one day I just kind of asked him and said, hey, buddy, like,
[35:37] Speaker 1: what's going on? Why are we Why do we keep
[35:39] Speaker 1: covering this up? You know, we need to let the
[35:42] Speaker 1: air flow through. That's how we cool down the house.
[35:45] Speaker 1: And if it, you know, you cover this up, the
[35:47] Speaker 1: moisture will build up. Down there and we don't want
[35:50] Speaker 1: to get mold in our air ducts. And he goes, well,
[35:55] Speaker 1: because I've seen somebody, kind of was kind of shaken.
[35:59] Speaker 1: I was like, okay, what do you mean you've seen somebody?
[36:02] Speaker 1: And he goes, I, well, I seen people in the house,
[36:07] Speaker 1: And I said, when was this? Now? He's a very
[36:09] Speaker 1: independent child. He doesn't mind to get up on his own,
[36:13] Speaker 1: go to the restroom if he needs to, and I
[36:14] Speaker 1: get some water if he needs to. Occasionally maybe sneak
[36:17] Speaker 1: a snack or two that he's not supposed to. Yeah,
[36:20] Speaker 1: he's a kid. I'm not gonna you know, I'm not
[36:23] Speaker 1: gonna get too upset about it. But also his mom
[36:26] Speaker 1: still works third shift. It's his brother and I to
[36:28] Speaker 1: live here as well with him. This is the same house,
[36:32] Speaker 1: by the way, to which I had the experience with
[36:35] Speaker 1: the craft across the street and that I grew up in.
[36:37] Speaker 1: So he says he's seen people, and I was like, well,
[36:42] Speaker 1: can you describe it to me? And he describes. He says,
[36:47] Speaker 1: three people came out of the restroom. He said they
[36:50] Speaker 1: all white. They were wearing all white. He said, they
[36:54] Speaker 1: look like us to me, that means like human. Three
[36:58] Speaker 1: people one of them has what he describes as a
[37:02] Speaker 1: sun hat on he said, a picnic hat, but we've
[37:06] Speaker 1: kind of determined that it's a sun we think a
[37:09] Speaker 1: sun hat. But he said, all white shoes, gloves, all
[37:14] Speaker 1: of that. I didn't really press deep into it. I
[37:18] Speaker 1: kind of just said, oh, well, that's that's interesting, that's
[37:21] Speaker 1: very interesting. It's okay, though there's nobody that's here that
[37:26] Speaker 1: we've seen that I've seen, and you know, I think
[37:29] Speaker 1: we're okay, but I could you stop covering up? It's great?
[37:33] Speaker 1: And he goes, okay, yeah, yeah, and he kind of
[37:35] Speaker 1: shakes it off. Now granted this has been a year ago,
[37:39] Speaker 1: so he was six at the time. Since then, occasionally
[37:43] Speaker 1: it gets brought up, and he's every time I and
[37:49] Speaker 1: not not a lot. I would say maybe a handful,
[37:52] Speaker 1: maybe four or five times. He gets very serious remembers this,
[37:58] Speaker 1: and it's he's a very happy child, a lot of energy,
[38:02] Speaker 1: you know, go go go, But when this occurs, he
[38:06] Speaker 1: gets very serious and he's still is covering that to
[38:09] Speaker 1: this day. He's still occasionally will cover up that register
[38:13] Speaker 1: and I just can't he won't can't break them with it.
[38:18] Speaker 1: He said that they were about as tall as the doorway.
[38:20] Speaker 1: Doorway's seven foot tall. He said that there. I asked
[38:25] Speaker 1: if they were boys or girls, and he said, well,
[38:28] Speaker 1: there's nothing there. He's like, I don't know, there's no
[38:32] Speaker 1: form to the body, slender body, you know, just all white,
[38:36] Speaker 1: white hands white. He the way he described it was
[38:40] Speaker 1: gloves and shoes. And then just recently it was brought
[38:46] Speaker 1: up again to which I had asked, you know, well,
[38:49] Speaker 1: how long how long were they here for? Because he
[38:52] Speaker 1: kind of acted like they were here for a little while,
[38:55] Speaker 1: and he said that they just walked out of the
[38:58] Speaker 1: restroom into the hall and stood there for what he
[39:03] Speaker 1: assumes was an hour. Now, with kids, I don't know,
[39:07] Speaker 1: you know, sometimes minutes seem like ours, so I don't
[39:12] Speaker 1: actually know a time. He just remembers staying up and
[39:17] Speaker 1: checking out the door to see if they went away,
[39:22] Speaker 1: and he said he looked a few times and he
[39:25] Speaker 1: didn't go to sleep until they were gone. And really,
[39:29] Speaker 1: since that time, he's he wants to sleep with his
[39:32] Speaker 1: door shut. Now he doesn't like to open his door.
[39:36] Speaker 1: So I really don't know where that goes. I know,
[39:41] Speaker 1: nowadays there's so much in the in everything, especially now
[39:47] Speaker 1: with disclosure and things of that nature, but it definitely
[39:52] Speaker 1: shook him, and whether it was a dream or not,
[39:55] Speaker 1: his consciousness is doing a lot like mine, I feel like,
[40:00] Speaker 1: and registering it as a real event that he experienced completely.
[40:07] Speaker 1: And that's the main bulk of my experiences and now
[40:13] Speaker 1: his experiences as well. You know, It's something that we
[40:16] Speaker 1: don't disdain from well, we also don't nurture necessarily. We
[40:21] Speaker 1: don't want to lean in it too deeply, but we
[40:24] Speaker 1: also don't want to discount it. With the world in
[40:27] Speaker 1: which we live now, with so much information and so
[40:30] Speaker 1: many things going on, I find it hard to completely
[40:33] Speaker 1: discount anything. But that is that is my full story
[40:39] Speaker 1: for the most part, and my full you know, array
[40:42] Speaker 1: of encounters that I've had over time.
[40:45] Speaker 3: I would say thank you for sharing all that, Nick, Gosh,
[40:48] Speaker 3: that is interesting.
[40:49] Speaker 1: It's a lot. I know. It's definitely odd, you know.
[40:54] Speaker 1: But at the same time, again, with all the information
[40:58] Speaker 1: that's out there now and and really just information compounding,
[41:02] Speaker 1: it seems you know, constantly people at work describe me
[41:06] Speaker 1: as a very I wouldn't say straight lace, I wouldn't
[41:10] Speaker 1: say serious person, but I'm always there to help, you know.
[41:13] Speaker 1: I work at elementary school. We have over a thousand
[41:18] Speaker 1: kids in our building. That's just second through fifth grade.
[41:21] Speaker 1: I one hundred adults in there as well on top
[41:24] Speaker 1: of that, so there's a lot of souls in one building.
[41:27] Speaker 1: And I'm a head custodian, so I'm there for any emergencies,
[41:31] Speaker 1: you know, any cleanup, taking care of building operations, you
[41:36] Speaker 1: name it. Everybody. I think I would say everybody likes me.
[41:39] Speaker 1: I help everybody out. I never say no for the
[41:42] Speaker 1: most part, but I think if people described me, they
[41:45] Speaker 1: would say, he's a everyday kind of guy that just
[41:50] Speaker 1: wants to do good for the world and to see
[41:53] Speaker 1: people prosper and to be as positive as possible. It's
[41:57] Speaker 1: the best way I can describe myself and what I
[41:59] Speaker 1: feel like. Others say as.
[42:00] Speaker 3: Well, you know, well you're Nick Freu and Freu there.
[42:04] Speaker 1: I try when I said that earlier, that I you know,
[42:07] Speaker 1: I live up to my name. That's it really doesn't
[42:10] Speaker 1: mean a lot to me to carry names such as that,
[42:13] Speaker 1: you know, and to make sure that it you know,
[42:15] Speaker 1: I do what it says.
[42:17] Speaker 3: And a thousand kids, you deserve a medal.
[42:20] Speaker 1: Oh it's wild. I wouldn't I love it though, you know,
[42:24] Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade it for the world. You know, I
[42:26] Speaker 1: know there's a million jobs out there that somebody can do,
[42:29] Speaker 1: and I know it doesn't pay the greatest. And actually
[42:32] Speaker 1: it's even farther away now. So we lived when I
[42:35] Speaker 1: started this job, I was close to twenty minutes away.
[42:39] Speaker 1: Now that unfortunately, my mother passed away during COVID That
[42:44] Speaker 1: was a whole situation within its own, but we had
[42:48] Speaker 1: moved back into the house that we've had in the
[42:51] Speaker 1: family ever since, you know her. Actually this house was
[42:57] Speaker 1: purchased by my grandfather's adopted mother. So this house, there's
[43:04] Speaker 1: been one family that's owned this house since it was
[43:06] Speaker 1: built in nineteen fifty six. You know, went from my
[43:11] Speaker 1: great grandmother to my grandfather's. Eventually my grandfather and grandmother
[43:18] Speaker 1: divorced and then you know, it just went from there.
[43:22] Speaker 1: My parents purchased it, and then after my mother passed away,
[43:25] Speaker 1: we moved in and we've had it ever since, for
[43:28] Speaker 1: probably the last four four and a half years. So
[43:32] Speaker 1: now I'm almost an hour away from work. I've had
[43:36] Speaker 1: other job offers at schools that are closer, but there's
[43:39] Speaker 1: something special about that school and about the community that's
[43:44] Speaker 1: there and behind that school, and I really I wouldn't
[43:47] Speaker 1: trade it for anything. You know that school gives me
[43:50] Speaker 1: meaning purpose, I would say, And it's a great workout too.
[43:56] Speaker 1: That many people in the constant go go go, you know,
[43:59] Speaker 1: you were always burning calories. So I look at it
[44:02] Speaker 1: as a win win.
[44:03] Speaker 3: If you love the place. It was a little bit
[44:05] Speaker 3: of distance. It's job satisfaction, isn't it.
[44:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, truly, truly in a world of today where you
[44:10] Speaker 1: see a lot of people that don't have that, it's
[44:14] Speaker 1: easy to be taught to be negative. I feel like
[44:17] Speaker 1: it's the easy route out is to gripe or mope
[44:21] Speaker 1: about something. But if you could be happy at your job,
[44:25] Speaker 1: And honestly, I learned that from my mom. You know
[44:27] Speaker 1: my mom. I grew up as a Toys r US
[44:29] Speaker 1: kid through and through. You know, here in America we
[44:32] Speaker 1: had toys r Us. I don't know if you guys
[44:33] Speaker 1: had that where you grew up. Toys r Us for
[44:36] Speaker 1: us was it was a large toy store, big box
[44:38] Speaker 1: toy store. And since my mom was a working working
[44:43] Speaker 1: class mom, you know, and didn't want us to be
[44:45] Speaker 1: here causing a ruckus while dad was asleep, you know,
[44:49] Speaker 1: I would go summers, we would go to work with mom,
[44:52] Speaker 1: So I played. I got to play all day, I
[44:55] Speaker 1: got to help out, I got to see the work
[44:57] Speaker 1: side of it. But I also got to see how
[45:00] Speaker 1: people were happy when they came in there, that the
[45:03] Speaker 1: workers were happy to make people happy. And that's something
[45:06] Speaker 1: that's always been passed down through my family. You know.
[45:08] Speaker 1: When my grandfather passed away, even he had the line
[45:13] Speaker 1: was probably two miles long at the viewing, but he
[45:16] Speaker 1: just enjoyed seeing people be happy and be positive. And
[45:21] Speaker 1: I think it's got to start somewhere, and it's good
[45:24] Speaker 1: that it starts with me. You know, kids get to
[45:26] Speaker 1: see that not everybody gets to have the high dollar jobs,
[45:31] Speaker 1: you know, things like that. These kids get to see
[45:34] Speaker 1: that I might just be a custodian and I might
[45:37] Speaker 1: just be cleaning up after everybody, but I've got a
[45:41] Speaker 1: smile on my face and that even in hard times,
[45:45] Speaker 1: you can still be positive and move forward. And it's
[45:48] Speaker 1: important to teach and start on the right foot versus nagnagnag.
[45:56] Speaker 3: You're right though, your kids will learn this surround you
[46:00] Speaker 3: see this, that's what it's all about. It's going to
[46:01] Speaker 3: start from somewhere.
[46:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree.
[46:04] Speaker 3: Well, you've had so many interesting encounters and you're very
[46:07] Speaker 3: down to work. That's what I love about this show.
[46:10] Speaker 1: I appreciate you letting me have this time to share
[46:14] Speaker 1: those experiences. Again. I believe that all information can you
[46:18] Speaker 1: could take something from it and you can learn from it.
[46:23] Speaker 1: And I think that's what we're doing now, you know,
[46:25] Speaker 1: I think that's today. Especially with this kind of this
[46:29] Speaker 1: magical element that you know is seems to be entangled
[46:34] Speaker 1: within reality, you really start to see it shine through.
[46:39] Speaker 1: And it means a lot to me to get to
[46:41] Speaker 1: actually get out and actually share my experiences to more
[46:46] Speaker 1: than just whether it's immediate family or very immediate It's
[46:50] Speaker 1: not like I go around telling everybody about these things,
[46:54] Speaker 1: but there are enough that it really has made a
[46:57] Speaker 1: profound effect on who I am. I am in the
[47:00] Speaker 1: decisions that I make in life and how I carry myself.
[47:04] Speaker 1: You know, all of that had to be into the mix.
[47:08] Speaker 1: You know, when you're making a cake or anything of
[47:11] Speaker 1: that nature, it takes multiple ingredients. You know, it's not
[47:14] Speaker 1: just an easy here it is here you go. You know,
[47:18] Speaker 1: it takes a little bit of magic and a little
[47:20] Speaker 1: bit of love in order to make these things, and
[47:24] Speaker 1: to make it, you know, experience something that is beautiful
[47:28] Speaker 1: and that tastes good in the end, you know, you've
[47:30] Speaker 1: got to have it all. I appreciate you for what
[47:33] Speaker 1: you do and letting me get to voice, you know,
[47:37] Speaker 1: my experiences and my thoughts as well.
[47:39] Speaker 3: I think it's great. For a start, we're hearing these
[47:41] Speaker 3: experiences that we may never never hear, you know, unless
[47:43] Speaker 3: you're in like maybe a family circle, you might hear
[47:45] Speaker 3: of them. But a lot of these accounts they go
[47:48] Speaker 3: on heard or chance for people to, you know, to
[47:51] Speaker 3: get these stories out there, especially if you had them
[47:53] Speaker 3: on your mind for years and you don't really you
[47:55] Speaker 3: don't have any answers, because it gets you off your
[47:58] Speaker 3: chest and in turn people you could have similar experiences
[48:02] Speaker 3: and also un answered questions.
[48:04] Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, to realize that we all can relate in
[48:07] Speaker 1: some way, shape or form. You know. I live I
[48:10] Speaker 1: live in an area in Dayton that is not it's
[48:13] Speaker 1: not the nicest area, you know, it's kind of it's
[48:16] Speaker 1: a very it's become a very low class, high crime
[48:21] Speaker 1: sort of area. Over time, I've watched it turn into this.
[48:25] Speaker 1: It's still a beautiful area. It's still a beautiful place.
[48:28] Speaker 1: Nothing that I'm afraid to necessarily walk around in but
[48:32] Speaker 1: I also know how to interact with people. But I
[48:35] Speaker 1: see so many people that just they have something that
[48:38] Speaker 1: they want to share, but they don't know how to
[48:41] Speaker 1: share it. They don't know how to relate, and you
[48:43] Speaker 1: see it get trapped and what it can do that
[48:46] Speaker 1: can build up. It's compounding information that can overload one system,
[48:52] Speaker 1: especially today with as much information that's out there, you know,
[48:55] Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, it's constantly being bombarded through social
[48:59] Speaker 1: media and things like that. To share these lessons though,
[49:03] Speaker 1: and these different things and experiences I think really does help,
[49:08] Speaker 1: you know, as a kid in high school, kind of
[49:10] Speaker 1: a sad note, we got to do one of the
[49:14] Speaker 1: It was the coolest thing for us, but it was
[49:16] Speaker 1: the tenth anniversary at that point in time of Theirwandan genocide,
[49:21] Speaker 1: so very sad thing. Hundreds of thousands of people unfortunately
[49:26] Speaker 1: lost their lives in this civil war that really goes
[49:32] Speaker 1: look quite literally tribal of two factions of people and on.
[49:38] Speaker 1: For the tenth anniversary, we as a school and it
[49:42] Speaker 1: was again a select few got to have conference satellite
[49:47] Speaker 1: conference calls. So they had a few schools throughout America
[49:50] Speaker 1: that were chosen. I went to an arts school here
[49:53] Speaker 1: in Dayton. I went to Stuivers and it's a school
[49:56] Speaker 1: for the arts that it's a what we consider a
[49:59] Speaker 1: magnet school. You have to be there for your artistic endeavor.
[50:04] Speaker 1: Mine was music, so I was there for music within
[50:09] Speaker 1: our science class. Actually, our science teacher put this together
[50:13] Speaker 1: to where she got us selected as one of those schools.
[50:15] Speaker 1: So we got to experience talking to kids in a
[50:19] Speaker 1: different continent, much like we're doing now. You know, the
[50:22] Speaker 1: magic of technology nowadays, it can be very wonderful, but
[50:26] Speaker 1: we got to hear their experiences because they were also
[50:29] Speaker 1: our age at that time, so when this happened, they
[50:33] Speaker 1: were you know, probably the ages ranged from twelve to eighteen,
[50:39] Speaker 1: so you're talking about people that were children that had
[50:43] Speaker 1: no sort of say in what happened and had to
[50:47] Speaker 1: see some of the most atrocious things and experience some
[50:52] Speaker 1: of the most heartbreaking things, and it really humbled us,
[50:56] Speaker 1: you know, as a school and as a group that
[50:59] Speaker 1: got to be a part of that. But it's good
[51:01] Speaker 1: to still pass along that information, to pass along those stories,
[51:05] Speaker 1: no matter how heartbreaking they may be, it's still something
[51:09] Speaker 1: that we can learn as a culture and really praise
[51:14] Speaker 1: up and we can be ready if something else does
[51:17] Speaker 1: want to say hello, we've got to be We're no
[51:21] Speaker 1: better as our weakest link. So we've got to grow
[51:24] Speaker 1: up as a culture and as a group of people.
[51:27] Speaker 1: You know, and I love this format for this too.
[51:31] Speaker 3: And what you're doing with your son, you know, you're
[51:34] Speaker 3: you're listening to him. You're not so much putting all
[51:36] Speaker 3: this stuff in front of him and say, hey was
[51:38] Speaker 3: it this? Was it that you're listening to him?
[51:40] Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, I think a lot of it's very
[51:43] Speaker 1: important that you listen, especially to your kids, because they're
[51:47] Speaker 1: absorbing the media that they they're into. They're seeing things
[51:52] Speaker 1: that we probably don't understand that we couldn't comprehend at
[51:55] Speaker 1: their age. They are to another level. But now even
[51:59] Speaker 1: the stuff that I think that we watched growing up
[52:03] Speaker 1: and now hearing and watching some of it come true,
[52:07] Speaker 1: Like you know it's talked about with your Star Trek
[52:10] Speaker 1: and things like that, and well look at where now
[52:13] Speaker 1: you know we have colms. It's right here in our poem.
[52:16] Speaker 1: We have scanners that can scan our body and tell
[52:19] Speaker 1: us what's wrong. There's little truths I feel like hidden
[52:22] Speaker 1: in everything. So if you listen enough, if you learn
[52:27] Speaker 1: to listen. You can hear those truths and you can
[52:32] Speaker 1: teach somebody how to absorb them properly. That's very important,
[52:36] Speaker 1: I think, especially for these kids.
[52:38] Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more. And when did that experience with
[52:41] Speaker 3: the people coming out of the restroom happen?
[52:44] Speaker 1: It was about a year ago, I would say. We've
[52:47] Speaker 1: probably it's been about four or five times that it's
[52:50] Speaker 1: been brought up, but it's been close to a year.
[52:52] Speaker 3: Ago, relatively recent. Yeah, and he's the kind of kid
[52:56] Speaker 3: that if it was to happen again or something similar,
[52:59] Speaker 3: you'd be the first one comes to.
[53:00] Speaker 1: I would like to think. So, yeah, I'm very open.
[53:04] Speaker 1: Like you said, it's very important that you can show
[53:07] Speaker 1: people you can listen. But he knows, he knows me.
[53:11] Speaker 1: I'm very keen to teach the kids what are like,
[53:15] Speaker 1: especially my kid, what's entertainment, what it means to be entertained,
[53:20] Speaker 1: and that not everything you see is exactly how it is.
[53:25] Speaker 1: But yeah, he would definitely come to me and ask
[53:29] Speaker 1: if if something you know, was up and he experienced something.
[53:32] Speaker 3: Again, if he does again or even mention something to
[53:36] Speaker 3: certainly do let us know that is interesting and do
[53:38] Speaker 3: you think it could be something that may be something
[53:40] Speaker 3: to do with the house.
[53:41] Speaker 1: You know, I wondered. I'm not really sure, to be honest,
[53:46] Speaker 1: you know, there is I've heard said that trauma can
[53:51] Speaker 1: tend to flare up certain events and things like that.
[53:57] Speaker 1: I know, there's so much speculation out there about what
[54:00] Speaker 1: this sort of phenomenon is, where it originates from. I
[54:05] Speaker 1: know Dayton has been a place that has been rooted
[54:10] Speaker 1: in that phenomenon, going back to Roswell. I think that
[54:14] Speaker 1: even has to do with some of the development that
[54:17] Speaker 1: happened in Dayton back then. Dayton had a very integral
[54:23] Speaker 1: part in the bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima in Nagasaki.
[54:30] Speaker 1: The Dayton Project was a huge part of that development,
[54:34] Speaker 1: and they were doing some experiments right before Roswell, before
[54:40] Speaker 1: allegedly the crafts were brought to Dayton, to right Patterson
[54:45] Speaker 1: right Field at that time. And I kind of wonder
[54:47] Speaker 1: if maybe that some areas I feel like are charged
[54:51] Speaker 1: with energy, with certain types of energy, and maybe that's
[54:55] Speaker 1: to do with how history has affected time and the
[55:00] Speaker 1: ripple and the waves that it causes. You know, maybe
[55:03] Speaker 1: it has something to do with the house. Maybe it
[55:05] Speaker 1: has something to do with with the nature you know,
[55:10] Speaker 1: of people. Trauma though, again is something that this house
[55:15] Speaker 1: has unfortunately been a part of. But even through that
[55:18] Speaker 1: trauma to try to have the best. Again, I'm a
[55:21] Speaker 1: very positive person. I try to always look at everything,
[55:25] Speaker 1: each side of the light, each side of the shadow,
[55:27] Speaker 1: but try to take the best that I can out
[55:30] Speaker 1: of what happens, you know, And maybe it has to
[55:33] Speaker 1: do with that. Yeah, I don't really know, honestly, though
[55:37] Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever will. I think life
[55:39] Speaker 1: is much more complicated than we tend to think that
[55:44] Speaker 1: it is, that that we might just know the tip
[55:47] Speaker 1: of the iceberg, you know, when it really comes down
[55:49] Speaker 1: to it, and in the vastness of the universe and
[55:54] Speaker 1: of space, who really knows. I don't think anybody will,
[55:58] Speaker 1: not one person will ever know exactly, you know. Hopefully
[56:01] Speaker 1: we get closer to knowing a little bit more, to
[56:04] Speaker 1: making it understand, you know, making us understand a little more.
[56:08] Speaker 1: But only time will tell that, I guess, honestly.
[56:11] Speaker 3: Any time a tell Yeah, literally the tip to the iceberg.
[56:15] Speaker 1: Isn't it? What we know? Yeah?
[56:17] Speaker 3: The world and life and universe is certainly quite complex.
[56:21] Speaker 1: Very complex.
[56:22] Speaker 3: You are so close to, right, Patterson, Yeah.
[56:25] Speaker 1: Very close, very very close. Yeah, it's it's maybe fifteen
[56:28] Speaker 1: twenty minutes away from the house. Spent a lot of
[56:31] Speaker 1: time as a kid getting to go to the museum,
[56:34] Speaker 1: the Air Force Museum they have over there, watched it
[56:37] Speaker 1: really blow up from you know, one building to multiple hangars.
[56:42] Speaker 1: The history that's packed into just that alone is amazing.
[56:48] Speaker 1: You could spend all day there easily, totally easily. And
[56:51] Speaker 1: you can see though. That's what I really love about
[56:54] Speaker 1: this town. My favorite part. There's times where I just
[56:59] Speaker 1: need to clear my head. And there's a spot I
[57:02] Speaker 1: like to go to in Dayton that sits at the
[57:06] Speaker 1: top of a hill on on our east side of Dayton,
[57:09] Speaker 1: and it's named Kittie Hawk. And when you see it
[57:13] Speaker 1: and you see the downtown Dayton from that perspective, you
[57:17] Speaker 1: really see what the Wright brothers saw as well, because
[57:23] Speaker 1: they were they kind of the west side of town,
[57:26] Speaker 1: not far from me as well, is where they had
[57:28] Speaker 1: their bike shops. That's where they developed flight. You see
[57:32] Speaker 1: what they were thinking from the vantage points that they
[57:36] Speaker 1: they had here in Dayton, in the Miami Valley, you know,
[57:40] Speaker 1: And it might be it might be that, and I
[57:43] Speaker 1: don't know, not a ton of people talk about you know,
[57:46] Speaker 1: we're coming from a generation that that our our parents'
[57:51] Speaker 1: generation was just maybe don't speak about it, you know,
[57:55] Speaker 1: let's let's keep it quiet, like we don't want people
[57:58] Speaker 1: to think we're creaty or anything like that. Now those
[58:03] Speaker 1: floodgates are literally open. And now that we hear that,
[58:06] Speaker 1: it's not so crazy that a multitude of people have
[58:10] Speaker 1: had these sorts of experiences. You hear all kinds of
[58:14] Speaker 1: crazy stories that wrap around Dayton with history, with people
[58:20] Speaker 1: with influences. The Bosnia Piece Accords went on here, I
[58:25] Speaker 1: mean that brought in that really changed a part of
[58:28] Speaker 1: the world. You know, for a while, it's a very
[58:31] Speaker 1: magical space in place, and it's just it. I've got
[58:36] Speaker 1: it all right here, right in this.
[58:37] Speaker 3: Gym, no one do you love living there? So there
[58:42] Speaker 3: was so much history in that area, just that area alone,
[58:46] Speaker 3: not just in in UFOs and Project Blue Book and
[58:49] Speaker 3: all that.
[58:49] Speaker 1: But yeah, when I seen your post, literally a week
[58:54] Speaker 1: before that, you know, I just started to open up
[58:56] Speaker 1: to some people about this at at my school. A
[59:00] Speaker 1: week before I seen that post, I had thought, you know,
[59:03] Speaker 1: if I can talk to somebody about it. Time ever
[59:07] Speaker 1: occurred and something ever was thrown out there that I
[59:11] Speaker 1: totally would talk about it to somebody, and I happen
[59:14] Speaker 1: to see that post. It popped up as a random
[59:17] Speaker 1: thing in my ex which again I do not get
[59:20] Speaker 1: on often, and I happened to reply what I replied.
[59:23] Speaker 3: This show, I mean, has been going for seven odd
[59:24] Speaker 3: years now, and it's just like this. It's just normal
[59:27] Speaker 3: people coming on sharing experiences.
[59:29] Speaker 1: See, that's amazing, and it's such a nice place to
[59:32] Speaker 1: have that outlet. I greatly appreciate. Again, it's wonderful to
[59:35] Speaker 1: meet another Nick as interesting as you are. I love
[59:40] Speaker 1: hearing about your history as well. I mean, if you
[59:43] Speaker 1: ever want to talk, you know how to get a
[59:45] Speaker 1: hold of me.
[59:46] Speaker 3: Indeed it will. And same goes for you. Thank you, Nick,
[59:49] Speaker 3: I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.
[59:52] Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate you too.
[59:54] Speaker 3: It has been wonderful to me a fellow Nick as well.
[59:57] Speaker 3: Yes exactly. You take care of yourself, okay, and keep
[1:00:03] Speaker 3: in contact and we will speak soon.
[1:00:05] Speaker 1: Okay, sounds great. I will talk to you later.
[1:00:07] Speaker 3: Okay, take care of yourself.
[1:00:09] Speaker 1: Bye for now, you too, Aye. Bye.
[1:00:11] Speaker 3: Well, that is all for this episode. Keep updated and
[1:00:14] Speaker 3: connected with a show. On x, Facebook, and Instagram. And
[1:00:17] Speaker 3: if you have an encounter that you'd like to share
[1:00:19] Speaker 3: on the podcast, you can email me at UFO Chronicles
[1:00:23] Speaker 3: at gmail dot com, or you can reach out to
[1:00:26] Speaker 3: me via the contact page on my website UFO Chronicles
[1:00:31] Speaker 3: podcast dot com. A big thank you to Nick for
[1:00:34] Speaker 3: sharing tonight, and as always, thank you all for listening.
[1:00:38] Speaker 3: I will be back next week. Till then, stay safe
[1:00:41] Speaker 3: and keep watching the skies. Goodbye to

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