# Making It

A podcast by EnterpriseAM. Six days a week, we help top executives make sense of the Arab world’s companies and economies — and every Thursday, our editor-in-chief, Patrick, talks shop with the people who run them. Making It is an hour where the founders, CEOs, investors, and policymakers making the biggest decisions in our region show their work and talk about what’s next. From EnterpriseAM, the Arab world’s business daily.

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## Latest episodes

- [The road to an IPO with BdC’s Hussein Abaza](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/427a2653b2f1) (2026-10-22, 57 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/b1548211-4098-44b4-b6d4-b4ea00d9d6ff/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f
- [A different kind of stamina: AI and law with Lamyaa Gadelhak](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/08b103fa9180) (2026-10-15, 56 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/2842392d-7898-4520-9c30-b4e400835150/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f
- [On IPOs and the “Egypt discount”, with MNT-Halan’s Mounir Nakhla](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/262abbcc1e59) (2026-10-08, 50 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/57548986-8a60-4dd2-8b19-b4dc00fbc330/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f
- [The future of engineering in the age of AI with Youssef Rizk](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/f7909f43140d) (2026-10-01, 65 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/31903158-5bc3-4491-a67f-b4d60055a252/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f
- [Inside the NBFI firestorm with Hazem Moussa](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/78ce09c3a8bc) (2026-09-24, 47 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/e26d1c43-9905-42bf-93a7-b4ce010ff52e/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f
- [Cairo Food Week’s Hoda El-Sherif on stories, flavors, and community](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/fffc460ecb13) (2026-09-17, 54 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/5bbe3b53-1f5c-4328-af65-b4c7008aaf4d/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f
- [The mechanics of retail with Baraka’s Ahmed Ragab](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/a2030de748d7) (2026-09-10, 49 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/80f92110-b576-42ea-a2f8-b4bf00cd3df8/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f
- [Why Rep. Neveen El Tahri is optimistic](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/34dc9afd194c) (2026-09-03, 69 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/8f2b2743-a934-4e1b-bd9f-b4b800c4cd2d/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f
- [The Chinese takeover with Ankush Arora](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/824a2ca9cf29) (2026-08-27, 50 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/8ba93df9-76f1-451f-aff2-b4b00075c6f7/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f
- [Decoding AI with Tarek Assaad](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/648ebfa54384) (2026-08-20, 50 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/39549e10-65e4-4624-b1a7-b4ab00cd1f43/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f
- [Making It: A preview](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/101b26067dfa) (2026-08-13, 3 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/67c8e9a6-dde0-4a3f-99d5-b4a400aea6b6/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f
- [A note from Patrick](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/aa99116f1a61) (2025-11-04, 11 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/f89bb3af-28fd-466e-a45f-b38b009fd2e9/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f
- [Special: Doing it differently | Marakez Exec Vice Chairman Dasha Badrawi](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/584309c2976c) (2025-07-14, 65 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/0173e045-cb30-47d0-a7fa-b3190077eac2/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f
- [Special: Building an innovative bank — and how to lead it — with Mashreq Group CEO Ahmed Abdelaal](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/46f17ed636a5) (2025-03-02, 43 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/df2f86c4-035e-4063-a268-b29400f9c16a/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f
- [How to fundraise with Actis Partner Hossam Abou Moussa](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/544f14b7d429) (2020-12-02, 41 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/2c817252-3fb6-4e29-93a2-ac8500a27895/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1606911082
- [Growing a diagnostics powerhouse with Integrated Diagnostics Holding CEO Hend El Sherbini](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/15e3977ac3ec) (2020-11-18, 43 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/8165a6cd-9348-4bc7-ae8f-ac7700b49b51/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1605704429
- [Playing moneyball with Arqam FC CEO Ali ElFakharany](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/ba641924fe0d) (2020-11-11, 42 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/b16a46ad-7a35-41ec-9c45-ac7000f07f17/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1605107819
- [Transforming security with MagicCube co-founders Hisham Shawki and Nancy Zayed](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/32901233969a) (2020-11-04, 43 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/d4f052d6-c893-489d-a751-ac6900c229cc/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1604494841
- [Debating bricks or clicks with Majid Al Futtaim Properties CEO Ahmed Galal Ismail](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/fe5c9ede06ad) (2020-10-28, 43 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/6616c38a-0ecd-4237-a869-ac62009ce55b/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1603887546
- [Building a “people” business with Dr. Bahaa Alieldean, of the Alieldean Weshahi & Partners law firm](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/53540cf8f320) (2020-10-21, 44 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/394a0b92-c601-44b8-90fc-ac5b0087a391/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1603803979
- [Kickstarting an industry with Fawry CEO Ashraf Sabry](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/456f4505ea10) (2020-10-14, 43 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/6861319d-c95c-4906-9d87-ac54009514c8/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1602677208
- [Breaking baladi bread with Zooba CEO Chris Khalifa](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/0c4494b7968f) (2020-10-07, 45 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/5710ab89-5c6f-4632-b427-ac4c0089dc37/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1602075215
- [A peek behind the curtain: How Trella is bringing supply chains into the digital age](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/7d7fb97fc1e1) (2020-06-24, 43 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/75044cbe-e98f-4331-a864-abe400e8b20c/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1593160741
- [Triple Digit Growth: How SAP created a digital safety net for businesses](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/6abe9a45ed89) (2020-06-10, 38 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/8d084da7-b656-40b5-a171-abd600cac19f/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1591811143
- [Investing in digital disruption: How Algebra Ventures became synonymous with tech startups](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/61be7ea7e0c5) (2020-06-03, 41 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/c5e63cc5-e294-4964-9c92-abcf00ebdd51/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1591194161
- [Where preparation meets opportunity: How TPay Mobile put Egypt on the Fintech map](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/418800b8b4a3) (2020-05-13, 31 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/ef02f46e-5a0b-4cbe-845f-abba009f814f/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1589368226
- [Amro Abouesh, CEO and Managing Director of Tanmeyah](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/ea6beaf2d390) (2020-05-06, 39 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/5e5e69f7-1a49-4e92-8acc-abb300948bda/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1589206018
- [Surviving the end of a trend: going beyond cupcakes with NOLA](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/5d4a1b6e1d10) (2020-04-29, 39 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/59bf3cda-3ff8-48f9-8819-abab01392db0/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1588123231
- [We don't need no education...in the classroom](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/43c0f64b0f57) (2020-04-22, 48 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/20199159-8e65-4651-b2d0-aba5016325b9/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1587591541
- [Bringing art to the masses: How TAM is trying to democratize the art scene](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/66a7551f72ae) (2020-01-23, 30 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/6dcca7e7-9788-4b01-9c94-ab4a010f178f/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1579768918
- [Eat your heart out, Willy Wonka: How Edita beat out global household names to become the leading snack food producer in Egypt](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/2ace3e0ac95d) (2020-01-16, 37 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/2b9670b6-2573-4cd8-a522-ab4301151a2e/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1579166748
- [Meet Sarwa Capital: the 20-year-old startup quietly building the infrastructure of consumer finance](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/fb6a7290009f) (2019-12-19, 33 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/1b0afbe6-994e-4041-b935-ab2700f33ef0/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1576741288
- [One ring to rule them all: How the Azza Fahmy brand became a precious heirloom that was nourished into a global luxury powerhouse](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/48a7db2d9da8) (2019-12-12, 30 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/de9c5899-72e7-439e-80c5-ab2000d29d8a/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1576136954
- [The team player: How Karim Awad has grown EFG Hermes from a regional giant into a global player](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/8038418335db) (2019-12-05, 35 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/9fb3118e-9fb7-43c3-9c3a-ab1a0091b5e5/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1575537096
- [Mr and Mrs Claus: The couple behind the killer concierge app Elves](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/e23ad8826d4e) (2019-11-28, 30 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/30832522-cea0-45bd-b040-ab120101a7d6/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1574930227
- [Back from the brink: How Gourmet Egypt survived the float of the EGP](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487974619/b59a226590b8) (2019-11-21, 27 min): audio https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/5a56d7c3-f281-4557-8e31-aac8017ccf06/e7f15ef0-c09f-41b6-bd38-ab0500c045ef/8067257d-bbaf-44b3-8c0a-ab0c00dcf4ac/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=697481d2-88df-4eb3-bf72-ab0500c29e9f&t=1574870858

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