# Reading the Tea Leaves: What the World's Top AI Researchers Are Really Working On

An episode of [The Data Exchange with Ben Lorica](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487704458), 30 Apr 2026, 57 min.

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Ben Lorica talks with Nick Vasiloglou, VP of Research at Relational AI, about Nick’s deep dive into NeurIPS 2025 and what people in industry should actually pay attention to. Subscribe to the Gradient Flow Newsletter 📩 https://gradientflow.substack.com/ Subscribe: Apple · Spotify · Overcast · Pocket Casts · AntennaPod · Podcast Addict · Amazon · RSS. Detailed show notes - with links to many references - can be found on The Data Exchange web site.

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