# “I will never judge you”: A grandmother’s promise

An episode of [The Slow Newscast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1487320403), 8 Sep 2026, 48 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/acast/s/the-tortoise-podcast/e/6a9eca28d024784c99724d1f/media.mp3

Ten years ago Kim Edwards and her boyfriend, Lucas Markham, who were both 14 at the time, stabbed Kim’s mother and Kim’s younger sister to death. They were both sentenced to life in prison and became the youngest, and among the most notorious, double murderers in Britain. For the first time Kim’s grandmother, Maxine Follows, tells her side of the story, and questions how the criminal justice system treats children. Reporter: Katie Glass Producer: Ada Barume Sound Design: Dominic Delargy Artwork: Lucy Stevenson Executive Producer: Matt Russell Editor: Jasper Corbett Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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