# The Phillies Part Ways with Rob Thomson & Taking Control of the Mets

An episode of [Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1486883874), 28 Apr 2026, 1 h 00 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/6818a1a4eb737caf8ca41879/e/69f11a0fad6895d57a4d4410/media.mp3

Eno, Britt, and DVR are back and fired up as the trio breaks down the Phillies’ decision to fire manager Rob Thomson, what led to the move, and how Dave Dombrowski’s club can get back on track — including whether brighter days are ahead for Jesús Luzardo. From there, they shift to the Mets’ ongoing struggles, exploring what needs to change before things spiral further, and wrap on a high note with the debut of Guardians top prospect Travis Bazzana. Rundown: 2:55 Phillies Fire Rob Thomson 4:20 Slow Starting Bats 11:35 Limited Options for Position Players 17:00 Remember the 2019 Nats? 20:52 Faith in the Rotation 26:06 How to Fix the Mets 36:25 More Concerned About Hitting or Pitching? 48:30 Guardians Call Up Travis Bazzana 53:40 Eno’s Hot Take in Cleveland 55:55 Alex Cora to Mets or Phillies? Follow DVR on Bluesky: @DVR.bsky.social Follow Eno on Bluesky: @enosarris.bsky.social Follow Britt on Bluesky: @brittghiroli.bsky.social e-mail: ratesandbarrels@gmail.com Join our Discord: https://discord.gg/FyBa9f3wFe Subscribe to The Athletic: theathletic.com/ratesandbarrels Hosts: Derek VanRiper & Eno Sarris With: Britt Ghiroli Editor: Jason Potere Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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