# 10 – Why Populists Love Dead Soldiers and Hate Live Officers

An episode of [The International Security Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1484996253), 29 Apr 2026, 40 min.

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Guests: Ron Krebs is Distinguished McKnight University Professor and Professor of Political Science at the University of Minnesota. International Security Article: Ronald R. Krebs, “Why Populists Love Dead Soldiers and Hate Live Officers,” International Security, Vol. 50, No. 3 (Winter 2025/26), pp. 7–54, https://doi.org/10.1162/ISEC.a.397. Originally released on April 29, 2026

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