# In Conversation with Michael Gove

An episode of [Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1484110214), 13 Nov 2024, 48 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/NSR8936875764.mp3?updated=1731583742

Michael Gove spent more than a decade as a senior government minister, including as secretary of state for education, justice and levelling up. He was one of the longest-serving ministers of the last government – and one with perhaps the most ambitious plans for public service reform. He was also, arguably, the most successful at making those plans happen. To look back on his time in government, the reforms he introduced or tried to introduced, and to share his lessons for the current government and Conservative opposition, thew newly-appointed Spectator editor took part in wide-ranging and thought-provoking in conversation event with IfG Director Hannah White. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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