# In conversation with John Swinney MSP, First Minister of Scotland

An episode of [Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1484110214), 21 Nov 2025, 1 h 04 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/NSR4843133306.mp3

Scotland is just six months away from May’s crucial parliamentary election, with First Minister John Swinney preparing to lead the SNP into one of the most unpredictable campaigns since the party entered government almost 19 years ago. On 19 November, the Institute for Government was delighted to welcome Scotland’s First Minister to discuss his priorities ahead of the 2026 Scottish parliament election, the political context in Scotland ahead of the crucial UK budget, and the SNP’s vision for Scotland’s constitutional future. John Swinney was in conversation with Jill Rutter, Senior Fellow at the Institute for Government, followed by a Q&A with the live and online audience. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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