# Will Rachel Reeves and Darren Jones’ sums add up?

An episode of [Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1484110214), 21 Mar 2025, 45 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/NSR4505825248.mp3?updated=1742553884

With Rachel Reeves just days away from setting out her spring statement to parliament, chief secretary to the Treasury Darren Jones MP drops into the podcast studio to discuss the Treasury’s new plans for watching the pennies. So what could the chancellor do? What shouldn’t the chancellor do? The podcast team weigh up her options - and analyse the government’s controversial welfare reforms. Plus: IfG senior fellow and public policy expert Nick Timmins gives his expert take on the big decision to abolish NHS England. Presented by Emma Norris. With Cath Haddon and Tom Pope. Produced by Candice McKenzie. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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