# AI attention span so good it shouldn’t be legal

An episode of [The Stack Overflow Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1483510527), 6 Feb 2026, 30 min.

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We have another two-for-one special this week, with two more interviews from the floor of re:Invent. First, Ryan welcomes Pathway CEO Zuzanna Stamirowska and CCO Victor Szczerba to dive into their development of Baby Dragon Hatchling, the first post-transformer frontier model, from how continual learning and memory will transform AI to the real-world use cases for longer LLM attention span. In the second part of this episode, Ryan is joined by Rowan McNamee, co-founder and COO of Mary Technology, to discuss bringing AI into the carefully governed world of litigation and how LLMs are helping lawyers manage and interpret the vast amounts of legal evidence that pass across their desks every day. Episode notes: Pathway is building the first post-transformer frontier model that solves for attention span and continual learning. Mary Technology is an AI for attorneys that turns evidentiary documents into structured, easy-to-review facts. Connect with Zuzanna on LinkedIn and Twitter. Reach out to Victor at his email: victor@pathway.com Connect with Rowan on LinkedIn. We want to know what you're using to upskill and learn in the age of AI. Take this five minute survey on learning and AI to have your voice heard in our next Stack Overflow Knows Pulse Survey. TRANSCRIPT See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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