# Your tokenmaxxing is not valuemaxxing

An episode of [The Stack Overflow Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1483510527), 11 Aug 2026, 30 min.

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Ryan is joined by Coder’s Rob Whiteley to chat about why tokenmaxxing isn’t proving real value and just triggering Goodhart’s Law, how release speed and PR merges can help you measure agentic outcomes with or without a human-in-the-loop, and what the democratization of skills means for junior developers and the talent pipeline. Episode notes: Coder is a self-hosted platform that lets you securely run cloud development environments and AI coding agents on your own internal infrastructure. Connect with Rob on LinkedIn. Today’s shoutout goes to an Unsung Hero badge winner, user Red.Wave! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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