# Spy vs spy at scale

An episode of [The Stack Overflow Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1483510527), 27 Jan 2026, 36 min.

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Ryan welcomes Anthony Vinci, former senior intelligence officer and author of The Fourth Intelligence Revolution, to explore AI’s evolving role in intelligence in places like translation and image analysis, the challenges of evolving modern tech into government infrastructure, and the importance of democratized intelligence so citizens can keep themselves and loved ones safe. Episode notes: The Fourth Intelligence Revolution details how espionage practices are being transformed by a new global intelligence conflict, driven by AI and competition with China, and what everyday citizens can do to defend their privacy. Learn more at Anthony’s website. Connect with Anthony on Linkedin, Twitter, and Substack. Populist badge winner Orez gets today’s shoutout for their answer to Break or exit out of "with" statement?. TRANSCRIPT See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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