# #289 Magic and Mountains — Martin and Vinnie Attariani Part 1

An episode of [Dental Leaders Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1482901418), 30 Apr 2025, 2 h 02 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/f47b45cc/podcast/play/101418868/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-3-17%2Fda00ba79-e7af-41ca-2d30-833fe6e91124.mp3

In this deeply personal first part of a two-part interview, Payman Langroudi sits down with the dental power couple Martin and Vinnie Attariani. They share their remarkable journey to the UK - Martin's harrowing escape from Iran as a 14-year-old refugee to Sweden, and Vinnie's move from Canada to the UK through an arranged marriage at 17. The conversation explores their paths into dentistry, their approach to clinical excellence, and their philosophy about practice ownership. With candid reflections on mistakes, patient management, and work-life balance, the Attarianis offer invaluable insights into what makes a fulfilling career in dentistry while maintaining perspective on what truly matters in life. In This Episode 00:01:55 - Meeting and getting together 00:05:40 - Martin's escape from Iran 00:25:25 - First reunion with family 00:31:40 - Vinnie's journey from Canada 00:43:35 - Balancing education and motherhood 00:51:45 - Swedish dental education 01:03:55 - Digital dentistry and scanning 01:11:35 - Blackbox thinking: Clinical errors 01:17:15 - Fitness to practice investigation 01:22:40 - Managing cosmetic patient expectations 01:31:25 - Partnership practice model 01:39:00 - Mental health in dentistry 01:51:40 - Fantasy dinner party 01:54:35 - Last days and legacy About Martin and Vinnie Attariani Martin Attariani fled Iran as a teenage refugee before qualifying as a dentist in Sweden, where he also holds a master's in biochemistry. Now practising in the UK for 17 years, he operates a beautifully refurbished listed building practice where he excels in complex dentistry, including implants, endodontics, and orthodontics. Vinnie Attariani, originally from Canada, moved to the UK through an arranged marriage at 17, qualifying in dentistry from Birmingham in 2000 while raising two sons during her undergraduate years. She practices in a partnership at Houston Place, one of the UK's oldest dental practices, established in the 1840s.

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