# #169- Occlusion and Other ‘A-Has’ Part 2 - Sam Jethwa

An episode of [Dental Leaders Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1482901418), 11 Jan 2023, 49 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/f47b45cc/podcast/play/85015367/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-3-5%2F373328678-48000-2-8124f2929495b053.mp3

In part two of Payman’s chat with Sam Jethwa, Sam discusses how working alongside a clinical psychotherapist has transformed his black-box thinking. He reveals why he chose to practice in Marlowe over London and lets us in on plans for his upcoming BACD presidency. Enjoy! In This Episode 02.49 - Marketing and profile building 07.55 - Blackbox thinking and clinical psychotherapy 26.20 - Marlowe 30.50 - BACD presidency 34.07 - Last days and legacy 39.14 - Fantasy dinner party 43.51 - Fantasy podcast guest About Sam Jethwa Following completion of a postgraduate diploma in clinical education with the Royal College of Surgeons and Physicians of Glasgow, Dr Sam Jethwa has carved a career as an engaging speaker and educator on smile design, occlusion and functional success. He is a board member and vice president of the BACD

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