# Examining the Outcomes of COP 28: A Conversation with Amy Harder

An episode of [Environmental Insights: Conversations on policy and practice from the Harvard Environmental Economics Program](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1482761966), 19 Dec 2023, 30 min.

Audio: https://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1694363196-environmentalinsights-examining-the-outcomes-of-cop-28-a-conversation-with-amy-harder.mp3

Amy Harder, the founding Executive Editor of the climate policy publication Cipher News, expressed her surprise with several positive outcomes from the recent 28th Conference of the Parties of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (COP 28) in Dubai during a special episode of “Environmental Insights: Discussions on Policy and Practice from the Harvard Environmental Economics Program.” The podcast is produced by the Harvard Environmental Economics Program. Read a transcript of the podcast: https://www.belfercenter.org/sites/default/files/files/publication/amy-harder-podcast-transcript.pdf

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