# The Points Guy: Airlines Make More Money Selling Miles Than Flying Planes

An episode of [Morning Brew Daily](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1480059697), 2 Jul 2026, 35 min.

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#880: Neal and Toby chat with The Points Guy (real name: Brian Kelly) about the latest trends in travel, points, and the airline industry. We learn about how Brian created The Points Guy and what he’s learned over the years, and why travel points aren’t dying – they’re evolving. Then why Spirit Airlines ultimately failed and how airlines make more money through their loyalty program vs. airfares. Finally, tourists aren’t really to blame for overtourism…is it the government’s?? Get 10% off using MORNINGBREW10 at altrarunning.com/morningbrew Check out The Points Guy Summer Travel Hub 2026: https://thepointsguy.com/lp/s/summer-travel/ Grab tickets to our Performance Revue show! https://www.morningbrew.com/events/brew-performance-revue-2026?utm_campaign=performance_revue_2026&utm_source=mbd Subscribe to Morning Brew Daily for more of the news you need to start your day. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app. Listen to Morning Brew Daily Here: https://www.swap.fm/l/mbd-note Watch Morning Brew Daily Here: https://www.youtube.com/@MorningBrewDailyShow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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