# That Heifer Nancy Reagan Loved D.A.R.E. with Ms. Pat

An episode of [Scam Goddess](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1479455008), 29 Sep 2026, 1 h 03 min.

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The iconic stand-up comedian Ms. Pat makes her debut on Scam Goddess. Laci tries to gently break the news that the D.A.R.E. program was designed by the same man who was in charge when Rodney King was beaten by the police and who invented SWAT. Ms. Pat discusses sharing a Sears credit card, past scheming, and Smokey the Bear. SOCIALS: Ms. Pat: @comediennemspat Laci Mosley: @divalaci WE'RE ON YOUTUBE: Join us on YouTube! See Laci, the guests, and fraudsters: https://www.youtube.com/@ScamGoddess Pre-Order Ms. Pats book here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Ms-American-Dream/Patricia-Williams-Lee/9781668044216 SOURCES https://www.instagram.com/p/DQ2isCBlVhw/ https://www.publicbooks.org/dare-is-more-than-just-anti-drug-education-it-is-police-propaganda/ https://www.npr.org/2023/11/09/1211217460/fentanyl-drug-education-dare https://www.silvermistrecovery.com/the-downfall-of-d-a-r-e-how-a-failed-program-shaped-substance-use-trends/ https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/dope/dare/truth.html https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1448384/ https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09687637.2016.1208731 https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-09-09-mn-33226-story.html https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/09/dare-history-police-surveillance-schools.html https://priceonomics.com/dare-the-anti-drug-program-that-never-actually/ https://www.teenvogue.com/story/dare-program-reshape-image-police-officers See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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