# The Most Colorful Home in Queens with Kerry Coddett

An episode of [Scam Goddess](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1479455008), 8 Sep 2026, 1 h 00 min.

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Kerry Coddett, actress and comedian known for her work in Flatbush Misdemeanors, Ramy, Crashing, and The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore, joins Laci for one of the most colorful scams we've ever covered. In Astoria, Queens, one couple scammed multiple members of their immigrant community with one of the ugliest houses ever seen on Zillow. Multiple fronts, including a fashion house, delayed justice, but as with most scams, greed eventually caught up with the perpetrators. SOCIALS: Join us on YouTube! See Laci, the guests, and fraudsters: https://www.youtube.com/@ScamGoddess Find Kerry Coddett on Instagram @overfab SOURCES https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/16/realestate/queens-real-estate-fraud.html?unlocked_article_code=1.mk8.d-iS.Nsr2d5cWNFO7&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/queens-man-pleads-guilty-real-estate-fraud-scheme https://nypost.com/2025/09/17/real-estate/the-dark-story-behind-the-most-colorful-house-in-queens/ https://toptenrealestatedeals.com/weekly-ten-best-home-deals/home/as-seen-on-zillow-gone-wild-queens-most-colorful-home https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article311691934.html See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:17] Speaker 1: Scam Goddess! What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl Lacey Mosley, a.k.a.
[0:21] Speaker 2: Scam Goddess, back with another installment of the podcast all
[0:24] Speaker 2: about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it.
[0:27] Speaker 1: Sometimes we love them.
[0:28] Speaker 2: Sometimes we hate them. But one thing's for sure, this
[0:30] Speaker 2: is a comedy podcast, so we will laugh at them,
[0:32] Speaker 2: but never at the victims.
[0:33] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. And congregation, you already know that I'm what? Yes. Excited. Thrilled. Elated. Okay?
[0:40] Speaker 1: Stand up. Stand up in your cars. Stand up, you know,
[0:42] Speaker 1: at your job. Stand up at your desk. Get a little.
[0:46] Speaker 2: You know, activity going. We like that for you. And
[0:48] Speaker 2: please welcome Carrie Coddett. She's a New York-based comedian, actress,
[0:52] Speaker 2: and writer. Her credits include Flatbush Misdemeanors, funny as hell, Rami, Crashing,
[0:57] Speaker 2: and The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore.
[0:59] Speaker 1: Oh, all bops. Love that for us. Carrie, welcome to
[1:03] Speaker 1: the show. Hi. It's so nice to have you. Thank
[1:05] Speaker 1: you for having me. I'm excited.
[1:06] Speaker 2: Yes, I love that you're using our language. It's gotten
[1:09] Speaker 2: very limited. I'm going to expand my lexicon and give
[1:12] Speaker 2: the girls some different words.
[1:13] Speaker 1: More than excited? Yeah. I try to go with thrilled,
[1:16] Speaker 1: you know. Enticed feels a little too sexual. But something.
[1:21] Speaker 2: Sometimes I say I'm pumped, but I say it just
[1:23] Speaker 2: like that. And people are like, that feels not sincere.
[1:25] Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm pumped. I'm pumped. Pumped feels like a
[1:29] Speaker 1: white people wear, like, malarkey. Like... Probably. I'm pumped. I'm stoked.
[1:34] Speaker 2: Is there anything stoked in? I've never said stoked. You've
[1:37] Speaker 2: never said stoked? I've never said stoked.
[1:39] Speaker 1: Pumped felt natural when you said it. Yeah.
[1:41] Speaker 2: I feel like when I say it, it doesn't feel
[1:42] Speaker 2: that natural.
[1:45] Speaker 1: Well, I have to ask you, Keri, first and foremost...
[1:48] Speaker 1: You used to live in New York City, right? Mm-hmm.
[1:50] Speaker 1: In your recent L.A. transplant. Yes, ma'am. Yeah, so I
[1:53] Speaker 1: know you have some type of relationship with scams. Do
[1:56] Speaker 1: you love them? Do you hate them?
[1:57] Speaker 2: Are there any that you kind of, like, fuck with?
[1:59] Speaker 2: Other ones that you, you know, anything that you've seen?
[2:02] Speaker 2: I love a good scam. I'm not gonna lie. I
[2:05] Speaker 2: love a good scam. I feel like there's a code
[2:08] Speaker 2: of ethics that you have to have, though.
[2:09] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[2:09] Speaker 2: And so I feel like you should never scam people.
[2:12] Speaker 2: But if you scam in corporations, in systems, I'm with
[2:17] Speaker 2: the shits. I love that you say that. Because we
[2:19] Speaker 2: always say scam up, don't scam down. But I love
[2:21] Speaker 2: that you said don't scam people. Because I think.
[2:24] Speaker 1: That for so long, corporations have tried to trick us
[2:26] Speaker 1: that they are people.
[2:27] Speaker 2: And it's getting worse and worse. Have you noticed that?
[2:30] Speaker 2: Like how ads, like, do you have a TikTok or like?
[2:33] Speaker 2: I have a TikTok, but I'm not on it. It's
[2:36] Speaker 2: a lot going on. I can't figure out how you
[2:39] Speaker 2: even get to the feed part.
[2:40] Speaker 1: I just, I'm not.
[2:42] Speaker 2: I'm old.
[2:42] Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram. That's as far as I'm going.
[2:45] Speaker 2: So the lineage of like how jokes and stuff go,
[2:49] Speaker 2: it's like it first appears on TikTok, then you see
[2:51] Speaker 2: it on Instagram, then it'd be on Facebook. So you're
[2:55] Speaker 2: at the millennial Instagram, which is good. If something says
[2:57] Speaker 2: good on Instagram, I'd be like, maybe I should put
[2:59] Speaker 2: it on TikTok. And so I'm doing it the other way.
[3:02] Speaker 1: I'm doing it the other way. Yeah.
[3:03] Speaker 2: The thing is, I feel like TikTok is not as
[3:05] Speaker 2: much of a hater when it comes to the algorithm.
[3:07] Speaker 2: If you take it from Instagram and put it on TikTok.
[3:09] Speaker 2: But Instagram will hate if you have something on TikTok
[3:12] Speaker 2: and put it on Instagram. Because they can tell that
[3:15] Speaker 2: it came from TikTok and downloaded it and they'll suppress it.
[3:18] Speaker 1: That's too much. So it's like it's forcing you to
[3:19] Speaker 1: be loyal to one platform. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not. It's
[3:23] Speaker 1: been a hater for so long. They used to let
[3:25] Speaker 1: us see our friends. That is true.
[3:27] Speaker 2: Do you know how many people? I'm like, did I
[3:28] Speaker 2: unfollow you or are you dead? Like, what happened to
[3:31] Speaker 2: this person?
[3:31] Speaker 1: Yeah. If I'm seeing you on my timeline, I think
[3:34] Speaker 1: something happened to you. Right. At some point, we have
[3:36] Speaker 1: to start doing welfare DMs. Like, how have you been? Like,
[3:39] Speaker 1: are you alive? Right. Yeah. Did you see the message? Okay, okay,
[3:43] Speaker 1: they saw it. They saw it. So somebody's running the page.
[3:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like I see a lot of
[3:47] Speaker 2: companies masquerading as people now, and it's so annoying to me. Like,
[3:52] Speaker 2: you'll see someone post something, and then the companies will
[3:55] Speaker 2: come in like, oh, don't play with us.
[3:57] Speaker 1: It's Wendy's, bitch.
[3:58] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, like the voice of their social. It's like
[4:01] Speaker 2: a person, and they're all trying to be really cute.
[4:03] Speaker 2: And it's like, it's just, just sell me the burger, bro.
[4:06] Speaker 2: Or not, but like all the other stuff.
[4:09] Speaker 1: Right.
[4:09] Speaker 2: Especially I was seeing stuff during Love Island. Sarah V
[4:12] Speaker 2: got in trouble because.
[4:13] Speaker 1: Well, they do.
[4:14] Speaker 2: So, you know how Sarah V and I've said this before.
[4:17] Speaker 2: Love Island is our Stanford prison experiment. And, you know,
[4:20] Speaker 2: we lock the babies up and sleep to prep them and,
[4:22] Speaker 2: you know, make them make them that kid, you know.
[4:25] Speaker 1: But Sarah V is always a huge sponsor. So they'll
[4:28] Speaker 1: be like, yeah, a little little bikini babies. It's time
[4:31] Speaker 1: to put on your Sarah V and go outside. So
[4:34] Speaker 1: there was like a. Did you watch this past season?
[4:36] Speaker 1: I did. I did. So you remember when T.T. came
[4:39] Speaker 1: in and she turned it into a little... She was like,
[4:43] Speaker 1: I'm T.T. Well, I'm talking to you. I tuned in
[4:46] Speaker 1: just after that.
[4:47] Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I got to start watching now
[4:49] Speaker 2: because I need to understand why everybody's T.T.
[4:51] Speaker 1: Right. That's how they got me season seven. I was like,
[4:53] Speaker 1: who's this hood lady and why does everyone hate her?
[4:55] Speaker 1: That's how they got me to it. Elandria. I'm like,
[4:57] Speaker 1: who is this? Right. And why do I need to
[5:00] Speaker 1: go defend my black queen? So the I'm T.T. stuff...
[5:04] Speaker 1: Sarah V.
[5:05] Speaker 2: Dressed up their bottles in the outfits that T.T. and
[5:09] Speaker 2: that man, whatever that man name is.
[5:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, Casey.
[5:12] Speaker 2: They dressed up the bottles in the outfits that they
[5:15] Speaker 2: had on. And it was like, pipe down, I'm Sarah V.
[5:18] Speaker 2: And I guess this moment was kind of racially charged
[5:22] Speaker 2: and a little negative for T.T.
[5:23] Speaker 1: And Casey and also for... They made them sassy suntan lotion. Yeah.
[5:30] Speaker 1: And everybody was like, this is really tone deaf. Why
[5:32] Speaker 1: would you do this?
[5:34] Speaker 2: But, like, that's how comfortable they feel now, pretending to
[5:37] Speaker 2: be people. And I'm like, you're not a person. I
[5:38] Speaker 2: don't care about you, corporation.
[5:40] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[5:41] Speaker 2: Wasn't there something with Pepsi the other day where it
[5:43] Speaker 2: was like, Cherry doesn't ask for consent or something?
[5:47] Speaker 1: Oh, yes, I saw that. There was something like that.
[5:49] Speaker 1: There was something with consent, and I think it was Pepsi.
[5:51] Speaker 1: Don't quote me on that. No, it was. It was Pepsi.
[5:54] Speaker 1: It was like Cherry Pepsi and then the other Pepsis. Mm-hmm. Yeah,
[5:57] Speaker 1: and what's crazy to me is, like, Pepsi.
[5:59] Speaker 2: This is what you get for following along with firing
[6:02] Speaker 2: your DEI hires. If you had some black people in
[6:05] Speaker 2: that marketing room, they would have told you this wasn't smart.
[6:07] Speaker 1: Just like they would have told you not to tell
[6:09] Speaker 1: Kendall Jenner to walk... And.
[6:11] Speaker 2: Offer the can in the middle of the... The racial protest.
[6:17] Speaker 2: A can of Pepsi to cure racism. You know, in hindsight,
[6:21] Speaker 2: as we say it, so now, like, it was annoying,
[6:23] Speaker 2: but now that I think about it, I get why
[6:25] Speaker 2: they're trying to be relevant.
[6:27] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[6:27] Speaker 2: It's like, if you were an old, dying brand, what
[6:29] Speaker 2: you gonna do? Like, how do you stay relevant? So
[6:33] Speaker 2: I think they're just probably trying to stay a part
[6:35] Speaker 2: of the competition and part of the conversation.
[6:37] Speaker 1: So I guess, but it's desperate.
[6:39] Speaker 2: And unfortunately now, it kind of feels like anything being
[6:41] Speaker 2: a part of the conversation is good. So even if
[6:44] Speaker 2: it's backlash, they're still getting talked about. They're still getting
[6:47] Speaker 2: the clicks and the algorithms in their favor.
[6:50] Speaker 1: All press is good press. Which I hate that. I
[6:53] Speaker 1: miss when people used to do damage control. I miss, like,
[6:55] Speaker 1: a good publicist.
[6:56] Speaker 2: I miss, like, a nasty, like, Oprah couch moment where
[6:59] Speaker 2: you cry and you really tell the girls to come
[7:01] Speaker 2: back and buy your product.
[7:02] Speaker 1: Because you changed.
[7:02] Speaker 2: But those always backfire, too. That's the whole thing, especially
[7:05] Speaker 2: in these times. Like, people will go on and they'll apologize,
[7:08] Speaker 2: and we'll be like, you made it worse. You shouldn't
[7:10] Speaker 2: be quiet. You shouldn't have just shut the fuck up.
[7:12] Speaker 2: That's because you can't do your own front-facing apology. You
[7:15] Speaker 2: have to go on somebody else's platform.
[7:17] Speaker 1: Anytime you whip out your camera.
[7:18] Speaker 2: I'm not going to think it's genuine because I know
[7:20] Speaker 2: you went to the poorest-looking place in your house.
[7:22] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Like, where can you not see the acreage? They
[7:25] Speaker 1: don't do their makeup. They got to make it look
[7:27] Speaker 1: like they've been crying. Right, right. Rub their eyes real hard.
[7:29] Speaker 1: They got the quivering voice. Yeah. Right.
[7:31] Speaker 2: It's like, and then it's always half-assed apologies. Like, I'm
[7:34] Speaker 2: sorry if I've harmed. Like, there should be no if
[7:36] Speaker 2: in your apology. I think, though, that we should stop
[7:40] Speaker 2: asking people to apologize, bro. I think like that. It
[7:43] Speaker 2: has gotten so crazy. We all know you're not really sorry.
[7:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, we do.
[7:47] Speaker 2: Also, you're not really mad. You're mad today. Tomorrow is
[7:50] Speaker 2: going to be something else. Why I got to apologize?
[7:53] Speaker 1: It's not really that big of a deal. Fuck off. Right.
[7:55] Speaker 1: I'm so annoyed. I'm hating. What I'm going to have
[7:58] Speaker 1: to apologize for in the future. I'm already knowing, bro.
[8:02] Speaker 1: I'm already knowing. You hate the scam of apologizing in public?
[8:05] Speaker 1: It's so dumb. It's so disingenuous. We know you don't
[8:08] Speaker 1: really mean it. It's just dumb. It's just like a
[8:11] Speaker 1: fun humiliation ritual.
[8:13] Speaker 2: Look, if strangers on the planet are just going to
[8:16] Speaker 2: give you money to follow your dreams, meanwhile, they got
[8:18] Speaker 2: to clock in to whatever job they hate.
[8:21] Speaker 1: The least you.
[8:21] Speaker 2: Can do is rub your eyes, get in your bathtub,
[8:25] Speaker 2: and give us a little fake apology.
[8:27] Speaker 1: That will also tear apart. I guess. I guess. Damn.
[8:33] Speaker 1: This is the life we chose, girl. It is.
[8:35] Speaker 2: It chose us. Have you had to apologize for anything yet?
[8:38] Speaker 2: Don't even say those words in the ether, okay? Don't
[8:40] Speaker 2: speak that. Don't speak that.
[8:41] Speaker 1: I try to be very, very careful. See, now you
[8:44] Speaker 1: cut that out.
[8:45] Speaker 2: Cut that out, okay? Because I don't even want people
[8:48] Speaker 2: thinking about it. Yeah, don't have them looking for shit.
[8:50] Speaker 1: Right. All right, back to Sarah B. Or whatever's on
[8:52] Speaker 1: the card. We got off the card. We're going to
[8:54] Speaker 1: move into our historic hoodwink today, okay? This is where
[8:59] Speaker 1: I will regale Carrie with a famous con caper, group
[9:01] Speaker 1: of criminals. We'll see how she feels all the way through.
[9:05] Speaker 1: I wanted to, like, hearken back to your time in
[9:07] Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're going to be
[9:10] Speaker 1: talking about the most colorful house in Queens.
[9:14] Speaker 2: So this house, like, what do you think about this house?
[9:18] Speaker 2: First of all, is this the most colorful? I guess
[9:20] Speaker 2: this is New York. They don't really do color.
[9:21] Speaker 1: It's not Miami. Yeah, no, I've never seen a house
[9:23] Speaker 1: this colorful. I love the lights.
[9:25] Speaker 2: I don't know if they're east-facing, but it looks like
[9:28] Speaker 2: they get really great lights.
[9:30] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[9:30] Speaker 2: Well, it seems like there's a lot of windows, so
[9:33] Speaker 2: they have to be getting good lights somewhere. I feel
[9:36] Speaker 2: like I would be hating on them if I was
[9:38] Speaker 2: their neighbor. I was just like, wait, look at what's
[9:40] Speaker 2: next door. That's so crazy. Like, I don't know how
[9:43] Speaker 2: I would feel walking up to my driveway every day
[9:45] Speaker 2: having to walk past this. Also, I feel like this
[9:49] Speaker 2: opens yourself up to robbery. Like the windows, it doesn't
[9:53] Speaker 2: seem like they got curtains going on. White people never
[9:56] Speaker 2: put curtains on their window though. Like that's the whole thing.
[9:59] Speaker 2: Like I used to live in Bed-Stuy, and I remember
[10:01] Speaker 2: when the gentrification was really coming, and I was like,
[10:04] Speaker 2: why are they moving in and then not putting up curtains?
[10:06] Speaker 1: It's almost like they're like, look what I can do
[10:08] Speaker 1: with your land.
[10:09] Speaker 2: And it's just like... And so I feel like it's
[10:12] Speaker 2: a status symbol. It's saying, like, look at how I
[10:14] Speaker 2: live inside and fuck with me if you want to.
[10:17] Speaker 1: That's true.
[10:18] Speaker 2: And I feel like in America, that's probably what it's giving...
[10:21] Speaker 2: In other places, like, I remember being in Amsterdam, and
[10:24] Speaker 2: a lot of places there, like, they don't have curtains.
[10:28] Speaker 2: They leave their windows open. Like, we would take, like,
[10:31] Speaker 2: tours or be walking along the canal. And, like, Amsterdam
[10:35] Speaker 2: itself is so small. And, like, you would see, like,
[10:37] Speaker 2: kids doing homework at the table or the moms serving
[10:40] Speaker 2: a dinner or they're watching TV, like.
[10:43] Speaker 1: I don't know. But it does feel like it's still
[10:45] Speaker 1: a flex. It's the European whites. They're bringing their European
[10:48] Speaker 1: ways over here. Which I still think is a flex.
[10:52] Speaker 1: It is. That's just not how we are. Like, my
[10:54] Speaker 1: curtains are closed. Yeah.
[10:55] Speaker 2: And, like, when you come to my house, this is
[10:57] Speaker 2: the room I want you to be in. Don't ask
[10:59] Speaker 2: for a tour. Mind your business. The other rooms are
[11:02] Speaker 2: off limits. Tours is crazy.
[11:03] Speaker 1: Tours are crazy. No, no. I got a designated bathroom.
[11:06] Speaker 1: That's why I call it the guest bathroom. You're not
[11:08] Speaker 1: going to be in my bathroom rifling through my medicine
[11:09] Speaker 1: cabinets and looking at my makeup and stuff.
[11:12] Speaker 2: You know, no, no, no, no, no. I'm with you
[11:13] Speaker 2: on that. I'm down for the privacy. But, I mean,
[11:16] Speaker 2: I guess it's because we have survival instincts. You know,
[11:19] Speaker 2: I was reading the other day, like, when you're an
[11:21] Speaker 2: apex predator, you're not really scared of much.
[11:23] Speaker 1: That's why when shots start ringing out, they never run fast. Nope.
[11:26] Speaker 1: They actually run towards the danger. What's going on? Hold on,
[11:29] Speaker 1: let me stop this. I've never been that curious. I've
[11:33] Speaker 1: never been like, let me go see. I'm never trying
[11:35] Speaker 1: to see. No, you could pop a balloon. I'm running
[11:37] Speaker 1: in the opposite direction. I don't want to know. I don't.
[11:40] Speaker 2: But this house, you know, it looks cheerful from the curb, right?
[11:43] Speaker 2: But it's actually a candyland-colored nightmare maze built and sustained
[11:48] Speaker 2: with money stolen from its own neighbors in a tight-knit
[11:52] Speaker 2: immigrant community.
[11:53] Speaker 1: And it's currently for sale. So this is the inside. Oh, wow.
[11:57] Speaker 2: I don't know how I would feel. On one hand,
[12:00] Speaker 2: I'm like, I have anxiety and depression.
[12:03] Speaker 1: Maybe this would heal me. It is so ugly. It
[12:06] Speaker 1: is so ugly. It is. Is it, though? This would
[12:11] Speaker 1: heal you? What is actually going on that this is, like,
[12:14] Speaker 1: the balm to your soul?
[12:16] Speaker 2: Are you kidding me right now? This is like a kaleidoscope.
[12:20] Speaker 2: This looks like a mushroom trip. This is crazy.
[12:23] Speaker 1: Okay, maybe it's time for the 5150. Because I feel
[12:26] Speaker 1: like this is calming. So you hated the outside, but
[12:29] Speaker 1: you love the inside? It's so kitschy and ugly that
[12:34] Speaker 1: it's kind of spinning the block for me and becoming.
[12:37] Speaker 2: not bro it's so ugly you don't see.
[12:40] Speaker 1: No whimsy come on look at that red refrigerator.
[12:43] Speaker 2: It's so crazy it's so many things at the same
[12:46] Speaker 2: time and those chairs they make no sense like it's
[12:50] Speaker 2: like i'm not a very good decorator so.
[12:53] Speaker 1: For me i'm kind of like if i'm not gonna
[12:55] Speaker 1: be good.
[12:56] Speaker 2: At it i might as well just be really bad
[12:57] Speaker 2: at it no and act like there's a choice that's
[12:59] Speaker 2: not is that how you apply like other things in
[13:02] Speaker 2: life if i'm not good i should just be the
[13:04] Speaker 2: worst If you can't be the best, be the worst.
[13:08] Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Lacey, I want so much more for you,
[13:11] Speaker 1: to be honest. Like, I really.
[13:12] Speaker 2: So, wait, I have a question. How did they come
[13:15] Speaker 2: to acquire the house? How was this a scam? Who
[13:18] Speaker 2: did they steal from? So, they sustained the money and
[13:21] Speaker 2: built this with, like, money from their own neighbors. So,
[13:24] Speaker 2: they were stealing from their tight-knit immigrant community. So, a
[13:27] Speaker 2: little bit of backstory about, like, Astoria itself, because this
[13:30] Speaker 2: is in Queens.
[13:32] Speaker 1: So, Astoria is a little bit of a scam on
[13:34] Speaker 1: its own.
[13:35] Speaker 2: So this is where this creepy house is located. It's
[13:37] Speaker 2: on 36th Avenue in Astoria, Queens, which was originally the
[13:40] Speaker 2: site of a War of 1812 fort before it became
[13:44] Speaker 2: its own town. So in the War of 1812, this
[13:47] Speaker 2: was a fort where they were, you know, bunkering down
[13:49] Speaker 2: and stuff. So this is before it became a town.
[13:52] Speaker 2: It used to be called Hallett's Cove before fur trader
[13:55] Speaker 2: Stephen A. Halsey renamed it Astoria, see?
[13:59] Speaker 1: We were talking about this before the show started. About naming.
[14:01] Speaker 1: You see how the names. Yes. How they dad, they
[14:04] Speaker 1: gentrified the name. It's getting a selling sunset. Like, oh,
[14:06] Speaker 1: this house, this $ 40 million house is on Pinto Street.
[14:09] Speaker 1: But you know what? Pinto doesn't get $ 40 million. It doesn't. Pinto? No.
[14:13] Speaker 1: What about Hummingbird Lane? So he was like, Hallet's Cove.
[14:17] Speaker 1: What the hell is a Hallet? It sounds like you
[14:20] Speaker 1: in the trenches. Yeah, yeah.
[14:21] Speaker 2: So Astoria does have a ring to it. So, it
[14:24] Speaker 2: changed to Astoria in 1939. A lot was going on
[14:27] Speaker 2: in 1939.
[14:29] Speaker 1: Times.
[14:30] Speaker 2: So, this was after the USA's current rich man, Jacob Astor,
[14:34] Speaker 2: who was also a fur trader.
[14:36] Speaker 1: So, it was called Astoria, named after Jacob Astor.
[14:39] Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Because, like, in New York, there's
[14:41] Speaker 2: Astor Place. There's a bunch of things named after him.
[14:44] Speaker 2: But I didn't know that Astoria... I don't like Astoria, though.
[14:47] Speaker 1: So, that tracks. That makes sense. Because I was never
[14:49] Speaker 1: fucking with it. Sorry if you're from Queens. Sorry to
[14:52] Speaker 1: that Queens, but no.
[14:54] Speaker 2: I don't know anyone from Astoria that's still in Astoria though.
[14:57] Speaker 2: So like every, yeah.
[14:58] Speaker 1: It's a place where you go. Uh-huh, moving along. I
[15:05] Speaker 1: just want to say too, I'm from Brooklyn.
[15:07] Speaker 2: I know you said I'm from New York, but Brooklyn
[15:09] Speaker 2: is a distinct identity.
[15:10] Speaker 1: You're right.
[15:11] Speaker 2: And so I'm allowed to shit on the other boroughs.
[15:13] Speaker 2: I don't know about you because you're not a New Yorker.
[15:16] Speaker 1: Listen, I lived there for a little while. Okay. Okay,
[15:19] Speaker 1: and I lived in Bushwick. Bedwick. I lived in Bedwick.
[15:22] Speaker 1: They was calling it Bedwick. And so I was getting
[15:25] Speaker 1: my lights turned on and they were like, oh, what
[15:26] Speaker 1: area are you in? Because this man was like really
[15:28] Speaker 1: chopping it up with me. He's like, yeah, we gonna
[15:29] Speaker 1: get your shit put on. We gonna get your shit
[15:30] Speaker 1: put on. When you free? And I was like, this
[15:32] Speaker 1: is the most casual con every single phone call I've
[15:34] Speaker 1: ever had. He's like, where you move from? Oh, that's crazy.
[15:37] Speaker 1: That's crazy. I bet. Yeah, yeah. What you doing out here?
[15:39] Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I'm in Bedwick. You know,
[15:41] Speaker 1: I'm an actor. And he was like, fuck is Bedwick? Exactly. Exactly.
[15:44] Speaker 1: He said, you mean Bed-Stuy? Bed-Stuy do or die? And
[15:48] Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay. Good to know.
[15:49] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[15:50] Speaker 1: Guess I won't be skipping around here. No, but you did.
[15:52] Speaker 1: You didn't die. So you did. I didn't die. I
[15:53] Speaker 1: did it. I did it. I dude. I didn't die.
[15:57] Speaker 1: Love that for me.
[15:59] Speaker 2: But so, yeah, Jacob Astor was slapping his name all
[16:01] Speaker 2: over everything. And I love Astor and then turning it
[16:04] Speaker 2: into Astoria.
[16:05] Speaker 1: It's giving like, you know when men want to name
[16:08] Speaker 1: their daughters after them? Yeah. Uh-huh. Jacobia.
[16:13] Speaker 2: They give it a little feminine flair. Just a little
[16:15] Speaker 2: feminine flair at the end.
[16:17] Speaker 1: Like, we won't notice.
[16:18] Speaker 2: Also, if you are listening to this, please comment if
[16:20] Speaker 2: you have a dad name. Because I want to know
[16:22] Speaker 2: more dad names. I find them very fun. So, Stephen, who, remember,
[16:29] Speaker 2: he was the one who, he was a fur trader.
[16:31] Speaker 2: He was the one who renamed it Astoria in 1939.
[16:34] Speaker 2: He was trying to manipulate John Astor into investing into
[16:38] Speaker 2: the area. The plan only kind of worked.
[16:41] Speaker 1: And Astor invested a token $ 500, which would be about.
[16:43] Speaker 2: Like $ 17, 000 in today's money. He never even visited. But see,
[16:49] Speaker 2: Jon Astor didn't even go to Queens. He's like, I
[16:52] Speaker 2: know his name after me, but I'm good.
[16:53] Speaker 1: But I'm not going. You ain't even going to cut
[16:55] Speaker 1: me off. What kind of a Debbie dad is that? Like,
[16:57] Speaker 1: I'm going to name you Junior, but I'm never going
[16:59] Speaker 1: to visit you. Never going to visit you. Never went
[17:01] Speaker 1: to a football game. Wasn't at your graduation. Best of
[17:04] Speaker 1: luck to you. Best of luck to you, Junior. Hope
[17:07] Speaker 1: my name's enough.
[17:08] Speaker 2: So, it was enough to get Astoria off the ground
[17:11] Speaker 2: and running into what would become a thriving neighborhood known
[17:14] Speaker 2: for movie production and large immigrant communities from Greece, Egypt, Ecuador, Korea, Colombia, Brazil,
[17:21] Speaker 2: and Bangladesh.
[17:23] Speaker 1: Never take me to Bangladesh. Sorry, that is a stem.
[17:25] Speaker 2: So, It's also known for red brick Tudor buildings and
[17:30] Speaker 2: walk-up apartments with a pretty predictable old-world New York look
[17:34] Speaker 2: to them. So this Candyland house stands out. Like we
[17:37] Speaker 2: were saying before, the house next to it giving war.
[17:41] Speaker 1: This is not. So this house is a six-bedroom, four-bathroom property.
[17:47] Speaker 1: And we're talking about floor-to-ceiling windows, hand-selected chandeliers, which, yeah,
[17:52] Speaker 1: we know those were hand-selected. Whose hands selected that? Like,
[17:56] Speaker 1: whose hands? So many questions. Listen, Willy Wonka.
[18:03] Speaker 2: These chandeliers also double as sculpted art and bold floral
[18:07] Speaker 2: themed finishes that either look like Eternal Spring, if you're
[18:11] Speaker 2: a listing agent, or like a Clown Had a Manic episode.
[18:15] Speaker 1: Just kind of depending on your perspective. I feel like
[18:17] Speaker 1: my perspective is Eternal Spring. And you are definitely saying
[18:22] Speaker 1: Clown Had a Manic episode. I'm definitely Clown Had a
[18:25] Speaker 1: Manic episode. And that's okay. We don't always have to agree.
[18:29] Speaker 1: There's a fake pink tree and skittle-colored leather sofas off
[18:33] Speaker 1: the kitchen. It also doesn't appear to have air conditioning
[18:36] Speaker 1: because there's a standing fan in every picture in every
[18:40] Speaker 1: room in the real estate listing.
[18:43] Speaker 2: So I do see like a wall unit, but what's
[18:46] Speaker 2: pissing me off is that if you're going to spend
[18:47] Speaker 2: this much time decorating the place, why not install a ceiling?
[18:50] Speaker 1: Or at least like those, you know, those ones. The
[18:53] Speaker 1: split unit? Yeah. But it's got the OG joint that
[18:56] Speaker 1: you got to lift up the window and push it down.
[19:00] Speaker 1: The window unit. Yep. I feel like that's really cutting
[19:03] Speaker 1: the corner for no reason.
[19:04] Speaker 2: I feel like it's crazy that that's the part that's
[19:07] Speaker 2: got you caught up.
[19:08] Speaker 1: It's the AC in the thing. You know how hot
[19:10] Speaker 1: it is?
[19:11] Speaker 2: You have bypassed. Is that like plastic? That's all actual
[19:15] Speaker 2: plastic covered couch, bro.
[19:17] Speaker 1: That is like, that's like cellophane on there. Yeah, just
[19:20] Speaker 1: like grandma used to make.
[19:21] Speaker 2: And you bypass that to talk about the AC that
[19:24] Speaker 2: is 3,500 BTUs.
[19:26] Speaker 1: Like, it works. Yeah, but it takes much longer to
[19:29] Speaker 1: cool the room down. Girl. The room shouldn't be white.
[19:33] Speaker 1: It is reflecting.
[19:34] Speaker 2: Do you think about this? Think about the fact that it's...
[19:36] Speaker 2: Now you get me mad because I wasn't upset before.
[19:38] Speaker 2: But the more I look, if it's floor-to-ceiling windows, it's
[19:41] Speaker 2: because you want to optimize sunlight. Then everything is stark white.
[19:44] Speaker 2: The ceilings, the walls, and the floor. Which means that
[19:46] Speaker 2: it's bouncing and reflecting light.
[19:48] Speaker 1: So you're basically... frying in there. Yeah. You mad about
[19:53] Speaker 1: the AC? More AC. See how we agreed? We came together.
[19:57] Speaker 1: We circled around and we agreed. How am I going
[20:00] Speaker 1: to sit on that plastic couch and not get stuck
[20:02] Speaker 1: if we don't have a lot of AC? You don't
[20:05] Speaker 1: sit on the couch. That's the whole thing. You don't
[20:07] Speaker 1: come over. This is crazy. So this is on the
[20:10] Speaker 1: market right now? Yes. So the house made it to
[20:12] Speaker 1: Zillow Gone Wild when it was listed in August for
[20:15] Speaker 1: $ 3 million. This is never going to happen. Which is
[20:18] Speaker 1: down now to $ 2. 5 million. Because you know the market's
[20:21] Speaker 1: really wild to sell any home, right? I don't know
[20:24] Speaker 1: why I'm getting angry. This is really working me up. Scams!
[20:35] Speaker 2: So, I mean, The Cellars, it's owned by Jasmine Bukhari.
[20:39] Speaker 2: She and her husband, Roshan, are well-known in Queens, in
[20:44] Speaker 2: the Bangladeshi community, for their flashy lifestyle and being big
[20:49] Speaker 2: real estate portfolio moguls.
[20:52] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[20:52] Speaker 2: According to the public record, they bought the building in 1999,
[20:57] Speaker 2: gut-renovated it, and in 2017, they then transformed it into
[21:01] Speaker 2: its current fantastical state. So they were really partying like
[21:05] Speaker 2: it was 1999. Rashid Khan isn't technically an owner of
[21:08] Speaker 2: the house, which is convenient because he recently pled guilty
[21:12] Speaker 2: to wire fraud after scamming fellow Bangladeshi Americans out of
[21:16] Speaker 2: more than $ 1 million.
[21:19] Speaker 1: Prosecutors say he took advantage of the community ties and
[21:22] Speaker 1: that the most colorful home may have been one of
[21:24] Speaker 1: the things the stolen money paid for. So we saw
[21:27] Speaker 1: his wife waving like, it's for sale. But it's like,
[21:32] Speaker 1: you're not saying why it's for sale, girl. You're not
[21:35] Speaker 1: saying how it got for sale. So this was their
[21:38] Speaker 1: real estate investment scheme.
[21:41] Speaker 2: It doesn't even make any sense because real estate 101
[21:44] Speaker 2: is you never want the nicest house on the ugliest block.
[21:48] Speaker 2: So you have a house that's $ 3 million, but all
[21:51] Speaker 2: of the other neighboring houses are not going for that. Yeah.
[21:54] Speaker 1: Who's buying that? There's no, like, that makes absolutely no sense.
[21:57] Speaker 1: It's dumb.
[21:58] Speaker 2: That's how you know he's scamming. That's not even a
[22:00] Speaker 2: style in real estate.
[22:01] Speaker 1: Who's buying that? Exactly. I'm going to put in an offer.
[22:05] Speaker 1: And Rashidun approached another. You're going to put in an offer? See, Kiera,
[22:08] Speaker 1: you're falling in love with it. You're falling in love
[22:10] Speaker 1: with it. I knew I would get you. So Rashidun,
[22:13] Speaker 1: this is like the real estate investment scheme. Rashidon approached
[22:16] Speaker 1: another real estate investor in the same community. This guy's
[22:19] Speaker 1: name was Aslam, and this was in 2015. And so
[22:22] Speaker 1: Rashidon said that he had a great deal on a
[22:24] Speaker 1: $ 4 million auction property in the Long Island City area.
[22:29] Speaker 1: Rashidon pitched the idea that they split a $ 200, 000 down
[22:31] Speaker 1: payment and ownership evenly. Aslan's family knew Rashidun's family in Bangladesh,
[22:39] Speaker 1: so he felt a sense of trust and agreed to
[22:41] Speaker 1: the deal. Rashidun told him to keep quiet about the deal,
[22:44] Speaker 1: otherwise they would get outbid at the auction. Red flag
[22:48] Speaker 1: number one. Because why we got to be quiet about it?
[22:51] Speaker 2: Anything somebody's asked you to be quiet about, tell. Right,
[22:55] Speaker 2: especially if they want your money for it. You should
[22:57] Speaker 2: tell everyone.
[22:58] Speaker 1: Right.
[22:59] Speaker 2: I don't want to buy things and then people be like,
[23:01] Speaker 2: be quiet about it, though. I feel like the only
[23:03] Speaker 2: things that I buy that... I would be quiet about it.
[23:06] Speaker 1: I was like, drugs? I'm not even quiet about that
[23:09] Speaker 1: because who are you going to do the drugs with?
[23:10] Speaker 1: You got to know. How are you going to know
[23:13] Speaker 1: if you also do drugs if you don't mention, hang on,
[23:15] Speaker 1: I have some drugs.
[23:16] Speaker 2: It's just like you're buying them from the drug man.
[23:18] Speaker 2: Drug man not giving you a receipt, like guaranteed. Although
[23:21] Speaker 2: I will say in New York when it wasn't legal,
[23:23] Speaker 2: there was like a weed company that would deliver weed.
[23:26] Speaker 2: And I remember it was Pride. They would deliver weed
[23:29] Speaker 2: on backpacks and it was Pride one year. We might
[23:31] Speaker 2: have went to the same delivery and you went through
[23:33] Speaker 2: the app and it was, I'm not blowing up anybody,
[23:36] Speaker 2: but I know, and they would come and they would
[23:38] Speaker 2: have their backpacks.
[23:38] Speaker 1: Yep, they would have their.
[23:39] Speaker 2: Backpacks, but they got too busy on Pride and so
[23:42] Speaker 2: they didn't make it with my delivery. And so I
[23:45] Speaker 2: was like, I've been working with.
[23:46] Speaker 1: Y'all for years. I've been a loyal weed customer. Wait,
[23:49] Speaker 1: you tried to complain? I did. Through the app? And
[23:51] Speaker 1: why didn't you give me a little discount? They did.
[23:54] Speaker 1: They did. I was like, this is great customer service.
[23:57] Speaker 1: They had amazing customer service. They really did. I hope
[24:00] Speaker 1: they're still in business. I know. Now legit. Shout out
[24:02] Speaker 1: to them. Yeah, or maybe not legit so you don't
[24:04] Speaker 1: have to pay the taxes. Y'all have a great formula. Right.
[24:07] Speaker 1: You know, keep... Pass the savings down to the customer.
[24:10] Speaker 1: So over the next few.
[24:11] Speaker 2: Years, Aslam gave Rashidan almost a million dollars to make
[24:15] Speaker 2: similar purchases. And Rashidan kept saying the actual closing dates
[24:19] Speaker 2: for the properties were getting delayed. When Aslam's lawyers finally
[24:22] Speaker 2: got involved, they could tell that the deals never existed.
[24:26] Speaker 2: The properties hadn't been purchased and the sales documents were forged.
[24:31] Speaker 2: So for a year, Aslam trusted Rashidan because their families
[24:34] Speaker 2: knew each other in Bangladesh. So it was like, we're
[24:36] Speaker 2: all sticking together in America for a year. He didn't
[24:39] Speaker 2: question it.
[24:40] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[24:41] Speaker 2: Aslam, I want to be on your side, but babes,
[24:44] Speaker 2: why we get to the $ 1 million point? I feel
[24:46] Speaker 2: like at the $ 200, 000.
[24:47] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. At the don't tell. Mm-hmm.
[24:50] Speaker 2: The whole beginning, I don't know what this means. I just,
[24:54] Speaker 2: I can't relate. I don't understand. Like, you have to
[24:58] Speaker 2: do your due diligence. I'm not giving some random person money.
[25:01] Speaker 2: But they said the sales documents were forged.
[25:03] Speaker 1: Yes. So he was producing documents. Mm-hmm.
[25:07] Speaker 2: And, like, I can understand the cultural aspect here because
[25:10] Speaker 2: a lot of immigrant communities really do.
[25:12] Speaker 1: Stick to each other. You know what I mean? They
[25:14] Speaker 1: buy from each other. They set up stores in their
[25:16] Speaker 1: own neighborhoods. That's why we have so many immigrant community neighborhoods. Obviously,
[25:19] Speaker 1: in New York, there's tons of them. In L.A. as well,
[25:22] Speaker 1: you know.
[25:22] Speaker 2: So there is a little Bangladesh in L.A. You know,
[25:25] Speaker 2: there is, like, there's all these communities. You know, you
[25:27] Speaker 2: got a little Puerto Rico in New York. You have
[25:28] Speaker 2: all these places where they've all settled down together. So
[25:31] Speaker 2: I can understand the trust there. Now, I don't know
[25:33] Speaker 2: if I'm trusting 200,000 on a low note. Yeah, I
[25:35] Speaker 2: don't care because the thing about it is, see, because
[25:38] Speaker 2: in Bangladesh, there are people who don't trust each other.
[25:41] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[25:42] Speaker 2: So y'all not going to come here and all of
[25:43] Speaker 2: a sudden be upstanding citizens.
[25:45] Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
[25:46] Speaker 2: It's like, I get it, but I'm still not going to,
[25:50] Speaker 2: I'm not just going to blindly trust you.
[25:51] Speaker 1: We do have a saying, all skin folk ain't kinfolk. Exactly. Exactly. Mm-hmm. Yeah,
[25:57] Speaker 1: you're right. That is a newer saying, though.
[25:59] Speaker 2: I feel like that came out post-2016 when we were, oh,
[26:03] Speaker 2: everybody was black in BLM.
[26:04] Speaker 1: And they were like, maybe all black lives don't matter. Right.
[26:07] Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Right. We were like, huh.
[26:09] Speaker 1: I get why Harriet Tubman shot some of y'all. I
[26:11] Speaker 1: always say that.
[26:11] Speaker 2: Some of y'all couldn't make it. She kept a gun
[26:14] Speaker 2: for a reason.
[26:15] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Okay?
[26:16] Speaker 2: Also, people don't talk about this a lot, but, you know,
[26:20] Speaker 2: the Black Panther movement, it's always been, like, kind of
[26:23] Speaker 2: washed in the sense of, like, and this is also
[26:26] Speaker 2: with our history and the whitewashing of our history, but
[26:28] Speaker 2: you think, like, you know, Martin Luther King did the
[26:30] Speaker 2: marches and the 5Ks and everybody was together for the boycotts.
[26:33] Speaker 1: They weren't all together.
[26:34] Speaker 2: There were Black people trying to get on the bus,
[26:36] Speaker 2: and the Black Panthers would snatch their asses off.
[26:39] Speaker 1: And beat them up and tell them to walk. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 100%.
[26:42] Speaker 1: We weren't all for the cause. Nope. It's... Kind of
[26:45] Speaker 1: the same way today. It is. There's always people crossing
[26:47] Speaker 1: the picket line. Truly. Mm-hmm.
[26:49] Speaker 2: You have to be online talking about purchases that we
[26:52] Speaker 2: were like, you're not supposed to be over there.
[26:53] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Like, at least if you're going to go over there,
[26:55] Speaker 1: don't tell nobody. Mm-hmm. Like, what you doing? Now, that
[26:57] Speaker 1: you keep a secret.
[26:59] Speaker 2: So you don't keep a secret if somebody's like, hey,
[27:01] Speaker 2: there's some money in here for you.
[27:02] Speaker 1: Don't tell nobody. Right. But if you crossing the picket
[27:04] Speaker 1: line and you know you're not supposed to be. Don't
[27:06] Speaker 1: tell nobody. Don't tell nobody. Right. Because next time we
[27:10] Speaker 1: see you online honking the shit. This is what I'm saying.
[27:13] Speaker 2: It's not the time to do a Target haul. It's
[27:16] Speaker 2: not the time. Don't tell nobody.
[27:17] Speaker 1: But Target sponsored the show.
[27:22] Speaker 2: So Aslam filed a civil lawsuit in 2021. A year later,
[27:26] Speaker 2: Rashidun was indicted.
[27:28] Speaker 1: Rashidun had done the same thing to at least nine
[27:31] Speaker 1: other neighbors in his community. A mother and a daughter
[27:34] Speaker 1: who for a long time lived together in a basement apartment.
[27:38] Speaker 1: They gave him $ 191, 000 after he promised to help them
[27:43] Speaker 1: buy a modest two-family home in Jamaica, Queens. Now, I
[27:47] Speaker 1: know that Rashidun has this reputation of being a real
[27:50] Speaker 1: estate mogul. Mm-hmm. There are just like realtors in New York. Now,
[27:57] Speaker 1: is real estate in New York shady as hell? Absolutely.
[28:01] Speaker 2: So I can kind of understand wanting to stay within
[28:03] Speaker 2: your own community or at least keep the money circulating
[28:05] Speaker 2: in your own community.
[28:06] Speaker 1: That's why we're always like, buy black. Or if it's
[28:08] Speaker 1: black owned, I'm like, okay, let me look at it.
[28:13] Speaker 1: And that's where we're going to keep quiet about. Mm-hmm.
[28:18] Speaker 1: It's amazing water. Oh, yeah. I got Diet Coke in here.
[28:20] Speaker 1: This is L.A. 's tap's finest.
[28:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, but so they were trying to get a home
[28:24] Speaker 2: and get up out of their basement apartment. And they'd
[28:27] Speaker 2: given him $ 191, 000. The house never materialized. And Rashidun blamed
[28:32] Speaker 2: COVID delays in the paperwork. But when the women found
[28:35] Speaker 2: Aslam's lawsuit against Rashidun online in 2021, they knew the
[28:39] Speaker 2: same thing had happened to them. Like, what are all
[28:42] Speaker 2: these delays? And also.
[28:45] Speaker 1: Why are you.
[28:45] Speaker 2: Giving anybody $ 191, 000, $ 200, 000 and not going with them?
[28:51] Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, I'm not giving the check directly to you.
[28:53] Speaker 1: I want to be in. You better hire some actors
[28:55] Speaker 1: off Craigslist or something and make this real. You better
[28:57] Speaker 1: be in a boardroom. You better give me some selling sunset.
[28:59] Speaker 1: I want to see Christine and some heels with her
[29:02] Speaker 1: titties out, you know, touring the States. Yep. And, like,
[29:06] Speaker 1: who did they make the check out to? Was it Rashida? Yes. Like,
[29:09] Speaker 1: his name is on the check?
[29:10] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[29:11] Speaker 1: Red flag numero uno. But he's preying on people who
[29:13] Speaker 1: don't know anybody. And that's the only way. He's also
[29:15] Speaker 1: new to this country.
[29:16] Speaker 2: Right.
[29:17] Speaker 1: So he's telling them, this is how America works.
[29:19] Speaker 2: And I can also understand that, too, because I recently
[29:21] Speaker 2: watched Real Housewives of Dubai because I.
[29:24] Speaker 1: Was just curious. I was like, what the? Because there
[29:26] Speaker 1: were so many black women on that show. And I
[29:27] Speaker 1: was like, what are we doing over there? I hate Dubai.
[29:31] Speaker 1: It's the worst place in the world. I always describe
[29:33] Speaker 1: it as a city made by rappers. And also it's
[29:35] Speaker 1: like it depends on slave labor so much. So many slaves. Yeah.
[29:39] Speaker 1: They take your passport and you can't go nowhere. Yeah. No.
[29:42] Speaker 1: It's bad. Don't get me started. And it's like very,
[29:45] Speaker 1: very rich people and then very, very poor people. And
[29:47] Speaker 1: no one in between. No one in between. And if
[29:49] Speaker 1: you look at the aesthetic... Like, the buildings and everything.
[29:53] Speaker 1: So dear. It's so gaudy.
[29:55] Speaker 2: And it's like, why you got to have the biggest everything?
[29:57] Speaker 2: And it just seems so contrived. Like, of course I
[30:00] Speaker 2: could have the world's biggest mall if I'm going to
[30:02] Speaker 2: put the world's.
[30:03] Speaker 1: Biggest swimming pool inside of it and the world's museum.
[30:06] Speaker 1: You don't need all of this. It's just... Like, where's
[30:08] Speaker 1: the nature? Why are y'all paying millions of dollars for
[30:12] Speaker 1: a driver's plate? Like, a driver's license. Like, the actual plate.
[30:17] Speaker 1: So if you want.
[30:17] Speaker 2: So apparently the lower the number of your plate, the
[30:20] Speaker 2: more money you have. So if you got plate number one,
[30:23] Speaker 2: you the richest motherfucking Dubai. Oh, no.
[30:26] Speaker 1: Yeah. That's crazy.
[30:27] Speaker 2: But you would pay for that kind of weird status.
[30:29] Speaker 2: This is like people who have too much money and
[30:31] Speaker 2: not enough to do with it. But over there, you
[30:33] Speaker 2: can't purchase property without like living there for a certain
[30:38] Speaker 2: amount of time or having like there's certain like things.
[30:41] Speaker 1: There's a lot of countries like that, too. There's a
[30:42] Speaker 1: lot of brokerage. You can't just own property. I wish
[30:45] Speaker 1: we were like that. America's for sale, baby. We like you.
[30:47] Speaker 1: Come on. Anybody can come. Yep. It's true. Take all
[30:51] Speaker 1: our industry away.
[30:51] Speaker 2: That's why we don't make anything anymore. And then everybody's like, well,
[30:55] Speaker 2: what are we going to do as a country? And
[30:56] Speaker 2: it's like, we let everybody take everything from us, which, honestly,
[30:59] Speaker 2: kind of poetic.
[31:00] Speaker 1: But, I mean, not going to lie. It's karma swift. Right.
[31:06] Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like being in it. I wish
[31:08] Speaker 1: I wasn't in it. But here we are.
[31:11] Speaker 2: So, yeah, I can understand what they're doing. I'm not
[31:12] Speaker 2: trying to victim blame here. I'm definitely not laughing at
[31:14] Speaker 2: the victims at all. I really feel bad for these
[31:16] Speaker 2: people just trying to get a home. But I'm also like,
[31:19] Speaker 2: come on, in the future, everybody, if you're listening to
[31:21] Speaker 2: this and you're in an immigrant community, I don't care
[31:23] Speaker 2: if there's a real estate mogul in your neighborhood. Like
[31:25] Speaker 2: you better be going everywhere with him and you better
[31:27] Speaker 2: not give any money to anybody other than the person
[31:30] Speaker 2: that you're purchasing a home from.
[31:31] Speaker 1: That's how real estate works. They're supposed to get a percentage.
[31:33] Speaker 1: They're never supposed to get money from you. Right.
[31:35] Speaker 2: You don't pay anybody directly. You also do look him up.
[31:39] Speaker 2: Like I would have wanted to know what his own
[31:41] Speaker 2: real estate portfolio was and what does that look like?
[31:44] Speaker 2: So I would have went to Acris and pulled, I
[31:46] Speaker 2: don't know what, if they have, I don't, I think
[31:48] Speaker 2: it's a New York thing. And so any dude I'm
[31:51] Speaker 2: fucking with who like I own a house, I'm like,
[31:54] Speaker 2: Let me put the name in. I'm looking at the deeds.
[31:57] Speaker 2: I'm looking to see if you actually bought it. I'm
[31:59] Speaker 2: looking to just, I need to understand the paperwork because
[32:01] Speaker 2: the math needs to match.
[32:02] Speaker 1: Because unless you buy it in a trust, it's public record. Right,
[32:05] Speaker 1: unless it's a trust. Mm-hmm.
[32:06] Speaker 2: And a lot of people make that mistake who are
[32:08] Speaker 2: public figures and buy things in their names and don't
[32:09] Speaker 2: realize then, you know, TMZ is driving past your house.
[32:12] Speaker 2: And that's where, like, I've been with friends who work
[32:15] Speaker 2: in TV and, like, been at their house and the
[32:16] Speaker 2: TMZ truck is driving past us, like, and that's where
[32:19] Speaker 2: she lives. I'm like, okay, you need to sell this one.
[32:23] Speaker 2: You got to put it in an LLC or some
[32:24] Speaker 2: other name, but, yeah. Yeah, your lawyer's name, something, not yours.
[32:30] Speaker 2: But that's the lesson that people have to learn sometimes.
[32:32] Speaker 2: Part of me wonders if there is like a flex
[32:35] Speaker 2: aspect to this, because Rashidun is known as this real
[32:39] Speaker 2: estate mogul, but he hasn't really produced any real estate
[32:42] Speaker 2: for these nine parties that have invested with him. So
[32:45] Speaker 2: I'm wondering if these people are also, you know, like
[32:48] Speaker 2: at the Bangladesh function, they're gahlud and they're like, oh,
[32:51] Speaker 2: you know, I just invested with Rashidun too. We gave
[32:53] Speaker 2: him $ 200, 000. We gave him $ 191, 000. I'm up to a million,
[32:57] Speaker 2: you know, like. like they want to flex on other
[33:00] Speaker 2: people in the community oh because also having this much
[33:03] Speaker 2: disposable income on you is kind of crazy well see
[33:07] Speaker 2: I don't I just have so many more questions like
[33:11] Speaker 2: For that family and the daughter in the basement, was
[33:14] Speaker 2: the $ 191, 000 given at one time or is it like
[33:18] Speaker 2: over time?
[33:19] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[33:19] Speaker 2: Like he keeps asking for more money for this and
[33:22] Speaker 2: for that and he's just siphoning it from them.
[33:24] Speaker 1: I think that's.
[33:25] Speaker 2: Definitely probably what happened just because of Aslam's situation where
[33:28] Speaker 2: he started with.
[33:29] Speaker 1: $ 200, 000 and it ended up being a million. One million, right. Yeah.
[33:33] Speaker 2: And that's also a good strategy, too, to get people
[33:37] Speaker 2: out to part with their money. It's like, oh, there's
[33:39] Speaker 2: the other fees and now we got licensing and, you know,
[33:42] Speaker 2: he's just making up American stuff.
[33:43] Speaker 1: That's not real. They always move the goalposts.
[33:45] Speaker 2: Because if he wants to ask Aslam for a million
[33:47] Speaker 2: dollars off RIP, he's like, no, I'm not giving you
[33:49] Speaker 2: a million or I need to seal these paperwork.
[33:51] Speaker 1: Right.
[33:52] Speaker 2: If it's just a small amount, then I can slowly...
[33:55] Speaker 2: 50K here. Like, oh, we got to get it up
[33:58] Speaker 2: to code. That's going to be another 30K. Like, this
[34:00] Speaker 2: is how it works in America.
[34:01] Speaker 1: He's a grifter.
[34:02] Speaker 2: And I would believe him when he told me this
[34:04] Speaker 2: is how it works in America because we are the
[34:06] Speaker 2: land of the scams.
[34:07] Speaker 1: So... I'm sure it does in some facets. You know
[34:10] Speaker 1: what I mean?
[34:11] Speaker 2: You could be in a place, like, making money, and
[34:12] Speaker 2: the next thing you know, the city councilman comes to
[34:14] Speaker 2: shake you down.
[34:15] Speaker 1: The way you said that was, like, it happened to you. Like,
[34:20] Speaker 1: there was a little bit of, like, you knew that
[34:22] Speaker 1: on an intimate level. Like, do you want these permits?
[34:25] Speaker 1: Trying to film this podcast? Or not. Yeah.
[34:29] Speaker 2: So the house never materialized, right? And Rashad, or Rashidun,
[34:33] Speaker 2: he blames COVID and all of this stuff. Prosecutors say
[34:36] Speaker 2: Rashidun used the stolen money to pay off mortgages, personal expenses,
[34:41] Speaker 2: and to buy an apartment in Woodside in his wife
[34:44] Speaker 2: Jasmine's name.
[34:46] Speaker 1: Jasmine of the Jasmine House. Mm-hmm. So, different pockets in
[34:51] Speaker 1: the same pair of pants.
[34:52] Speaker 2: Rushy Dunn and Jasmine bought, sold, and transferred at least
[34:57] Speaker 2: six properties across Queens over the past two decades, often
[35:01] Speaker 2: within their family and sometimes for no money at all.
[35:04] Speaker 1: They included, like, the.
[35:05] Speaker 2: Colorful Astoria house that we saw and another multifamily building
[35:09] Speaker 2: in Jamaica, Queens that Jasmine is currently selling for $ 2.
[35:12] Speaker 1: 599 million. Jasmine, why are you not in jail, too? Right.
[35:18] Speaker 1: Why are you giving tours on Corcoran's TikTok? Right. But
[35:22] Speaker 1: also at the same time, I love a woman getting
[35:24] Speaker 1: away with a scam. Yeah, see your husband in jail.
[35:28] Speaker 1: Put a little money out of his books. She got
[35:29] Speaker 1: possible deniability. I had no idea that's what he was doing.
[35:32] Speaker 1: I had no idea. He the man. He bring home
[35:34] Speaker 1: the money. He told me to sign the paperwork. I
[35:36] Speaker 1: love it.
[35:37] Speaker 2: So public records show that homes were passed between Jasmine,
[35:40] Speaker 2: her sister-in-law, Jabui. Why is everybody in this?
[35:44] Speaker 1: The whole family. Jubaida.
[35:48] Speaker 2: And Tanny Fashion, which is a corporation the married couple used,
[35:53] Speaker 2: especially for real estate transactions. I'm sorry, I'm not doing
[35:56] Speaker 2: no transaction with nothing called Tanny Fashion.
[35:59] Speaker 1: Right. Maybe it's a cultural thing. I don't know about Tanny.
[36:01] Speaker 1: It's the fashion that really threw me. If you fashion,
[36:03] Speaker 1: why are we doing real estate? Why are we doing
[36:05] Speaker 1: real estate? Sounds like you've got your scams mixed up. Right.
[36:08] Speaker 1: So the sister-in-law first purchased the Jamaica property in 2008,
[36:11] Speaker 1: then transferred ownership to Jasmine a day later for $ 0.
[36:16] Speaker 1: You see? Skimming laundering. Right. Five years later, Jasmine sold
[36:20] Speaker 1: the building to Tani Fashion for $ 660, 000, then transferred ownership
[36:26] Speaker 1: back to herself in 2017 for $ 0. So there's also
[36:30] Speaker 1: some tax evasion happening here. Rashida bought the Astoria house
[36:34] Speaker 1: in 1999 and then transferred the ownership to Jasmine, who
[36:37] Speaker 1: sold it to the sister-in-law in 2008 for $ 805, 000.
[36:41] Speaker 2: Five days after that, the sister-in-law transferred the ownership back
[36:45] Speaker 2: to Jasmine. They reversed the process in 2014 and then
[36:48] Speaker 2: again in April 2025. According to public records, no money
[36:52] Speaker 2: ever changed hands. They just kept buying properties and transferring
[36:56] Speaker 2: them and buying them and transferring them to the cousin,
[36:58] Speaker 2: to the homie, tiny fashion, back to Jasmine. So a
[37:02] Speaker 2: forensic accountant described moving property ownership around this way like
[37:07] Speaker 2: using different pockets in the same pair of pants. which
[37:09] Speaker 2: helps obscure who actually owns things. So it's like, oh,
[37:13] Speaker 2: does Jasmine own it?
[37:14] Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. Actually, Tani owns it.
[37:17] Speaker 2: Actually, Tani sold it back to Rashida the other day,
[37:20] Speaker 2: so we don't know who.
[37:21] Speaker 1: So now you can't even track who owns the property.
[37:25] Speaker 1: The wheels in my head are turning. Same.
[37:29] Speaker 2: So the Bangladeshi community in Queens, more than 100,000 people
[37:33] Speaker 2: from Bangladesh live in New York City, with many concentrated
[37:36] Speaker 2: in the Jamaica and Ozone Park neighborhoods in Queens. Of
[37:40] Speaker 2: the people Rashidun scammed, some can't afford lawyers. Others are
[37:45] Speaker 2: embarrassed that they lost their life savings, and many just
[37:48] Speaker 2: don't want to approach law enforcement at all right now because,
[37:52] Speaker 2: you know, according to experts, the current fear of immigration
[37:56] Speaker 2: and customs enforcement, ICE, is making scams in immigrant communities
[38:00] Speaker 2: more powerful.
[38:01] Speaker 1: That's so fucked up.
[38:03] Speaker 2: So now immigrants are, like, scared that they're going to
[38:05] Speaker 2: get deported if they call the cops, which, I mean,
[38:08] Speaker 2: the cops... I get scared if I have to call.
[38:10] Speaker 2: I don't call the cops if I have to. If
[38:12] Speaker 2: somebody's dying or there's an accident on the street or
[38:14] Speaker 2: something like that, I don't do the bystander effect. I'll
[38:16] Speaker 2: call or whatever. But call them to come to me.
[38:19] Speaker 2: I've had that done before. If you've read my book
[38:21] Speaker 2: and they definitely turned on me and I.
[38:23] Speaker 1: Was like, I called you. All the time. All the time. Yes.
[38:27] Speaker 2: So I understand them not calling the police. So fear
[38:31] Speaker 2: of ICE was keeping people silent. And so was embarrassment,
[38:34] Speaker 2: which we always say on the show, it's not as
[38:36] Speaker 2: There's no shame in being scammed. We can all be scammed.
[38:38] Speaker 2: We all have a vulnerability. Somebody could definitely get me.
[38:41] Speaker 2: Somebody's definitely got me.
[38:43] Speaker 1: Here we are. So even if.
[38:46] Speaker 2: They were legal and naturalized or naturalized American citizens from
[38:50] Speaker 2: immigrant families and they're here, they've done nothing wrong. They
[38:53] Speaker 2: still don't want to call the police because we know
[38:54] Speaker 2: that ICE is deporting anybody brown.
[38:57] Speaker 1: If you around and brown, we take you downtown.
[38:59] Speaker 2: Yeah. That's what they're saying, actually. I think that's the motto.
[39:03] Speaker 2: I think that's it. That's what they teach you at
[39:04] Speaker 2: the academy. If you're around and brown.
[39:06] Speaker 1: Yeah. If you see them and they're around and they're brown,
[39:08] Speaker 1: take them downtown. Take them downtown. Which is fucked.
[39:11] Speaker 2: So they still have properties listed for sale. Both the
[39:15] Speaker 2: Astoria and the Jamaica properties in Jasmine's name are still
[39:18] Speaker 2: for sale today, but they are under a $ 1. 5 million
[39:24] Speaker 2: lien that was placed by the U.S. Attorney's Office. Equal
[39:27] Speaker 2: to the restitution, Rashidun was ordered to pay to his victims.
[39:30] Speaker 2: If they do sell, he may be forced to pay
[39:33] Speaker 2: people back. But for now, because Jasmine legally owns the
[39:37] Speaker 2: Astoria and Jamaica houses, she's not under any obligation to
[39:41] Speaker 2: pay her husband's legal penalties. So now, now we circle
[39:45] Speaker 2: back to why they don't, like, selling it to you,
[39:48] Speaker 2: buying it from you, giving it to me for zero dollars. Tanning, fashion,
[39:52] Speaker 2: you know, Rashida, Jasmine. This is all so they could
[39:55] Speaker 2: avoid liability, traceability, and now restitution.
[40:02] Speaker 1: Which is wild. They are so trifling. Wow.
[40:05] Speaker 2: So the asking price for the most colorful house in
[40:08] Speaker 2: Queens was reduced to $ 2.
[40:09] Speaker 1: 5 million in September. Rashidon is scheduled to be released
[40:12] Speaker 1: from prison in 2028. Wow. I just feel like... And
[40:19] Speaker 1: tell me what you think about this first. This scam.
[40:25] Speaker 1: It kind of feels like it worked a little bit.
[40:27] Speaker 2: I mean, he got the money, right? It feels like
[40:30] Speaker 2: it worked. Yeah, he had to do a bid. But
[40:33] Speaker 2: his wife is out. His wife is, yeah. And also,
[40:36] Speaker 2: does it seem like he was in jail for that long?
[40:38] Speaker 1: No.
[40:39] Speaker 2: Like, if he's going to be home in 2028, they're
[40:42] Speaker 2: selling all this property. Jasmine's on TikTok selling the stuff. Like,
[40:47] Speaker 2: they can get money from this. And when he comes out,
[40:49] Speaker 2: they're going to be up again. And they can just
[40:51] Speaker 2: move to the next community and do it again. Yeah,
[40:54] Speaker 2: I wonder where they live now. Because I feel like
[40:56] Speaker 2: they can't live in the same Queens community. They've got
[40:59] Speaker 2: to be social pariahs, right?
[41:01] Speaker 1: Who knows, honestly.
[41:02] Speaker 2: Because, you know, sometimes, too, in, like, these immigrant communities,
[41:06] Speaker 2: they protect people who.
[41:07] Speaker 1: Are, like, predators in other ways. Yeah, that's true. And
[41:11] Speaker 1: so I just think there's— I feel like every community
[41:13] Speaker 1: does that. Every community does.
[41:15] Speaker 2: So I think that— I think that, who knows? It might
[41:17] Speaker 2: be a culture of we don't talk about it, that
[41:19] Speaker 2: we whisper and we might be fake polite, but we're
[41:22] Speaker 2: not— I don't know.
[41:23] Speaker 1: That's true.
[41:24] Speaker 2: And it feels like these people have a lot of audacity.
[41:27] Speaker 2: So and even in the descriptors of some of the
[41:29] Speaker 2: victims saying that they didn't want to call the police,
[41:31] Speaker 2: whether it be for ice, whether it be for the
[41:33] Speaker 2: shame that they got scammed or maybe just like socially
[41:36] Speaker 2: not wanting to be, you know, maybe not wanting to
[41:40] Speaker 2: reveal that you've given your finances away.
[41:42] Speaker 1: And so now people know you're broke. Yeah. You got
[41:46] Speaker 1: a good point there.
[41:48] Speaker 2: I mean, this is one of the scams that kind
[41:50] Speaker 2: of turns my stomach a little bit because I don't
[41:52] Speaker 2: feel like justice was served. He's not serving enough time
[41:54] Speaker 2: in jail. And these people will probably never get their
[41:57] Speaker 2: money back. And that's the big thing with these scams.
[41:59] Speaker 2: It's like there are actual victims and they may never,
[42:03] Speaker 2: ever get... They may never get their money back, which
[42:05] Speaker 2: is crazy. Because like you were saying before... with the
[42:09] Speaker 2: fake celebrity apology, what does that actually do for us? Like,
[42:15] Speaker 2: Rashida going to jail doesn't give me my money back.
[42:18] Speaker 1: Right. Right.
[42:19] Speaker 2: That's why they should have restorative justice. That's why Rashida...
[42:24] Speaker 2: The family should be like, you still here? Here's how
[42:27] Speaker 2: you work it off. I need my back scratched. Every
[42:29] Speaker 2: night I need my lawn tilled. Like, you got to
[42:33] Speaker 2: work this off. You working my laundromat now, Rashida. Now
[42:36] Speaker 2: it's indentured servitude.
[42:38] Speaker 1: No shade.
[42:39] Speaker 2: But, like, we talking about the slaves in Dubai, which
[42:42] Speaker 2: is crazy that they're taking people's passports. But that shit
[42:45] Speaker 2: should be relegated to people who have debts to serve
[42:48] Speaker 2: and who have restitutions to pay and they're never going
[42:50] Speaker 2: to make their victims whole.
[42:51] Speaker 1: Like, my family owns you now, Rashida. Rashida. Jasmine, y'all
[42:55] Speaker 1: better write these jokes. You can't give white people no
[42:57] Speaker 1: ideas because now they're going to be for restorative justice.
[42:59] Speaker 1: I believe in restorative justice. They're already putting us in
[43:02] Speaker 1: prison and making us slaves. We'd just be outside slaves.
[43:05] Speaker 2: You know this would immediately become something terrible. Yeah, but
[43:07] Speaker 2: I think restorative justice is actually truly rehabilitative. Yes, if
[43:10] Speaker 2: it was done correctly. If it was done, we don't
[43:12] Speaker 2: do anything right. But we know that in this country,
[43:13] Speaker 2: everything is bastardized immediately. Because, no, restorative justice in its
[43:18] Speaker 2: essence and in itself, when it's executed with checks and
[43:20] Speaker 2: balances and oversight, is absolutely what should be done. Like,
[43:24] Speaker 2: making people slaves in prison and then, like, institutionalizing them. Yeah,
[43:26] Speaker 2: why they gotta be slaves in the prison? Make them
[43:28] Speaker 2: be a slave in the lady basement. who she stole
[43:31] Speaker 2: with the daughter, and then make him work off his
[43:33] Speaker 2: debt to those families.
[43:35] Speaker 1: Right.
[43:36] Speaker 2: Or, like, at least he needs to be working a
[43:37] Speaker 2: job where, you know, he has room and board, but
[43:40] Speaker 2: then everything else that he makes.
[43:41] Speaker 1: Goes to the families. No, you don't get room and board.
[43:44] Speaker 1: That's a luxury. He gotta sleep and eat somewhere so
[43:46] Speaker 1: he can go to the job. He don't have to.
[43:49] Speaker 1: I know housing is a human right, but scamming is not.
[43:52] Speaker 1: So sorry. How he gonna get to work if he...
[43:54] Speaker 1: I don't know. Figure it out, bro.
[43:57] Speaker 2: You got seven chandeliers. You got plastic-covered couches. Grab one
[44:01] Speaker 2: of them shits.
[44:02] Speaker 1: Yeah. You need to sell everything in there. Also, I
[44:05] Speaker 1: don't know if these houses are ever gonna sell. They're hideous.
[44:08] Speaker 2: And like you said, the refraction of the light, like,
[44:11] Speaker 2: it's gonna keep that place hot. It's the worst thing
[44:13] Speaker 2: I've ever seen. There was not enough AC in there
[44:14] Speaker 2: to keep it cool. You know it's crazy in there.
[44:16] Speaker 1: Nobody's buying that house. Also, 2.5 million in Queens? Mm-hmm. Babes.
[44:23] Speaker 1: That's a house in L.A. We are in L.A., though.
[44:26] Speaker 2: So much of real estate is location, to be honest.
[44:28] Speaker 1: I know, but that's what I'm saying. So location-wise, the
[44:32] Speaker 1: story of it all is like, Babes, what are we
[44:35] Speaker 1: talking about? What are we talking about? I know if
[44:37] Speaker 1: you're from Queens, you're going to beat my ass after
[44:39] Speaker 1: this episode. I am so sorry. Come after Lacey directly. No,
[44:42] Speaker 1: this was Carrie. I love everyone in Queens. Carrie was
[44:45] Speaker 1: hating on Queens. You are a queen.
[44:48] Speaker 2: I love Astoria and all the famous people from Queens.
[44:54] Speaker 2: But I don't know any famous people from Astoria. There
[44:57] Speaker 2: are a lot of famous people from Queens. Nicki Minaj
[44:59] Speaker 2: is from Queens. Nas is from Queens.
[45:01] Speaker 1: You got to name a good one. 50 Cent is
[45:03] Speaker 1: from Queens. LL Cool J is from Queens. LL Cool J!
[45:05] Speaker 1: I only know musicians. I love LL Cool J. LL
[45:09] Speaker 1: Cool J is from Queens and we love him. He
[45:12] Speaker 1: done done some stuff. Oh yeah, he has done some stuff.
[45:14] Speaker 1: It's so hard. He's from Queens. Everyone from Queens has
[45:17] Speaker 1: done stuff. Yeah, but LL Cool J is great. We
[45:19] Speaker 1: love LL Cool J. And I love him. Yeah, ladies
[45:21] Speaker 1: love Queens. We got to find some more Queens people.
[45:27] Speaker 1: I'll think about it.
[45:28] Speaker 2: Y'all list some famous Queens people along with y'all's daddy's
[45:31] Speaker 2: names in the comments because we need to know.
[45:35] Speaker 1: Now, before I let you go, Carrie, I need to
[45:39] Speaker 1: talk to you about something. Something that happened on an
[45:42] Speaker 1: airplane not too long ago. There was a woman going
[45:48] Speaker 1: on a bachelorette party, going to enjoy her life. Oh. Oh,
[45:52] Speaker 1: you know?
[45:53] Speaker 2: Yes. But this woman is excited to go on her
[45:55] Speaker 2: bachelorette party. And you know when you are walking to the,
[46:00] Speaker 2: what is it called?
[46:01] Speaker 1: The gate. Yeah. So before you go to the gate.
[46:04] Speaker 1: We fly. We travel. It's called the gate. Yeah, the gate.
[46:06] Speaker 2: Before you get on the jet bridge, you know, there
[46:10] Speaker 2: is a check-in. Again, so you have to scan your
[46:13] Speaker 2: boarding pass. Or if it's international, you have to scan
[46:15] Speaker 2: your boarding pass and show your passport. Or they, you know,
[46:17] Speaker 2: have the scary technology where they look at your face.
[46:20] Speaker 2: Whatever the case may be. This woman, she's excited about
[46:23] Speaker 2: her bachelor trip.
[46:24] Speaker 1: She puts her wallet down for a second, probably to
[46:26] Speaker 1: pull out her ID or, you know, grab her boarding pass.
[46:29] Speaker 1: And then she heads down the jet bridge. And then
[46:32] Speaker 1: she realizes, oh, my gosh, I left my wallet somewhere.
[46:36] Speaker 1: So she's checking all over the plane. She's checking her purse. Like,
[46:38] Speaker 1: there's enough time where she's boarding.
[46:40] Speaker 2: That's how I know she was excited because I board
[46:42] Speaker 2: planes like I'm Michelle Obama. Like, I want to walk
[46:45] Speaker 2: on the tarmac and get on the plane. I'm going
[46:47] Speaker 2: to be late as hell.
[46:50] Speaker 1: You're the last one. I've been the last one on
[46:52] Speaker 1: the plane so many times. Yeah. I didn't hold it up.
[46:55] Speaker 1: I mean, they was going to leave without me. Do
[46:57] Speaker 1: I got a little bead of sweat on me when
[46:59] Speaker 1: I get down?
[46:59] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[46:59] Speaker 1: You're hilarious. Yes. Have I gotten in a golf cart
[47:02] Speaker 1: many times in the airport? It was like straight away.
[47:04] Speaker 2: I always go on first because they go, do you
[47:07] Speaker 2: need more time? And yes, I always need more time. No,
[47:09] Speaker 2: I go on first and they still don't do that.
[47:11] Speaker 2: All it means is that I'm going to miss the
[47:13] Speaker 2: champagne serving.
[47:14] Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, sometimes I get bummed about that because
[47:17] Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I didn't get my shanty. I now
[47:18] Speaker 1: got to wait until we're in the air. I got
[47:20] Speaker 1: to wait 35,000 feet.
[47:21] Speaker 2: So, yeah, she's looking and I guess there's enough time
[47:23] Speaker 2: for her to get off of the plane and look
[47:27] Speaker 2: outside of the plane.
[47:28] Speaker 1: She's like, I know I have my wallet because I
[47:29] Speaker 1: pulled my ID out of my wallet.
[47:31] Speaker 2: To get on this flight. So she goes back to
[47:34] Speaker 2: the counter and there's no wallet to be found. Then
[47:38] Speaker 2: she's like, huh, well, it has to be on the
[47:40] Speaker 2: plane because there's nowhere else it could be. And I
[47:43] Speaker 2: looked through all my things and it's not there. So
[47:45] Speaker 2: she tells the flight attendants, hey, I don't know where
[47:47] Speaker 2: my wallet is. And there was a lovely woman on.
[47:51] Speaker 1: The flight who was like, hey, did your wallet look like, was.
[47:54] Speaker 2: It like a long, thin Louis Vuitton wallet? And she
[47:57] Speaker 2: was like, yeah, that was my wallet. And she said, okay,
[48:00] Speaker 2: I saw someone pick it up. She said it was
[48:03] Speaker 2: a woman with dark curly hair and she was white.
[48:07] Speaker 2: She was wearing chunky black Converse. Like she described her like-
[48:11] Speaker 2: The whole description, wow. I was like, girl, you need
[48:13] Speaker 2: to be like, Like, I've always thought whenever I watch
[48:18] Speaker 2: Law & Order SVU, when they give the description of
[48:20] Speaker 2: the criminal, I'm like, I can barely remember, like, the
[48:22] Speaker 2: things that, like, where my car is parked in a
[48:25] Speaker 2: parking garage when I go to the mall.
[48:27] Speaker 1: How are you remembering a full description of somebody? You
[48:29] Speaker 1: got to stay woke, Lacey. I know. I've been trying
[48:31] Speaker 1: to be more alert. We gotta talk about it. I'll
[48:35] Speaker 1: be looking right and left. I'll be trying.
[48:37] Speaker 2: Keep your head on a swivel.
[48:43] Speaker 1: It hurts. My neck is stabbed. Scams!
[48:50] Speaker 2: But I'm also wondering, like, the logistics. So you stole
[48:55] Speaker 2: the wallet. You took the cash out. You put the
[48:58] Speaker 2: cash someplace else. Then put the wallet into your carry-on. Like,
[49:02] Speaker 2: I'm also just so confused. Because the wallet is worth
[49:04] Speaker 2: money as well. Because it's a designer wallet.
[49:06] Speaker 1: Right.
[49:06] Speaker 2: So I think she was like, I already got my
[49:08] Speaker 2: own wallet. But this designer one, I'm going to put
[49:09] Speaker 2: this on Poshmark later. So I'm just going to throw
[49:11] Speaker 2: this in my bag. So many steps she had to
[49:13] Speaker 2: go through. Yeah.
[49:13] Speaker 1: So she took the cash out.
[49:15] Speaker 2: And so she must have been fiddling around doing this
[49:18] Speaker 2: while the commotion was going on.
[49:19] Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not on the plane. We were not boarding.
[49:22] Speaker 1: What's going on? I feel like we were on the plane.
[49:24] Speaker 1: We were not on Frontier. I don't know, we were
[49:25] Speaker 1: not on Frontier, but, you know, we were there in spirit.
[49:29] Speaker 1: Not on Spirit either. We were also not on Spirit.
[49:32] Speaker 1: We were not.
[49:33] Speaker 2: Listen, I don't read classes. I tried to take Spirit
[49:36] Speaker 2: back in the day. When I say tried, it's because
[49:38] Speaker 2: they would pull off like a Greyhound bus sometimes. They
[49:39] Speaker 2: would leave early. They just shout your name, and if
[49:41] Speaker 2: you weren't there, they was like... No, Spirit was reliable
[49:44] Speaker 2: back in the day. I had a little booth thing
[49:45] Speaker 2: in Atlanta. I used to go back and forth all
[49:47] Speaker 2: the time. And Spirit always landed safely, okay? Can't say
[49:50] Speaker 2: that about Frontier. Can't say that about America. Can't say
[49:52] Speaker 2: that about Delta.
[49:52] Speaker 1: But Spirit, you would get... You would land. You would
[49:54] Speaker 1: get there.
[49:55] Speaker 2: That was their brand. You gon' land, okay? Anything in between,
[49:59] Speaker 2: we don't know. But you go ahead. What also struck me, too,
[50:02] Speaker 2: is that when they were like, oh, there's money in
[50:05] Speaker 2: the wallet, she was also being hesitant about giving the
[50:09] Speaker 2: money back.
[50:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, she was.
[50:10] Speaker 2: Like, the privilege that she had through this whole experience. Like,
[50:13] Speaker 2: we talk about robbery. It's in the theme song of
[50:14] Speaker 2: this show. And I haven't talked about a robbery in
[50:16] Speaker 2: a while. But this is the stupidest fucking robbery I've
[50:18] Speaker 2: seen in a long time. Why are you robbing someone
[50:21] Speaker 2: at the airport?
[50:22] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[50:24] Speaker 2: With a T and an S in the air? She
[50:25] Speaker 2: almost got away with it, though. She almost got away
[50:27] Speaker 2: with it.
[50:28] Speaker 1: Did she?
[50:28] Speaker 2: If somebody didn't give her that description, like, she, like,
[50:34] Speaker 2: and then, yeah, she, I mean. And she's also lucky
[50:37] Speaker 2: that this black woman, because I watched this and I
[50:39] Speaker 2: was infuriated.
[50:40] Speaker 1: She got the right black.
[50:42] Speaker 2: But she got a black woman who was so composed
[50:44] Speaker 2: and so nice and so sweet that everybody.
[50:45] Speaker 1: Was like, we got to help this baby. You know,
[50:48] Speaker 1: because I feel like if the black woman had been angry,
[50:50] Speaker 1: even though she would have rightfully so, like, rightfully to
[50:53] Speaker 1: be angry, right? Mm-hmm.
[50:55] Speaker 2: They would have been like, oh, she's aggressive. And that's
[50:57] Speaker 2: what that white woman was hoping for. She was hoping
[50:59] Speaker 2: for her to get angry.
[51:00] Speaker 1: Meanwhile, I also watched another black woman who was sitting
[51:02] Speaker 1: in the first row, the one with the red curly hair.
[51:07] Speaker 1: She hopped up out of her seat and careened over
[51:09] Speaker 1: the corner and was like, you need your ass beat.
[51:12] Speaker 1: She's right. I said, not the other passengers trying to
[51:15] Speaker 1: whoop ass for you. I wonder what happened to the lady.
[51:18] Speaker 1: She got arrested. She got arrested. I hope so.
[51:21] Speaker 2: And charges will be filed. But the thing is, is
[51:24] Speaker 2: like when you commit a crime and she's also on
[51:26] Speaker 2: the no fly list.
[51:27] Speaker 1: Oh, OK. Yeah. So but my thing is, is in
[51:31] Speaker 1: the airport, if you commit a crime in an airport,
[51:35] Speaker 1: it's no longer a misdemeanor. Right. It's a felony. Yep.
[51:39] Speaker 1: Why would you be doing felonies at the airport? This
[51:44] Speaker 1: is the wrong place to do robbery. It's the wrong place.
[51:46] Speaker 1: It is the wrong place. Like, I would never do anything.
[51:49] Speaker 1: When I go to the airport, I'm quiet. Like, I
[51:51] Speaker 1: walk my head straight.
[51:53] Speaker 2: Honestly, the airport, I don't even know if I want
[51:55] Speaker 2: to say this because y'all might try to try me,
[51:57] Speaker 2: but if you tried me in the airport, you might.
[51:59] Speaker 1: Get away with it. You might get away with it.
[52:02] Speaker 1: Come over, you could trip me. I'd be like, oh,
[52:04] Speaker 1: I must have fell. Come over, do anything. I'd be like, oh.
[52:07] Speaker 2: Like, I'm not getting on nobody's no-fly list. I'm not
[52:10] Speaker 2: being in nobody's TSA jail.
[52:11] Speaker 1: That's wild. That is wild. So, yeah.
[52:15] Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about this because I was just like,
[52:17] Speaker 2: this is not a place to rob people. It's not
[52:19] Speaker 2: a place to rob people. And she almost got away
[52:21] Speaker 2: with it. And I like that somebody was like, did
[52:23] Speaker 2: you check the wallet though? Like, because she was, she
[52:26] Speaker 2: was already back at the gate with the lady's thousand
[52:29] Speaker 2: dollars and a hundred bills in her pocket on her person.
[52:32] Speaker 1: Right. So crazy.
[52:34] Speaker 2: And also maybe that's why that flight attendant to me
[52:36] Speaker 2: was really smart too, because he didn't hand her the wallet.
[52:39] Speaker 2: He held onto the wallet because what if she said
[52:42] Speaker 2: like the, the bachelorette girl said.
[52:44] Speaker 1: Oh, I had a thousand dollars in here. And she
[52:47] Speaker 1: had already taken it out of the wallet and hid
[52:48] Speaker 1: it and was lying about it. You know what I mean? No.
[52:51] Speaker 2: I mean, like, so if the wallet was immediately returned
[52:54] Speaker 2: to the bachelorette girl, and then the bachelorette girl was like,
[52:59] Speaker 2: I also had $ 1, 000 in here. Then it's like, we
[53:01] Speaker 2: wouldn't know if the bachelorette girl took the money. But
[53:03] Speaker 2: since the wallet was transferred to the TSA guy or
[53:06] Speaker 2: the flight attendant, she hadn't even touched her wallet yet.
[53:10] Speaker 1: So if there was money missing... We know she didn't
[53:13] Speaker 1: take it. Got it. You get what I'm saying?
[53:15] Speaker 2: Like, sometimes when people lose something and they put a
[53:17] Speaker 2: reward on it and they get it back, they might.
[53:18] Speaker 1: That's your scammer brain working.
[53:20] Speaker 2: Because I would have never have thought that the lady
[53:22] Speaker 2: who just got her wallet back also just stole her
[53:25] Speaker 2: own money to them. Like, my mind went, okay, make
[53:28] Speaker 2: sure that you undercount this money. Like, that's what my
[53:31] Speaker 2: scammer mind meant. But see, that's still kind of the
[53:32] Speaker 2: same thing. It is, but the way that you did
[53:35] Speaker 2: it is diabolical. You took, like, the craziest route to
[53:38] Speaker 2: her scamming these people. They would have been like, check
[53:40] Speaker 2: the money, and I would have been like, 100, 200, 500?
[53:42] Speaker 1: Oh, no. I had... This is short. I had $ 10, 000
[53:46] Speaker 1: in here. I had a million... I had rubles, bitch.
[53:49] Speaker 1: Where are my rubles? Where's the loose diamonds I had
[53:52] Speaker 1: in here? Exactly. I had a rare Egyptian... They're like, ma'am,
[53:57] Speaker 1: you're on a frontier flight in the middle seat. Be serious. Right.
[54:00] Speaker 1: That part, though. That's how they would have caught me.
[54:04] Speaker 1: That's how they would have caught me. That's how they
[54:06] Speaker 1: would have caught me. Yeah, but like.
[54:09] Speaker 2: Also, just the audacity of this woman and the reluctance
[54:11] Speaker 2: throughout the entire process, that would have got me heated.
[54:14] Speaker 1: I think she handled it pretty well, though. No, I
[54:16] Speaker 1: mean the thief. This is what.
[54:18] Speaker 2: I think the thief handled it well. She said, no,
[54:20] Speaker 2: I didn't have it. They're like, we're going to check
[54:21] Speaker 2: the camera.
[54:22] Speaker 1: She said... she didn't say anything. A bitch like me,
[54:27] Speaker 1: if I had stolen it, I'd have been like, this
[54:29] Speaker 1: is racism. I would have caused, I'd have been so wrong,
[54:33] Speaker 1: but I would have caused such a scene. So I
[54:34] Speaker 1: think she handled it very well.
[54:36] Speaker 2: I didn't like the nuisance of it all because she
[54:39] Speaker 2: had an opportunity to not do this because the black
[54:41] Speaker 2: girl came up to her first and said, someone said
[54:43] Speaker 2: you took my wallet. And I would have been like,
[54:46] Speaker 2: The jig is up at that point. I would have
[54:48] Speaker 2: been like, oh my gosh, yes I did. And I
[54:50] Speaker 2: have it for you right here. I was going to
[54:52] Speaker 2: ask on the plane. You know, I was trying to
[54:54] Speaker 2: be a good Samaritan. I'm trying to get out of this.
[54:56] Speaker 2: If you get caught in a lie, the rule is
[54:58] Speaker 2: to keep lying. That is me lying. I'm being like,
[55:01] Speaker 2: I found a wallet and I thought somebody would need it. Oh,
[55:04] Speaker 2: I'm so glad I caught you.
[55:08] Speaker 1: Here you go. And I'll turn to the corner real
[55:10] Speaker 1: quick with the money back. Here you go. Have a
[55:14] Speaker 1: great Bachelorette. You just took the money out to keep
[55:16] Speaker 1: it safe from the thief. Yeah. Like, I took it out. Yeah.
[55:19] Speaker 1: That's all. Okay.
[55:20] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[55:20] Speaker 1: Then I'm like, sit on down, Bachelorette. You have a
[55:22] Speaker 1: good time. You get you one of those little airplane
[55:24] Speaker 1: gray gooses on me, okay? You know what's hilarious? I'm
[55:27] Speaker 1: not getting a kick about the flight.
[55:28] Speaker 2: We have the same philosophy, but different ways of going
[55:31] Speaker 2: about it. Like, every time, you're like, I would have lied,
[55:34] Speaker 2: but your lie is a different lie than my lie.
[55:36] Speaker 1: No, we're still lying. Yeah, we're still lying. I'm going
[55:39] Speaker 1: to double down. Yeah. We can't tell the truth. No,
[55:42] Speaker 1: you can't. That's not going to help. You can't.
[55:44] Speaker 2: I learned that early as a kid. Like, if you
[55:46] Speaker 2: get caught lying, you don't get points for then being.
[55:49] Speaker 1: Honest about lying. You really don't. Now you're just a liar.
[55:52] Speaker 1: So just don't lie or lie. Okay? Lie. Lie. Believe
[55:58] Speaker 1: your own lie. You in it now. Delusional levels of lying. Right,
[56:02] Speaker 1: because nobody's ever going to think like, oh, well, you're
[56:05] Speaker 1: so great for telling us the truth now. No, you
[56:07] Speaker 1: already lied. You a liar. So you might as well
[56:09] Speaker 1: keep lying. You got to keep lying. Yeah, yeah. We
[56:11] Speaker 1: on the same page. But I'm trying to tell the
[56:12] Speaker 1: lie that's going to keep me on the flight. I'm like, yeah.
[56:15] Speaker 1: I was looking for who this belonged to. I'm glad
[56:17] Speaker 1: I got it back to you. You and your husband,
[56:19] Speaker 1: I hope y'all have great nuptials. Mm-hmm.
[56:21] Speaker 2: I was actually going to have the flight attendant make
[56:23] Speaker 2: an announcement. Yeah, I was waiting for everybody to get planes.
[56:26] Speaker 2: To get sweetie, because there was still more people coming on. Yeah,
[56:28] Speaker 2: so I wanted to be a full announcement. And I
[56:29] Speaker 2: didn't know whose own it was going to be.
[56:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, because we need everybody seated on the plane before
[56:32] Speaker 1: the announcement happens, so then we can make sure we
[56:35] Speaker 1: get it to the right person. Exactly, I just wanted
[56:36] Speaker 1: to make sure.
[56:36] Speaker 2: I was making sure that it landed safely at the
[56:39] Speaker 2: destination that we was all going to. I think she
[56:41] Speaker 2: would have got away with it, because I would have
[56:42] Speaker 2: just been like, you know, She.
[56:42] Speaker 1: Didn't even have no fight in her. She didn't. That's
[56:45] Speaker 1: what I didn't like about her. It's like, oh, you,
[56:47] Speaker 1: I don't know. Is this racial?
[56:48] Speaker 2: Do you think because you robbing a negress that it's
[56:50] Speaker 2: not worth your time to lie to me?
[56:51] Speaker 1: Like, you just went, here, damn. And then close your
[56:54] Speaker 1: bin bag like you still going to fly?
[56:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, the closing of the bin was crazy. I would
[56:58] Speaker 2: have been like, here you go. And I would have
[57:00] Speaker 2: just put the cuffs on. I would have just handed
[57:01] Speaker 2: out my hand like, mm-hmm.
[57:03] Speaker 1: Just do it. Just take me on the purple walk.
[57:06] Speaker 1: You know what?
[57:07] Speaker 2: At least I'm going to give it back. I would have, right,
[57:10] Speaker 2: taken my shit out. And then I would try to
[57:11] Speaker 2: walk off the plane like, I can't make this one. Like,
[57:13] Speaker 2: I'm trying to get the fuck ASAP. Like, maybe they
[57:15] Speaker 2: can't catch me. You ever fake be on the phone
[57:17] Speaker 2: too when you're an awkward moment?
[57:18] Speaker 1: You be like, hold on, guys. Sorry, you know. It's
[57:21] Speaker 1: my daughter. It's my daughter. Yeah, what's up, sweetheart? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like,
[57:25] Speaker 1: do something. Something. Fight back. I had just hated the
[57:28] Speaker 1: disdain that she had. Like, at least lie to me. Like,
[57:30] Speaker 1: come on. Ugh. Ugh. It's terrible. Yes. Well, that brings
[57:34] Speaker 1: us to the end of a great episode, Keri. Aw,
[57:36] Speaker 1: that was so much fun. Thank you for being here.
[57:38] Speaker 1: It was so much fun. Thank you for having me.
[57:40] Speaker 1: Is there anything you'd like to plug? Where can people
[57:42] Speaker 1: find you?
[57:43] Speaker 2: All of the things. I'm doing my one-woman show called
[57:47] Speaker 2: Mudhole in New York City in November, November 4th, at
[57:51] Speaker 2: Ars Nova. It's produced by Lena Waithe. We're doing a talkback. And, um, no,
[57:56] Speaker 2: there's a.
[57:57] Speaker 1: There's a lot of hustling, scheming, and scamming in that.
[57:59] Speaker 2: So if you listen to this, you should come see
[58:01] Speaker 2: my home.
[58:01] Speaker 1: Yes, pull up to the show. You're going to love it.
[58:04] Speaker 1: You know y'all already love Gary. Yes.
[58:06] Speaker 2: And as always, y'all, you can snitch on your friends
[58:08] Speaker 2: and your family and your enemies at ScamGoddessPod at gmail.com.
[58:12] Speaker 1: And, you know, buy my book. Read my book.
[58:14] Speaker 2: All of my scams that are in there, the ones
[58:16] Speaker 2: that I don't cover on the show. You know, you
[58:17] Speaker 2: got to keep some scams a secret, okay?
[58:20] Speaker 1: And hardback.
[58:22] Speaker 2: Yep.
[58:22] Speaker 1: You gotta pay.
[58:23] Speaker 2: And you can watch Scam Goddess on Hulu. All of
[58:26] Speaker 2: the first season is out on Hulu now. You can
[58:28] Speaker 2: watch Going Dutch on Hulu. You can watch my movies
[58:29] Speaker 2: on Netflix. You can go watch me. Put me in
[58:31] Speaker 2: your eyeballs. Watch us on YouTube. Go on Scam Goddess
[58:34] Speaker 2: Pod on Instagram if you want to see the visuals, okay?
[58:38] Speaker 1: Unlike Beyonce, you are not the visuals, okay? You can
[58:40] Speaker 1: go watch the visuals. I'm still mad at that lady
[58:44] Speaker 1: for not giving us those visuals. She won't let us
[58:46] Speaker 1: buy them. She said, were you in the theater? Did
[58:48] Speaker 1: you open your eyes good? Nope.
[58:51] Speaker 2: I went, And we were dancing. We had our fans clacking.
[58:54] Speaker 1: And I was at the concert. Went twice. And was
[58:57] Speaker 1: going to go a third time. Still bought the tickets.
[58:58] Speaker 1: Didn't end up making it. Gave them to my mama.
[59:00] Speaker 1: I'll be giving that lady all my money. Everybody's like,
[59:02] Speaker 1: we doing act three? I'm like, can we wait, guys?
[59:05] Speaker 1: It's like, in this economy. We try to recoup. Right.
[59:08] Speaker 1: Beyonce knows in this economy. Mm-hmm. That's another skim. Oh, sorry.
[59:13] Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. No, no, no, no, no. Whoops. Sometimes
[59:17] Speaker 1: skims are good. Sometimes skims are good, okay? I'll be
[59:19] Speaker 1: giving that lady all my money.
[59:20] Speaker 2: And she know the first and the 15th, okay?
[59:22] Speaker 1: She know when to come in. Right around the 22nd,
[59:25] Speaker 1: when everybody's recouped a little bit, she be like, it's
[59:27] Speaker 1: time for me to take some money from you. Love it.
[59:30] Speaker 2: All right, congregation, I want you to get out there
[59:32] Speaker 2: and be a queen, even if you're an Astoria.

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