# What does Putin want? (E114)

An episode of [The Ancient Art of Modern Warfare](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1478658863), 24 Aug 2025, 8:28.

Audio: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/efznsi3ugjtptgfa/E114_What_Does_Putin_Want.mp3

Although diplomacy should not end when fighting begins, there are two conditions in war where one or more parties will seek to negotiate peace. One is when victory looks improbable, the other is when it looks certain. Which of these conditions is emerging in Ukraine? More importantly, which of these two conditions does Putin perceive as operative? In either condition, is negotiation leading to a sustainable peace realistic? Answering that question requires understanding what Putin really wants from his war, and what he will accept to get out of it. Reference: Samuel Charap, Khrystyna Holynska, Russia’s War Aims in Ukraine, http://www.rand.org/t/RRA2061-6 Music: Holst, “The Planets: Mars Bringer of War,” downloaded from the Internet Archive https://archive.org/details/lp_holst-the-planets_gustav-holst-leopold-stokowski-los-angeles

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