# Legally Brunette Presents: ‘Til Death Do Us Part - Kouri Richins & Alex Murdaugh

An episode of [Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1477524410), 24 May 2026, 21 min.

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Emily and Shane are giving you the latest updates on Kouri Richins, who was sentenced to life in prison on what would have been her husband’s 44th birthday. Her childrens’ victims impact statements may surprise you… Plus, Alex Murdaugh’s double murder convictions have been overturned. What does that mean and how did it happen?! Will a new jury find him not guilty? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: Hi, guys, welcome to an episode of Till Death Do
[0:05] Speaker 1: Us Part. I'll be your host Emily Simpson with my
[0:08] Speaker 1: co host Shane Shane. So before we go into we're
[0:12] Speaker 1: going to talk about a couple things today for Till
[0:14] Speaker 1: Death Do Us Part. First of all, we have to
[0:15] Speaker 1: talk about Corey Richins. We've done episodes on her previously,
[0:19] Speaker 1: so if you have not listened to those, you could
[0:21] Speaker 1: go back and listen.
[0:22] Speaker 2: She is the wife that killed the husband by way
[0:26] Speaker 2: of poisoning, Yes in Utah, right, so she could sell
[0:29] Speaker 2: her book on how to grieve the loss of the parent, right,
[0:32] Speaker 2: it was your children.
[0:33] Speaker 1: That was a perfect summary of Corey Richards. However, we're
[0:37] Speaker 1: going to talk about her again because we're gonna give
[0:39] Speaker 1: a little update because Corey Richards has now been sentenced.
[0:42] Speaker 1: So the previous episodes that we had done, she had
[0:45] Speaker 1: not been sentenced yet pre sentencing, right, So Corey Richins,
[0:49] Speaker 1: we'll just do a little brief background in case you
[0:51] Speaker 1: don't know that much about the case. She was recently
[0:54] Speaker 1: sentenced for the aggravated murder of her husband, Eric Richins.
[0:57] Speaker 1: She fatally poisoned him in March of two, twenty twenty two,
[1:00] Speaker 1: at their home near Park City, Utah, by lacing a
[1:03] Speaker 1: moscow mule with about five times the lethal dose of fentanyl.
[1:07] Speaker 1: And if you listen to earlier episodes or you know
[1:09] Speaker 1: more about this case, this was not the first time
[1:12] Speaker 1: that she tried to poison him. If you remember, she
[1:14] Speaker 1: tried to give him a sandwich on Valentine's Day that
[1:17] Speaker 1: was also lace with fentanyl. But that did not work.
[1:20] Speaker 1: I think he would just got sick, extremely ill from that,
[1:24] Speaker 1: which and then Shane always questions because then he ended
[1:27] Speaker 1: up texting friends right saying something to the effect of,
[1:29] Speaker 1: I think she's trying to kill me. Yet he continues
[1:32] Speaker 1: to stay married to her and continues to eat food
[1:35] Speaker 1: that she gives him.
[1:36] Speaker 2: Right, it's like someone keeps like she keeps firing and
[1:39] Speaker 2: gun at him, and then he gives her some more bullets. Yeah,
[1:42] Speaker 2: it's like run.
[1:44] Speaker 1: Roughly a year after killing him, Corey self publishes a
[1:47] Speaker 1: children's book about children coping with grief titled Are You
[1:51] Speaker 1: with Me? Let's get to the sentencing. So Corey Richans
[1:55] Speaker 1: was sentenced to life in prison on Wednesday, May thirteenth
[1:58] Speaker 1: for the murder of her husband. She was sentenced on
[2:01] Speaker 1: what would have been his forty fourth birthday. So happy
[2:06] Speaker 1: birthday to you, Eric Richins up in heaven, your forty
[2:11] Speaker 1: fourth birthday gift is your ex wife is now being
[2:15] Speaker 1: sentenced to life and pro is his. But when you murder,
[2:20] Speaker 1: I feel like there needs to be another term besides
[2:22] Speaker 1: widow murderer. Yeah, spouse killer yeah. In court there were
[2:30] Speaker 1: victims impact statements. Now she has three boys, and they
[2:33] Speaker 1: made some statements young boys, young boys. The statements were
[2:37] Speaker 1: read by therapists in court. The middle child, who is
[2:41] Speaker 1: identified as AR, told the judge, I don't want you
[2:44] Speaker 1: out of jail because I will not feel safe if
[2:47] Speaker 1: you are out. The youngest w R, who is in
[2:51] Speaker 1: preschool when his father died, said he wanted his mother
[2:54] Speaker 1: to go to jail forever, writing if she got out,
[2:58] Speaker 1: I would be so scared, really mad, and I wouldn't
[3:00] Speaker 1: want to go with her anywhere. He also said he
[3:03] Speaker 1: feels hateful and ashamed when people mentioned his mother, adding
[3:07] Speaker 1: she took away my dad, Eric's sister. Her name's Katie.
[3:12] Speaker 1: She said, today is Eric's birthday. I stand before you
[3:15] Speaker 1: because he can't. He was taken away from my dad,
[3:18] Speaker 1: my sister, his nieces, his friends, our community and worst
[3:20] Speaker 1: of all, from his three amazing sons, he was taken
[3:24] Speaker 1: away from us by a person he should have been
[3:26] Speaker 1: able to trust. Eric's father, Jean, said he asked the
[3:31] Speaker 1: judge for life without parole and described his son as
[3:34] Speaker 1: a devoted father and coach, noting that the youth soccer
[3:37] Speaker 1: team that Eric had coached still breaks every huddle by
[3:41] Speaker 1: chanting one, two three, Eric, Well, that was really sad
[3:46] Speaker 1: that that just made me tear up a little bit.
[3:52] Speaker 1: Judge Richard Razik handed down the maximum since after hearing
[3:58] Speaker 1: the victim's impact state.
[4:00] Speaker 2: You know, those victim impact statements were read obviously in
[4:04] Speaker 2: front of her, but it was nice to see her.
[4:06] Speaker 2: She was get acting shocked, like.
[4:09] Speaker 1: Love me what?
[4:10] Speaker 2: Yeah? And she was and then she like look around
[4:13] Speaker 2: the room as if like can you believe this is
[4:15] Speaker 2: this real?
[4:16] Speaker 1: You know, the worst punishment for me. But I obviously
[4:19] Speaker 1: would never murder anyone, but the fact that I have
[4:22] Speaker 1: three children to be in prison and to never see
[4:26] Speaker 1: my she's not going to see her kids. No one's
[4:27] Speaker 1: going to take her children to visit. I know, I'm
[4:31] Speaker 1: saying she she murdered her husband, that one who's going
[4:35] Speaker 1: to visit her. She she's going to spend the right
[4:37] Speaker 1: the rest of her life in prison and never see
[4:39] Speaker 1: her three her drug.
[4:41] Speaker 2: Dealer test fight against her. She's got no friends.
[4:43] Speaker 1: She's got no friends, not even the drug dealer. So anyway,
[4:47] Speaker 1: that is the sentencing of Corey Richards. So she was
[4:49] Speaker 1: sentenced to life in prison with al pearl. So she's
[4:52] Speaker 1: going nowhere. She's never going to leave prison, and she'll
[4:56] Speaker 1: probably never ever ever see her sons or have any
[4:59] Speaker 1: kind kind of communication with them. Not only did I
[5:11] Speaker 1: receive so many dms from people asking me for asking
[5:14] Speaker 1: us to talk about the crash, but also so many
[5:18] Speaker 1: dms saying you have to talk about the Murdoch case
[5:20] Speaker 1: because the appeal because.
[5:23] Speaker 2: It was a success right for the defendant, right, and it.
[5:26] Speaker 1: Was the conviction was overturned, so he will now have
[5:30] Speaker 1: a new trial. And so so many people were sending
[5:33] Speaker 1: me the articles and dms and saying, can you talk
[5:36] Speaker 1: about this.
[5:36] Speaker 2: Can you explain it? You want to send a deal?
[5:40] Speaker 2: So is he out now? Is he freed?
[5:43] Speaker 1: No, because he's in jail on financial crimes too, it's
[5:45] Speaker 1: not just the murder conviction, so he's not He's never
[5:50] Speaker 1: getting out of prison. The way I understand it. I
[5:53] Speaker 1: think he's been sentenced to He's been sentenced to many,
[5:55] Speaker 1: many years just for the financial crimes. Then the murder convictions.
[6:01] Speaker 2: Good, okay, Yeah.
[6:03] Speaker 1: So Alex Murdoch, the once prominent South Carolina personal injury attorney,
[6:07] Speaker 1: was convicted in March of twenty twenty three of murdering
[6:09] Speaker 1: his wife Maggie and son Paul at the family's hunting
[6:13] Speaker 1: estate in Colton County in June of twenty twenty one.
[6:15] Speaker 1: Do you remember the name of the state, No, Lozelle.
[6:19] Speaker 2: Why would I remember that?
[6:21] Speaker 1: I don't know. I just remember remember I talked about
[6:23] Speaker 1: how I wanted to take a little Lelely Brunette field
[6:25] Speaker 1: trip down there because someone had sent me. Someone had
[6:29] Speaker 1: sent me a DM on Instagram and talked about how
[6:31] Speaker 1: you could actually get because the property was for sale,
[6:34] Speaker 1: and someone had told me that they had visited the
[6:35] Speaker 1: property and that you could actually walk around on those
[6:37] Speaker 1: you know, where they had the hunting cages or kennels
[6:40] Speaker 1: for the dogs, all the hunting dogs, and that's where
[6:42] Speaker 1: he shot the son. So I said I wanted to
[6:46] Speaker 1: go on a Well they re someone.
[6:48] Speaker 2: Bought it and re do you want to go on
[6:50] Speaker 2: a homicide tour.
[6:51] Speaker 1: I want to go on a homicide tour, and that
[6:53] Speaker 1: is definitely one of the spots that I would like
[6:55] Speaker 1: to go to. I also, because I just spent a
[6:57] Speaker 1: week in Ohio, I wanted to go up to Cleeve
[7:00] Speaker 1: area and go to Strongsville. Wasn't there. That's what the crash.
[7:03] Speaker 1: I wanted to visit the I want to see the
[7:06] Speaker 1: wall I wanted to visit. I want to go to
[7:08] Speaker 1: all the places.
[7:09] Speaker 2: Well, I know where to plan our next vacation, Our next,
[7:12] Speaker 2: our next vacation.
[7:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. So Murdoch was sendens the two consecutive
[7:16] Speaker 1: life terms on top of a separate forty year federal
[7:19] Speaker 1: sense for a series of financial crimes when in which
[7:22] Speaker 1: he was stealing millions from clients, his law firm, and
[7:25] Speaker 1: the family of his housekeeper, Gloria Centerfield, who died after
[7:29] Speaker 1: Remember that that mysterious death down the steps after a
[7:33] Speaker 1: fall at the Murdoch home.
[7:34] Speaker 2: Remember the housekeeper.
[7:35] Speaker 1: The housekeeper, Yes, the miss serious fall. The dogs tripped
[7:38] Speaker 1: her legend docued that movie didn't show. Remember she was
[7:45] Speaker 1: in the whole movie. Oh, the timeline was all messed up.
[7:48] Speaker 1: It was it was the Hulu series.
[7:50] Speaker 2: I didn't like that.
[7:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't like that they did that. That was
[7:53] Speaker 1: a reenactment. I thought it was really well done, other
[7:55] Speaker 1: than the fact that Gloria had died years earlier and
[7:58] Speaker 1: then they put her in scenes where she had ourday died.
[8:00] Speaker 1: And that's when you that's when I have your times.
[8:03] Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing anything you're saying. Right
[8:07] Speaker 1: May thirteenth and twenty twenty six, this just happened. The
[8:09] Speaker 1: South Carolina Supreme Court, unanimously, it was five to zero,
[8:13] Speaker 1: overturned Alex Murdoch's murder convictions and ordered a new trial.
[8:18] Speaker 1: The five to zero ruling found that former Colton County
[8:22] Speaker 1: Clerk of Court that is a lot of alliteration.
[8:24] Speaker 2: Say it one more time.
[8:26] Speaker 1: The Colton County Clerk of Court.
[8:31] Speaker 2: In Connecticut for Carolina, Carolinas, her name's Becky.
[8:35] Speaker 1: But if her name was like Crystal, I would just
[8:38] Speaker 1: the Colton County Clerk of Court, Becky Hill, had improperly
[8:43] Speaker 1: influenced the jury during the original trial, and the court
[8:47] Speaker 1: wrote that Hill quote placed her fingers on the scales
[8:51] Speaker 1: of justice, denying Murdoch to his right to a fair
[8:55] Speaker 1: trial by an impartial jury. Okay, that is a constitutional right.
[8:59] Speaker 1: Now a lot of people sent me DMNs saying, how
[9:01] Speaker 1: does this happen? This is how this happens. When you
[9:05] Speaker 1: have a jury trial, you have a constitutional right to
[9:09] Speaker 1: have a fair trial by an impartial jury that is
[9:13] Speaker 1: not persuaded by outside influences. Now, this clerk of court
[9:19] Speaker 1: was so embedded with this jury. She was talking to them,
[9:24] Speaker 1: she was having meetings with them. There's allegations that she
[9:28] Speaker 1: was in the bathroom with one of them for a
[9:29] Speaker 1: long period of time. She drove a jury member home.
[9:33] Speaker 1: She was telling them to pay close attention to his
[9:36] Speaker 1: body language, to not believe the defense to I mean
[9:41] Speaker 1: she she was writing about it.
[9:42] Speaker 3: I didn't have to do that, and they would have
[9:44] Speaker 3: found him guilty. Of course they would have. I mean
[9:46] Speaker 3: that she ruined the evidence is empired. Yeah, So that
[9:51] Speaker 3: is what happened. It was not an impartial jury, and
[9:55] Speaker 3: it was outside influences. Because of that, Murdoch was denied
[10:00] Speaker 3: his right to a fair trial by an impartial jury.
[10:02] Speaker 3: Allegations against Hill had been swirling for a while. She
[10:06] Speaker 3: was accused of pressuring jurors to reach a guilty verdict,
[10:09] Speaker 3: partly to boost sales of a book she was writing
[10:12] Speaker 3: about the case. So she was writing a book about
[10:15] Speaker 3: this case and trial. And also I read that she
[10:19] Speaker 3: was giving sealed evidence.
[10:22] Speaker 1: To the media. So she was just she was there
[10:25] Speaker 1: in the courthouse doing all. She was a busy bee.
[10:27] Speaker 1: She was a busy bee. She had her nose and everything.
[10:30] Speaker 1: She was talking to the media. She was giving.
[10:32] Speaker 2: Them notice this stuff. No one thought, Hey, why are
[10:37] Speaker 2: you hanging out with the jury member in the bathroom.
[10:39] Speaker 1: Well, originally, when he first appealed, the first judge and
[10:45] Speaker 1: I guess in the trial court or in the appeals
[10:47] Speaker 1: court found that because the evidence against him was so
[10:51] Speaker 1: overwhelming that it didn't matter what she had done. But basically,
[10:55] Speaker 1: the Supreme Court overruled it and said that it's so
[10:58] Speaker 1: basically it's so blatant that she was so involved in it,
[11:01] Speaker 1: and that she was, you know, pressuring these jurors, and
[11:03] Speaker 1: they had submitted affidavits and some of them testified that
[11:07] Speaker 1: she had said watch his body language, don't be fooled
[11:11] Speaker 1: by the defense.
[11:12] Speaker 2: Well, you know, the jury wasn't all that bright either.
[11:14] Speaker 2: By letting it carry on.
[11:17] Speaker 1: What do you mean, why are they letting the court
[11:19] Speaker 1: clerk like, well, they probably don't know, they probably I.
[11:22] Speaker 2: Mean she's a I'm not blaming them.
[11:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, she's not elected.
[11:26] Speaker 2: She's a clerk.
[11:28] Speaker 1: No, I think you have to be elected. Don't you
[11:29] Speaker 1: get elected to the county. It's the county clerk.
[11:32] Speaker 2: Of court clerk for for the just the court room,
[11:39] Speaker 2: like the clerk.
[11:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, she's the county clerk. So I think it was
[11:42] Speaker 1: an elected position.
[11:43] Speaker 2: Count Colton, remember.
[11:47] Speaker 1: Colton County Clerk of Court. Murdoch has now filed a
[11:52] Speaker 1: federal lawsuit against her, seeking six hundred thousand dollars in
[11:56] Speaker 1: compensatory damages plus punitive damages and attorney fees. He basically
[12:00] Speaker 1: claims that he's had to spend about six hundred thousand
[12:02] Speaker 1: dollars in attorney fees to fight this. You know.
[12:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, but then he's going to do it again, and
[12:07] Speaker 2: then he's going to get found guilty and then it's
[12:09] Speaker 2: gonna be.
[12:09] Speaker 1: Like, Okay, look, they're going to retry him. They're going
[12:12] Speaker 1: to retry him.
[12:12] Speaker 2: I know, and he's gonna have a field trip every
[12:14] Speaker 2: day he gets to go to court.
[12:15] Speaker 1: And what's going to happen is they're going to find
[12:17] Speaker 1: him guilty again. There's no doubt in my mind. Do
[12:20] Speaker 1: you remember the evidence to get him against him in
[12:23] Speaker 1: the murders. Was he said that he was like having
[12:25] Speaker 1: dinner or something at his mom's house.
[12:26] Speaker 2: Everybody his audio was on the snap or yeah, but his.
[12:30] Speaker 1: Son was doing the snap what's it called snap.
[12:34] Speaker 2: Whatever it was. His kid was recording and putting on
[12:36] Speaker 2: social media, right.
[12:37] Speaker 1: And you could hear him or I think he might've
[12:38] Speaker 1: even got a glimpse of him in the background at
[12:40] Speaker 1: the time frame. I think it was like nine or
[12:41] Speaker 1: something at night, And it places him there.
[12:44] Speaker 2: At Mozelle so close to the time of the murderers,
[12:47] Speaker 2: right right, and not where he claimed he was, right exactly.
[12:51] Speaker 1: So Buster, the oldest son, who is now thirty, he's
[12:54] Speaker 1: the one that went to law school, but he didn't
[12:56] Speaker 1: graduate from law school.
[12:57] Speaker 2: Okay.
[12:58] Speaker 1: He had always supported his dad, if you remember that.
[13:00] Speaker 1: But he was always a very staunch supporter of his
[13:02] Speaker 1: dad that he was innocent. He has had a shifting
[13:05] Speaker 1: response towards his father's overturned convictions. Sources it's not him
[13:10] Speaker 1: speaking out directly, but obviously there's always like people in
[13:13] Speaker 1: the know that give interviews and talk right. Sources have
[13:17] Speaker 1: described him as furious rather than relieved, calling the ruling
[13:22] Speaker 1: a nightmare because it forces him to relive the worst
[13:25] Speaker 1: ears of his life. You know that's true, because they're
[13:28] Speaker 1: the prosecution. They're going to prosecute him again. They're going
[13:30] Speaker 1: to have all the same evidence they're going to present,
[13:33] Speaker 1: you know, the snaps and that he was on the
[13:35] Speaker 1: location and that he was there and the gun and
[13:38] Speaker 1: all of it again. Reports indicate that Buster and his
[13:41] Speaker 1: father have spoken only a handful of times since the
[13:45] Speaker 1: original guilty verdict, and Buster reportedly called his father a selfish,
[13:49] Speaker 1: selfish old man for pursuing a retrial that drags the
[13:54] Speaker 1: family back through all of this trauma. However, Buster has
[13:58] Speaker 1: always believed his father was innocent prior to this. He
[14:01] Speaker 1: said during Alex's twenty twenty three trial that he believes
[14:05] Speaker 1: the real killer is still out there if you or
[14:07] Speaker 1: he says, that keeps him up at night. Obviously that shifted.
[14:10] Speaker 1: I don't know what shifted it, but he did think
[14:13] Speaker 1: his dad was innocent. It seems like now it's shifted
[14:15] Speaker 1: and he's convinced his dad is guilty.
[14:17] Speaker 2: Maybe he was caught up in the beginning and just emotions.
[14:20] Speaker 2: You don't want to believe it, right, and you're talking
[14:22] Speaker 2: to your dad and his dad was probably pretty good
[14:24] Speaker 2: with words.
[14:26] Speaker 1: You know, and then you remove yourself from it.
[14:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, and then time goes by and you maybe start
[14:30] Speaker 2: to cool off, and you start to look at things,
[14:32] Speaker 2: and you start to.
[14:33] Speaker 1: Use your own judgment, your own discernment. You don't have
[14:35] Speaker 1: someone in your ear.
[14:36] Speaker 2: All the time caught up in the court case. Yeah,
[14:38] Speaker 2: worried about your dad and your mom and brother, you know,
[14:41] Speaker 2: because it was mom and brother, right, we're dead and
[14:44] Speaker 2: so yeah.
[14:45] Speaker 1: Well this is interesting. But Buster recently named his own
[14:49] Speaker 1: newborn son after his father as well, which Alex Murdock's
[14:53] Speaker 1: defense team has pointed out to be evidence of their
[14:56] Speaker 1: continued bond despite the public estrangement. So I don't know
[15:01] Speaker 1: what that's all about. I don't know if I would
[15:03] Speaker 1: name my son after my father, who was a convicted
[15:07] Speaker 1: killer who killed my mother and brother, if I believed
[15:10] Speaker 1: him to be guilty. But I don't know. Maybe it's
[15:14] Speaker 1: just shifting quickly.
[15:16] Speaker 2: Who knows do they have money anymore? Because I'm thinking
[15:20] Speaker 2: of like the defense team, if he spends six hundred
[15:22] Speaker 2: grand on the first one, you know, I don't know.
[15:24] Speaker 1: And that's a question I was thinking about too, because
[15:25] Speaker 1: he's been convicted of all these financial crimes. So basically
[15:29] Speaker 1: the money he would be using to pay for his
[15:31] Speaker 1: defense is money that he's extorted or fraudulent.
[15:35] Speaker 2: Or My thinking has always been, like P Diddy, he
[15:38] Speaker 2: has enough money so he could fight an appeal and
[15:42] Speaker 2: this and that and get field trips to the courthouse
[15:45] Speaker 2: and kind of occupy himself and financially it's not a
[15:48] Speaker 2: big deal. But if you can't like what so like
[15:52] Speaker 2: P Diddy for example, if he knows like his a
[15:55] Speaker 2: Journey's like, dude, it's a long shot. You can't spend
[15:57] Speaker 2: like half a million bucks, You're probably not getting anything.
[15:59] Speaker 2: He's gonna do it anyw was he got to lose, right,
[16:02] Speaker 2: But someone like Murdog is like, well do you have
[16:04] Speaker 2: the money? Because if you don't, then like can you
[16:08] Speaker 2: fight it? You can't afford to fight it.
[16:10] Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if there's still family money.
[16:13] Speaker 1: I don't know if the sale of his property generated money,
[16:17] Speaker 1: because he obviously is, you're.
[16:18] Speaker 2: Right, then there's the financial crimes. Yeah, and there's probably
[16:22] Speaker 2: some restitution and things like that that he did.
[16:25] Speaker 1: Remember all the fraudulent insurance money he got. Remember when
[16:27] Speaker 1: he represented the sons of Yeah, the mother died on
[16:34] Speaker 1: their property because allegedly or suppose whatever, she had tripped
[16:40] Speaker 1: on a dog or something. And then he represented them,
[16:43] Speaker 1: which is a complete conflict of interest for them to
[16:46] Speaker 1: sue him. And then remember they sued him for like
[16:50] Speaker 1: wrongful death or something, and then the insurance paid out,
[16:54] Speaker 1: but they paid to.
[16:57] Speaker 2: This guy's no good. Plus there was like a boat accident,
[17:00] Speaker 2: there's all kinds of That was the sign around these people.
[17:03] Speaker 2: You got to stay away from there. See on their properties,
[17:06] Speaker 2: you're probably gonna come across some booby traps.
[17:08] Speaker 1: No, I just want to go. I just want to
[17:09] Speaker 1: go on a field trip. But I don't want to
[17:10] Speaker 1: be friends with them. There's a difference. I want to
[17:13] Speaker 1: go on a property has all kinds of traps all over.
[17:15] Speaker 1: I don't know, but I want to go to Mozille.
[17:18] Speaker 1: That's on my list, all right. So Alex Murdock is
[17:22] Speaker 1: still in prison serving his forty year financial crime sence,
[17:25] Speaker 1: so he isn't going anywhere in the short term. I mean,
[17:27] Speaker 1: he's never getting out of prison. So why he's fighting this,
[17:30] Speaker 1: But I don't know. The prosecutor's office has said it
[17:33] Speaker 1: will aggressively pursue a retrial and hopes to get the
[17:36] Speaker 1: new trial completed by the end of twenty twenty six.
[17:39] Speaker 1: South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson has said all options
[17:43] Speaker 1: remain on the table this time around, including the death penalty,
[17:46] Speaker 1: something prosecutors did not seek the first time. Well, see,
[17:50] Speaker 1: that's a problem too when you start when now you're
[17:52] Speaker 1: opening up a can of worms, because then they're going
[17:54] Speaker 1: to be pissed that they have to retry it, and
[17:56] Speaker 1: they're like, you know what, not only are we going
[17:58] Speaker 1: to retry you, but we're going to try you and
[18:01] Speaker 1: we're going to ask for the death penalty this time.
[18:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be awesome. If it's worse, I told
[18:10] Speaker 2: you accepted it and gone to your jail and kept
[18:16] Speaker 2: your mouth shut. Yeah, now you've made it worse.
[18:20] Speaker 1: The retrial will hinge on the same circumstantial evidence that
[18:23] Speaker 1: drove the first conviction, which was the cell phone data,
[18:25] Speaker 1: the snapchat video filmed by Paul minutes before the killings
[18:29] Speaker 1: that captured Murdoch's voice at the scene after remember, after
[18:33] Speaker 1: he had told investigators that he was not there, and
[18:36] Speaker 1: Murdoch's documented financial desperation and the days leading up to
[18:40] Speaker 1: the murders. So that is where we're at with Murdoch.
[18:44] Speaker 1: That is why he his conviction was overturned. It's because
[18:48] Speaker 1: the Supreme.
[18:49] Speaker 2: Court county clerk Lady well.
[18:53] Speaker 1: Right, because she was she was a busy bee and
[18:55] Speaker 1: she ruined it. She was too involved, she was talking
[18:58] Speaker 1: to jurors, she was influencing. You know what, though, I
[19:01] Speaker 1: agree with the decision of the Supreme Court because even
[19:05] Speaker 1: though I'm one hundred percent convinced he's guilty, he's going
[19:07] Speaker 1: to be found guilty. Again, that is a constitutional right
[19:10] Speaker 1: that everyone is afforded. And the fact that that woman
[19:13] Speaker 1: was influencing jury members, that she was writing a book,
[19:16] Speaker 1: that she was giving evidence and things to the media,
[19:19] Speaker 1: that she was doing all these things that were that
[19:22] Speaker 1: could unduly influence the jury. He absolutely should have gotten
[19:27] Speaker 1: a new trial.
[19:27] Speaker 2: And it stops others from doing it. That's an example,
[19:32] Speaker 2: I mean.
[19:32] Speaker 1: Because let's look at it from a different perspective. Let's
[19:35] Speaker 1: look at it as if someone was innocent who was convicted,
[19:40] Speaker 1: and the reason they were convicted is because this county
[19:43] Speaker 1: clerk is out there influencing the jury. That's why that's
[19:47] Speaker 1: put into place, because you can't that can't happen. You
[19:52] Speaker 1: can't influence the jury. But anyway, so I think that
[19:56] Speaker 1: the conviction being overturned was a correct decision by the
[19:58] Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I think that was right. I think he'll
[20:00] Speaker 1: be tried again. I think he'll be found guilty. He'll
[20:02] Speaker 1: never get out of prison. That's where we're at. But
[20:05] Speaker 1: everyone deserves the constitutional.
[20:06] Speaker 2: Rights that are for just at the standard. We can't
[20:09] Speaker 2: deviate from it and start to make exceptions or such
[20:12] Speaker 2: a turn a blind eye exactly, so it had to
[20:15] Speaker 2: be done.
[20:15] Speaker 1: Exactly, all right. Thank you guys for listening till death
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